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Ask Slashdot: Gifts For a 90-Year-Old, Tech-Savvy Dad?

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the subscription-to-vibe dept.

Christmas Cheer 211

First time accepted submitter Bearhouse writes "My Dad amazes me with (a) his longevity & energy, and (b) his continued ability to mess around with electronics stuff. Since he already has things ranging from valve amps made from war-surplus, via an original IBM PC kit to an Android tablet, I was going to buy him a Raspberry Pi for Christmas. Turns out he's already got one. I saw nothing that really got me excited here, so your ideas would be appreciated."

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An Arduino kit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349483)

How about an arduino starter kit? Help him start putting together his own gadgets :)

Re:An Arduino kit? (3, Funny)

Georules (655379) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349649)

Help him start putting together his own gadgets? It sounds like he's been doing that for a lot longer than any of us. Without Arduinos.

Re:An Arduino kit? (3, Interesting)

aurizon (122550) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350149)

Has he converted his home/laptop computer to an SSD? Get him an Intel 160 to 256 gig SSD, with the install kit. It makes a large difference - but, only if he does not have one.

Re:An Arduino kit? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350191)

I second Arduino, I recieved an Arduino based quadcopter kit and have found it to be a lot of fun both from the programming and aeronautic point of view.

Re:An Arduino kit? (1)

bluescrn (2120492) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350235)

Quadcopters are great fun, and you can build one quite cheaply these days - but flying/learning to fly one might be a bit much for a 90yr-old? (they do need decent vision and good reactions)

Re:An Arduino kit? (1)

geekoid (135745) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350693)

Then he can write collision and out of bounds software.

Re:An Arduino kit? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350441)

Heathkit Pacemaker

jr

Maybe a 3d printer? (5, Insightful)

joaommp (685612) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349497)

Perhaps it's a bit expensive, perhaps it's not, depends on your bugedt, but he most likely would enjoy it as a nice addition and compliment to his projects.

Re:Maybe a 3d printer? (5, Funny)

laejoh (648921) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349527)

Add in the plans of a coffin!

Re:Maybe a 3d printer? (2)

toutankh (1544253) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349695)

Of course no mod points - still, thanks for the laugh :)

Re:Maybe a 3d printer? (3, Funny)

MrHanky (141717) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350063)

Yeah, why not give the old man the gift of mod points.

Re:Maybe a 3d printer? (3, Funny)

jcoy42 (412359) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350199)

I'm sure he has stacks of books, whey not get him a nice bookshelf coffin [dornob.com] ?

I've always loved this idea. Doubt it would ship by Christmas though.

Re:Maybe a 3d printer? (1)

Translation Error (1176675) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350505)

Forget that! Add in the plans for a 90-year-old woman.

Re:Maybe a 3d printer? (1)

war4peace (1628283) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349903)

Add in plans for steampunk gizmos.

Raspberry Pi stuff (3, Insightful)

TheRealMindChild (743925) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349503)

A breakout board. A 16x2 LCD. A case.

Re:Raspberry Pi stuff (1)

WegianWarrior (649800) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349675)

One of the many RasPi Expansion Boards [elinux.org] - once I relearned the basics of programming with the help of my Pi, I'm getting at least one of those beauties.

If he is into tech and cameras.... (5, Interesting)

Lumpy (12016) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349511)

Get him a Camera Axe. Utterly cool things being done with that toy.

3d printer? (1)

Trepidity (597) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349515)

they're a bit pricey still, though

Max out his RAM (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349557)

Unless he already has 32GB or more.

same thing I always tell others (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349591)

I always tell people the same thing everytime they ask this question. Ask them. I am sure they have a list... If they dont buy them something retarded. The problem fixes itself the next year :)

Re:same thing I always tell others (2)

Jeng (926980) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349623)

That is probably the best advice.

Re:same thing I always tell others (4, Insightful)

toutankh (1544253) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349673)

For some people (including me), surprising someone and showing them that we really tried to find something they like is a very important part of making a present.

Re:same thing I always tell others (4, Insightful)

cruff (171569) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349791)

Unfortunately for those who are really into the details of a subject area, it can be next to impossible for the gift givers who are not also into those details to determine what would be a meaningful gift, especially of the recipient can afford to purchase their own items whenever they want, and they do so.

Re:same thing I always tell others (4, Insightful)

CastrTroy (595695) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349975)

I find the best gifts, tech-wise, are ones that are form non-tech people who spent the time to research what's out there and manage to get something good. My step-mother buys wood working (and other) tools for my dad all the time, and it amazes me how well she selects them, even though she knows very little about the subject. She takes a lot of time to research and find out what's good, without just going out and buying the most expensive thing. This shows a lot of thoughtfulness, and he usually appreciates them a lot.

Re:same thing I always tell others (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350227)

That's like saying "Don't ask me what I like about sex, try to figure it out by yourself and surprise me".

Romanticism has its place. That place is called "novels".

Re:same thing I always tell others (1)

bmxeroh (1694004) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349855)

I really feel that this should at least be modded up funny at a minimum.

Re:same thing I always tell others (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350179)

My parents' did that for their grandson - they asked what he wanted for his birthday and all he said was "I don't know/care". Well, that year he got a pink dress. Next year, he had plenty of good ideas.

Re:same thing I always tell others (5, Funny)

Translation Error (1176675) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350545)

My parents' did that for their grandson - they asked what he wanted for his birthday and all he said was "I don't know/care". Well, that year he got a pink dress. Next year, he had plenty of good ideas.

Of course he did! Now he can accessorize!

Re:same thing I always tell others (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350537)

For most I would agree, but when you're 90, next year isn't guaranteed and it sounds like the OP wanted to make the most of this christmas

Rockets (1)

gtirloni (1531285) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349593)

and Lasers!

What about... (1)

Synerg1y (2169962) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349599)

An electronics DIY kit? Check out these [a1parts.com] to begin with. DIY radios are pretty cool, so is anything dealing with a DIY motor. Another idea is one of those christmas lights programming kits, but that might be a bit much.

Another Pi so he can network (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349607)

You can always get more than one Pi

Enigma-E kit (2)

AYeomans (322504) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349611)

From Bletchley Park http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/shop/view_product.rhtm/133066/238531/detail.html [bletchleypark.org.uk]

£119.99

Enables you to build your very own battery powered Electronic Enigma machine. Does NOT include wooden case. Requires only basic soldering experience. Extensive easy to read 60+ page manual.

Viagra (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349633)

Viagra

-- Your 90 year-old dad.

Captcha: Buttocks.

Re:Viagra (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349761)

And a flesh light.

A couple of suggestions (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349635)

Not knowing your Dad, or what tools he has, or how geeky he is, or knowing your budget ....

How about some Geek tools?
One thing I'd like is a PC -based oscilloscope.

Variable power supply to power his projects/bread boards?
Bread board kits?
kit to make his own boards?
subscription to Make?
electro luminescent wire and drivers? (coolneon.com)

good luck

Re:A couple of suggestions (3, Interesting)

I Mean, What (2778851) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350045)

Spinning off the breadboard idea, a friend of mine built a light-sensitive theramin on a cheap Radio Shack proto board. Normally theramins are played with movement of your hands around an antenna, but the light sensitive one plays different notes as you cover the photo resistors. Here's a great source of info: http://www.instructables.com/id/Light-Theremin/ [instructables.com] . He'll probable have more fun building it, but the fun of having one may not be apparent until he sees it in action.

FPGA Dev Board (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349639)

a fpga dvelopment board with a few accessories would be a really cool present!
they are relatively cheep and can provide hours of fun and can be used to make pretty much anything

Time (5, Insightful)

Dynedain (141758) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349643)

If your Dad is 90, and has the money for whatever gadgets he might want (as evidenced that he goes out and buys them on his own) then what he'd probably most want is to spend some quality time with you.

I know it sounds cheesy, but I run into the same problem trying to buy gifts for my grandmothers. They have everything they need or want, but what they can't buy is time with family.

Re:Time (2)

DoctorBit (891714) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349965)

Maybe a trip to the Tech Museum in San Jose or the Exploratorium in San Francisco.

Re:Time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350427)

When I worked at Motorola in the early 2000's, they had a museum on the campus of their world HQ in suburban Chicago. It wasn't open to the general public except by appointment and they only gave guided tours. It was fascinating - they are one of the oldest tech companies in the US (maybe the world) and have vintage examples of almost everything they've ever done - which is a lot.

Re:Time (3, Insightful)

MMC Monster (602931) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349979)

How about a project the two of you can do together. Maybe wire a room for inbuilt speakers, add a video projector that hangs off the ceiling and a screen on a remote control and you've got a home theater. Throw in an XBMC system and a way to automatically rip DVDs and serve it off the network, with a universal remote control. Then add a TV tuner card, movie chairs, etc. Lots of things that can be done piece-meal but with a goal in sight.

Re:Time (5, Funny)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350005)

They have everything they need or want, but what they can't buy is time with family.

Mine could. I made a small fortune that way as a kid.

Re:Time (1)

neminem (561346) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350081)

Oh, for "Funny" mod points right now...

Also, I'm jealous. :p

Interview this guy for Slashdot (5, Insightful)

wjwlsn (94460) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349645)

Maybe he's not famous or well-known, but I bet he is interesting as hell. We should all aspire to have that much energy, drive, and interest as we get older... I know way too many people in their 50s and older that refuse to learn anything new. Hearing about a guy that has probably been on top of the latest tech continuously for 70-odd years is just inspiring!

Re:Interview this guy for Slashdot (1)

smurd (48976) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349757)

Agreed,
Where are the mod points when you need them?

Re:Interview this guy for Slashdot (5, Insightful)

bmxeroh (1694004) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349891)

Seriously good idea. One of the things that stuck me when my grandfather died was just how much knowledge was lost. That probably bothered me more than him actually dying, but mostly because we knew it was coming.

Re:Interview this guy for Slashdot (0)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350023)

I'm 47 and starting to tech myself to write a video game and am looking at inexpensive starter guitars. I hope this helps.

Re:Interview this guy for Slashdot (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350337)

congrats on the video game interest but the guitar screams midlife crisis.

Re:Interview this guy for Slashdot (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350075)

Or better yet interview him as part of the StoryCorps project: http://storycorps.org/

Re:Interview this guy for Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350531)

The people in their 50's who refuse to learn anything new were either the people in their teens that didn't want to learn anything new 40 years ago, or the people who made a decision to be lazy !@#$%ers somewhere between then and now. If you are aspiring to have that energy, then you're probably on the right track. Fight to keep it.

Fleshlight and viagra. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349663)

And lube.

Re:Fleshlight and viagra. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349733)

And lube.

LOL that's literally what I was going to post.

Best gifts for techy people (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349665)

Anything non techy.

Re:Best gifts for techy people (1)

edrawr (1572199) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350501)

I have to agree, I generally like to buy my own new tech as I find things that peak my interest. I have gotten a lot of nice non-tech gifts that I use on a daily basis- wallets, (analog) watch, and my favorite are benchmade knives. They even have a custom shop to make your own Griptilian series with different steel, colors and blade styles: http://www.benchmade.com/customize/default.aspx [benchmade.com] [benchmade.com]. Maybe add engraving of a special occasion, service or milestone in life.

How about... (4, Funny)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349681)

... internet service for life!? *ducks*

3d printer (1)

CaptSlaq (1491233) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349683)

So he can design and print his own cases for his builds.

try this site (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349693)

try this site:

http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/ [thisiswhyimbroke.com]

A membership to a hackerspace (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349703)

See if you have a local hackerspace around and give him a couple months of membership. Then he can work on whatever he wants.

Wait for his answer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349705)

This one is really easy. We just wait for Timothy's dad to read this and post his idea. After all he can't be a tech-savvy without reading /.

Re:Wait for his answer (1)

timothy (36799) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350465)

Heh: I just posted the question to the site (submitted by reader Bearhouse); it's not about *my* dad. (My own dad does very occasionally read Slashdot, and is tech savvy in his own, very scattershot way -- he's an EE, which helps, but he can make VCRs blink a mean 12:00. But he's got all the tech toys he needs, scattered somewhere around his basement.)

timothy

Samsung Tube amps and docks (1)

mrmtampa (231295) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349739)

I know you said he has tube amps but he might want something to complement them. I'm a 66 year old tech savvy grandfather who want's http://www.samsung.com/us/video/home-theater/HT-E6730W/ZA [samsung.com]
and http://www.samsung.com/us/video/home-theater/DA-E750/ZA [samsung.com]

Binary Desk clock (1)

realsilly (186931) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349781)

It's fun and reasonably priced. You might find one on Think Geek.

For Ma. (1)

MouseTheLuckyDog (2752443) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349787)

How about a week long trip to a spa for Ma. So he can spend more time with his wonderful toys.

For the man who has everything ... (5, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349819)

A nice bottle of scotch or bourbon.

He can sip away at it while he noodles away with all of those gadgets.

It doesn't sound like he needs your help in finding technology.

Coke and hookers (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349839)

You could start a family tradition.

If he's into his health and stuff... (4, Interesting)

Jesse_vd (821123) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349847)

http://www.indiegogo.com/misfitshine [indiegogo.com]

This is like the Fitbit but new and more durable, longer battery life etc. They don't ship until March but they're leading the CES Last Gadget Standing Contest right now. I got one for my mom and one for myself

Add 4 more Rassberry PI and a router (1)

jackb_guppy (204733) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349869)

He can start his own small Beowulf cluster.

Or 2 lego Mindstorm sets. Then you can compete building the best machine.

I tend to buy in two's for Christmas. That way a remote racecar has something to compeat with.

His very own meth lab (-1, Troll)

Provocateur (133110) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349875)

Underground preferably...

digital oscilloscope and logic analyzer (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349913)

affordable ones such as the hackable rigol (50 to 100mhz).

there's an OLS (open logic sniffer) for $50ish that is kind of cool and lets you see 16/32 lines of 3.3v or 5v logic signals. runs on usb (laptop friendly) and is kind of cool for not too much money.

I'll also let on that one of my hidden-gem favorite tech toys is a 1950's or 1960's era power supply that is just so 'retro' its cool and he'd appreciate it. its now affordable, where back in the day, only high end labs could afford or own it. search on 'power designs precision' and you'll find $100ish power supply boxes that are restorable (easily) and the metal 'dial it in' knobs are just too cool to explain in words. techies 'get it' and I bet he would, too.

HTH

GPSr & a Geocoin (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349939)

Get that man Geocaching.

There's an 82 year-old out hiding and finding caches and having a blast, around here.

Give him what he needs.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42349951)

Viagra and a trip to the Bunny Ranch

A donation to his favorite cause (1)

milgr (726027) | about a year and a half ago | (#42349959)

Does he really need or want more stuff?

Weather Station? (3, Interesting)

Java Commando (726093) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350007)

What about a networked weather station? Nearly everyone's interested in the weather, and from direct experience I can tell you it's really cool to be able to connect to your station from your smart phone, tablet, or any web browser, and observe current conditions. There are relatively inexpensive complete systems available now, such as from the likes of AcuRite. I have a Rainwise MK-III LR, myself, but those are probably more expensive than most would wish to spend.

Well wishes to your dad-- If I make it to that age I hope to exhibit the same energy and curiosity he still engages. This is great to hear about!

Fenix flashlights (1)

billmil (59216) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350019)

While more "gear head" than "techy", the new hi-tech LED flashlights (Fenix) can probably fit in anyone's home arsenal of tools and toys--whether it's one to 'always carry' or 'store at home for emergency'. These AFAICT are "police grade"--well engineered tools

I've read that some of the models are effective in temporarily blinding intruders

http://www.fenixlight.com/newping.asp

Get a Mac. (3, Funny)

Andy Prough (2730467) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350021)

Just kidding.

Hookers and Blow (1)

Tokolosh (1256448) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350083)

If I reach the 90's, that's what I want!

A video camera (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350097)

Then sit down and talk to him about his life on camera. Your kids will thank you. Or their kids.

If he's that cool, he deserves to be remembered.

Sharks, (2)

mark_reh (2015546) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350115)

with frickin' laser on their heads!

No (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350147)

Sorry about this, I have no issues with your dad, but apparently there is law [wikipedia.org] against this.

A stack of dollar bills (1)

geekoid (135745) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350169)

and strippers..lots of strippers.

Re:A stack of dollar bills (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350187)

you mean..... dikes?

(tech's will get this, I'm sure)

Re:A stack of dollar bills (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350301)

They prefer to be called "sidecutter pliers," you insensitive clod!

Re:A stack of dollar bills (2)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350345)

you mean..... dikes?

Her refusal to have sex with you doesn't make her a lesbian. ;-)

Some cool toys: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350189)

From least to most expensive, here are some mid budget items that would get me excited:
In the $200 range, and because I enjoy programming:

For super extra bonus fun, integrate the sensor with the robot operating system [ros.org] so that you can use their cool 3D visualization tools [ros.org] .

Another sweet toy, slightly more expensive at $400, is the Lytro camera [lytro.com] .

My final toy choice would be a very open 3D printing platform, like the 3rd generation Solidoodle [solidoodle.com] , which at $799 is actually only accepting pre-orders now.

If I had all that stuff, and had enough time to play with it, I'd be pretty happy.

Computer Supplies?? (1)

Art Challenor (2621733) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350251)

I bought my 80+ year old father-in-law a whole box of punch cards and 20 rolls of paper punch tape. He's always complaining he needs computer supplies, I have a feeling these will last him a lifetime!

Ham Radio (1)

gorodish (788476) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350253)

Ham Radio is a great hobby for someone like your dad. There are technical, social, competitive, and public service aspects to it, and there are so many areas of interest within the hobby that any technical person can find one or more things to pursue. Check out the information and publications at the ARRL (arrl.org) web site.

nixie tube clock kit (1)

Yonder Way (603108) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350323)

These things are all over eBay and beyond. He'll have the thrill of building himself something hip & electronic that is practical and works well with tired older eyes.

XGameStation Mach64 CPLD kit (1)

Miamicanes (730264) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350331)

Check out the Mach64 CPLD kit at xgamestation.com.

It requires a computer with a "real" parallel port (non-USB), but pcmcia ports work fine (be careful with ExpressCard... they're probably pci-express, but COULD be usb in disguise), as will docking stations that implement them via pci or pass through the "raw" (hidden) signal lines from the southbridge (like Thinkpads).

It even works with Vista, Win7, and/or 64-bit Windows. I've personally confirmed and tested it (I didn't want to risk having Christmas ruined by a nonworking new favorite toy) on my T61 running Vista/32 with generic cardbus parallel port bought on eBay. It installed & flashed the board without a hitch :-)

Whatever you would want (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350405)

... just make sure it's left to you in his will.

Don't give him tech. Give him future. (1)

Shoten (260439) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350421)

This man has technology from 70 years ago, all the way up to what is current and cool. Forget buying him technology...especially since something that involves a project is best purchased by the person who finds that project interesting at a particular moment in time.

I would ask this: how technically savvy are you? How much are you like him?

Your father sounds a lot like my grandfather. The man was an electrical engineer, and I have memories of him working at his workbench...he was retired by then, mind you...fixing TVs and other electronics for his friends. He'd get up in the morning, make breakfast, and talk to his friends via CB radio. He kept active, was the first person I knew to get a computer (even before I got mine, back in the mid-80s), and was always looking at new technology.

I'll get to the point in a minute...it's this. One day, I found myself getting up in the morning, making coffee and breakfast, and then talking with my friends on IRC as I read the first emails of the day. I was working from home as a consultant, good at what I do and successful professionally. I help my friends with their computers, and am always playing around with new technologies. And I have to think that perhaps my grandfather would be so happy to know that I followed in his footsteps in so many ways.

So, whether you're highly technical or not, see if you can get involved in what he's doing, a project, an interest. Or, if you have a son or daughter, see if your grandfather can do the same with him/her. At his age, progeny is more precious than any gadget...the idea that things keep flowing forward, the glimpse of the future, the marvel at what technologies his son or grandson/granddaughter will get to play with, even after he's passed away after a long, happy, and fruitful life. This, sir, (I assume sir...forgive me if I'm wrong) is more precious than any gadget you could give him.

Shapeoko CNC mill (1)

WillAdams (45638) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350497)

He can build it, then use it to build more things:

http://www.shapeoko.com/ [shapeoko.com]

Impossible to tell (1)

obarthelemy (160321) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350551)

what we know of the guy is "he has a raspi", and an active mind.

For gifts, my personal opinion is that experiences are better than things: concert, play, opera, fancy diner, spa... Unless you're really really sure of an object he'll like, which you don't seem to be.

Snowball board (1)

agoliveira (188870) | about a year and a half ago | (#42350653)

Maybe a board with more ways to interface with the real world like the Snowball [igloocommunity.org] ?

Gift Certificate (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42350703)

Since your father is savvy enough to stay up with electronics curve, how about a gift certificate from an online retailer that deals in gadgetry.

It's usually hard to buy for people who've been around long enough to have virtually everything they need. Your father seems to be an extreme example.

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