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SSD Prices Continue 3-Year Plunge

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the not-just-for-young-whippersnappers-anymore dept.

Data Storage 347

Lucas123 writes "After dropping 20% in the second quarter of 2012 alone, SSD prices fell another 10% in the second half of the year. The better deals for SSDs are now around 80- to 90-cents-per-gigabyte of capacity, though some sale prices have been even lower, according IHS and other research firms. For some models, the prices have dropped 300% over the past three years. At the same time, hard disk drive prices have remained "inflated" — about 47% higher than they were prior to the 2011 Thai floods, according to DRAMeXchange."

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Can't wait (0)

earlzdotnet (2788729) | about 2 years ago | (#42326109)

I can't wait until we finally get at that intersection point of SSD and HDD pricing. Why? Because when that happens the harddrive manufacturers hopefully will either die and reduce down to niche markets, or they will finally wake up and realize they can't keep their prices artificially inflated. I've never had an SSD, and had a very bad experience with a first gen one. However, I need to build another computer in the near future and I've been thinking long and hard about SSD versus HDD. Still undecided, but with trends like this, I'll be opting for SSD

Re:Can't wait (2)

Celeritas 5k (1587217) | about 2 years ago | (#42326125)

"Artificially" inflated?

Re:Can't wait (3, Interesting)

jbolden (176878) | about 2 years ago | (#42326445)

Yes. Margins are much higher. Essentially what happened:

a) A situation of oversupply in the HDD market leading to thin and sometimes negative margins.
b) Huge drop in supply due to natural disaster
c) drop in supply causes sharp increase in price which leads remaining suppliers to experience high margins
d) as supply comes back on board margins remain high because there isn't oversupply

Re:Can't wait (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326771)

And hence not artificially inflated.

You'll be waiting a long time (5, Insightful)

DidgetMaster (2739009) | about 2 years ago | (#42326245)

At $.90 per GB, SSDs are still about 15 times more expensive than the same amount of hard disk space. Forget about trying to put your 2 TB of data on SSDs. I like the trend of reduced prices for SSDs. They are finally affordable enough to put my most active data on (e.g. boot files, applications), but if you think they will be a viable complete substitute for hard drives anytime soon, think again.

Re:You'll be waiting a long time (3, Interesting)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 2 years ago | (#42326483)

At $.90 per GB, SSDs are still about 15 times more expensive than the same amount of hard disk space. Forget about trying to put your 2 TB of data on SSDs. I like the trend of reduced prices for SSDs. They are finally affordable enough to put my most active data on (e.g. boot files, applications), but if you think they will be a viable complete substitute for hard drives anytime soon, think again.

SSDs are an excellent example of Moore's Law in action - because doubling the transistors at a basic level doubles the storage.

Thing is, everything else doesn't have to follow Moore's Law - spinning rust has been growing faster than Moore's Law for a little while now. And in some formfactors, spinning rust has made an exit because it's not possible to cram all that mechanical stuff in there (see the 1.8" formfactor - exclusively SSD these days because the largest spinning rust is 160GB - while you can get 256GB SSDs for cheaper!).

But where space isn't a problem (2.5" and 3.5" drives), the SSD will always be more expensive unless someone comes up with a way of storing data more densely with the same access times.

However, SSDs are big and cheap enough to be the only hard drive in many computers these days. And given the pervasiveness of networking, having a few TB of spinning rust attached and accessible via one's "personal in-home cloud" will serve to handle most people's bulk storage needs.

Of course, there will be industries where the files are so large and sequentially accessed that an SSD benefits are basically nil - like movie editing, where they can stream through TB of data, sequentially accessed.

After all, SSDs excel at random I/O, but spinning rust excels at sequential continuous access - if all you're doing is accessing data in megabyte or larger chunks, the slowness of moving the head around is hidden by the sheer speed of pulling the data off the media.

Re:You'll be waiting a long time (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326691)

Using the phrase "spinning rust" the first time was clever.

Using it the next four times was just pretentious and annoying. Just use the term "HDD" like everyone else if you want to refer to them more than once.

Re:You'll be waiting a long time (1)

holiggan (522846) | about 2 years ago | (#42326485)

Agree! Currently I'm using a Corsair F120 for my SO and main games and apps. The rest of my stuff goes to normal, run of the mill HDD. This SSD was probably the most effective upgrade I've ever done, both in terms of value for money (payed around 120 € more than a year ago) as well as pure performance. I think that having a main SSD drive (a 120 GB one will be enough for having the SO + some stuff), along with one or more additional standard HDD should be next "unofficial" mandatory config any new computer nowadays.

Re:You'll be waiting a long time (2)

poetmatt (793785) | about 2 years ago | (#42326549)

I'm sure your significant other would approve. (OS instead of SO, haha)

Meanwhile, I do wish SSD's were a little cheaper, but I'm happy at the direction they are going, same as you and the OP. I've been holding off this entire time, but not for much longer at there rate the prices are dropping.

Re:You'll be waiting a long time (1)

holiggan (522846) | about 2 years ago | (#42326849)

ahahah nice! :D damn me and my awesome bilingual capabilities! xD

Anyways, yeah, you will definitely be amazed at the difference an SSD will make :)

Re:You'll be waiting a long time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326533)

It sounds like hard drives are now becoming more like 2.5 tier storage, for multimedia files, web downloads and cache, logs, online backups. All the important stuff in an average person's desktop or notebook could fit onto a 100 GB SSD.

Re:You'll be waiting a long time (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326765)

My steamapps folder is well over 500 GB.

Right now I'm using an NTFS junction point, so the Steam client can live on the SSD and at least it will start up quickly, even if the actual games take a while to load.

Re:You'll be waiting a long time (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326649)

You're obviously a copyright thefting pirate if you need more than 256 GB storage on an SSD.

Re:You'll be waiting a long time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326705)

At $.90 per GB, SSDs are still about 15 times more expensive than the same amount of hard disk space. Forget about trying to put your 2 TB of data on SSDs. I like the trend of reduced prices for SSDs. They are finally affordable enough to put my most active data on (e.g. boot files, applications), but if you think they will be a viable complete substitute for hard drives anytime soon, think again.

They have replaced spinning platters in portable computers completely and I while I often use spinning platters disks as a bulk storage option for stationary computers I wouldn't even consider building one without an SSD.
If I'm on a budget I would consider scaling down CPU and memory before throwing out the SSD, you get a pretty nice performance boost for the money you put in.

Re:Can't wait (4, Funny)

codewarren (927270) | about 2 years ago | (#42326311)

I've never had an SSD, and had a very bad experience with a first gen one

So what was the bad experience you had with a first gen SSD besides not having one?

Re:Can't wait (3, Informative)

neminem (561346) | about 2 years ago | (#42326495)

I've had bad experiences with busses before, but I've never owned a bus.

Re:Can't wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326317)

I have a OCZ Vertex 4 ssd for Ubuntu and a harddrive for my home partition. If the OS partition dies, you can just return it to ocz and re-install it. It has warranty longer than I plan to use the computer.

Re:Can't wait (3, Informative)

necro81 (917438) | about 2 years ago | (#42326419)

If you are looking to build a system (I will assume a desktop), then don't worry about waiting for cost parity. There is really no reason to put most of your files on an SSD, unless you are building a server that requires lots of random I/O requests. Instead, go both ways: purchase a modestly-sized SSD for the OS and Apps (64 GB), and a conventional spinning disc for bulk storage (photos, video, etc., 500 - 4000 GB). Sized appropriately, you can configure a system that gives you the speed where you want it and capacity where you want it for a decent price.

Re:Can't wait (1)

somersault (912633) | about 2 years ago | (#42326503)

Yup. I thought that was a pretty well known and/or obvious thing to do.

Though my SSD is only 64GB, so I had to put my Steam install on my hard drive. I currently have something like 400GB of games installed on there. It sounds like it's about time I looked at a dedicated games SSD though :)

Re:Can't wait (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 2 years ago | (#42326659)

We have some small branch offices (2-3 employees each), and when I built the custom routers, I bought fanless Mini-ITX boards and 64gb SSDs and slapped a minimal Debian install, enough for routing, firewall and VPN. The main reason is a minimum of moving parts.

Re:Can't wait (1)

Bearhouse (1034238) | about 2 years ago | (#42326825)

Cool - but you needed 64GB to do this in Debian?

(Not trolling - I'm an old BSD fart so just curious...)

Re:Can't wait (2)

mlts (1038732) | about 2 years ago | (#42326695)

One thing I'd recommend is going with a RAID 1 setup for the HDDs. Drive failure is still a constant issue, and there is a big difference between seeing a dialog that pops up and going "crap, time to replace a drive", compared to hoping you have a recent backup... somewhere. Even if documents are saved on Dropbox or backed up via Mozy, it still is a PITA to reload/activate the OS, reload/activate apps, etc.

For SSDs, I have not seen any concrete proof that they are any more reliable than HDDs, so I'd have a second controller and have those mirrored or RAID-ed as well, so their I/O performance isn't linked to the I/O of the slower HDDs.

Re:Can't wait (1)

geminidomino (614729) | about 2 years ago | (#42326707)

As someone who finally picked up an SSD on Black Friday, I have to ask: does Windows 7 work any better than XP about having apps installed on other drives rather than in Program Files/User folders?

I remember trying a similar setup once for XP, back in the mists of the past, and it was not a happy fun time.

mSATA SSDs (1)

Gliese 581 (2793615) | about 2 years ago | (#42326435)

Some HDD sizes are now cheaper than before the Flood. The 3TB 3.5" models should definitely be cheaper, simply because the technology has matured with the move from four platters to three 1TB platters. Increased areal density has also pushed down the cost of 1TB 2.5" (laptop) drives.

I'll wait for 500GB SSDs to go down to the prices of today's 120GB SSDs before making the plunge. I have a 750GB 2.5" HDD installed on my SFF desktop, with about 300GB of data that can be moved to an external drive.

I'm also looking at installing mSATA SSDs, which cost about the same as full-size SSDs. With the graphics now built into the CPU and mSATA, I'd have almost the entire system on the motherboard, making it easier to just unplug the PSU when changing desktop cases.

Re:mSATA SSDs (5, Funny)

Digital Vomit (891734) | about 2 years ago | (#42326761)

Some HDD sizes are now cheaper than before the Flood.

Too bad Moses spent so much time trying to save squirrels and zebras that he couldn't be bothered to save some of that tech.

Re:mSATA SSDs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326875)

Noah.

Re:Can't wait (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about 2 years ago | (#42326493)

Hard drives are getting gradually cheaper per-gig too. Even if SSDs became really cheap, hard drives still would have a storage-per-cm3 advantage that would give them some advantage in bulk storage - one rack enclosure full of hard drives could store as many bits as a whole rach full of SSDs, with associated reduction in power, controllers, cabling and management costs.

Re:Can't wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326737)

Have you seen how much air is in an 2.5" SSD? It is basically just one pcb with very flat chips. If you would fill the space of a 3.5" HDD with pcbs and flash chips you would reach more than 4TB.

Re:Can't wait (2)

mlts (1038732) | about 2 years ago | (#42326545)

I would not mind seeing SSDs and HDDs merge, with a smart "SAN in a can" drive controller. This drive controller would do autotiering. If a region of blocks is used often, it gets moved to the SSD. If more areas get used more frequently, that set of blocks goes to the spinning platters. This way, over time (assuming consistent usage), there is a good balance between SSD speed and the capacity of traditional HDD.

Re:Can't wait (1)

Joce640k (829181) | about 2 years ago | (#42326785)

I need to build another computer in the near future and I've been thinking long and hard about SSD versus HDD. Still undecided, but with trends like this, I'll be opting for SSD

That "future" better not be too near.

I'm not holding my breath for a 3TB SSD in the $100 range...

BULLSHIT (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326111)

NCIX just had 3TB barracuda's on for $109 while my memory is not photographic, I'm pretty dam positive that is cheaper than a year ago. but it's most certainly not 50% higher for dam sure.

Re:BULLSHIT (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326255)

2TB drives used to be 69 and below, they are currently sitting between 90 and 100.

70* 1.47 = $102

47% higher seems about right.

UK HDs seem to be down to 2011 prices (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326131)

I've just bought a 2TB USB 3.0 external drive for £64.99 with free delivery, I think that's as low as it has ever been. Can I name the seller? The biggest online seller of computer goods in the U.K. (I think).

Re:UK HDs seem to be down to 2011 prices (2)

gparent (1242548) | about 2 years ago | (#42326173)

No, you can't name the seller. Slashdot is a tyranny.

Re:UK HDs seem to be down to 2011 prices (3, Funny)

1_brown_mouse (160511) | about 2 years ago | (#42326441)

I read that as "tranny" and it was much funnier.

Re:UK HDs seem to be down to 2011 prices (2)

gparent (1242548) | about 2 years ago | (#42326569)

LOL. Works both ways, I suppose.

Re:UK HDs seem to be down to 2011 prices (4, Funny)

telchine (719345) | about 2 years ago | (#42326665)

LOL. Works both ways, I suppose.

That's what (s)he said!

WTF?!?!?! (0)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 years ago | (#42326157)

What the fuck planet are they shopping on? Fell 10% my ass! Ever since black friday, I can't even find a reasonably priced drive anywhere. I got two Vertex 4 128GB drives for $80 ea and that's the third time they've been on sale for that price. Now they're $139! That's a $59 increase! The cheapest I saw in the last 2 weeks was a $90 crucial M4 120GB old model and those aren't even that great. Before the holidays, I could throw a mouse blindly and hit a website with a $65 60GB SSD from a respectable manufacturer and now even those are all above $70. Coincidentally, spinning drives have fallen like they're going off a cliff so the article is actually twice as wrong. 320GB intellipower and 1TB Seagate 524AS models have been $50-60! That's slightly below what I paid for mine 2 years ago when I built my computer and during the flooding, they hit $180. I hate when some idiot posts precisely the opposite of reality on slashdot and calls it a story.

Re:WTF?!?!?! (3, Interesting)

Hadlock (143607) | about 2 years ago | (#42326191)

OCZ Vertex drives have had a consistently 5% return rate (that's 1 in 20) since May 2012 now. I would stay the hell away from the Vertexes in particular, as they're closer to 7%, the company as a whole is closer to 5%. Granted, that's return rate, not confirmed failure, but a return rate that's been consistently ten times higher than the rest of their competition should give you pause when buying cheap hardware. Compare to 0.5% for manufacturers like Intel and Samsung.

Re:WTF?!?!?! (1)

Admiral Llama (2826) | about 2 years ago | (#42326293)

Or to put it another way, name a PC manufacturer who uses OCZ drives. Go ahead and try. Yep, didn't think so. Above and beyond performance, reliability is the primary concern for a drive, and OCZs aren't there. Samsungs and Toshibas are.

Re:WTF?!?!?! (5, Informative)

Hadlock (143607) | about 2 years ago | (#42326327)

Here are the hard numbers for anyone who's curious:

http://www.behardware.com/articles/881-7/components-returns-rates-7.html [behardware.com]

- Intel 0.45% (against 1.73%)

- Samsung 0.48% (N/A)

- Corsair 1.05% (against 2.93%)

- Crucial 1.11% (against 0.82%)

- OCZ 5.02% (against 7.03%)

Return rates specifically for OCZ models:

- 40.00% for the OCZ Petrol 64 GB

- 39.42% for the OCZ Petrol 128 GB

- 30.85% for the OCZ Octane 128 GB SATA II

- 29.46% for the OCZ Octane 64 GB SATA II

- 9.73% for the OCZ Vertex 2 120 GB 3.5"

- 9.59% for the OCZ Vertex 2 120 GB

- 6.73% for the OCZ Vertex 2 60 GB

- 5.43% for the OCZ Agility 3 240 GB

- 5.12% for the OCZ Vertex Plus 128 GB

Also if you have a Crucial M4 make sure you have the correct firmware [anandtech.com] as Crucial keeps releasing/shipping units with buggy firmware updates that can brick your drive.

Re:WTF?!?!?! (0)

Synerg1y (2169962) | about 2 years ago | (#42326393)

We've been over this at some point... OCZ has a greater volume of sales generating higher return rates, it's a rule of QC. Crucial (#1 lowest returns) has relatively minor sales in comparison so not as many are shipping out that can fail.

Re:WTF?!?!?! (4, Insightful)

Hadlock (143607) | about 2 years ago | (#42326449)

I'm not sure you understand how percentages work.

Re:WTF?!?!?! (-1, Troll)

Synerg1y (2169962) | about 2 years ago | (#42326657)

More than you do of how quality control works lol. Statistics too for that matter.

Re:WTF?!?!?! (3, Informative)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#42326607)

We've been over this at some point... OCZ has a greater volume of sales generating higher return rates, it's a rule of QC. Crucial (#1 lowest returns) has relatively minor sales in comparison so not as many are shipping out that can fail.

What? Higher sales generates higher returns in absolute quantity, not in terms of return rates. Return rates are a percentage, and are independent of the quantity shipped (although a larger shipped quantity means the rates will more accurately reflect actual failure percentages).

Here's another WTF (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326199)

The summary says that the prices on some models has dropped 300%. That's impossible, since the price cannot drop below zero, unless of course THEY are paying YOU to take the drive (as in soviet russia).

Re:Here's another WTF (1)

omnichad (1198475) | about 2 years ago | (#42326345)

Yes, this is one phrase that people use that might mean something to a particular group of people, but sounds absolutely stupid to anyone else. I do not subscribe to that form of English.

Re:Here's another WTF (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326527)

Aha, just like people who say that their house "needs cleaned" instead of "needs cleaning" or "needs to be cleaned"? (Yes, they actually have the choice between two valid perfectly forms of English and STILL manage to butcher it to hell.

Re:Here's another WTF (2)

Sun (104778) | about 2 years ago | (#42326601)

Yes, this is one phrase that people use that might mean something to a particular group of people, but sounds absolutely stupid to anyone else. I do not subscribe to that form of English.

Forget subscribing. If you understand what it means, do share.

I was under the impression that the fact that I'm not a native English speaker was irrelevant to how I understand basic algebra. Guess I was wrong...

So, if a drive was priced at $100, and its price dropped by 300%, how much would it go for now (assuming -$200 isn't the right answer)?

Shachar

Re:Here's another WTF (4, Funny)

omnichad (1198475) | about 2 years ago | (#42326805)

Assuming it's proper English to someone, I'd assume the logic goes like this.

The price was $12, now it's $3. The price dropped by 300%. That is, 300% of the final price has been subtracted from the first price. It's complete nonsense, and completely backwards really.

Re:Here's another WTF (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326551)

Okay, let's do some math here.

If the price/GB was $3.00 and is now $1.00, how much has it dropped? Take your time with it.

Re:Here's another WTF (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326683)

approximately 66%

Re:Here's another WTF (2)

PIBM (588930) | about 2 years ago | (#42326721)

The price dropped by 2/3, exactly, or approximately 66.667%. You are now paying 1/3 of the previous price, or approximately 33.333%.

What was your point, again ?

Re:Here's another WTF (1)

geminidomino (614729) | about 2 years ago | (#42326783)

66.666...%

Re:WTF?!?!?! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326259)

Prices fell because old product was trying to be cleared. Then prices rose back up because the new product uses new smaller litho flash. The belief is that old SSD at larger lithography are able to handle more writes + unknown quirks about new products.

I agree, with parent poster, was tempted by pre-black friday sales but pulled trigger too late. Ended up spending more money than I wanted to, but I got more capacity.

Re:WTF?!?!?! (1)

Synerg1y (2169962) | about 2 years ago | (#42326371)

Haha, I feel your pain, I've been slowly crawling around for a deal to replace my smaller ssd with a larger one as I'm completely out of space on that OS / apps drive. I saw some good deals on woot for refurbs , but the one (240gb corsair $125) I would've wanted most sold out before I could get it :(

Having said that, we're probably stuck till January, this time of year isn't known for it's bargains post-black friday. Also, stores get pretty unpleasant around this time of year, unless long lines and cramped isles are preferred.

P.S. the series matters more than the brand with ssds, normally you typically get what you pay for, but searching for a deal, you should keep this fact in mind. A 400mb read performs a lot worse than a 500mb read if only cause of the underlying components involved (IOPS, NAND)

Re:WTF?!?!?! (1)

codewarren (927270) | about 2 years ago | (#42326379)

What the fuck planet are they shopping on? Fell 10% my ass!

I had assumed this was posted from an alternative universe where "fall by 300%" makes sense.

Re:WTF?!?!?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326563)

What the fuck planet are they shopping on? Fell 10% my ass!

I had assumed this was posted from an alternative universe where "fall by 300%" makes sense.

It does make sense: If you had to pay $100 to buy an item, and then its price falls by 300%, you'll now get paid $200 for taking that item.

I for one would love to buy in a shop which dropped prices by 300%. Actually, I'd even be satisfied with a 200% price drop. :-)

Re:WTF?!?!?! (1)

bedroll (806612) | about 2 years ago | (#42326437)

Oddly, I read this and thought the exact opposite. Most of the deals I've seen on Slickdeals since Black Friday have been in the 50- to 80-cents-per-gigabyte range. The latest deal, posted just yesterday, had an Intel 180GB SSD for $100 after rebate. That's 55-cents-per-gigabyte. That's only one deal site, so I'm sure there's other deals that I've missed.

The store doesn't matter so much as the price. Where you shop has become less important than how you shop. If you're only focusing on a few retailers, and not leveraging the Internet to comparison shop and crowdsource deal opportunities, then I'm sure SSD prices are still quite high.

Re:WTF?!?!?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326677)

What the fuck planet are they shopping on? Fell 10% my ass! Ever since black friday, I can't even find a reasonably priced drive anywhere. I got two Vertex 4 128GB drives for $80 ea and that's the third time they've been on sale for that price. Now they're $139! That's a $59 increase! The cheapest I saw in the last 2 weeks was a $90 crucial M4 120GB old model and those aren't even that great.

Then you haven't been paying attention very well. Just yesterday the Intel 330 series 180GB was on sale for $100 after rebate. Might want to keep an eye on slickdeals.

Oh, and you know the "second half of the year" started in July, not after black friday, right? I would have loved to see you find this drive for only $110 back in July. Maybe $210.

Coincidentally, spinning drives have fallen like they're going off a cliff so the article is actually twice as wrong. 320GB intellipower and 1TB Seagate 524AS models have been $50-60! That's slightly below what I paid for mine 2 years ago when I built my computer and during the flooding, they hit $180. I hate when some idiot posts precisely the opposite of reality on slashdot and calls it a story.

LOL. before the flood, that $60 would have bought you a 1.5 or 2 TB drive. As for your 320GB, who cares? Not too many people are buying 320GB drives (unless it's a new PC equipped with only that). Most people are looking at 1-3TB drives. I'm not sure about the 1TB (I'm years past caring about anything that small), but the 2-3TB drives have definitely gone up in price. Before the flood, you could find almost any 3TB hard drive you wanted going on sale for under $120. Now the only thing I've found occasionally going on sale for that price are the Seagate drives that I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy's data.

Normal Hard disk lives more than expected (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326163)

I think that Hard disks will live longer more than expected, specially in desktop and laptop computers. According to Internet hard disk live about 5 years, but personal computers hard disk can work more than 7 years I guess.

Re:Normal Hard disk lives more than expected (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326779)

I read this 3 times and I'm still not sure what it means.

Hard Disk prices no longer inflated (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326183)

This report is for the whole 12 months, but recently, prices are now within 10-20% of the pre-flood levels.

Cheapest UK price for a 2TB disk in mid 2010 was £49.99. Can pick one up now for £59.99 (Aria UK has deals)

3TB drives I've seen for about 90 quid. These were far more expensive before flooding.

SSD prices seem to have stabilised though. 256GB is about £150, 128GB is about £79. Been that way for a while.

Hard drive prices remind me. . . (3, Interesting)

smooth wombat (796938) | about 2 years ago | (#42326203)

of the extra fee or increase in prices that companies such as FedEx imposed when gas prices were around $4. They claimed it was in response to the increase in fuel prices.

Now that prices have fallen by 50-70 cents, I don't see those fees being revoked.

Same thing with hard drive prices. Initially, with limited supply, a price increase was justified. Now that production is back to normal, I don't see the prices coming down.

Re:Hard drive prices remind me. . . (1)

ArsonSmith (13997) | about 2 years ago | (#42326591)

I'm guessing you just haven't looked? before floods I bought 3TB for $130, right after flood 3TB was $200, now 3TB $120.

300% drop? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326205)

What the hell does a 300% price drop even look like?

Re:300% drop? (4, Funny)

NixieBunny (859050) | about 2 years ago | (#42326285)

There's a large, smoking hole in the ground where the price fell through the Earth's crust.

wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326209)

A 300% price drop? That's amazing!

Can't wait to get my drive and check for twice its cost in the mail!

still 9 times more expensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326257)

from the article: 'Despite hard drive prices remaining high coupled with the continual decline of SSD prices, the per-GB price of the largest capacity SSDs (300-600GB) are currently 9 times more expensive than 500GB notebook hard-disk-drives from the Idealo study.'

Re:still 9 times more expensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326637)

The prices are expensive? So you have to pay to just get the price of the disk?
I wonder what the price of the price is ...

Is this really a surprise? (1)

JustAnotherIdiot (1980292) | about 2 years ago | (#42326291)

Look, I know there's some exceptions, but for the most part when a product is made by more than one company, the price is slowly lowered as they try to outsell each other.

Dropped 300% (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326305)

They're paying people to take SSDs now? That's what they meant by prices dropping 300% right?

Kinda tiny (1)

garyoa1 (2067072) | about 2 years ago | (#42326319)

I'm still trying to figger out a use for a drive so small. Even a 250g main drive is kinda pushing it for space.

Re:Kinda tiny (2)

NixieBunny (859050) | about 2 years ago | (#42326367)

Given that my first disk drive held 72 kilobytes, I find your comment a bit funny.

Re:Kinda tiny (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326489)

North Star?

Re:Kinda tiny (1)

jedidiah (1196) | about 2 years ago | (#42326609)

72KB wouldn't be big enough to store the extracted text captions from a single movie. It's too small for a single photo or a single record album compressed in MP3 or AAC.

You probably can't find a current OS or even a single application that can fit in such a small space.

It's no longer 1980. Imagine that?

Your nostalgia was outdated even by 1990.

Re:Kinda tiny (5, Insightful)

omnichad (1198475) | about 2 years ago | (#42326377)

Put your OS on it, and application binaries. You can have a second drive for everything else.

Re:Kinda tiny (1)

ranton (36917) | about 2 years ago | (#42326621)

I can see where the original poster is coming from. I recently had to upgrade my SSD to 240 GB from 120 because I was having to delete applications to install new ones. Sometimes I could easily find something I wasn't going to use anymore, like an old game, but it was becoming tricky. Applications like Visual Studio, Office, Dreamweaver, Photoshop, etc. seem to keep getting bigger (maybe not all of them, but most of them).

Luckily I was able to buy the newest Intel 240GB SSD for the exact same price that I bought my last Intel 120GB drive just a little over a year ago.

Re:Kinda tiny (1)

omnichad (1198475) | about 2 years ago | (#42326775)

Those programs might be huge, but a lot of the large resource files can be symlinked (Unix) or junctioned (NTFS) off to another drive. Final Cut Studio would have taken dozens of GB on my computer if I hadn't done that.

Re:Kinda tiny (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326389)

You're an idiot.

2 hard drives. 1 SSD for the main OS, a second slower mechanical drive for all your random crap (installed programs, movies, etc)

Re:Kinda tiny (1)

telchine (719345) | about 2 years ago | (#42326451)

I install my OS and my apps on a fast 120GB SSD. That fits pretty much everything I want; the OS boots fast and the apps load quickly. My Drobox folder (5GB) also goes on this drive which is where most of my important documents are. All the stuff that isn't speed dependant goes on a traditional hard drive. Movies, music, stuff like that.

Re:Kinda tiny (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | about 2 years ago | (#42326481)

Strange that other people are buying them then, right?

Re:Kinda tiny (2)

jedidiah (1196) | about 2 years ago | (#42326623)

Other people buy Big Macs and Fords too...

That just means that they have no clue, or no taste, or just buy things based on some sort of conspicuous consumer herd mentality.

Re:Kinda tiny (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326541)

120GB is pushing it for a Windows installation, though a fresh install is only half that size. 250gb is plenty for the OS and often used files. Larger files go to hard-drives.

Re:Kinda tiny (1)

Zan Lynx (87672) | about 2 years ago | (#42326787)

120 GB is plenty of space. I ran Windows 7 plus some apps like Firefox and LibreOffice on a 30 GB SSD in 2010 so I know it can be done. My current laptop has 128 GB and is only half full.

prices have dropped 300%.... (5, Informative)

vincefn (705639) | about 2 years ago | (#42326325)

For some models, the prices have dropped 300% over the past three years

Great, so this means that in 2012, to get some SSD disk you will be paid twice the price you would have paid to get them in 2009 ?

Sounds interesting, just the kind of storage I need for my perpetual motion simulations !

Re:prices have dropped 300%.... (2)

omnichad (1198475) | about 2 years ago | (#42326363)

Yeah. I wish that abuse of English would die a painful, horrible death. It might mean something to someone, but it doesn't mean anything to someone who thrives on math or logic.

Re:prices have dropped 300%.... (1)

na1led (1030470) | about 2 years ago | (#42326447)

It must be a typo, must meant 30%.

Re:prices have dropped 300%.... (2)

llZENll (545605) | about 2 years ago | (#42326703)

No he meant 300%, the writer admitted it was an error in the comments and said he should have wrote dropped by 2/3rds or 66%. The drop from $3/GB to $1/GB is where he got the "300%" from.

Re:prices have dropped 300%.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326701)

Just invert it. Instead of 300% cheaper, you can buy 300% more for the same money compared to 2009. That sounds about right.

Screw them (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326403)

Could use a new hard drive or 2. Not paying post Thailand inflated price tho so they're not getting a cent out of me.

Efficient storage solutions (2)

Synerg1y (2169962) | about 2 years ago | (#42326453)

Let's think about who the primary user affected by this is: the computer builder / tinkerer. There's ssds that come as a feature on higher end laptops / desktops and I'm sure those are affected by the price drop too, but the OEM will probably pocket those profits.

So, yes SSD space is more expensive than even inflated disk drives, but the performance difference is significant in the 4-5x range. Most people that this applies to probably already know this, but what you do is buy an SSD that fits all your mission critical games / apps (those game take up A LOT of space very quickly and are a major decision when deciding how big of an ssd you need) and everything else: data, movies, music goes on a spinning disk, preferably encrypted. You can install your apps / games on the disk drive, but you're kind of missing the main performance boost for those things. So buy a bit more than you need to future proof it and couple it with a spinning disk to actually store data. Doing it this way makes buying an ssd make a lot more sense.

Cpt. obvious strikes again, but reading some of the discussion, maybe not for everyone.

Wow! (2)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | about 2 years ago | (#42326469)

though some sale prices have been even lower

You don't say!

the prices have dropped 300%

They can't even give them away!

Lies! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326501)

I payed $300 to upgrade my Mac Mini's drive to an 256 GB SSD. Therefore prices haven't changed in three years.

Re:Lies! (1)

jedidiah (1196) | about 2 years ago | (#42326645)

> I payed $300 to upgrade my Mac Mini's drive to an 256 GB SSD. Therefore prices haven't changed in three years. ...and they never will.

Re:Lies! (1)

PIBM (588930) | about 2 years ago | (#42326795)

To 'upgrade'. You were already paying X$ for the previous PITA of drive included in the price so the reduction is 1-167/(300+X) (167 being the lowest price found on newegg in 30 secs.)

We could estimate X being in the range 50-100, thus, a reduction of ~ 53 - 58 %

Price drops (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326517)

How do prices drop 300%?

the article is worth what you pay for it (4, Informative)

jlv (5619) | about 2 years ago | (#42326537)

"The better deals for SSDs are now around 80- to 90-cents-per-gigabyte of capacity"? Where's this guy been?

The better deals for SSDs are now close to 50 cents a gigabyte. Two months ago I picked up four 128GB Samsung 830s for $70 each. This past month I've seen a PNY 120GB for $70, an Intel 160GB for $90, and the 128GB Samsung for $70 again. Better deals on larger SSDs (over 200GB) are now 70 cents and less - Newegg just had the a 500GB Samsung 840 for $330 (66 cents/GB).

Price (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42326589)

If a price is lowered by 100%, its cost is zero. How can prices "plunge" 300%?

Re:Price (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 2 years ago | (#42326725)

I just bought three 256GB SSD and the guy at the checkout paid me 600$.

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