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Guatemala Judge Orders McAfee Released

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the james-bond-moviemakers-frantically-taking-notes dept.

The Courts 139

An anonymous reader points out an AP report which says a judge in Guatemala has ordered the release of John McAfee from a detention center. "Lawyer Telesforo Guerra said the judge notified him verbally of the ruling, but added that it may take a day for formal written notification to win McAfee's release, possibly as soon as Wednesday." McAfee, on the run from Belizean police, was arrested in Guatemala several days ago after making himself known to authorities. He did so because a pair of reporters who were interviewing him posted a photo which included metadata on the photo's location. In a live broadcast on Sunday, McAfee expressed a desire to return to the U.S. "I simply would like to live comfortably day by day, fish, swim, enjoy my declining years. My long-term plan was simply to get away from Belize, think, and decide what to do."

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Behold... the Power of the Internet (3, Interesting)

Press2ToContinue (2424598) | about 2 years ago | (#42256735)

A live, simple plea over worldwide streaming video without conventional media spin, circus or filter, and 48 hours later, he's released. That Guatemalan Judge don't want none of that.

*snap*

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (4, Informative)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | about 2 years ago | (#42256755)

I think Belize and Guatemala have some ongoing disputes as well which may have had something to do with it. Doubt he'll be able to bring the girlfriend with him though.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42256797)

I'm pretty sure multi-millionaires don't worry about losing girlfriends

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (2)

AvitarX (172628) | about 2 years ago | (#42256927)

Like that fact that officially Belize doesn't exist according to Guatemala. In exchange for not pressing the issue, they get promised access to the east coast though.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (3, Informative)

garyebickford (222422) | about 2 years ago | (#42257285)

I vaguely recall that Guatemala considers Belize to be a province of Guatemala, stolen by the British. They have made threatening remarks about walking in and taking it back. I could be off base though.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (2)

hairyfeet (841228) | about 2 years ago | (#42257879)

Bingo! They have been disputing the borders for ages, and frankly there is a LOT of animosity from what I've been reading since this whole thing blew up so it was a smart move by McAfee to run there. It would be like being wanted in India and running to Pakistan, it really wouldn't matter what you were accused of as it would be more about Pakistan being able to flip the bird at India than the person, smart move.

That said after reading some of his rambles about how "Bath salts" made him a tiger in the sack? My guess is he wasted the dude. I have a couple of customers who are cops and when this thing about bath salts first came up in the media I asked them about and man, you should hear the horror stories. These aren't the kind of guys to do the whole "ZOMFG drugs will make your dick rot!" kinda of hype bullshit either, in fact they both think pot should be legal and one doesn't see any problem in adults doing what he calls "hippie drugs" like acid and mushrooms as long as they aren't gonna be driving or taking care of kids on the stuff, but...man, they say that shit is one of those drugs where if you have a bad trip its REALLY fucking bad, we are talking caged animal full blown paranoid. They both said the guys they've seen on that shit make meth paranoia look like coffee jitters, and you have to approach somebody whacked on that shit like you would a wild animal, slow movements and calm tones because they can get dangerous REALLY fucking fast. The worst part is they said it seems to do some really long term mental damage to a percentage that does the shit even once as they had a couple of calls where somebody did that shit just looking for a cheap buzz and ended up in the mental ward, REALLY bad shit.

So you got a guy that ALREADY thinks people are against him, has a huge gun collection, had previous disputes with the victim and to top it all off is waxing in his blog about how wonderful a drug is that has a known side effect of extremely bad paranoia where the person on it often becomes dangerous to themselves or others when having a bad trip...yeah I can't see why Belize would be wanting to talk to this guy.

I have a feeling this is gonna be another one of those cases where because they got money they get to walk away from shit that should land anybody in PMITA prison. It just goes to show you if you have enough money you can get away with anything. I have to say though I was impressed how he used a double to throw cops off the trail, that was a pretty damned slick move. Personally I'm shocked that they just let the double walk when he was helping a murder suspect run from the cops, but I guess they didn't want a court case making them look like idiots for falling for a double.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42258257)

Is it even thinkable that politics have nothing to do with this at all?
Maybe the judge made a call based on sound logic? I don't know the case, and I doubt any of us can really claim to know whether or not McAfee is guity...

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42256873)

He more likely just paid off the local government. You'd be surprised at how many places in central America that you can do that.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (4, Insightful)

UltraZelda64 (2309504) | about 2 years ago | (#42257137)

Hey, if you're made of money, you can do the same thing here in the U.S. too... so what's the difference? Other than the fact that a small, central-American government will be willing to do it for less bribe money?

That said, I'm not jumping to conclusions like everyone else and automatically assuming that this is what happened; I'm just making a point.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257595)

If I had an account and mod points, you'd get them.

Well played, sir.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (0)

amiga3D (567632) | about 2 years ago | (#42257887)

Plenty of millionaires go to jail in the US it's just that thanks to better legal support they are far less likely to. The level of proof to put the rich in jail is far higher than for people who are poor.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (1)

UltraZelda64 (2309504) | about 2 years ago | (#42258601)

Better legal system? You mean the one in which people can just pay better (ie. more expensive) lawyers if they have the money, effectively buying their way of having to go to jail in the first place in many cases?

No doubt the legal system is better here than what they have in shitholes like the one that John McAfee fled from, but it still favors the rich. And don't even get me started on some of the ridiculous laws that make criminals out of people who get caught for some of the most harmless (to other people) offenses, which were only made illegal in the first place through racism, yellow journalism, scare tactics, and generally because they are things that are looked down upon by religious people (if you thought I was talking about the war on some drugs, good guess).

Here in the U.S., punishment to a person by the wrath of the government can be far more damaging than the "crime" they committed. Luckily if you happen to have the money to waste or know someone else who does and is willing to do it for you, you can bail your ass out in many cases and save yourself the wasted time and emotional stress--but not everyone has that luxury.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (1)

ipquickly (1562169) | about 2 years ago | (#42258801)

With a lot of money you will generally:
live healthier
have better lawyers
have better food
have better doctors
have a better education
be able to get away with things that those poorer than you cannot ...
This is the way it is.
This is the way it always was.

As long as there's money in the equation, that's the way it will be.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (3, Interesting)

westlake (615356) | about 2 years ago | (#42256889)

A live, simple plea over worldwide streaming video without conventional media spin, circus or filter, and 48 hours later, he's released.

Belize has had a "mutual assistance in law enforcement" treaty with the US for twelve years. That means that McAfee can be sent back to Belize if his testimony is needed in a on-going criminal investigation.

It would be very interesting to know whether the common law rule that "evidence of flight is evidence of guilt" still holds in Belize.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42256997)

He can also be questioned or tried in the US since the man that was murdered was a US citizen. And if the US doesn't want to deal with him, there is an extradition treaty with Belize. He might also want to stay away from the US in case someone gets interested in the 17 year old girlfriend story.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257191)

If he's smart, he'll be on a sailboat to Argentina with a shaved head and a briefcase full of $100s.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (3, Insightful)

amiga3D (567632) | about 2 years ago | (#42257895)

If he was smart he wouldn't be in this predicament.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (1)

iTwist (999022) | about 2 years ago | (#42258007)

The sad part is that he is smart, or else he wouldn't be discussed on here. Well maybe he was smart, not sure what bath salts do to your brain.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (3, Funny)

TapeCutter (624760) | about 2 years ago | (#42258069)

Technically brilliant and socially incompetent. I'm surprised he doesn't have a slashdot account. ;)

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (1)

azalin (67640) | about 2 years ago | (#42258099)

Why are you so sure about that? As far as I know he could even have an army of sock puppets around here.

Re:Behold... the Power of the Internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42258547)

Of course he does. So many people having opinions differing from yours: everyone on Slashdot MUST certainly be McAfee sockpuppets! *facepalm*

Awww....! (2)

billstewart (78916) | about 2 years ago | (#42256911)

He wants to live out his declining years in peace? Awww! Y'know, I bet Gregory Faull probably wanted to do the same thing eventually!

And yes, McAfee does deserve a fair trial, and may or may not be able to get one in Belize, considering how much he's upset the local authorities.

Interesting... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42256825)

I guess his check cleared.

Re:Interesting... (1)

ArsonSmith (13997) | about 2 years ago | (#42256933)

It's been written, it may take a day or so to clear.

Re:Interesting... (1)

Tastecicles (1153671) | about 2 years ago | (#42257301)

nope, his bank takes 30 days.

But the real question is (4, Funny)

Andy Prough (2730467) | about 2 years ago | (#42256839)

Has he made any progress in finding the "real killer"? I'm sure that's much more important to him than his own freedom.

Re:But the real question is (2)

stevez67 (2374822) | about 2 years ago | (#42256855)

haha all he needs is a mirror!

Re:But the real question is (2, Insightful)

akboss (823334) | about 2 years ago | (#42256977)

Did OJ ever find the real killer(s)???

Re:But the real question is (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42256999)

What does he care? It was his ex-wife anyway. The reason he cared in the first place was his arrest/trial.

Re:But the real question is (3, Insightful)

YrWrstNtmr (564987) | about 2 years ago | (#42257291)

What does he care? It was his ex-wife anyway. The reason he cared in the first place was his arrest/trial.

If a man is living on your house, screwing your wife, driving your Ferrari....not saying it's right, but I understand.

Re:But the real question is (4, Informative)

rockout (1039072) | about 2 years ago | (#42257387)

He's paying $25,000 a month in alimony, got another man driving around in his car and fucking his wife in a house he's still paying the mortgage on. Now I'm not saying he shoulda killed her... but I understand.

Good lord, if you're gonna rip off Chris Rock at least get the quote right.

Re:But the real question is (3, Interesting)

GPierce (123599) | about 2 years ago | (#42257335)

Actually, a detective who had been investigating the OJ case for 30 or so years came to the conclusion that the probable killer was OJ's oldest son Jason - his son from his first marriage. I think the tile of the book was something like "OJ was innocent and I can prove it".

Allegedly, Jason had been treated for mental illness involving violence at least twice. At the time of the murders he was on probation for attacking his former boss with a knife, out of the set of chef's knives he always carried with him. He was also a friend of Nichole and spent a fair amount of time in her company - On the evening of the murders, she was supposed to be a guest at the restaurant where he was a chef.

The book documented all of his theories in detail (about 600 pages worth) and appeared pretty convincing.

The interesting part is that no one tried to rebut the contents of the book. The people you would expect to care simply ignored the book completely.

It's kind of like the original trial where the defense claimed that the LAPD was bigoted and framed people for crimes they were not guilty of. Then we had the Rampart scandal where a member of the LAPD testified that they were bigoted and framed people and planted evidence to convict the not guilty.

And most of America decided screw the evidence, he's guilty.

Re:But the real question is (4, Informative)

rockout (1039072) | about 2 years ago | (#42257407)

No one paid attention because it's a ludicrous theory. And the motivation behind such a theory? oh, that simplest and oldest of reasons:

"However, this theory is only advocated by one person and is described by "celebrity criminal defence lawyer" Jeffrey Steinberger as "absolutely absurd, ... a desperate attempt to sell a book".

Also, he'd been "investigating" the case for 6 years, not 30. 30 would've been noteworthy indeed, considering the murders happened in 1994.

Re:But the real question is (1)

Andy Prough (2730467) | about 2 years ago | (#42257585)

Most Americans don't understand that the LAPD had had a well-documented, decades-long history of hiring racist police and police brutality against minorities up through the 1960's, culminating in the Watts Riots of 1965, and the Rodney King beating riots of 1992. Some of that racial tension was still playing out in the courtroom at the time of the OJ trial.

Re:But the real question is (1)

pclminion (145572) | about 2 years ago | (#42257657)

Actually, a detective who had been investigating the OJ case for 30 or so years [...]

The murders occurred in 1994. You're a whole decade off.

Re:But the real question is (2)

Grayhand (2610049) | about 2 years ago | (#42258377)

Did OJ ever find the real killer(s)???

He searched every golf course and strip club in Florida but OJ never found his ex-wife's killer!

Re:But the real question is (3, Funny)

circletimessquare (444983) | about 2 years ago | (#42257009)

Hans Reiser did it

Re:But the real question is (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257039)

Didn't OJ say the same thing?

He wants to return to the US?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42256881)

Why would he return to the US? If Belize thinks he killed the other man, they just have to pass the information on to the FBI. Murdering a US citizen in a foreign country is a federal crime.

Did you ever stop to wonder... (1)

Press2ToContinue (2424598) | about 2 years ago | (#42257029)

if he really committed any crime? Or do you just believe whatever you read?

Re:Did you ever stop to wonder... (0)

BitZtream (692029) | about 2 years ago | (#42257045)

Most of us realize from his behavior (past and present) that he makes an obvious suspect who does more to convict himself than screaming 'I'm GUILTY!'

Most people believe lots of nonsensical things (5, Interesting)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#42257145)

Most of us realize from his behavior (past and present) that he makes an obvious suspect

Anyone who has travelled in third world countries is way more prone to believe his story than not, no matter how crazy he might be otherwise. Believing that the police force is on the take and after him for not paying up is one of the most lucid and rational things he has said for some time.

Re:Most people believe lots of nonsensical things (0)

tsotha (720379) | about 2 years ago | (#42257267)

The problem is he's said so much that isn't lucid or rational it's pretty easy to believe McAfee shot Gregory Faull because he thought Faull was an alien intent on stealing his sexual power.

Re:Most people believe lots of nonsensical things (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#42257337)

Reading his past stuff he does not at all come off as dangerous in any way though. It's a whole different vector from anything he said to killing anyone.

Re:Most people believe lots of nonsensical things (1)

tsotha (720379) | about 2 years ago | (#42257417)

It's hard to know from what he writes, since he may be smart enough to publish when he's reasonably straight.

Re:Did you ever stop to wonder... (1)

Tagged_84 (1144281) | about 2 years ago | (#42257213)

I wasn't aware BitZtream was elected the representative for most of us...

The EVIDENCE (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257385)

Well, lets recap on the evidence.
He was arrested for not having a permit. He says the policeman took his permits. He had copies, the US embassy managed to get him released. From this we know he is being targeted. On return he says one of his weapons was not returned. This is well before the shooting, he also says they took his passport, they deny that.

http://news.techeye.net/security/john-mcafee-arrested-in-belize

They must have had record of his gun permit, so why would they raid his house and confiscate guns on a weapons permit charge, if that was the case? Big problem right there, you have independent confirmation of a corruption problem.

McAfee kicks up a stink, claims its because he refused to pay a bribe to a corrupt politicians. His neighbor gets killed, also American, he says he was mistaken for McAfee. McAfee goes on the run.

So his position is consistent with a drugged up paranoid loon, but also with someone being attacked by a corrupt local politician. The one piece of independent information (the bogus raid and bogus arrest) suggests he's a victim here.

What I'd like to see at this point is the security camera footage from his neighbors house. He's from Florida living in a poor country, so there will be CCTV everywhere, and that will be a proper security system. The *absence* of that, would confirm the initial bogus-gun-permit charge to me.

Please see the definition of "Evidence"... (0)

Press2ToContinue (2424598) | about 2 years ago | (#42257751)

Then, compare and contrast that with the definition of "Hearsay"

You may withdraw from the bench. And I don't want any more grandstanding out of you, or you'll be held in contempt.

His arrest is a matter of record (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42258045)

No his arrest, the police raid, and subsequent release is a matter of record. The involvement of the US embassy is known and recorded and to the definition of evidence used by any court.

It's natural to immediately wonder why they would arrest him for not having a weapons permit, if he HAD a weapons permit and they must have known that. It's then natural to wonder about the CCTV recordings from his dead neighbors house.

There's also a timeflow here, his bogus arrest CAME FIRST, the confiscation of weapons, the return and McAfee's claim that one of his weapons was not returned, happened in the past, before this incident. You paint him as a cook for running for fear of his life, but his neighbor IS DEAD, he was ARRESTED in a bogus raid, so the evidence is in his favor right now.

It's natural to be in denial... (0)

Press2ToContinue (2424598) | about 2 years ago | (#42258199)

about your lack of first-hand knowledge. Lack of first-hand knowledge makes you unable to judge people, and you like judging people. So, read it all, and believe it all.

We DID land on the moon (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42258657)

Evidence can exist whether or not you personally witnessed it first hand. Hence we DID go to the moon, even if you personally don't have your own moon rock, or memories of the journey, or spacesuit in the closet.

You didn't dispute any part of the EVIDENCE. Feel free to do so.

Your Mom.... (0)

Press2ToContinue (2424598) | about 2 years ago | (#42257785)

May I be the first to ask you if you would like me be the judge at your mom's arraignment?

Press2ToContinue looks at BitZtream's mom... "She looks guilty to me" (Looks at court clerk.) "What do you think?"
"She looks guilty to me too, Judge." (Looks back at Press2ToContinue.)
"Ok, I've seen enough. 20 years. Take her away." (gavel falls)

"Next!"

Re:Did you ever stop to wonder... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257333)

I would presume that's implicit in "If Belize thinks he killed the other man," which covers the whole concept of an investigation and trial.

Re:Did you ever stop to wonder... (1)

pclminion (145572) | about 2 years ago | (#42257663)

No, I don't believe everything I read, but the story is that his neighbor was complaining about his dogs, then his dogs were shot dead by somebody and no more than a day later the guy who complained about the dogs turned up dead. If that is what happened, don't you think it's deserving of some investigation at least?

Re:Did you ever stop to wonder... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42258169)

...then his dogs were shot dead by somebody and no more than a day later the guy who complained about the dogs turned up dead.

"Somebody" didn't shoot the dogs, McAfee did. McAfee believe someone had poisoned the dogs and so HE shot them with HIS gun. A day or so later his neighbor, who he was having a dispute with over the dogs, was found dead of a single gunshot. When the police dug up the dogs a few days later and cut off/took away the heads, they were recovering the (partial) remains to recover the the bullet McAfee used.... To compare against the bullet in the neighbor.... you know, actual detective work.

And that's how you know it's a set-up (2, Interesting)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#42257061)

If Belize thinks he killed the other man, they just have to pass the information on to the FBI

Correct. Which means his returning to the U.S. means Belize has nothing on him; they really did just want to kill him.

Remember kids, just because someone is paranoid does not mean that sometimes people are not in fact after them.

Re:And that's how you know it's a set-up (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257241)

So because Guatemala has decided to return him to the US, therefore Belize has nothing on him.

Your logic seems air tight there.

Idiot.

Read Again (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#42257283)

So because Guatemala has decided to return him to the US

Read again. He can go wherever he likes. Because HE plans to return to the U.S. he must feel he has nothing to fear with Belize presenting evidence of the murder of a U.S. Citizen...

Otherwise why would he WANT to return to the U.S. if he knew he would be charged with murder?

To quote you about ten minutes ago: "Idiot".

Re:Read Again (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257355)

The question isn't' "wy would he WANT to return to the US". The question is "why would he *say* he wants to return". Remember, MacAfee software is is famous for screwing with your systems behind your back, even when it *claims* it's been turned off. Only ripping it out by the roots atually prevents it from screwing with your system's kernel.

Think I'm kidding? Try running the sshd from CygWin with MacAfee installed, even if it's disabled.

Re:Read Again (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257719)

so what does his former company's shady software practices have to do with anything related to the main story?

grow a brain you fucking idiot.

Software malpractice != murder.

fuck you and everyone like you. Asshole

Re:Read Again (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257397)

That's not what you wrote. You wrote "Belize has nothing on him". If you notice, that doesn't read out as "McAfee must believe Belize has nothing on him". It reads literally as "Belize has nothing on him". While it could be interpreted as both, the way you wrote the rest makes it sound like the latter.

Stupid idiotic dumbass dipshit.

-A different AC

Re:Read Again (1)

OneAhead (1495535) | about 2 years ago | (#42257619)

Oh c'mon, I'm not exactly SuperKendall's biggest fan, but in all fairness, the meaning of what he wrote was pretty clear (and he does have a point, too). Might it be that you're being deliberately obtuse for the sake of trolling, Mr. AC?

Re:Read Again (1)

gmhowell (26755) | about 2 years ago | (#42258423)

Might it be that you're being deliberately obtuse for the sake of trolling, Mr. AC?

Seems like a stretch, but there's a first time for everything.

Re:Read Again (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | about 2 years ago | (#42257573)

Read again. He can go wherever he likes. Because HE plans to return to the U.S. he must feel he has nothing to fear with Belize presenting evidence of the murder of a U.S. Citizen.

Even if you assume all of that is true, that doesn't mean he didn't do it. Not all belief is rational. Of course, there are other problems with that argument...

Otherwise why would he WANT to return to the U.S. if he knew he would be charged with murder?

Who says he wants to return to the U.S. Oh, yeah, he does. And its not like he could be lying about his intentions.

Re:Read Again (1)

Raenex (947668) | about 2 years ago | (#42258475)

Otherwise why would he WANT to return to the U.S. if he knew he would be charged with murder?

Because he is a natural-born citizen there and that's the most logical place he could be deported to without being sent back to Belize. He didn't originally say he wanted to return to the US, despite lots of people suggesting that to him on his blog -- that was after he was arrested in Guatemala. It was the least bad option in a hot situation.

Whether he is guilty or not he could still be charged with murder based on evidence real or fabricated, assuming Belize is corrupt and willing to frame him.

Eheh, sure (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | about 2 years ago | (#42258355)

If he wanted to go to the US, why didn't he go there immediately?

Now he wants to go back (2)

illestov (945762) | about 2 years ago | (#42256931)

I guess dealing with third world country's jail system has changed his mind quite quickly

"I have been back to America many times since I have been in Belize. I have no interest of going this month or next but ... I can come and go freely to America any time I want."

cnn article from Dec 8th [cnn.com]

There systems slow down so much that they had to (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 2 years ago | (#42256989)

There systems slow down so much that they had to let him go but even then it still needs formal written notification to get rid of that POS.

McAfee should be a virus killing word (3, Insightful)

cstec (521534) | about 2 years ago | (#42257017)

The really sad thing for us geezers is that we remember John's early posts on this whole 'virus' thing, back in the BBS days, when it was just him and no one knew what he was talking about at first. It would be difficult to overestimate how much good he has done the world.

Re:McAfee should be a virus killing word (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257051)

No it wouldn't

Re:McAfee should be a virus killing word (0)

BitZtream (692029) | about 2 years ago | (#42257055)

No it wouldn't. Most CS graduates can do more than he ever did. He simply isn't impressive, just there early.

Re:McAfee should be a virus killing word (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257177)

No it wouldn't. Most CS graduates can do more than he ever did. He simply isn't impressive, just there early.

You sound like a recent CS graduate. How would you solve the problem in a managed code implementation... say something like, I dunno: Java?

Re:McAfee should be a virus killing word (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257253)

No it wouldn't. Most CS graduates can do more than he ever did. He simply isn't impressive, just there early.

You sound like a recent CS graduate. How would you solve the problem in a managed code implementation... say something like, I dunno: Java?

Java? On CP/M? Switching floppies to finish a compilation? Using "overlays" in Turbo Pascal to fit the generated binary in 48kB?

Re:McAfee should be a virus killing word (2)

rockout (1039072) | about 2 years ago | (#42257425)

He simply isn't impressive, just there early.

That, in and of itself, is impressive. Certainly there were plenty of other CS graduates around before and during the time McAfee was developing his software. None of them did shit.

Re:McAfee should be a virus killing word (4, Funny)

Pseudonym Authority (1591027) | about 2 years ago | (#42257551)

I know more math than Archimedes ever did. That fucking hack probably couldn't even solve a differential equation! He didn't know shit. Modern mathematicians can do a million times what he could, he was got in on the game first.

Re:McAfee should be a virus killing word (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42258165)

Archimedes died of AIDS. And he deserved it.

Re:McAfee should be a virus killing word (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about 2 years ago | (#42258133)

The same can be said for a lot of other innovators. But as they say: innovation is about execution, not about ideas. Ideas are cheap; the real trick is to recognize a good one and then follow through on it. Most of us have good ideas from time to time, but many are poor at assessing them, and even worse at putting our money where our hunch is and building a solid business.

And in this case I'd say the idea was less obvious than is the case for many other inventions, and more about insight (or foresight) than simple fortuitous timing.

Re:McAfee should be a virus killing word (3, Interesting)

Arker (91948) | about 2 years ago | (#42258597)

This old geezer remembers it a bit differently. He had a technically inferior product (a signature scanner of all things! not a good design) but it succeeded in large part due to buddies at MS breaking alternative approaches relentlessly, partly due to effective marketing, and perhaps partly due to questionable hiring practices as I recall. Nothing he did was innovative or praiseworthy from a technical standpoint, though perhaps from a marketing and business standpoint things are different.

metadata (1)

v1 (525388) | about 2 years ago | (#42257089)

pair of reporters who were interviewing him posted a photo which included metadata on the photo's location.

oopsie! someone really wasn't thinking... also makes you wonder why they would post the raws, or why their photoshopping tools maintain that. I really wouldn't expect photoshop to preserve gps metadata.

It was an iPhone photo (2)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#42257269)

also makes you wonder why they would post the raws

It's not really raw, it was a JPG - straight from an iPhone. If you give the photo app permission (it asks the first time you launch) it will record location in every photo thereafter, unless you specifically disable location in settings (you can turn it on or off).

But... (0)

bmo (77928) | about 2 years ago | (#42257217)

My long-term plan was simply to get away from Belize, think, and decide what to do."

When you've turned into a real-life Bob Arctor with your own home-brewed "Substance D," is there any thinking left that you're capable of? After reading his blog posts, I have to say that his options for thinking logically are limited.

But coming back to the US, his options for making his "Substance D" are going to be much more limited, so there's that.

--
BMO

Re:But... (1)

bmo (77928) | about 2 years ago | (#42257227)

Gah, I shoulda used the preview.

--
BMO

Re:But... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257733)

also you should have ensured that you aren't a fucking moron.

guess a low slashdot ID doesn't mean much, if anything...apart from 1st on the idiot bandwagon means you're a fucking retard.

Home-brewed "Substance D" (1)

dgharmon (2564621) | about 2 years ago | (#42257749)

"When you've turned into a real-life Bob Arctor with your own home-brewed "Substance D," is there any thinking left that you're capable of? .. coming back to the US, his options for making his "Substance D" are going to be much more limited"

As well as Gregory Viant Faull is a US citizen, so the US Justice department isn't as likely to go lenient as if McAfee had killed some non-US nonentity ..
--

"I saw Substance D. I saw death rising from the earth itself, in one blue field"

accidently on purpose? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257237)

For a photo journalist to innocently take pictures with the gps function on is rather suspect is it not? Obviously he was not concerned about
battery life while taking pictures. Real photographers would rtfm and know that the default is to not have gps turned on when taking a photo.

I am sure that his camera had the gps icon illuminated while he was taking the shots. "I wonder why my battery runs down so quick when that little satellite icon is on?" NOT

So to say putting gps meta data in the photo was an accident is ridiculous at best. Either that or the whole thing is just some huge publicity stunt considering that av commercial software like McAfee is going the way of a dinosaur where it belongs and is only still useful for all the businesses and a few grannies still running XP.

On the other hand his photos most likely were more valuable to the rags with the meta data in them. Especially to Black Press and the Murdock rags.

Re:accidently on purpose? (1)

tsotha (720379) | about 2 years ago | (#42257281)

For a photo journalist to innocently take pictures with the gps function on is rather suspect is it not?

Thinking back to my fellow students who ended up in J-school... not really, no.

iPhone does GPS tag (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#42257303)

For a photo journalist to innocently take pictures with the gps function on is rather suspect is it not?

Not when they are taking pictures with an iPhone (if you look up the original story of the photo having GPS metadata they stated it was from an iPhone). It asks when you first run the photo app if you'd like to enable location recording. After that it records location every time.

Real photographers would rtfm

Real photographers know how iPhones behave in addition to other cameras that have embedded GPS.

Real photographers also use iPhones sometimes instead of "real" cameras because camera phones attract very little attention compared to the real thing.

I wonder why my battery runs down so quick when that little satellite icon is on?

The GPS drain for tracking on photos is negligible in an iPhone.

Re:iPhone does GPS tag (1)

jafac (1449) | about 2 years ago | (#42258015)

At the very least, you forward the photo to someone you trust to remove the metadata before publishing anonymously: and you CAN'T do that FROM your iPhone, afaik. If someone told me I could, I wouldn't believe it anyway.

Long term / Short Term (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257245)

I simply would like to live comfortably day by day, fish, swim, enjoy my declining years. My long-term plan was simply to get away from Belize, think, and decide what to do.

My short-term plan did not work out at all, except for the getting away from Belize part (temporarily it seems).

Re:Long term / Short Term (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42258389)

That depends, maybe his plan was to get high on bath salts and then pop a cap in his neighbor?

This is almost as bad... (1)

RedHackTea (2779623) | about 2 years ago | (#42257453)

...as waiting for a virus scan to complete. And when it finally gets to 99%...when you finally think that it's all over...he's locked in jail you think...surely /. won't post anymore stories you think...but no, another story emerges, and it just sits at 99%.

Better to spend time in an American/English Prison (1)

kronnek (982486) | about 2 years ago | (#42257647)

He's got dual citizenship England and the United States. Maybe he's playing this smart. If I were him I'd rather not be stuck in a prison in a country where you technically don't have rights because you aren't a citizen.

First with the rumour ... (2)

dgharmon (2564621) | about 2 years ago | (#42257693)

"A lawyer for John McAfee said Tuesday that a judge has ordered the software company founder released from a Guatemalan detention center .. Judge Judith Secaida did not immediately return phone calls seeking to confirm the ruling."

Doesn't anyone actually verify the story anymore ?

Re:First with the rumour ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42258131)

Well the Judge might have better things to do, than answering you phone calls. Maybe he's got to judge, you know? Maybe he's judging you RIGHT NOW?

Wow, he really is confused: (1)

macraig (621737) | about 2 years ago | (#42257709)

"My long-term plan was simply to get away from Belize, think, and decide what to do."

If that is now McAfee's notion of long-term plans, I guess his short-term plans include bodily functions I hope even he wouldn't blog.

Re:Wow, he really is confused: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42257927)

"My long-term plan was simply to get away from Belize, think, and decide what to do."

If that is now McAfee's notion of long-term plans, I guess his short-term plans include bodily functions I hope even he wouldn't blog.

We are talking about a man you has pumped more chemicals through his body than exist in most chemical labs. It is actually amazing he is able to think that far ahead.

didn't ever really feel sorry for him (2, Informative)

jafac (1449) | about 2 years ago | (#42258027)

So - this guy takes off from the USA so he can dodge paying American Taxes on his fortune (John Galt style!) - then he's shocked SHOCKED! to find out that governments in third-world countries are run like gangs, and will extort money from him. Now he's crying to get back into the US eh?

Who is John Galt, and where are his back-taxes?

Re:didn't ever really feel sorry for him (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about 2 years ago | (#42258179)

OT, but Galt didn't leave the US, did he? I remember Galt objected to paying income tax (and refunded Rearden's income tax as well), but not whether he was morally opposed to income tax in itself, or merely opposed to paying it to an oppressive government. I agree with the latter reason; I'm OK with paying income tax if the government handles that money wisely and spends it frugally. Where I live, that is not the case by any stretch of the imagination though. So I dodge taxes (by legal means, mind).

Re:didn't ever really feel sorry for him (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42258219)

Rand (and thus Galt) was opposed to mandatory taxation.

You know, those things cost money (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42258705)

And you need to pay taxes for them.

But you preferred to spend your declining years pushing drugs up your arse, shagging underage girls and not paying taxes.

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