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Guatemala Deports McAfee To the US

Soulskill posted about a year ago | from the every-bond-film-has-to-end-some-time dept.

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Reuters reports that John McAfee's troubles in Central America seem to be coming to an end. After a Guatemalan judge ordered McAfee's release yesterday, the country's immigration authorities have now deported him, putting him on a plane to Miami this afternoon. McAfee told ABC News, "They took me out of my cell and put me on a freaking airplane. I had no choice in the matter." Which is not to say he's unhappy with the outcome: "It was the most gracious expulsion I've ever experienced. Compared to my past two wives that expelled me this isn't a terrible trip."

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US has extradition treaty with Belize (3, Informative)

Smallpond (221300) | about a year ago | (#42266939)

At least for people who aren't billionaires.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (2)

MightyYar (622222) | about a year ago | (#42266965)

Don't they actually need to charge him with something?

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42266979)

Don't they actually need to charge him with something?

Can the US just send him anyways?

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42266991)

They didnt need to "charge" Assange with anything... he's just wanted for questioning.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267225)

Uh, he's charged with rape.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267259)

That's incorrect and libelous.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (0)

SleazyRidr (1563649) | about a year ago | (#42267601)

Actually it is correct, he has indeed been charged with rape. If he had said that Assange had committed rape that would be incorrect and libelous, but it's not a requirement to be charged.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267639)

He has not been charged with anything. It would've taken you just a few seconds to verify before posting.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (1)

Goaway (82658) | about a year ago | (#42268051)

He has not been "charged" because Swedish law requires him to be arrested before he can be charged. There is every intention to charge him once he is in custody.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42269295)

Right. He has not been charged.

Now that we've got the rocket science out of the way, let's move on to brain surgery.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (3, Informative)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | about a year ago | (#42268779)

Citations, please.

I'll remind you that BOTH of the women involved in the Assange scandal have stated quite clearly in interviews that Assange did NOT commit a rape. The only "charges" that have been made concern "sexual misconduct" involving the failure to use a condom. No actual, formal charges have ever been filed. Some muck raker just wants the opportunity to sit Assange down for an interrogation.

Get your facts straight, please. You simply cannot comprehend the situation, unless you start getting the basic facts straight. Both women spoke to the media, both women made similar statements. So similar, in fact, one has to wonder just how long they rehearsed their statements. We know that they are in collusion, but we don't know for certain who they are in collusion with. Are they the only conspirators, playing a rather petty game, or are they members of a larger conspiracy, playing at international intrigue? OR, is their little petty conspiracy simply being taken advantage of by another larger conspiracy?

Tune in next week, same time, same station, for another installment of, "Bimbos Rape Assange"!!

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267653)

Who are you, his condom??

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42268189)

I feel so unused.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267793)

Uh, he's charged with rape.

And you're charged with being a fascist knee-jerk moron.

Your conviction is certain.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (1)

Smallpond (221300) | about a year ago | (#42266995)

You mean like being wanted for questioning in a murder?

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (2)

Capsaicin (412918) | about a year ago | (#42267281)

You mean like being wanted for questioning in a murder?

No he means actually charge him with something. The traditional common law position is that, the terms of the extradition treaty notwithstanding, a person can only be extradited if charged with a crime recognised as such in the extraditing country. The US has not, I trust, entered into any treaties whereby it is subject to the perversion of law which has seen Sweden demand the rendition of a UK resident merely for the purposes of interrogation.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about a year ago | (#42267903)

"Common law" is not that common. What we have is a shared legal history with England, but that is completely unrelated to the legal history of many other countries.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (1)

Capsaicin (412918) | about a year ago | (#42268093)

If there was any relevant point to that post at all, I missed it.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (1)

squiggleslash (241428) | about a year ago | (#42268247)

I suspect his point was that if your logic held, there wouldn't be many extradition treaties as they'd be pretty one sided if they relied upon a system of law not present in the vast majority of bound parties. So there has to be more to it than you suggest.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (2, Informative)

Capsaicin (412918) | about a year ago | (#42268471)

I suspect his point was that if your logic held

Its not my logic dude, it's the Law.

there wouldn't be many extradition treaties as they'd be pretty one sided if they relied upon a system of law not present in the vast majority of bound parties. So there has to be more to it than you suggest.

Now that is a failure of logic! The mere fact that the dual criminality (AKA 'double criminality) [uslegal.com] principle exists in common law countries, does not imply that the same principle is absent in other legal systems. You cannot infer one-sidedness. Even if you could, that would not allow you to deduce that there " has to be more." The US, in particular, is famous for engaging in one sided dealings with other countries. Eg. Try getting a defamation judgment from another (even CL) country enforced in the US.

The point is that the US in, in my judgement (bearing in mind that I'm an Australian lawyer, not a US one), unlikely in the extreme to extradite [uslegal.com] one of its citizens, not charged with a crime recognised under US law.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (1)

Arker (91948) | about a year ago | (#42269099)

No, if that was his logic he's just dense. Even though there are fundamentally distinct legal traditions with very different answers to certain questions, the vast majority of actions that are a crime in one jurisdiction will still constitute a crime in a different jurisdiction. Laws against theft and murder for instance are effectively universal, and with modern treaties even tertiary legislation such as copyright tends to be pretty darn uniform.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42268297)

Common law [wikipedia.org] is a type of legal system originating in England that allows courts to make laws through case law or court judgements (an example is Roe v. Wade abortion allowance due to the right of privacy or the fair use protection before it was actually codified by Congress). Contrast it with civil law [wikipedia.org] , which came from Rome, where only the Parliament can make a law and the law has to be strictly interpreted based on the wording and not based on precedent (though there can be a constitutional court to throw it out). Common law also allows jury trials while civil law only has juries in very limited cases.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42269179)

That'd be relevant if McAfee were extradited. He was deported to his home country, which I believe is the US.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (0)

MightyMartian (840721) | about a year ago | (#42267087)

Unless he was claiming refugee status, Guatemala was under no obligation to let him stay within their borders.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (5, Informative)

DragonWriter (970822) | about a year ago | (#42267115)

Unless he was claiming refugee status, Guatemala was under no obligation to let him stay within their borders.

He was, in fact, seeking asylum, which was denied.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (1)

MightyYar (622222) | about a year ago | (#42268607)

I meant that he would have to be charged in order to be extradited from the US.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (3, Informative)

slew (2918) | about a year ago | (#42267611)

Apparently yes [internatio...onblog.com] ..

3. A request for extradition of a person who is sought for prosecution shall also be supported by:
(a) a copy of the warrant or order of arrest, if any, issued by a judge or other competent authority of the Requesting State;
(b) a document setting forth the charges; and
(c) such evidence as would be found sufficient, according to the law of the Requested State, to justify the committal for trial of the person sought if the offense of which the person has been accused had been committed in the Requested State.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | about a year ago | (#42269315)

he requested asylum in Guatemala, that was denied, so he gets deported to his country of citizenship: the USA

what happens next is he will probably be extradited to Belize for murder, when the Belize govt present the USA with an extradition order

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267111)

I don't know about the United States but quite a number of countries have laws which forbid extraditing their own citizens.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267213)

I don't know about the United States but quite a number of countries have laws which forbid extraditing their own citizens.

The United States isn't one of them. And he'll never be extradited because if there is probable cause that McAfee was involved in the murder (which would be needed for an extradition request), he would be charged in the US for it since the victim was a US citizen.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (1)

alexhs (877055) | about a year ago | (#42267257)

quite a number of countries have laws which forbid extraditing their own citizens.

Not so many apparently [wikipedia.org] (Jurisdiction/Own nationals).

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267271)

I don't know about the United States but quite a number of countries have laws which forbid extraditing their own citizens.

Name one country which has entered into extradition treaties with another which has such laws. Just one.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (3, Informative)

paazin (719486) | about a year ago | (#42267131)

He's not a billionaire. Not even close; apparently he's worth something more in the lines of 4 mil, if that.

I'd figure that's small enough that no one would care in tossing him back over.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267475)

I'd figure that's small enough that no one would care in tossing him back over.

They probably couldn't get rid of that drama llama fast enough.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (0)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about a year ago | (#42269129)

Not even close; apparently he's worth something more in the lines of 4 mil, if that.

Somebody else said his retirement buyout was along the lines of $80M. But, I can see him having spent $76M on coke and whores - just hadn't seen that documented anywhere.

Which they would have to provide evidence for (2, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year ago | (#42267337)

Extradition only matters when you have proof someone is a criminal.

The whole issue of Belize wanting McAfee from the start was a farce; he didn't pay his protection money and they wanted to hurt/kill him. End of story.

The proof of this will to be seen in nothing whatsoever happening to McAfee on his return to the U.S. They have no proof against him and can't request to extradite someone just because he made them look like fools.

The whole story is a cautionary tale about living in places where corruption of the government is rampant.

Re:Which they would have to provide evidence for (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267477)

>The whole issue of Belize wanting McAfee from the start was a farce; he didn't pay his protection money and they wanted to hurt/kill him. End of story.
Are you saying that the police killed his neighbor in order to frame him? I'm not saying that's impossible, I just hadn't heard that theory.

Re:Which they would have to provide evidence for (2)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year ago | (#42267561)

Are you saying that the police killed his neighbor in order to frame him?

To me it seems more likely than McAfee having done so. There was nothing about McAfee that indicated he was violent.

Or it could have been some random crime. But it follows in line with McAfee's dog being shot.

Re:Which they would have to provide evidence for (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42268057)

Even though something sounds plausible you would have to show there was something seriously wrong too as it is unlikely someone would kill over it. It is one thing to kill dog and another to kill a human. As much hate you have for someone who wronged you taking it over the edge (and killing a person) requires a bit of insanity. Most people aren't going to kill there neighbor.

Re:Which they would have to provide evidence for (1)

squiggleslash (241428) | about a year ago | (#42268265)

He does, however, have a history of using drugs that cause strange, frequently violent, behavior in those who take it.

Re:Which they would have to provide evidence for (2)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year ago | (#42268829)

I think it more likely it was convenient for them to blame him for it.

"Hey, we have this dead guy. We don't want to work. Hey, his neighbor told us to eat shit the other day... why don't we just throw it on him?"

Sounds about right (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year ago | (#42268923)

I think your theory is probably spot on. It is more likely than the police specifically killing the neighbor, that's just useful...

Re:Which they would have to provide evidence for (2)

Arker (91948) | about a year ago | (#42269119)

Keep in mind that the official story is he is NOT a suspect in the murder of the neighbor. Supposedly the cops in Belize just want to interview him as a witness. If there was any evidence to implicate him, dont you think they would file charges instead of issuing the equivelant of a material witness warrant?

Re:Which they would have to provide evidence for (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about a year ago | (#42268167)

No, he most likely killed someone and is trying to fool everyone into thinking it's political. There is a chance he's merely a raving lunatic who actually didn't kill his neighbor, but there is essentially ZERO chance that the government killed his neighbor just to set him up.

Different countries have different legals systems and different ways to formally charge someone. In the US McAfee would have been charged already even though the investigation was not fully completed, but Belize may have a legal system where this can't happen until the law enforcement is 100% ready to hand the case over to the courts.

Re:Which they would have to provide evidence for (1)

tsotha (720379) | about a year ago | (#42268775)

Or they just may not have enough evidence. If they don't have a witness or physical evidence all they're left with is the suspicion that a drug-addled nut took a conflict with his neighbor too far.

Re:Which they would have to provide evidence for (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about a year ago | (#42268935)

It's still enough of a suspicion to want to question him. If the US does not extradite him or allow questioning on US soil, then McAfee has essentially purchased legal freedoms that average citizens can not.

Re:Which they would have to provide evidence for (1)

Entropy98 (1340659) | about a year ago | (#42269181)

The whole issue of Belize wanting McAfee from the start was a farce; he didn't pay his protection money and they wanted to hurt/kill him. End of story.

The proof of this will to be seen in nothing whatsoever happening to McAfee on his return to the U.S. They have no proof against him and can't request to extradite someone just because he made them look like fools.

The whole story is a cautionary tale about living in places where corruption of the government is rampant.

If corrupt Belize government officials are behind this couldn't they just, you know, fake some evidence? Witnesses, forensics, etc.

Re:US has extradition treaty with Belize (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42269829)

Billionaire? He was once worth about $100 million, but he got his ass kicked in the recession. He's worth more like $4 million now.

Moral of the story (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42266941)

Be kooky, rich, paranoid and objectionable beyond belief and you too can evade responsibility and accountability in third world countries.

Re:Moral of the story (1)

avandesande (143899) | about a year ago | (#42267009)

If he is still a US citizen he should be deported to the US. Would it have mattered if he crossed the border illegally from Mexico?

Re:Moral of the story (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267099)

That's just it, no one has proven he is responsible, so there is no escaping responsibility until he is convicted in something other than a kangaroo court. If there is a case then it needs to be made against his presumed innocence rather than the defense making a case against presumed guilt.

I sure as hell hope you aren't in a country that selects for jury duty from the populace, or that you are somehow unqualified.

Re:Moral of the story (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267499)

You are right that nobody has proved anything. Might that have something to do with the fact that he is running away all the time? I don't know if he had anything to do with the murder, but it certainly appears that he is completely nuts. If he wasn't involved in the murder then he should probably be committed to a mental hospital for his own safety. And if he is eventually charged with the murder, let's just say that he's got the insanity defense very well prepared.

Re:Moral of the story (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267787)

That's just it, no one has proven he is responsible, so there is no escaping responsibility until he is convicted in something other than a kangaroo court. If there is a case then it needs to be made against his presumed innocence rather than the defense making a case against presumed guilt.

I sure as hell hope you aren't in a country that selects for jury duty from the populace, or that you are somehow unqualified.

I dunno, I think you'd be save in calling him "irresponsible", given some of his escapades.

And products, too, but that's another rant.

More baggage than an airport terminal (0, Troll)

luis_a_espinal (1810296) | about a year ago | (#42267029)

"It was the most gracious expulsion I've ever experienced. Compared to my past two wives that expelled me this isn't a terrible trip."/quote> Seriously, there is something fucking wrong with this dude, and in serious need of counseling (and possibly prison, for he acted like a guilty man.)

Re:More baggage than an airport terminal (-1, Troll)

luis_a_espinal (1810296) | about a year ago | (#42267037)

"It was the most gracious expulsion I've ever experienced. Compared to my past two wives that expelled me this isn't a terrible trip."

Seriously, there is something fucking wrong with this dude, and in serious need of counseling (and possibly prison, for he acted like a guilty man.)

I hate it when I get a quote tag wrong.

Re:More baggage than an airport terminal (4, Informative)

geekoid (135745) | about a year ago | (#42267187)

I hate it you don't have a sense of humor.

Seriously, it was an ex wife joke, lighten up.

Re:More baggage than an airport terminal (-1, Troll)

luis_a_espinal (1810296) | about a year ago | (#42267209)

I hate it you don't have a sense of humor.

Seriously, it was an ex wife joke, lighten up.

It ain't an ex-wife joke. Have you been paying attention to how the guy talks? Every other paragraph is accompanied by an "ex-wife joke". Joke's on you if you think he's joking, not that I would care one or another (nor should it prevent me, or anyone else, from pointing out the obvious emotional baggage that comes with it.)

Re:More baggage than an airport terminal (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42268055)

I bet you spend a lot of time in the "friend zone".

And... One More Time. Hopefully the Last Time. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267097)

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innocent until proven guilty (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267149)

The public's cynical reaction to Mcafee is strong proof that we need "innocent until guilty," protection now more than ever in this world.

If you presume innocence for a moment, the things that have been happening to Mcafee look like tragedies that no one would wish on any human being.

Last I checked being strange doesn't automatically make you guilty of a crime.

Let's check the facts; Belize authorities have said they don't suspect him of being involved in the crime, there is no warrant for his arrest, and that they just want to question him. However, they were willing to go so far as to demand his extradition from Guatemala and get Interpol involved. And, if you watch the interview of Mcafee on youtube where he is being arrested, the Interpol agents all turned away in shame and faced away from the camera man. If this doesn't sound fishy to anyone else, I'm at a loss of words.

Something isn't right here. And, I for one feel bad for this man and what he has had to endure.

Also, he's not a billionaire, and never was.

And, various folks on forums and youtube are angry at his antivirus and saying it's good that this is happening to him because of their personal vendettas against his software. I'd like to point out he left the company in 1994 before Windows 95 came out, while the application was still on running on Microsoft DOS. For you kids who aren't aware, Mcafee antivirus was one of the best antivirus softwares available for DOS at the time. The fact that current management (Intel) drove the AV maker into the ground has nothing to do with the original founder. And, his character shouldn't be prematurely judged for your personal experiences with that piece of software.

Regarding, his drug habits, he's admitted to these but explained that he's been clean for more than a decade now. This may or may not be true, but it has nothing to do the extradition requests from Belize. Also, various forums are accusing him of being a coke head but he wasn't, he was experimenting with bath salts. He discovered that the form that he had invented on Belize make women sexually excited, hence the large group of women that were interested in him. If anything, this guy might have discovered a cure for frigidity.

Perform some research yourself on this guy and his predicament before you write vitriol or slander about him. If it were me in the same situation, I wouldn't want to be crucified by the public like he has been.

Re:innocent until proven guilty (0)

pseudofrog (570061) | about a year ago | (#42267253)

He's innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the law. That doesn't mean I have to or necessarily should assume he's innocent. Sorry, but fleeing to the border raises my eyebrows. On the other hand, he seems to be paranoid, so there's a chance that he fled even though he is innocent. But I don't have to presume innocence when evaluating the situation because I'm not acting as a juror.

Fleeing equally bolsters his own account (2)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year ago | (#42267373)

Sorry, but fleeing to the border raises my eyebrows.

If you really thought the police were going to kill you, why would you ever let them hold you? In fact the only logical action would be to leave the country by any means possible.

To me his leaving the border does not make it any more or less likely that he killed someone because it matches equally well with his theory they planned to kill him.

Compounded with the fact that we know Belize has a fairly corrupt government and I find it lots easier to believe him than the police.

Re:Fleeing equally bolsters his own account (2)

Klinky (636952) | about a year ago | (#42267565)

I think the part also about him faking the loss of this fortune and leaving the USA to avoid a wrongful death lawsuit also suggests that he is not terribly trustworthy.

Re:Fleeing equally bolsters his own account (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about a year ago | (#42268255)

That theory that they plan to kill him is illogical. They could have killed him at any time. Why wait until someone else kills his neighbor before pouncing? If it was the government who did the killing then what's the point of killing his neighbor just to be able to kill McAfee later? Yes, McAfee is paranoid and unstable, so it does make sense that he'd run even if he wasn't he culprit. Belize isn't going to kill him though they do want to put him in jail.

Re:Fleeing equally bolsters his own account (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42268813)

This. Which is more likely, that the "government overlords" out for you have gone so far as to KILL YOUR NEIGHBOR AND DOG to shut you up rather than killing you outright, dragging needless innocents into the proceedings and (eventually) turning your plight into an international affair, or that you're just crazy.

I pick crazy.

Innocent until otherwise, but still crazy.

Re:innocent until proven guilty (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267853)

Sorry, but fleeing to the border raises my eyebrows.

Your eyebrows are in front of a small and very naive brain.

You have only to consider the Jews who fled Germany in the 1930s to
know that not all who flee are even remotely guilty of a crime.

Seriously, you are an idiot. Do us all a favor and commit suicide, now.

Re:innocent until proven guilty (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267981)

You have only to consider the Jews who fled Germany in the 1930s to
know that not all who flee are even remotely guilty of a crime.

Really? You touched Godwin in a thread about John McAfee?

Seriously, you are an idiot. Do us all a favor and commit suicide, now.

Physician, heal thyself.

Re:innocent until proven guilty (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42269251)

He's innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the law. That doesn't mean I have to or necessarily should assume he's innocent.

Except that it absolutely does, at least in the United States.

We have a Republic, with elected officials, including some levels of law enforcement of judges, with other elected officials appointing those judges who aren't elected.

If we the people throw innocent until proven guilty out the window, you can be damned sure our politicians will only pay lip service to it - and instead, appoint 'tough on crime' tools in lieu of impartial justices, all for the sake of getting our votes.

Re:innocent until proven guilty (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42269161)

That is the result from bad karma after pushing his shitty trialware down our throats...

Re:innocent until proven guilty (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42269459)

You've managed to paint a very rosy picture. I especially like claiming that he may have cured frigidity. Everything you said could possibly be true, but the alternative theory is MUCH simpler:

1. He's a drug addict who's been out of touch with reality for a prolonged time
2. He shot and killed his neighbor in some kind of argument (or perceived threat due to drug use and being paranoid)
3. He fled the scene of the crime to avoid being charged with murder and going to jail

We have murdering drug addicts doing this kind of thing all the time, and there's no compelling reason to think McAfee is any different. That's why the public has such a low opinion of him. His story reads like any other drug-fueled murder.

Yes, it could be different, there could be special circumstances. But the simple answer is that he's just another selfish, irresponsible nutcase who did a lot of drugs, got into a very different mental state, and committed a crime for whatever reason seemed logical to him at the time. That he's had bizarre rambling paranoid explanations that involved large multi-government conspiracies doesn't help the idea that he's out of his mind. His story is almost as colorful and creative as yours.

So I would be very, very surprised if this turns out not to the case. Since he's rich, we may never know, and he may have gotten away with murder and will turn this around to make himself into the victim and a celebrity. Maybe we'll even have a movie about his life story, and the dead guy in Belize will still have no justice. Such is life.

Thank you McAfee (4, Funny)

Nyder (754090) | about a year ago | (#42267223)

for a few weeks of some of the funniest shit a celeb has done in quite awhile.

Re:Thank you McAfee (1)

interval1066 (668936) | about a year ago | (#42267461)

srsly, he strikes me as one of these "I'm rich, got there by being intelligent, and thus; I am greater than all of you, so piss off. I need to keep on doing whatever I want as I see fit." I'm feel in my bones that he did shoot that neighbor in Belize and was probably genuinely surprised that the local authorities wanted to bring him to justice. I could be wrong, but his pictures and actions to me just say "justified asshole".

If I were the board of McAffee Holding, Inc (or however they are registered) I would srsly think about changing the name of the corp.

Asshole != Murderer (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year ago | (#42267587)

I could be wrong, but his pictures and actions to me just say "justified asshole".

I agree with that but it's a huge leap from there to him killing anyone.

If it were a case of a "justified asshole" killing someone and being sure he could get away with it just through buying off police, there would be some evidence against him since he would not have cared about leaving any. The police have none.

It's a much smaller leap to imagine someone was trying to frame him and using violence to do so, say whoever shot his dog.

Re:Asshole != Murderer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42268107)

It's also a much smaller leap to imagine he might shoot someone while half psychotic from his home-cooked drugs.

Re:Asshole != Murderer (0)

Darinbob (1142669) | about a year ago | (#42268299)

He's not just an asshole, the guy probably has brain damage from his experimental enhanced bath salts, he's clearly paranoid. Ok, maybe eccentric but I'll put my money on actual insanity.

Re:Thank you McAfee (1)

Grayhand (2610049) | about a year ago | (#42268681)

for a few weeks of some of the funniest shit a celeb has done in quite awhile.

I think we're all gonna miss McAfee since it looks like it's Lohan's turn at bat. Fingers crossed McAfee tried to claim political asylum when Belize wants his ass back.

Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267243)

If he knew the Belizian government to be corrupt and dangerous for years... then why did he continue living in Belize?

Answers are numerous (5, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year ago | (#42267539)

If he knew the Belizian government to be corrupt and dangerous for years... then why did he continue living in Belize?

Because the benefits outweighed the costs until recently:

1) He liked to use drugs and it was much easier to get Belize police to look the other way.

2) He had a much greater access to women, he basically had a harem. It does not seem like he could find that many women willing to accommodate him in the U.S, at least not without paying them a lot of money.

Basically the answer is some guys will put up with a lot of crap for the sake of drugs & women.

Re:Answers are numerous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42268831)

I find the fact that he had access to multiple nubile, fertile women absolutely inspiring. I don't feel I could aspire to anything resembling his success in the US, but MAYBE, with the right calls and some luck, I could give a home to one or more women who actually like me (and yes, liking me for any money I may have in the future is still liking me- you like girls for their looks to some degree, right? Same thing).

Anyway, he's a success story in my book. Less time fucking around with strange drugs IMO, but other than that, really awesome. Hope he manages to bring his babes to a country home somewhere in the US!

Re:Why? (1)

ko7 (1990064) | about a year ago | (#42269275)

How many countries can you name that have governments that are not? ("corrupt and dangerous")

What about Sam? (2)

Kergan (780543) | about a year ago | (#42267269)

What about Sam [whoismcafee.com] , the Belizean chick a fourth of his age who followed him all along? Is she going to get kicked back to Belize?

Re:What about Sam? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42267833)

McAfee said he would not be accompanied by his 20-year-old Belizean girlfriend, but is seeking a visa for her. He also said he had retained a lawyer in the U.S.

FTA

His troubles may be only beginning. (3, Informative)

westlake (615356) | about a year ago | (#42267305)

The Treaty is one of a series of modern mutual legal assistance treaties being negotiated by the United States in order to counter criminal activities more effectively. The Treaty should be an effective tool to assist in the prosecution of a wide variety of crimes, including drug trafficking, money laundering, and terrorism offenses. The Treaty is self-executing.

The Treaty provides for a broad range of cooperation in criminal matters. Mutual assistance available under the Treaty includes: taking the testimony or statements of persons; providing documents, records, and articles of evidence; locating or identifying persons; serving documents; transferring persons in custody for testimony or other purposes;executing requests for searches and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to immobilization and forfeiture of assets, restitution to the victims of crime and collection of fines; and any other form of assistance not prohibited by the laws of the State from whom the assistance is requested.

I recommend that the Senate give early and favorable consideration to the Treaty, and give its advice and consent to ratification.

GEORGE W. BUSH.

TREATY WITH BELIZE ON MUTUAL LEGAL ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS [oas.org]

This tiny nation of only 280,000 people does seem to draw a surprising number of fugitives. They come here ''for the same reasons as the tourists,'' says Gerald Westby, Belize's police commissioner. ''It's English-speaking and close to Mexico.'' Some try to blend in with vacationers on sun-drenched coastal islands like Ambergris Cay, and others...try to find sanctuary in the jungle. They also appear to find comfort in the poverty (hence, their money goes further) and lawlessness (figuring they won't be a priority for local cops). Belize City is a violent place, currently suffering from a rash of ''pedal by'' shootings--executions by gunmen on bicycles.

Belize signed an extradition treaty with the United States in 2000, but officials are often quite willing to expedite a deportation instead of the lengthy extradition process. ''Belize is very close to being one of the most cooperative Central American nations,'' says James Schield, chief of international investigations for the U.S. Marshals Service.

Trouble in Paradise : U.S. fugitives may think they can hide in Belize, but here's the untold story of how some get caught [usnews.com]

Cooperation on this level works both ways. If Belize wants McAfee they will very likely get him.

Re:His troubles may be only beginning. (1)

borcharc (56372) | about a year ago | (#42267443)

Until he gets on a plane to Britain where he is also a citizen.

Re:His troubles may be only beginning. (1)

westlake (615356) | about a year ago | (#42268227)

Until he gets on a plane to Britain where he is also a citizen.

You can run but you can't hide.

Territories designated under part 2 are non-EU members of the European Convention on Extradition; or the London Scheme for Extradition within the Commonwealt; or else they are parties to bilateral extradition treaties with the UK. The countries involved are:

Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, The Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belize....

Extradition from the UK: Extradition Act 2003 - part 2 [homeoffice.gov.uk]

soon the Miami airport systems will slow down (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about a year ago | (#42268127)

soon the Miami airport systems will slow down when mcafee is dumped on to them.

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