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Adam Lanza Destroyed His Computer Before Rampage

samzenpus posted about a year ago | from the picking-up-the-pieces dept.

Crime 1719

Hugh Pickens writes writes "Here's some breaking news I saw MSNBC this morning that I haven't seen reported anywhere in the print media yet. NBC reporter Pete Williams reported on Chuck Todd's The Daily Rundown that (police) 'had been hopeful that they could extract some information from the computer at (Lanza's) home. He was very into computers. Before he left his mother's house on the morning that he shot his mother while she was sleeping, he damaged extensively his computer. He took the hard drive out, pulled the disk out, and did a lot of damage to it,' said Williams. 'It's not clear that (police) are going to be able to extract any information or not.' It has previously been reported that Lanza left no online footprint. Police had been eager to examine Lanza's computer in hopes of determining a motive in his killings or finding records of purchases of firearms and ammunition. 'If he visited certain websites, they are going to glean whatever information they can from that and see what it means,' said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly. 'Does he have friends he communicates with online? Was there a fight with somebody?'"

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cue jokes about RieserFS (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316697)

I wonder if it ran Linux

Re:cue jokes about RieserFS (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316809)

I wonder if it ran Linux

In all seriousness, it's fairly likely that it did. The guy was a diagnosed aspie and was reputed at high school to be a computer genius. Which doesn't mean he was a computer genius, but it does make it likely that he was not only running Windows. Who knows, he may even have had a slashdot account.

Re:cue jokes about RieserFS (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316831)

He must have run Linux because he was a genius? Bahahaha!

I run Linux because I'm a masochist.

Re:cue jokes about RieserFS (2, Insightful)

mcgrew (92797) | about a year ago | (#42317129)

I run Linux because I can't afford a Mac and I'm not a masochist.

Re:cue jokes about RieserFS (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316925)

The guy was a diagnosed aspie and was reputed at high school to be a computer genius.

To the general public, "Plays lots of video games" == "Computer Genius".

Why physically damage the drive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316717)

Just do a few passes with DBAN.

Re:Why physically damage the drive? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316761)

Why do anything this guy did? Maybe he was just a crazy paranoid asshole.

Re:Why physically damage the drive? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316869)

Indeed, if there were any signs to be gleaned from his computer, it doesn't matter since they'll be ignored anyway.

When people who knew him are interviewed, they'll all say "he was horribly unhappy, but he didn't seem like a killer". But when questioned further, they'll all remember tons of warning signs that they ignored, because nobody gives a shit until somebody starts killing.

Re:Why physically damage the drive? (5, Interesting)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#42317011)

Indeed, if there were any signs to be gleaned from his computer, it doesn't matter since they'll be ignored anyway

One would hope so.

The alternative is even more government intrusion into your computers and communications.

The fact that he did destroy them suggests he knew there was stuff on them which might be of use to the police. Since he obviously intended to take his own life, none of this could be used against him personally. One has to wonder if he had fellow travelers in his journey to insanity that he thought he could protect via destruction.

I would imagine his ISP is surrendering logs at this very moment.

Re:Why physically damage the drive? (5, Insightful)

sjames (1099) | about a year ago | (#42317067)

And because they're not really warning signs since more often than not, nothing happens when they're present and typically nobody gives them a thought except in retrospect.

Re:Why physically damage the drive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316817)

Just do a few passes with DBAN.

Stop being logical. A violent person destroyed his computer before committing an unimaginable crime. It's not supposed to make sense.

Re:Why physically damage the drive? (5, Insightful)

Jeng (926980) | about a year ago | (#42316891)

A gun in hand is quicker than a couple passes with DBAN.

Re:Why physically damage the drive? (2)

Hatta (162192) | about a year ago | (#42316955)

Why do anything? Destroy the secure passphrase in your brain and your encrypted storage is as good as gone.

Re:Why physically damage the drive? (4, Insightful)

sjames (1099) | about a year ago | (#42317029)

Physical destruction is the gold standard for this sort of thing.

Of course, the real question is why did he do any of this? The way he wiped his computer is fairly low on the list of things better left undone that day.

Re:Why physically damage the drive? (2, Insightful)

Jawnn (445279) | about a year ago | (#42317117)

Because the hammer is faster, given the limited resources the cops are likely to expend on attempts to reconstruct the drive's contents.

it tells you one thing, at least (5, Insightful)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year ago | (#42316719)

Premeditated. This wasn't an impulsive act.

Re:it tells you one thing, at least (5, Insightful)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year ago | (#42316771)

Premeditated. This wasn't an impulsive act.

Full body kevlar (as reported by the media, anyway, though I have my doubts) isn't something people put on as an impulse, either.

Re:it tells you one thing, at least (5, Funny)

cayenne8 (626475) | about a year ago | (#42316813)

Full body kevlar (as reported by the media, anyway, though I have my doubts) isn't something people put on as an impulse, either.

Speak for yourself...

Some of us like to think that S.W.A.T. is a fashion statement, especially if you accessorize.

Talk about sexy on the catwalk..sporting kevlar and flashbangs!!!

Re:it tells you one thing, at least (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316857)

Full body kevlar (as reported by the media, anyway, though I have my doubts) isn't something people put on as an impulse, either.

Speak for yourself...

Some of us like to think that S.W.A.T. is a fashion statement, especially if you accessorize.

Talk about sexy on the catwalk..sporting kevlar and flashbangs!!!

No Team Flashing!

Re:it tells you one thing, at least (4, Funny)

alienzed (732782) | about a year ago | (#42316947)

I take it you don't live in New York...

Re:it tells you one thing, at least (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year ago | (#42317039)

I take it you don't live in New York...

No... but I thought guns were basically illegal there.

Do many people in "gun-free" cities walk around sporting BPVs all the time?

Sez you (4, Funny)

Safety Cap (253500) | about a year ago | (#42317045)

I was running late for work today and realized I forgot to do laundry over the weekend.

The only thing left to do was put my full body kevlar on over my "Venom" costume.

Fortunately, I work for a bunch of blind people.

Re:it tells you one thing, at least (4, Interesting)

godrik (1287354) | about a year ago | (#42316779)

I heard a psychologist on NPR last week saying that most massive shooting are long time premeditated actions. Almost no shooter just goes crazy take a gun and shoot everybody. They all spend weeks at it.

Re:it tells you one thing, at least (4, Interesting)

YodasEvilTwin (2014446) | about a year ago | (#42316901)

Yeah, you'd think you'd have to work up to that sort of thing. It's too complex an action for it to just come out of someone at random; it's the result of long-term turmoil and a damaged pysche.

Re:it tells you one thing, at least (4, Interesting)

operagost (62405) | about a year ago | (#42316981)

Which is why mandatory waiting periods are pointless. The wait should be no longer than it takes to make the federally mandated background check-- which apparently somehow needs start taking people's mental health into account. He was only 20, so the known issues he had in school should have been flagged. I imagine the privacy laws in regards to minors may be an issue.

Re:it tells you one thing, at least (5, Informative)

Talderas (1212466) | about a year ago | (#42317079)

He didn't purchase any of the guns he used so a background check wouldn't matter. The purchaser and owner of all the weapons was his mother.

Re:it tells you one thing, at least (2, Informative)

erotic_pie (796522) | about a year ago | (#42317141)

He wasn't the one that purchased the weapons though, he stole them from his mother. All the laws and wait periods in the world wouldn't have stopped him from stealing them from a law abiding citizen.

Re:it tells you one thing, at least (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316811)

Look at the motive of the police; the more they know about his mind(they obviously aren't doing this to try to catch him or his accomplices) the more they are going to go after anyone else with the same symptoms (this can be a good and bad thing). Expect a lot to come from this about how wrong/dangerous it is to be an "off the grid" loner.

Re:it tells you one thing, at least (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316829)

That doesn't prove his mothers death wasn't premeditated.

Re:it tells you one thing, at least (1)

Talderas (1212466) | about a year ago | (#42317097)

Shooting her while she slept probably indicates that her death was also premeditated. It doesn't appear to be that she caught him taking her guns and he shot her in reaction.

No online footprint? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316731)

Really, I find this hard to believe. With all this talk of NSA wiretapping ...

Re:No online footprint? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316821)

Why so? I know half a dozen people with no online footprint worth speaking of. My brother is a computer programmer but only uses email to communicate intraoffice and doesn't ever visit any websites except Hulu once in a while and the occasional Google search. He's a dead-trees kind of guy so if he needs a code reference he looks it up old school. If someone who is working IN the computer industry can manage to leave no significant traces online, without even making a specific point of doing so, it's totally plausible that someone who doesn't need a computer for his vocation and/or who was trying to avoid leaving online footprints could avoid it.

LOGS LOGS LOGS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316739)

this is where they subpoena his home ISP for the last N ip addresses and then hit up murderbook for logs, right?

He was on Slashdot. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316757)

His behaviors match that of typical anonymous posters.

Now he's a hero (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316759)

Great. I was wondering what it would take for the Slashdot crowd to pervert this dipshit into a hero.

"Dude, check it out! He destroyed all his data before he did this! That way, them dirty screws in law enforcement won't ever know a thing about him, won't understand what happened, and won't have any way to prevent it from happening again! Yeah! That's so awesome! Power to the privacy! Privacy rights for all! Woo!"

Re:Now he's a hero (4, Insightful)

YodasEvilTwin (2014446) | about a year ago | (#42316921)

You're the only one saying that as far as I can see. Perhaps you're just afraid of saying it straight up without the false quotes....

You must be new here. (3, Insightful)

conspirator23 (207097) | about a year ago | (#42317099)

Great. I was wondering what it would take for the Slashdot crowd to pervert this dipshit into a hero.

"Dude, check it out! He destroyed all his data before he did this! That way, them dirty screws in law enforcement won't ever know a thing about him, won't understand what happened, and won't have any way to prevent it from happening again! Yeah! That's so awesome! Power to the privacy! Privacy rights for all! Woo!"

Attempting to smash up his PC and HDD and leaving the wreckage in his place is about the most n00bish form of data destruction you can imagine, and has probably only been partially successful at best. I'll leave it to the numerous other comments already posted to detail this sick kid's failure to cover his tracks adequately. If you're going to irresponsibly portray privacy and security advocates as paranoid deviants who cheer mass murder, you're going to need to try harder.

Re:Now he's a hero (3, Insightful)

lilfields (961485) | about a year ago | (#42317123)

Warrant-less wiretaps are a lot different than a murder investigation that has established evidence and a warrant.

MSNBC (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316777)

"Here's some breaking news I saw MSNBC this morning..."

People watch MSNBC? This is breaking! Well done, editors.

No online footprint? Bullshit. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316781)

Connecting an IP to a person is difficult to prove, however, connecting a person to an IP is much simpler.
They have probable cause, ISPs are required to hold logs, just get his logs from his ISP.

Re:No online footprint? Bullshit. (1)

cayenne8 (626475) | about a year ago | (#42316851)

They have probable cause, ISPs are required to hold logs, just get his logs from his ISP.

Where do you get this idea?

I know of no jurisdiction requiring ISPs in the US to hold and store customer logs???

Re:No online footprint? Bullshit. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316943)

They have probable cause, ISPs are required to hold logs, just get his logs from his ISP.

Where do you get this idea?

I know of no jurisdiction requiring ISPs in the US to hold and store customer logs???

True, but most of them do, anyhow. What they log is another question.

Whatever (1)

sunking2 (521698) | about a year ago | (#42316783)

The fact that he tried to physically destroy things means he isn't nearly as smart as they want us to believe. They'll get quite a bit of it back. And more than likely will be able to get a pretty good profile of him by sequestering logs from various services, be it ISP, Xbox Live, etc.

Re:Whatever (1)

cwebster (100824) | about a year ago | (#42316859)

Given his willingness to use a gun and the article states the disk platter was removed from the casing, its not a stretch to imagine he put a couple of bullets through that too. That will make data recovery a bit harder.

Re:Whatever (4, Informative)

The MAZZTer (911996) | about a year ago | (#42316887)

That's funny, everything I've heard says the ONLY WAY to be completely sure your data is wiped is to physically destroy the disk.

Of course it wouldn't hurt to do a software-based wipe first, and who says he didn't?

Re:Whatever (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316963)

I don't get why you'd say this?

I mean, yeah, DBAN would nuke data... but that takes HOURS when I can drill, shoot, or microwave a drive in minutes. Even an oven to degauss would be quicker.

Shattering a hard drive immediately takes it beyond all off-the-shelf forensics providers without leaving any doubts about the firmware, disk recovery sectors, MBR backups... It also takes it beyond the capabilities of most agencies that aren't commercial. You simply *can't* plug it into a purchased capture device at that point.

Yes, it's theoretically possible to recover it with cleanroom techniques at that point... but I'm pretty sure recovery is exactly...that... theory -- when you're pulling dust, debris, and shards of glass out of it... And even if it's not -- it's a massive time difference.

Are you trying to allude to the cloud data that should exist? I think half the point of the physical destruction was to delay and wholly prevent discovering any cloud sources he may have used as long as possible.

They'll have to get his email address from friends and family now, look up the logs, check with the ISP for any traffic from that originating address... look for any traffic on a huge list of known providers from the same address ...filter that down.

Unless his ISP has incredible capture, it's going to be near impossible to find what website or forums he's visited in a timely manner... much less chat programs or other likely mediums like WoW/Ventrilo

Their best bet is probably actually checking the home router to see if it has logs or DNS cached...

Who wants us to believe what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316977)

he isn't nearly as smart as they want us to believe

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Who is "they," and what makes you think "they" want "us" to believe this maniac is/was smart?

I thought the general consensus is that he was batshit crazy, and the only question is whether or not there was something in particular that pushed him over the edge, or just random "voices in his head"-type stuff.

100 more will die today (5, Insightful)

ShanghaiBill (739463) | about a year ago | (#42316785)

Over a hundred people die from firearms every day in America. Roughly about 1/3 accidents, 1/3 suicides, and 1/3 deliberate homicides. Dwelling on massacres like Sandy Hook is not really a good idea for many reasons. Most gun homicides are committed with handguns, by people with long records of violent crime, and are done more often than not in heated emotion. But these school massacres fit none of those patterns. They are usually done with rifles, by people that are "odd" and loners but without any record of violent crime, and they are usually meticulously planned. In many ways these make them the hardest violent acts to prevent. We should focus on preventing more on the everyday killings, many of which should be preventable, instead of focusing too much on the black swans where any plausible effort is unlikely to make much difference.

We should try to learn from history: On January 17th, 1989 Patrick Purdy [wikipedia.org] walked into a school yard in Stockton, California, and opened fire on the children playing there, killing five and wounding 29. In the months that followed, legislation was rushed through to outlaw rifles similar in appearance to the one he used. Back in those days, it was common for gun owners to support "common sense" gun control. But they watched gun control advocates, who often claimed that they wanted to restrict handguns and not hunting guns such as rifles and shotguns, use this tragedy to push through bans on rifles and only rifles, and do so on the basis of appearance (shape of the grip, bayonet stud, etc.) rather than functionality. The result had a negligible effect on crime, but resulted in a significant decline in support for gun control in America. There was also a strong political backlash. Many pro-gun-control politicians lost elections, and the urban-rural split between the two major political parties became more pronounced. I really hope that we do something more sensible this time.

Re:100 more will die today (4, Insightful)

cayenne8 (626475) | about a year ago | (#42316915)

I really hope that we do something more sensible this time.

So, what are you going to do?

Unless you outright ban guns....or possibly legislate it so that only single shot weapons are legal, you're not going to change or do anything.

Only law abiding people follow the laws...criminals, by definition, aren't going to abide by them.

And banning guns tomorrow, totally...would not affect gun crime in the US for decades, there are just too many guns and ammo to be had out there. If you did this...again, only the law abiding would suffer at the hands of criminals which would still be fully and heavily armed.

I'm sorry, shit happens. Crazy people are out there, and will pop up from time to time, and kill lots of people.

Hell, wasn't there recently a killing spree at a grade school in German or somewhere else in Europe where the killing and damage done was with a knife?

Re:100 more will die today (3, Insightful)

hondo77 (324058) | about a year ago | (#42317003)

And banning guns tomorrow, totally...would not affect gun crime in the US for decades, there are just too many guns and ammo to be had out there.

It would be worth the wait.

Re:100 more will die today (0, Troll)

logjon (1411219) | about a year ago | (#42317085)

If Europe and Australia are any indication, violent crime actually goes up following crackdowns on private ownership. Gun crime goes up. Murder rates don't go down.. So following a gun ban, you and your family are no less likely to be murdered, but significantly more likely to be victims of violent crime and/or gun crime. No thanks.

Re:100 more will die today (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42317007)

Unless you outright magically cause all guns everywhere to vanish into thin air....or possibly legislate it so that only single shot weapons are legal, you're not going to change or do anything.

Fixed for accuracy, as banning a thing doesn't make it go away.

Re:100 more will die today (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42317021)

We should totally get rid of traffic laws, because criminals aren't going to abide by them.

Re:100 more will die today (1)

NevarMore (248971) | about a year ago | (#42316937)

I really hope that we do something more sensible this time.

What do you consider sensible? Banning guns outright? Banning different features of guns? Requiring more burdensome checks on law-abiding gun owners? Improving mental health care? Creating an avenue to report pre-crime?

I hear a lot of people saying that we gotta do something, but that completely fails to skip over our disagreements on what needs to be done if anything.

Re:100 more will die today (5, Insightful)

dingDaShan (818817) | about a year ago | (#42316939)

++++ This is the most sensible thing that I've heard on the situation. Let's mourn the victims, but not let this be a cause to further erode freedom.

Re:100 more will die today (-1, Troll)

hondo77 (324058) | about a year ago | (#42317015)

If the price of so-called "freedom" is 20 dead children, then either you do not know what freedom is or the price is too high and I no longer wish to be "free".

Re:100 more will die today (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42317131)

In exchange for 20 dead children, you can have this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_murder#Mass_murder_by_a_state

Re:100 more will die today (1)

jkrise (535370) | about a year ago | (#42316993)

Your lengthy post makes for very chilling reading... I ask because I do not know - how easy / difficult is it for an adult in the US to buy a gun / rifle / whatever that can be used to shoot people dead?

Re:100 more will die today (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42317093)

Have no felonies and over 18 years old?

Drive to WalMart and buy one... $300 would get you a 12gauge.. but, honestly it may be possible to get around that even.. a little effort and a ramset could probably be pretty deadly... or a bbgun... or a paintball gun... or you could make a pretty nice spear with a tiny amount of work..

Re:100 more will die today (3, Informative)

medcalf (68293) | about a year ago | (#42317135)

Well, since any firearm can be used to shoot people dead, let's just talk about how easy it is to buy any firearm. For most firearms for most people in most places, fairly easy. For any firearms for any person with a criminal background or mental illness (to a much lesser extent, as this is usually not reported), pretty difficult to get one legally, but no more difficult to get one illegally than anywhere else. For certain types of firearms (automatic weapons, for example, or crew served weapons), it ranges from very difficult to impossible (legally) for anyone. For certain places, such as Chicago, NYC or Washington DC, it's pretty hard for anyone to get any weapon. Of course, those are also the places with the highest gun violence rates. Odd, that.

Re:100 more will die today (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42317053)

On January 17th, 1989 Patrick Purdy [wikipedia.org] walked into a school yard in Stockton, California, and opened fire on the children playing there, killing five and wounding 29. In the months that followed, legislation was rushed through to outlaw rifles similar in appearance to the one he used.

Both Patrick Purdy and Lanza had pistols that they used as well as their rifle. Semi-automatic assault rifles should be banned. Bolt action rifles are completely acceptable.

Diminishing returns (3, Insightful)

ZombieBraintrust (1685608) | about a year ago | (#42317061)

We focus plenty of resources on those everyday homicides. Those homicides are the reason we have security gaurds with guns at the entrances to Banks and not elementry schools. Spending more resources on that problem won't neccesarily change anything. At some point your just harrasing innocent people who fit profiles. It should also be noted that violent crime of that sort has been on a decline. Plus the 1/3 deliberate homicides include plenty of people involved in crimes. If your not sucidal, don't own a gun, and not involved in crime your not at much risk. At some level society doesn't care abuot those deaths.

Re:100 more will die today (0)

logjon (1411219) | about a year ago | (#42317063)

Roughly about 1/3 accidents, 1/3 suicides, and 1/3 deliberate homicides. Dwelling on massacres like Sandy Hook is not really a good idea for many reasons.

That's what I've been saying the whole time. It's simply not statistically significant.

Re:100 more will die today (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42317095)

Handguns are made for killing people; rapid fire rifles, the same (even if they aren't automatic).

Hunting rifles are made for hunting.

Ban anything with more than 3 rounds in the clip.

Ban anything shorter than the length of a standard rifle.

Let hunters do their thing - they need them for food, and for honest-to-goodness protection against wild animals.

And then, start giving permits for more deadly guns to people who can demonstrate they actually need them.

That's my position.

Re:100 more will die today (2, Insightful)

fermion (181285) | about a year ago | (#42317119)

To some extent I agree. For instance we waste a huge amount of time and money with USDA and the FSIS inspection and certification of meat. We don't really need it. Yes a few people will get sick and die but all this legislation has been hastily passed over the years in reaction to the fact that a few people can't make responsible choices. I mean if someone gets sick over meat, won't that mean that firm will go out of business and the situation will correct itself. otherwise it is just a matte of safety education. Educate users how to inspect and use the meat they need. Allow local producers to build reputations with consumers.

In broader terms, gun regulation may not in fact be the best reaction. And it is true that real security does not focus on eliminating all risks, but rather minimizing the risks and victims. Which is what i think is at issue here. The security failed catastrophically and a large number of children died. So as rational security people we can ask why.

One thing that is clear is that there are things we can't defend against economically. For instance, I can imagine it would be cool to own a mortar launcher or a tank or a missile. Clearly this is not something that is generally allowed because, like a large capacity clip or a high powered rifle, the only practical purpose of this is to kill large number of people. Under the second amendment I should be free to own any of these, but practicality, i.e, we don't want to have to defend an office building against a tank, mean they are not readily available.

What bothers me is that we have people, like this guys mother, who apparently had all these things that are only honestly useful more mass murder, who may have thought she had to defend herself against some unspecific threat, and this is considered normal. I remain safe with minimal armament, I am not seriously ready to defend myself against a zombie attack, and if the worlds end i think I will be busy with other things than killing my neighbors. Hopefully we will be developing a plan to survive. And if the government comes in with tanks and drones, I don't think I have the ability to actually acquire anything to defend myself, at least not off the shelf.

So yes the gun control freaks do hav the upper hand at the moment. That is because so many crazy people seem to believe they need to have the tools of war to survive in a place where the most difficult daily decision is where to park your SUV.

Re:100 more will die today (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42317125)

Roughly about 1/3 accidents, 1/3 suicides, and 1/3 deliberate homicides

Citation needed.

I'll go ahead and say it (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316789)

This should be a reminder to all of us to be that friend he probably didn't have. I'd have killed myself in college if it weren't for a few online friends. Skearrit and Zenobia, that's you. It's WoW now instead of MUDs, but people are the same.

Drudge linked to something over the weekend (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316791)

The story said they were trying to piece together a smashed hard drive.

Or... maybe he was just fucking crazy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316801)

I'm saddened that slashdot is joining in on the hoopla.

They can still recover data (0, Troll)

jdastrup (1075795) | about a year ago | (#42316833)

They can still put the hard drive back together and pull out information. Facebook has everything on him. Google tracked what he searched and what websites he visited. The fingerprints on his keyboard and they way the letters are worn will show which keys he used most and they can determine his passwords to his accounts. The NSA and DHS has been tracking him, and everyone else in the country, and knows his exact whereabouts for the last several years. Yes, I've seen CSI.

Re:They can still recover data (4, Funny)

NevarMore (248971) | about a year ago | (#42316959)

The fingerprints on his keyboard and they way the letters are worn will show which keys he used most

CSI: NCIS New Miami York has determined that he used R S T L N E keys more than others, this has determined that he was likely an English speaker and had a real hard on for Vanna White. This attack may have been a plea for help after his failed attempt to get on Wheel of Fortune.

Descrephancies between TV and websites (1)

gravis777 (123605) | about a year ago | (#42316847)

Yeah, FoxNews has talked about it a bit today as well, but I could find nothing on their website about it. But my experience has been what is on the Fox News website rarely reflects what they cover on the news network. If it wasn't for the fact that I had to have Fox News on all day at work, I would never watch it. Actually, I wouldn't watch any of the American press - there doesn't seem to be an American News Network that reports unbiassed news. CNN Headline news probably comes the closest

Or... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316853)

You could just ask 4chan. I recall seeing a (possibly fake) screencap that implied that someone was going to do something at 9am at a local school on some day.

This was after the fact, of course.
Posting AC for cowardice in the face of fibbers.

Random guess: Protecting 4Chan. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316865)

Where else would a disturbed young man go to find a peer group willing to encourage depraved behavior?

Lookin at you /b/.

Olde News - It Was Reported On Day One (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316879)

It was reported on NBC and CNN, that I saw, on the day of the event. It was also further reported that the FBI was going to try to recover data form the hard drive.

Since he was already described as having Autism(Aspergers) and a recluse(by his own mother) it is probable that he doesn't have a social networking history.

Will we demand investigations of those without easily accessible "online footprints", deemed suspicious, as they are now calling for more gun control laws and bans?

Really? Is That All it Takes? (0, Troll)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year ago | (#42316893)

So, if I thermite my HDD, everything I've ever done or said online (i.e., stored anywhere but my local drive) magically falls into the bit bucket?

Bullshit.

Cops need to get off their lazy asses and start serving the three-letter-agencies (NSA, CIA, DHS, all the other panoptic asshats) with warrants.

Why post his name? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316903)

Why give credit? That's why those people do those things - to be remembered as not nobody.

Be aware of your responsibility as a news outlet. Let them be a nobody forever.

@AdamLanza (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316913)

Meanwhile @AdamLanza is getting VERY annoyed.

asbergers (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316917)

Media has been reporting that he has asbergers as if it why he went on this shooting. I've lived with a 10 yr old boy who has asbergers for 6+ months now and i can tell you that he has absolutely NO ability to think ahead like this. He has no forethought at all. If this is correct and the shooter did destroy all of electronic info, that seems very unlike the asberger's i've seen the past 6 months day in and day out.

100% Encrypted his drives with a Hammer (1, Informative)

mabhatter654 (561290) | about a year ago | (#42316927)

Yup... Encrypting your drives with a hammer generally keeps away all bit the most dedicated spooks.

Sad thing is that the kid probably didn't have many friends. And they were probably Bronies... Can't let THAT get out! Maybe he was after elementry kids because their parents were getting the show in trouble.

He probably made random rants, but I don't think they'll find much. Other than a bunch of AC guy posts 90% of people would write off as childish. As this goes deeper, I think he's just an extremely lonely kid, extremely disconnected from society. The top end of the ASD spectrum kids KNOW they don't fit in... And they get REALLY mad about it... But they still cannot do it without extensive help, if ever. Something triggered the kid and he took the most extreme route he could... That screams ASD with no training to deal with it. He just picked something extremely violent and went for it. Maybe he fixated on it, but typically not really.

The only person with warning signs would have been his mom.. He didn't interact with anybody else?? . And she obviously overlooked the violence escalating till it was too late. I'll bet if they look we over she has old bruises from outbursts... But she never told.

My idea for preventing this from happening again.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316957)

You can't get rid of guns or crazy people, there are too many out there. And, if they want to do something like this, all you can do is prevention. I personally recommend building gated doors that automatically drop down when a gunshot is detected by omni-mics placed throughout schools. The doors can be opened with a card/code by law enforcement afterwards on an individual basis. This means SWAT could go in and clear each room. It also means that a shooter gets confined to a single area where he will do less harm. This also needs to be combined smaller classrooms with fewer students in each class, spread out over many classes. Then the hope would be, that he might only take out a teacher and a handful of students instead of 30 people before being apprehended. This is probably a better solution for now than anything congress will be able to come up with. Just my two cents.

Incoming! New legislation... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42316967)

"If you do not leave an online footprint, you are a terrorist."
"To be on the internet, you must digitally sign yourself with your ISP."
 
Now... I'm not saying false flag or any of that BS, but would you put it past the US government to take this as a sort of 9-11 attack, and use it as ammo to go after the lock down of the intertubes? I'm not into conspiracy theories - just into leaving my mind open to possibilities... granted - ones that we would have never thought would exist, but who would have thought the patriot act would have come into being either?

No data trail? (-1, Troll)

3seas (184403) | about a year ago | (#42316983)

What better way to hide a psych-ops event but to distroy all the places evidence might be found.
Just saying...

Also what's this I've been reading about libdor scandle and the fathers of the batman theater event and this one, having testomony position in the LIBDOR case?
any truth to that?

Tor and Pseudo-Profiles? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42317019)

What if he had used Tor to browse websites and created many pseudo-profiles for e-mail, FB etc? He had all the time in this world to do that.. being home-schooled and all.

Why Physical Destruction Works (5, Informative)

Jaborandy (96182) | about a year ago | (#42317127)

When I want to physically destroy my hard drives, I use bullets. Here's why it works:

The surface of the platters is covered in magnetic data, but in order to read it you have to be able to pass a head over it. If you bend the platters, put a few jagged holes in them, and destroy the bearing center, there is no technology that can run a read head reliably over a data track. If the platters are bent, you can't install them in a new drive or mount new heads. You also can't flatten them to the original tolerances without destroying the magnetic surface coating.

The biggest hand-waving magic people fear is the electon microscope techinques which have been shown to dig up even erased data by looking at the edges of the latest written data to see what was there before. While this is technically possible in ideal conditions, it requires that you can move the platter under the tip of the microscope with incredible precision. Without the platters in perfect physical shape, you'd risk destroying the electron microscope's fragile tip.

Pistol rounds generally dent the platters pretty seriously. Rifle rounds generally punch through leaving jagged holes. A combination of both is a fun day at the range, makes great desk art, and securely pretects your drives from ever being decoded again.

--Jaborandy
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