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Islamic Hacker Group Resumes Attacks On Banks

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the washing-your-mouth-out-with-soap dept.

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tsamsoniw writes "PNC, Bank of America, SunTrust, and other major financial institutions have experienced a wave of DDoS attacks and site outages over the past couple of days, and Islamic extremist hacker group Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Cyber Fighters is claiming responsibility. The group, which launched similar attacks earlier this year, reiterated its demands: that a controversial YouTube video mocking the prophet Mohammed "be eliminated from the Internet.""

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Its becoming clear (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280389)

Religion is a disease of the mind, its victims need treatment, not mocking or pity or hate

Re:Its becoming clear (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280689)

Religion is a disease of the mind, its victims need treatment, not mocking or pity or hate

But the mocking is so much fun!

Re:Its becoming clear (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280937)

> Religion is a disease of the mind, its victims need treatment

It is not just religion, it is any kind of "us vs them" tribalism.

Re:Its becoming clear (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281051)

You anti-tribalists killed my father! Prepare to die!

(captcha: reaper)

Re:Its becoming clear (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281015)

These camel jockeys want the video removed? Fine, as soon as we remove all Muslims from existence.

Someone tell me (5, Interesting)

kc67 (2789711) | about 2 years ago | (#42280399)

Why can't these financial institutions stop a DDOS? I am being serious. Why can't these be mitigated at a data center?

Re:Someone tell me (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280457)

It's not that simple when the DDoS saturates the upstream providers' connections too...

Re:Someone tell me (3)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#42280559)

You can (some sites have before), but doing so takes up resources and won't necessarily stop all the different attack vectors. DDoS can use multiple approaches aside from just flooding the server with requests. You can, in theory, protect against all the known attacks, but that requires time and money before the attack starts, which might be wasted if you never get attacked (you don't typically want 10x your expected maximum load worth of bandwidth just sitting around unless you absolutely need it, for example).

Re:Someone tell me (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280599)

Why can't these financial institutions stop a DDOS? I am being serious. Why can't these be mitigated at a data center?

Why can we not just disconnet the countrys that are habouring this group even if it means removing a few miles of cable and killing the odd satelite ..

Re:Someone tell me (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281497)

Because the DDOS isn't coming from those say... 10 computers. It's coming from god knows how many computers in a botnet made up of computers from probably every country that has computers connected to the internet.

Re:Someone tell me (4, Insightful)

thoughtlover (83833) | about 2 years ago | (#42280603)

The real question is, why do these hackers think the banks are responsible for this video or have any way to even take it down --from the internet, much less. Yeah, good luck with that --right, reputation.com? And why does everyone call this a 'YouTube video', as if Google had something to do with funding its production? Does YouTube have a DDoS problem from this group, too?

Re:Someone tell me (5, Insightful)

operagost (62405) | about 2 years ago | (#42280847)

Because these terrorists are ignoramuses from countries where control of everything is centralized in a dictator or a theocracy, so naturally they can't comprehend of a liberal democracy where this might not be the case.

Re:Someone tell me (1)

Ubi_NL (313657) | about 2 years ago | (#42280931)

Well stated (sorry i dont have modpoints today)

Re:Someone tell me (1)

peragrin (659227) | about 2 years ago | (#42281073)

forget even being a liberal democracy.

This is the Internet. the only thing that get's lost on the Net are morals. And even that depends on the person.

Sure things come and go. but I googled a website I created 15 years ago. The severs and pages long ago stopped working, but I found it in 4 different caches.

Once it is on the NET it never goes away. Now think about that while posting that picture on Facebook

Re:Someone tell me (-1, Offtopic)

ScentCone (795499) | about 2 years ago | (#42281635)

Now if only Google - with all of that reach - could help people to finally understand how to use apostrophes.

Re:Someone tell me (1)

Trepidity (597) | about 2 years ago | (#42281011)

That's also a question, but I'm not sure that's "the real question". To me, why a giant corporation with business-critical e-commerce systems can't withstand a DDoS is a more puzzling question than why there exists, somewhere in the world, someone with stupid opinions.

Re:Someone tell me (2, Insightful)

high_rolla (1068540) | about 2 years ago | (#42281021)

My guess is that they feel if they can disrupt the services of banks it will in turn disrupt the functioning of many organisations that rely on those banks for financial services. This would have a negative effect on the economy as a whole (which is already in bad shape) and possibly get the attention of the government to do something to stop it.

Now, I don't feel this is actually going to work like that but that is my best guess at what they were attempting.

Or maybe they figured a lot of banks higher ups are friends with politicians whom they could go crying to to make it stop.

Re:Someone tell me (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about 2 years ago | (#42281397)

The real question is, why do these hackers think the banks are responsible for this video or have any way to even take it down --from the internet, much less.

When the banks refused to process donations they very nearly destroyed wikileaks.
Maybe their reasoning isn't quite so far-fetched after all.

Re:Someone tell me (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281541)

It makes no difference "who is responsible" or "who has a way to take it down", merely that someone in the West is, and someone can probably figure out the latter. So what they want to do is to incentivise those "someones" by inconveniencing them.

The banks themselves are just collateral damage. The attackers are working on the assumption that the people who do know how to do these things - probably use banking services, and will therefore be inconvenienced by their attack. It's far from irrational.

Re:Someone tell me (1, Informative)

DigiShaman (671371) | about 2 years ago | (#42280803)

DDOS = Distributed Denial Of Service.

Laws of physics. Even if you have hundreds of thousands of of zombie infected machines blowing UPD packets towards your public gateway IPs, nothing you can do to stop it from taking up bandwidth. That's why it's a DDOS. It's a digital siege attack!

Re:Someone tell me (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about 2 years ago | (#42281673)

you stop it before it crosses YOUR wan (or lan) link.

ie, push filters outward to your cooperative isp's so that its stopped there.

(no idea if anyone does that, but its how it should be done)

Re:Someone tell me (1)

sjames (1099) | about 2 years ago | (#42280993)

A bunch of connections coming in from a large group of IP addresses with random timing. Each made to look like it could be a legitimate customer looking at the site. What is your suggestion?

Re:Someone tell me (1)

Mordok-DestroyerOfWo (1000167) | about 2 years ago | (#42281133)

I've had good results with piping to /dev/null

Re:Someone tell me (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about 2 years ago | (#42281573)

A bunch of connections coming in from a large group of IP addresses with random timing. Each made to look like it could be a legitimate customer looking at the site. What is your suggestion?

Compared to the bandwidth available at their data centers a bazillion connections attempts ain't nothing at all. The problem is typically with the processing overhead to handle the connection attempts and the bandwidth consumed in giving them a fuill-blown response. All that can be mitigated with a front-end box whose job is simply to handle the 3-way tcp handshake and transmit a very light-weight page with some javascript on it that must run in order to get to the real processing heavy main page.

You risk an escalation where the DDOSers figure out how to execute the javascript and also load the real page, but the general idea is to make each DDOS zombie do orders of magnitude more work than the target's computers have to. If they are running a point-n-click DDOSer chances are that any changes in complexity will stymie them for weeks if not months as those types of script-kiddies general lack the expertise to make significant changes on the fly.

Re:Someone tell me (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281023)

"that a controversial YouTube video mocking the prophet Mohammed "be eliminated from the Internet.""
I don't think these idiots understand how the internet works. I know of at least a few dozen people with backup copies. Take one down, another will pop up. Ban from an entire website, it will be posted to another website. You can't eliminate popular information from the internet. The best thing you can do is just not let it get to you.

Re:Someone tell me (3, Interesting)

SecurityTheatre (2427858) | about 2 years ago | (#42281699)

I worked to help a company under DDOS attack mitigate the threat.

Their normal bandwidth usage was on the order of 400Mbps, they has about 1Gbps of capacity. They were peered to several regional NOCs that maintained about 50Gbps of connectivity, I believe. Keep in mind that 50Gbps with multiple peers costs on the order of $400,000 per year, if my math is correct.

Well, regardless, the DDoS attacks from a single individual (who was later identified) were pushing about 60Gbps (!?!) of attack bandwidth. They not only overwhelmed the provider and their small datacenter, but the upstream NOC as well. The other issue is that the DDoS attacks were coming from a huge number of endpoints, sometimes 100,000 or more, so it was not practical to simply blacklist all of their networks, especially since many were on cable modems, or other servers in major companies that had been infected with some botnet, or otherwise.

On the whole, a major financial institution CAN mitigate these attacks. You should note that the Bank of America website is still up.

However, I estimate it costs them in excess of $100,000 per month to do so.

Hacker group name stands for what? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280421)

The hacker group name must translate to myg0t...

Flawless (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280435)

This strategy should work.

Re:Flawless (2)

bioneuralnet (1473843) | about 2 years ago | (#42280579)

Yes, it's obvious that Bank of America produced that video. Now excuse me while I go throw pinecones at the moon in support of the Kyoto treaty.

Re:Flawless (1)

the_other_one (178565) | about 2 years ago | (#42280983)

Better yet:
    Throw pine cones at 24 Sussex Dr. in Ottawa.

That's a long name (4, Funny)

thoughtlover (83833) | about 2 years ago | (#42280439)

...and Islamic extremist hacker group Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Cyber Fighters is claiming responsibility

Man, they really need a simpler name. A catchy logo would help, too.

Re:That's a long name (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280601)

Simple:

A cool turban logo with the words "I hack you!"

Re:That's a long name (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280779)

Simple:

A cool turban logo with the words "I hack you!"

Do they make turbans in the shape of a dunce cap?

Re:That's a long name (1)

NeoMorphy (576507) | about 2 years ago | (#42280897)

Simple:

A cool turban logo with the words "I hack you!"

Do they make turbans in the shape of a dunce cap?

Maybe we should make dunce caps in the shape of turbans?

Re:That's a long name (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280633)

How about "religious fuckwits"?

Re:That's a long name (2, Funny)

Fluffeh (1273756) | about 2 years ago | (#42280651)

Man, they really need a simpler name. A catchy logo would help, too.

Who cares what their name is. Clearly they are doing this to get their 72 Interest Free Credit Cards on the other side... Wait, wut?

Re:That's a long name (4, Funny)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 2 years ago | (#42280805)

Man, they really need a simpler name. A catchy logo would help, too.

I propose calling them Muhhackers and the logo could be Muhammad with a logic bomb in his turban.

Re:That's a long name (1)

Saija (1114681) | about 2 years ago | (#42281295)

+1 Funny

Power Rangers (1)

Das Auge (597142) | about 2 years ago | (#42281529)

I like their name. They should all wear primary colored outfits and strike cool poses.

Misdirected anger? (4, Insightful)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | about 2 years ago | (#42280487)

The group ... reiterated its demands: that a controversial YouTube video mocking the prophet Mohammed "be eliminated from the Internet."

And these idiots think the banks are responsible and/or control the Internet and its content? - sigh

Re:Misdirected anger? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280623)

Remember, the video was funded by an Egyptian who was trying to get radical idiots to foam at the mouth and chant "death to America". They don't want to take it down, because then the chanting would stop.

It was created in order to be a reason to hate the U.S.

There is nothing that can be done against people like that except to surgically excise the stupid bits. Then they get mad because you think they're stupid. But what the hell else are they?

Re:Misdirected anger? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280641)

They really do, they figure the Jews own the banks and all media outlets in the USA don't cha know

Re:Misdirected anger? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280643)

Because being destructive is easy and makes them feel like their life has meaning?

Re:Misdirected anger? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280645)

The group ... reiterated its demands: that a controversial YouTube video mocking the prophet Mohammed "be eliminated from the Internet."

And these idiots think the banks are responsible and/or control the Internet and its content? - sigh

More likely they think the general public care what happens to big banks. Which is almost true kinda...

Re:Misdirected anger? (-1, Troll)

H0p313ss (811249) | about 2 years ago | (#42280767)

The group ... reiterated its demands: that a controversial YouTube video mocking the prophet Mohammed "be eliminated from the Internet."

And these idiots think the banks are responsible and/or control the Internet and its content? - sigh

Remember that these are the same kinds of people that caused tens of thousands of Muslims to be killed in Iraq and Afghanistan by triggering "The War on Terror" by killing three thousand civilians.

These are the same kind of people who have not figured out that firing hundreds of missiles a year in to Israel will only get more Palestinians killed.

Logic and clear thinking is not exactly their forte.

Re:Misdirected anger? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280971)

The stupidity of this comment belies your lack of logic and clear thinking

Re:Misdirected anger? (0)

H0p313ss (811249) | about 2 years ago | (#42281427)

The stupidity of this comment belies your lack of logic and clear thinking

You lost me, can you be more specific?

Re:Misdirected anger? (0)

H0p313ss (811249) | about 2 years ago | (#42281685)

40% Troll
30% Insightful
30% Overrated

I really pushed someone's buttons.

You do realize that I'm criticizing violent Muslim fundamentalists?

Re:Misdirected anger? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280885)

Are you sure these idiots are not psyop officers doing things in their enemy name so that people get angry with them. Googling their name at once results to the conflict area Israel/Palestine. And currently the Israel is getting very negative feedback while the palestinians are getting positive. If palestinians would also get some negative feedback it would even out the odds a little.

Take everything with a big spoon of salt when it concerns this region and everything that comes from there. Israel has even special forces that look, act, and speak like palestinians and can not be differentiated. So it isnt such a far fetched idea that they would target the rest of the world with psyops I cant think of any country that doesnt have psyops or use it.

Re:Misdirected anger? (1)

kaatochacha (651922) | about 2 years ago | (#42281433)

Wait, you're suggesting this is psyops by Israel, and getting a +5 insightful?
that makes as much sense as your post being psyops.....wait, nevermind.

Re:Misdirected anger? (1)

sribe (304414) | about 2 years ago | (#42281105)

And these idiots think the banks are responsible and/or control the Internet and its content? - sigh

Remember that some of these people live under regimes where no media is ever created without government involvement, or at least complicity.

Re:Misdirected anger? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281205)

If you follow the link in the article to the Pastebin message, they actually "attempt" to explain why they are attacking financial institutions.

They know that the banks don't control the internet or this particular content. They are, however, still idiots - just not for that particular reason.

they put the wacky in the www (1)

swschrad (312009) | about 2 years ago | (#42281237)

one of these days, somebody is going to say fuck it, and once they find country of origin, are going to organize a targeted DDOS back to them that wipes their TLDs off the web for weeks, months, or years. maybe then we can get some international leadership to put these nitwits in a can with Prince Albert and lock them in the fridge to see how fast it's running.

Organised religion/dogma is ruining this world (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280521)

The irony of their actions condemns me!

PNC (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280533)

This explains why I've been unable to log into my PNC web banking over the past couple of days.

I wish I would have heard this from PNC instead of Slashdot. :-/

How stupid do they think we really are? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280537)

This is retarded. Their demands are that a YouTube video mocking Mohammed "be eliminated from the Internet". Anyone intelligent enough do do these kinds of attacks would be smart enough to know that the internet is not very "censorable". Their demand is meaningless; they're just gonna keep doing it. Period. Why even bother making a demand in the first place? Somehow these terrorists have convinced themselves that they are superior in intelligence and that the rest of us are gullible. That in and of itself is funny as hell.

Re:How stupid do they think we really are? (3, Insightful)

HexaByte (817350) | about 2 years ago | (#42280731)

How about we just eliminate all of the Prophet Mohammed's followers from the face of the earth?

Maybe the banks should tell them if they don't stop the they'll retaliate by bombing Mecca with pigs.

I've really had enough of these shit-heads.

Re:How stupid do they think we really are? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280925)

Hmn,,, live pigs, no. But bacon! Why not a bacon bomb???

A bombardment of bacon wrapped bacon balls wrapped in bacon!!!

Re:How stupid do they think we really are? (5, Insightful)

Merk42 (1906718) | about 2 years ago | (#42281005)

So... making ignorant threats against an entire culture is okay when you do it?

Re:How stupid do they think we really are? (0, Troll)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about 2 years ago | (#42281235)

How about we just eliminate all of the Prophet Mohammed's followers from the face of the earth?

Maybe the banks should tell them if they don't stop the they'll retaliate by bombing Mecca with pigs.

I've really had enough of these shit-heads.

Funny how they have exactly the same misdirected opinion of you.

Do you not recognize yourself in the mirror here? A small subset of a group of people blame an entire group of another people for the actions of a small subset of them.

Fuck them (1)

Kergan (780543) | about 2 years ago | (#42280549)

'nuff said

Re:Fuck them (4, Interesting)

ultranova (717540) | about 2 years ago | (#42280903)

The muslims or the banks?

Snark aside, I think we should encourage the transition from real to this kind of financial cyber-terrorism - not only does it not get anyone killed, but the targets have almost certainly deserved it many times over. Heck, harassing the banks could well end up helping the economy by hindering their ability to parasite off it.

Two evils duking it out is great for the rest of us, who get a break from both, and some free entertainment on top of it. Make some popcorn, pop a few beers, and watch the fireworks.

Re:Fuck them (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280977)

The muslims or the banks?

Yes.

Not that I'm into Islamist hackers or anything (1)

arcite (661011) | about 2 years ago | (#42280551)

But think about it, here we are in the second decade of the 21st century, and we have notorious cyber terrorists hacking banking systems, wrecking havoc! It's like, the future man! Johnny Mnemonic here we come! Hack the planet!

Re:Not that I'm into Islamist hackers or anything (4, Funny)

Ambiguous Coward (205751) | about 2 years ago | (#42280587)

wrecking havoc

Oh, no! Our precious havoc!

the goal... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280569)

If this hacker group is "sophisticated" enough to DDOS banks... wouldn't they realize that "eliminating" ANYTHING from the Internet is impossible?

Re:the goal... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280851)

The most likely scenario is that these are a bunch of script kiddies that managed to string together enough LOIC users to crash the pathetic networks of these banks...

Islamism is the Problem (0, Flamebait)

TheMiddleRoad (1153113) | about 2 years ago | (#42280571)

These Islamists want to control you and your life. Convert or suffer. Yes, they are weak now, but that may not always be the case. All you pricks that crap on Israel need to know that millions of Muslims, perhaps not a majority, but millions of Muslims hate you.

Re:Islamism is the Problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281225)

so as an atheist i am hated by millions of muslim and millions of christians....but one day the muslim will get me, but the christians won't, so be scared of the muslims but not the christians, got it. Thank you so much for that insightful knowledge of exactly dick fucking squat.

Re:Islamism is the Problem (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281479)

When the Christians come up with government support to kill you for being an atheist I'll start to consider them a bigger threat. Until then you're neglecting the bigger picture. Most likely because you have a chip on your shoulder and haven't seriously considered how much your life would be totally fucked in a Muslim nation. And so it goes.
 
Why is it that every article about Islam brings out the Christian bashers in droves? I guess these kinds of people have no perspective. In some countries your post would get you jailed (and worse) for admitting to be an atheist. Tell me how the Christians are doing this to you again? Show me the great Christian theocracy is that you guys claim is just as bad as nations that openly support Sharia law.

Re:Islamism is the Problem (0)

Dan667 (564390) | about 2 years ago | (#42281269)

does that make the israeli treatment of Palestinians some how ok? Nope.

Re:Islamism is the Problem (2)

Nyder (754090) | about 2 years ago | (#42281567)

These Islamists want to control you and your life. Convert or suffer. Yes, they are weak now, but that may not always be the case. All you pricks that crap on Israel need to know that millions of Muslims, perhaps not a majority, but millions of Muslims hate you.

Well, this is a good example of why religions are stupid and harmful. Hate? Is that what religions teach? Hate me because I'm different? Because I'm a white American? Or is it because I don't believe in religions? I don't hate you, I don't hate anyone. If being religious means I need to hate, I DO NOT WANT!

I don't care what you believe, but if you hate me because of your beliefs, then you have some serious problems.

"Hackers" who don't understand the Internet (2)

MaxToTheMax (1389399) | about 2 years ago | (#42280615)

This story just goes to show, anyone can install and use Low-Orbit Ion Cannon, even if he or she doesn't understand how the Internet works. No matter where you fall on the "hacker" definition debate [wikipedia.org] , it's pretty clear that these people aren't hackers.

A short sharp shock needed (2)

Animats (122034) | about 2 years ago | (#42280629)

If Islam is that threatened by a badly produced video from a religious group, maybe it just needs a bigger push to bring it down.

Re:A short sharp shock needed (2)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42280821)

Perhaps a demonstration of Islam and Rule 34 is in order. (Actually, it most likely already exists and many of these people know of it. The hypocrisy of many religious folks is pretty spectacular at times)

Extremist group? (2)

timeOday (582209) | about 2 years ago | (#42280735)

If all they're doing is DDOS'ing websites they disagree with, they're exactly as extremist as Anonymous.

Re:Extremist group? (1)

EdIII (1114411) | about 2 years ago | (#42280911)

Not really. Anonymous either does it for the laughs, the "prestige", or just to release records that will increase government transparency or reveal corporate corruption.

Anonymous does not hack McDonald's and then demand that Toys R Us reduce the retail price of Barbie toys by 50%.

Re:Extremist group? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281139)

"Anonymous does not hack McDonald's and then demand that Toys R Us reduce the retail price of Barbie toys by 50%."

Don't give them ideas!

Re:Extremist group? (1)

kaatochacha (651922) | about 2 years ago | (#42281489)

Yet

Re:Extremist group? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281671)

that would be rather lulz worthy

ROFLCOPTER (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280843)

If he is a prophet or whatever the hell he is supposedly supposed to be, I think he would be (or maybe not) above something so petty. Besides the fact that he is dead anyways if he even existed. Surely he would have something better to do than throw tantrums over cartoons/comics/videos...etc.

Same goes for most other religions too that do things like this. Remember the Jesus thing and things like... don't kill? or turn the other cheek? yeah quite a few don't follow those. Not even going to get started on the marriage bullshit.

Muslim radicals targeting bankers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280855)

Now where did I put my camera? I need to make a movie about Mohammed...

Retaliate! (4, Funny)

kawabago (551139) | about 2 years ago | (#42280871)

At 8pm EST Dec. 13 let's all DDOS God! Repeat Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah ...

Re:Retaliate! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42280935)

Mushroom, mushroom!

Re:Retaliate! (2)

HexaByte (817350) | about 2 years ago | (#42280961)

At 8pm EST Dec. 13 let's all DDOS God! Repeat Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah ...

Heaven.com replies: "I'm sorry but there is no one here by that name."

Re:Retaliate! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281407)

Sorry, you are broadcasting in the wrong direction. Should be towards Mecca.

seriously (1)

MakersDirector (2767101) | about 2 years ago | (#42280895)

why are we taking this seriously? it's fiction, guys, quit falling victim to the fiction engine... silly women...

the only sensible thing... (1)

VMaN (164134) | about 2 years ago | (#42280981)

The only sensible thing is to give the video more exposure.. Anyone got a link?

Re:the only sensible thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281329)

You want a link to the video? You'll find it here. [youtube.com]

Hope that's useful!

Islamic Hackers.. (0, Flamebait)

rizole (666389) | about 2 years ago | (#42281007)

....are arseholes.

Re:Islamic Hackers.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281331)

This is the dark side of open sharing on the Internet. It enables otherwise harmless, vein-popping, keyboard warrior fanatics to become script kiddies, making them feel like gods. If Predator strikes become less expensive in the future, putting these idiots on the checklist is a service to the overall human gene pool.

They want WHAT now? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281159)

The group, which launched similar attacks earlier this year, reiterated its demands: "be eliminated from the Internet."

Really? That's all? Yeah, good luck with that...

Seriously, you assclowns need to loosen the towels on your heads and stop taking advice from Barbara Streisand. There is no "Delete From Internet" button. Not gonna happen. It's completely, undeniably, 100% impossible no matter how much you want it done. Stop fucking your camels for five seconds and read up on what the Internet actually is. Hint: It's not some giant repository somewhere that holds all these files (and no, Mr. Stevens, it's not a series of tubes, either).

While you're at it, you may as well just own up to the fact that some people disagree with your religion, some people are dickheads, and some people fall into both categories at the same time. Instead of condemning them, why not show them kindness and tolerance so they might come to agree with you? Islam is a religion of peace, is it not?

Nevermind. What was I thinking? This was never about some low-budget backyard video. This was just another excuse for you to cause violence or vandalism in the name of Allah. Actually, it's not even that. It's the whims of some self-aggrandising imam who has the audacity to think he speaks for the creator of the universe (whether your name for this being is God, Allah, FSM, or whatever). Stop being an ignorant puppet to some bearded clown's private dictatorial masturbation fantasies!

Ragheads of the world, UNITE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281161)

...and go kill yourselves. We don't need islamic terrorism offline or online.

If you can't be part of civilized society, kill yourselves. Or we will.

Bend over and cough until the puppet pops out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281257)

Memorable quotes for
Looker (1981)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082677/quotes [imdb.com]

"John Reston: Television can control public opinion more effectively than armies of secret police, because television is entirely voluntary. The American government forces our children to attend school, but nobody forces them to watch T.V. Americans of all ages *submit* to television. Television is the American ideal. Persuasion without coercion. Nobody makes us watch. Who could have predicted that a *free* people would voluntarily spend one fifth of their lives sitting in front of a *box* with pictures? Fifteen years sitting in prison is punishment. But 15 years sitting in front of a television set is entertainment. And the average American now spends more than one and a half years of his life just watching television commercials. Fifty minutes, every day of his life, watching commercials. Now, that's power."

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"The United States has it's own propaganda, but it's very effective because people don't realize that it's propaganda. And it's subtle, but it's actually a much stronger propaganda machine than the Nazis had but it's funded in a different way. With the Nazis it was funded by the government, but in the United States, it's funded by corporations and corporations they only want things to happen that will make people want to buy stuff. So whatever that is, then that is considered okay and good, but that doesn't necessarily mean it really serves people's thinking - it can stupify and make not very good things happen."
- Crispin Glover: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000417/bio [imdb.com]

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"It's only logical to assume that conspiracies are everywhere, because that's what people do. They conspire. If you can't get the message, get the man." - Mel Gibson (from an interview)

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William Casey, CIA Director

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"The real reason for the official secrecy, in most instances, is not to keep the opposition (the CIA's euphemistic term for the enemy) from knowing what is going on; the enemy usually does know. The basic reason for governmental secrecy is to keep you, the American public, from knowing - for you, too, are considered the opposition, or enemy - so that you cannot interfere. When the public does not know what the government or the CIA is doing, it cannot voice its approval or disapproval of their actions. In fact, they can even lie to your about what they are doing or have done, and you will not know it. As for the second advantage, despite frequent suggestion that the CIA is a rogue elephant, the truth is that the agency functions at the direction of and in response to the office of the president. All of its major clandestine operations are carried out with the direct approval of or on direct orders from the White House. The CIA is a secret tool of the president - every president. And every president since Truman has lied to the American people in order to protect the agency. When lies have failed, it has been the duty of the CIA to take the blame for the president, thus protecting him. This is known in the business as "plausible denial." The CIA, functioning as a secret instrument of the U.S. government and the presidency, has long misused and abused history and continues to do so."
- Victor Marchetti, Propaganda and Disinformation: How the CIA Manufactures History

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George Carlin:

"The real owners are the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians, they're an irrelevancy. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the statehouses, the city halls. They've got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies, so that they control just about all of the news and information you hear. They've got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else.

But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. That's against their interests. They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly they're getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago.

You know what they want? Obedient workers people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And, now, they're coming for your Social Security. They want your fucking retirement money. They want it back, so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They'll get it. They'll get it all, sooner or later, because they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club.

This country is finished."

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[1967] Jim Garrison Interview "In a very real and terrifying sense, our Government is the CIA and the Pentagon, with Congress reduced to a debating society. Of course, you can't spot this trend to fascism by casually looking around. You can't look for such familiar signs as the swastika, because they won't be there. We won't build Dachaus and Auschwitzes; the clever manipulation of the mass media is creating a concentration camp of the mind that promises to be far more effective in keeping the populace in line. We're not going to wake up one morning and suddenly find ourselves in gray uniforms goose-stepping off to work. But this isn't the test. The test is: What happens to the individual who dissents? In Nazi Germany, he was physically destroyed; here, the process is more subtle, but the end results can be the same. I've learned enough about the machinations of the CIA in the past year to know that this is no longer the dreamworld America I once believed in. The imperatives of the population explosion, which almost inevitably will lessen our belief in the sanctity of the individual human life, combined with the awesome power of the CIA and the defense establishment, seem destined to seal the fate of the America I knew as a child and bring us into a new Orwellian world where the citizen exists for the state and where raw power justifies any and every immoral act. I've always had a kind of knee-jerk trust in my Government's basic integrity, whatever political blunders it may make. But I've come to realize that in Washington, deceiving and manipulating the public are viewed by some as the natural prerogatives of office. Huey Long once said, "Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism." I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security."

Clear solution (1)

bambewn (2588841) | about 2 years ago | (#42281381)

I think that if we shut down all the interenets to every snackbar, the attacks would stop.
Coming to this conclusion was very logical as they clearly state that they operate and worship the ground of said snackbars in every video ever posted.
So there you go! Problem solved. No snacks, no problems.

here lemme fix that for you.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281405)

s/Islamic extremist hacker group Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Cyber Fighters/white middle-class Canadian and American kids pretending to be part of the Izz ad-Din Al-Qassam bridges, AKA anonymous/g

Sounds allot like lowsec script kiddies got tired (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281451)

of eve online and decided to allahakbahr it up IRL

probably not even classifyable as terrorism

There is nothing controversial about the video (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281571)

Everything is bound to offend *someone* in the world. That doesn't make it controversial. It's only controversial if it offends people who count (and Islamic Extremists don't count). Align our values with their own is nothing but appeasement and will not make them any less extremist.

Giddy Up! (1)

LifesABeach (234436) | about 2 years ago | (#42281651)

I do a lot of business with Wells Fargo and Company. I don't see a problem here; yawn.

From all of us who were really affected by this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42281697)

The only harm you have caused is to make it difficult for the banks' customers to access their websites. You have done nothing to affect normal banking activities. You have simply shit on us little guys who just want to check our account balances and transfer money between our accounts. On behalf of all of us that you screwed, GO FUCK YOURSELVES. To the banks - you should all post the video on your home pages.
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