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Book Review: Terrible Nerd

samzenpus posted about a year ago | from the read-all-about-it dept.

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tgeller writes "It's hard to believe that today's nerdier children will one day bore their grandkids with stories of primitive mobile access, household robotics, and 3-D printers. Some will become rich and famous by latching onto tomorrow's winners; others will find themselves irrelevant as the objects of their obsessions fail in the marketplace. But all with the energy to remember will come away with stories from the dawn of creation. One such witness is Kevin Savetz, a 41-year-old technology journalist and entrepreneur whose new book Terrible Nerd recounts 'true tales of growing up geek' during the '80s computer revolution. It's a rich chronicle that deftly mixes details of his beloved technologies with the zeitgeist a particular time and space. As such, it's an entertaining read for technologists and non-techies alike." Keep reading for the rest of tgeller's review.Savetz' background was a perfect storm of nerd-incubation factors. Suburban, Californian, white, middle class, and with a statistically improbable number of engineers in the family, he suffered through "special" gym classes and illnesses that drove him further into indoor pursuits. The family's first "computer" appeared around late 1976 in the form of a Fairchild Channel F video game — the first to use ROM cartridges. It was followed by an Intellivision in 1981 before Savetz gained access to his first "real" computer a few months later: an Atari 800 at his father's house, available to him only on bi-weekly visits.

As the Atari opens Savetz' world, Terrible Nerd traces his progress into a computer-geek community that existed even then. Between epic sessions playing text adventures (like Zork) and 8-bit classics (like M.U.L.E.), he discovered programming, software trading and, ultimately, modem-connected bulletin-board systems (BBSes). This, I think, is where the book is at its most interesting: it charts not only the nascent technology, but also a young man's blossoming into an engaged, social animal.

Not that the book is short on personal insights elsewhere. Overall, Savetz does a good job interweaving technology, personal development, and his feelings at the time. It's certainly a personal book, and the author isn't afraid to come off as the bad guy once in a while. He admits to sundry misdeeds, including piracy (ubiquitous then), hacking, forgery, and even rigging a church raffle. But he also shines light on the turbulence of adolescence, from a rocky relationship with his stepfather, to a deceitful boss, to an attempted molestation by a family friend who'd given him a valuable package of software.

In this way, it's far more readable than purely technical histories, such as Peter Salus' otherwise fascinating Casting the Net: From ARPANET to INTERNET and beyond . I would have liked greater cohesion among the stories, though — a story arc, a sense that they were all driving toward something bigger. Without a crystal ball, one doesn't have that sense of purpose at the time; but as this was written in retrospect, he could have done more to tie it all together.

On the other hand, one can't fault the author's dedication to recording details of this time — a venture he nobly continues through sites such as atariarchives.org and Classic Computer Magazine Archives. Given his archivist's heart, it's surprising that the book didn't include a much-needed index.

For me, Terrible Nerd started to slow a bit when Savetz related his college experience in the late '80s. Admittedly, this sense of detachment is partly for personal reasons: my own involvement in computers died down for a few years then, so tales of the IBM PC XT and such awoke no memories. Perhaps those years were just not as technologically interesting, as "hobbyist" computers disappeared, and the focus moved from the family den to the office. Or perhaps adulthood is intrinsically less dramatic than adolescence. In any case, this period of the book is not without its great stories, such as the author's accidental denial-of-service flood that shut down Europe's internet connection, or his involvement with the famous multi-user LambdaMOO. (I regretted that he didn't comment on the attention that that MOO got, first from a notable 1994 Wired article, then from the 1999 book My Tiny Life.)

Around then, his longstanding interest in writing and journalism started to pay off. Advice from established computer journalist John C. Dvorak and a lead from war reporter (and fellow MOO-er) Jacques Leslie led him to his first gig with MicroTimes. That led to many other jobs, including a lucrative position as America Online's "AnswerMan" (for a cut of the service's substantial hourly fees). Writing a FAQ on internet faxing got him into entrepreneurship with FaxZero.com and several other endeavors, and he took part in founding an early community internet service provider (ISP). He continues to write, and to oversee several online businesses, to this day.

Like most personal narratives, Terrible Nerd has its slow moments — some phases of one's life just aren't as interesting as others. And unlike the best of them, it lacks an overriding theme beyond "It was cool to be a computer kid in the '80s!". But that was enough to keep me hooked. For those of us who shared that time and space, it's well-presented nostalgia; for those coming up now, it's a roadmap for enjoying emerging technologies in today's time and space.

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Their favorite tech will fail (2, Insightful)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about a year ago | (#42351729)

Apple will fold, LiveScribe pens will never catch on, those flexible phone things will finally be dismissed as bullshit, tablets will again vanish because they're stupid.

Re:Their favorite tech will fail (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42351799)

tablets will again vanish because they're stupid.

Ahh elementary school, where grouchy kids call anything they don't like stupid. s/elementary school/the internet/g

Re:Their favorite tech will fail (3, Insightful)

spire3661 (1038968) | about a year ago | (#42352001)

If by 'tablets disappear' you mean they will become so ubiquitous and cheap as to not even register as 'devices' anymore, then I agree.

Re:Their favorite tech will fail (2)

geekoid (135745) | about a year ago | (#42352497)

You need to send in your Humor and sarcasm Detection Module of a tune up.

Re:Their favorite tech will fail (1)

kainalu (1758320) | about 2 years ago | (#42357443)

Tune up? Time to replace yours. The new models do live firmware and definition updates. Simply connect to wifi.

Re:Their favorite tech will fail (1)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about 2 years ago | (#42359629)

They're not even useful for anything. Slow typing and everything is handled on my phone just as well, except maybe playing Go... except Godroid does that fine. Kindle is better for reading, because eInk display rocks; though I've read books on my phone too, with the Kindle app.

Back with Microsoft Transcriber/Calligrapher, handwriting recognition was ridiculously accurate... then Samsung made a concerted effort to get rid of the stylus because "consumers hate the stylus" (biggest mistake ever), and now they're pushing the Note with a new breed of stylus. Still, their little stunt crippled the development of handwriting recognition software--apparently everything out there is now crap, nobody likes it, and the Note isn't very popular, and is the only thing with a stylus-alike anyway. There's no competent office suites like Pocket Office (where is my LibreOffice.android?), I guess for chicken-and-egg between no physical keyboard and no good handwriting recognition anymore which has been encouraged because there's no real reason to have a physical keyboard since you won't type much at all.

Tablets don't easily fit in your pocket. If they do fit in your pocket, the screen is tiny--your cell phone already does that. Tablets have to be lugged under one arm to operate if they're fairly large and weighty, or somehow manipulated in the fingers by a death grip "it only weighs 11 ounces!" on your wrist. Like an oversized cell phone, the damn things are useless without some kind of wireless network connectivity. Except maybe for playing portable Solitaire, which you could do on your fucking phone.

The most popular tablet is the iPad, precisely because it's shiny. Android phones have caught on like crazy, but non-Apple tablets haven't. Why? Because people who aren't Apple-philes aren't generally drooling over the shiny, shiny new Android tablets to feed their Androphilia. A lot of us are standing around going, "These are awesome but I have no use for one." I hear this story a lot. A lot of "I GOT AN IPAD!!!" versus "I want a Nexus 7 but I don't have a use for it" or "The Asus Transformer is awesome but I have a laptop that does more."

Ubiquitous and cheap like high-end Turtle Audio sound cards.

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I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks". (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42351759)

I'm probably considered one myself and I am very much interested in old technology, but I can't stand people using these terms. I can't take them seriously. Do they think that they're being "hip" or "clever" by using these terms against themselves? People like that really bug me. I get "poser" and "hipster" vibes from them, just like I did when the average late teen started wearing shirts with the NES controller printed on it, or when people had to wait in line for the LOTR movies in spite of never even having read the books.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42351961)

or when people had to wait in line for the LOTR movies in spite of never even having read the books.

Awww, poor baby. Did you cry yourself to sleep over this?

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (1)

JosKarith (757063) | about 2 years ago | (#42357491)

Don't be a 'tard. He had VIP tickets because only the VIP seats could accomodate his insanely massive costume that would have stopped half the row behind him seeing the film...

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (3, Informative)

Spy Handler (822350) | about a year ago | (#42351967)

the book's author seems to be a genuine nerd. Computer and electronics wizard? Check. Physically weak and dreaded gym classes? Check. Withdrawn and indoors most of the time? Check.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (1)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | about a year ago | (#42352191)

"Nerd" doesn't have to mean "physically weak".

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (1)

geekoid (135745) | about a year ago | (#42352503)

Yes, it does. Find some other bandwagon to glom onto.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (2)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | about a year ago | (#42352613)

Oh, so physically powerful or fit people can't be part of the club? I see. Tell me though, I'm curious, where do you draw the line, is it by BMI, height, weight, gender, or what? Are there lower standards for women? I know a couple of very small and light Asian (and one African-American) ladies with all sorts of martial arts qualifications who would be considered very physically competent while not being at all physically imposing, how about them? This really is through the looking glass here.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (4, Funny)

ShanghaiBill (739463) | about a year ago | (#42352933)

I'm curious, where do you draw the line, is it by BMI, height, weight, gender, or what?

Simple rule of thumb: If girls find you attractive, you are not a nerd.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42354079)

Simple rule of thumb: If girls find you attractive, you are not a nerd.
 
If a girl has given you head while playing World of Warcraft, and you finished the dungeon, you are a nerd. And one lucky son-of-a-bitch

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (1)

volmtech (769154) | about 2 years ago | (#42356817)

No, if girls find you attractive and you don't notice it, you are also a nerd. When the smoking hot, blonde, solo majorette, who's locker is directly above yours, dumps her damp gym clothes on your head every day for a week and all you do is get annoyed, you are a nerd. I know she was interested in because my brother was in one of her class and she ask him if he thought I would like to ask her out. When he told me that I asked him "You knew she wanted to go out with me AND YOU DIDN'T TELL ME! The next time I saw her she was with another guy ;(

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (1)

timeOday (582209) | about a year ago | (#42353785)

Don't sweat it. You just started an argument over the definition of "nerd." You're in.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42359797)

Well, if you're dumb enough to think that everything is measureable and that concepts are delineated by strict lines, that also disqualifies you.

Helms Deep (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42352087)

or when people had to wait in line for the LOTR movies in spite of never even having read the books.

ing read the books.

You were highly indignant over the fact that there were Elves at the battle of Helms Deep and couldn't enjoy any part of the moves at all because of that, didn't you.

We're talking about fiction here. Not about some religious nuts who insist on pushing their Biblical Myth as an alternate "theory" to scientific fact.

And if someone wants to call themselves a "Geek" or "Nerd" or whatever, what skin is it off of your ass?

Get a life.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42352113)

Aspergers alert! Aspergers alert!! *whoop* *whoop* We have a level 5 Aspergers emergency here people!

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (1)

tehcyder (746570) | about 2 years ago | (#42359991)

Aspergers alert! Aspergers alert!! *whoop* *whoop* We have a level 5 Aspergers emergency here people!

I think that just counts as background noise on slashdot.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (1, Insightful)

mcgrew (92797) | about a year ago | (#42352299)

I'm probably considered one myself and I am very much interested in old technology, but I can't stand people using these terms.

It's probably like gays now calling themselves "queer". What bothers me is the nerd wannabes that show up at slashdot who think Apple is the epitome of coolness and geekery, the folks who never tore a piece of electronics apart, let alone pu it back together with added functionality, never wrote a line of code, wouldn't know what a soldering iron is for if you handed them a hot one barrel end first, the ones who think puting money into space science is foolish... those are the ones who annoy me.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42352393)

It's probably like gays now calling themselves "queer".

"Now"? You mean for 20+ years, right? But then again your a religious bigot so your view is about as enlightened as asking Bubba from the trailer park about race relations.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (2)

HeckRuler (1369601) | about a year ago | (#42352679)

It's been used to describe homosexuality for longer than that. More like a century.

But what he's talking about is apparently the re-appropriation [wikipedia.org] of the term. Similarly to how geeks embraced the insult and turned it into a badge of pride.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42354643)

Yes, I know what he was talking about. And it was re-appropriated more than 20 years ago as I said. Look up the "Queer Nation".

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (1)

geekoid (135745) | about a year ago | (#42352519)

Apple IS the epitome of coolness and geekery,

", the folks who never tore a piece of electronics apart, let alone pu it back together with added functionality, "
those would be nerds, not geeks.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42352731)

Geekery and coolness do not intersect. A nerd is someone who can handle arcane technology. A geek is someone who sits in their own excrement and bites the heads off of live chickens.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 2 years ago | (#42359191)

Check the site's masthead.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (2)

HeckRuler (1369601) | about a year ago | (#42352595)

Well, newsflash, there was a bit of a cultural shift. At some point back there we hit a critical mass. There were enough of us, and we did enough cool things, and we had enough culture-points that we overthrew the stigma previously associated with us. Geeky is the new cool.
And as with this shift, you get the hanger-ons, the posers, the wanna-bes. Those who want to be cool, but just don't quite have it, for whatever reason.
I'm pretty sure I can say I'm a geek; I was called one back when it was an insult. But there's really no way you can discern who has it, and who doesn't. "Self-described" is as best as we can do short of whipping out our geek cred and comparing it (which is the saddest, most hilarious sort of contest you can have at a bar) in some vain hope that "true" geekdom can be measured. And like so many other labels that grew into fame, we too shall simply have to accept that the term, nay, our very culture, will eventually be watered down to the point of meaningless normal behavior. But then again, what better definition of cultural victory is there than everyone being a nerd?

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (1)

PlusFiveTroll (754249) | about a year ago | (#42352695)

When I was a teen our NES club made our own controller t-shirts with Puff Paint. I was just way ahead of the hip curve. I think they call that the way too geeky curve.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (3, Insightful)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year ago | (#42352913)

Oh my god, how dare someone self-identify. People aren't allowed to have their own identities, only the ones you give them.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 2 years ago | (#42354199)

As opposed to a nerd in school who self-identified as a jock, where he would be accepted by the jocks. Oh wait, he'd get the shit beat out of him until he self-identified with an acceptable group. People are allowed to have any identity they like, but if they pick one that fits a popular definition, that definition will be used to describe them.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42354683)

Looks like someone has never matured past high school. Still jealous that the jock "stole your girlfriend"?

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 2 years ago | (#42355727)

No, I was the nerd who watched other uppity nerds get beat down. So I never had a girl friend in high school.

Re:I'm sick of self-proclaimed "nerds" and "geeks" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42353319)

Why wouldn't we call ourselves geeks to nerds? It's not as if those terms have any negative connotation anymore.

Not the beginning (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42351793)

While the timeline of this story mirrors my era in time (and is my favorite one to read about), this isn't exactly the "dawn" of 20th Century geekery.

However, I bet I would enjoy the hell out of this book, just because of my cohort.

Re:Not the beginning (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42351869)

this isn't exactly the "dawn" of 20th Century geekery

20th century? Geeks have been biting off chicken heads in circus shows since the 16th century.

Re:Not the beginning (2)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year ago | (#42352487)

In Revenge of the Nerds, technically only Booger was a geek, the guy who specialized in gross stuff.

Bad news, bad nerd (2)

crazyjj (2598719) | about a year ago | (#42351965)

Our grandkids will still have shitty household robotics. They will have long ago given up on 3-D printers, since it will still only good for producing cheap plastic crap. And their mobile access will be better and faster, but not really any more useful. And they'll still be dreaming of the day man sets foot on Mars and of fusion power, both of which their government will be promising, as always, "In about 30 years"

Re:Bad news, bad nerd (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42352111)

They'll also look back at the days when there was oil and cars and grocery stores and electricity and curse their ancestors for wasting it all.

Re:Bad news, bad nerd (5, Insightful)

mcgrew (92797) | about a year ago | (#42352193)

Our grandkids will still have shitty household robotics.

You mean like the shitty $250 computers that blow the $4000 ones we had thirty years ago away?

They will have long ago given up on 3-D printers, since it will still only good for producing cheap plastic crap.

Do you see anything in the stores that isn't cheap plastic crap? When was the last time you saw a TV in a wooden cabinet?

And their mobile access will be better and faster, but not really any more useful.

Like our cable and DSL are better and faster than 56k, but not really any more useful than the internet was 20 years ago?

You have no imagination whatever. Today's youngsters will see scientific and technological wonders we can't even dream of today, any more than I could have dreamed of not needing corrective lenses some day, any more than I thought I'd have a phone, camera, sound recorder, sound movie camera, calculator, adress book, and more in a tiny pocket sized device that everyone has.

Looking at the advances that have happened in my own life, well, I'm stunned and amazed. The youngsters will see even more. I envy them.

Re:Bad news, bad nerd (1)

Hatta (162192) | about a year ago | (#42352655)

Our grandkids will still have shitty household robotics.

You mean like the shitty $250 computers that blow the $4000 ones we had thirty years ago away?

Those $4000 computers are still going to be functioning when your grandkids have grandkids. It's unlikely a $250 computer today will last a decade.

Re:Bad news, bad nerd (2)

PlusFiveTroll (754249) | about a year ago | (#42352985)

Yes, but instead of 1 $4000 computer that is still the same old slow computer that no one writes software for running at some god forsakenly slow speed that no accessories, add-ons or parts, you can have 16. Lets say your $250 computer has a replacement cycle of 3 years, pretty common number. That means the 16 $250 you will buy instead will be spread out over 48 years.

In some applications it makes sense for the expensive computer, in industry you don't want to switch stuff out every other day of the week. In 10-20 years the same controller/computer might be useful. On your home computer trying to watch Youtube in 8D, your 20 year old computer, no so much.

Re:Bad news, bad nerd (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42352999)

Most of them aren't even around now and the ones that are are mostly non-functional. Basically, you're full of it.

Re:Bad news, bad nerd (1)

Hatta (162192) | about a year ago | (#42353421)

Most of the ones that people have kept, still work. Most of the ones that don't work can be fixed up with simple cleaning. Most of the rest need little more than a capacitor replacement.

Re:Bad news, bad nerd (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42352709)

Whoosh!

Ever notice how all your point-by-point "rebuttals" revolve around devices and services of the IT revolution?

I wonder if people in the early 20th century, looking a Ford T, were all like "wow, given that this car can convey four adults at a respectable 40 mph, just imagine how mind-boggling fast and far we will be going in 50 years?" ;-)

Re:Bad news, bad nerd (2)

PlusFiveTroll (754249) | about a year ago | (#42352795)

Do you see anything in the stores that isn't cheap plastic crap? When was the last time you saw a TV in a wooden cabinet?

As cheap plastic becomes the norm, I foresee more of this in the geek counterculture

http://forum.kizzume.com/technology-computers/wooden-and-steampunk-computer-cases-t1504.html [kizzume.com]

It would not surprise me if there is a market for high tech disguised as historical devices out there.

Re:Bad news, bad nerd (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42353675)

Gluing a bunch of gears together to make something useless isn't countercultural.

Re:Bad news, bad nerd (2)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about 2 years ago | (#42358185)

You mean like the shitty $250 computers that blow the $4000 ones we had thirty years ago away?

30 years ago, that would be 1982. That puts you out by several orders of magnitude.

In 1982, the Cray 1M was the fastest supercomputer in existence, running at a blistering 83MHz, with an unprecedented 32M of RAM. I think in terms of raw FLOPS, they're about on a par (ignoring the GPU) but the Rpi would win handily at integer stuff and utterly trounce the Cray IM for anything requiring more than 32M of RAM. Oh, and you can cheaply shove one terabit of non volatile storage into the Rpi, an amount which would have been beyone ludicrous in 1982.

It's not that the $250 computer blows away the $4000 from 30 years ago, it's that a $25 raspberry pi blows away the $8,000,000 worlds fastest supercomputer from 30 years ago.

And add a nasty $100 1920x1080 monitor and not only does it trounce the worlds fastest supercomputer, it also destroys the most expensive graphics workstations from then by an even more astonishing margin.

Mod parent up (1)

Paul Fernhout (109597) | about 2 years ago | (#42381205)

Wish I had mod points right now.

Now project that forward another 30 years...

Re:Bad news, bad nerd (2)

KalvinB (205500) | about a year ago | (#42352407)

You know, there's a huge market for cheap plastic crap. All those lazy kids that just sit around playing video games might be able to make a living having their makerbot(s) print out a bunch of crap to sell while they continue to sit around playing video games.

Re:Bad news, bad nerd (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42353351)

Lol, cheap plastic crap? So I take it you have almost no knowledge of 3d printing outside of skimming the cover of Wired while waiting in line at the drug store for your daily purchase of astrogilde?

Re:Bad news, bad nerd (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42355797)

Yes but the problem is that the people who co-opted the expression "3D printing" are the ones making crap. But they hope people will associate it with the real, high end manufacturing processes like sand printing and STL, etc. You know, the room-size machines with the 600V three phase power supply and the big yellow and red disconnect switch on the electrical panel.

People really think they will "print" an engine block at home, when in reality the 3D printing part is just making a mold in a different way. You still need to melt metal and cast it and cool it and etc. etc etc...

It's not magic, but people act like it is.

Where is the DRM-free eBook? (2)

InsertWittyNameHere (1438813) | about a year ago | (#42352203)

Ok, I'm interested. Where can I buy this as a DRM-free eBook? Not iBooks/Kindle, just a PDF or ePub or something similar that I can open anywhere.

Re:Where is the DRM-free eBook? (2)

geekoid (135745) | about a year ago | (#42352555)

Have you tried..the internet?

Re:Where is the DRM-free eBook? (1)

InsertWittyNameHere (1438813) | about a year ago | (#42352757)

Yes.

Re:Where is the DRM-free eBook? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42352701)

Try Baen's website. Both the free books and the e-books you purchase are available without DRM.

Re:Where is the DRM-free eBook? (1)

InsertWittyNameHere (1438813) | about a year ago | (#42352767)

I tried baen.com and baenebooks.com, no dice.

Telling the grandkids? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42352531)

Most nerds don't procreate

Yawn (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42352663)

I hate this gen-something, collective identity angle. Aren't nerds defined by their interest in stuff for its own sake, even if it's unpopular at the time? Well here it's the total opposite. This kind of "nerd" is defined by brand identification, nativity cohort, social stratum and facial hairstyle.

Re:Yawn (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 2 years ago | (#42354159)

Kind of like when I got into IT before the tech boom, and everyone was asking me questions implying they wanted to "join" in the IT boom because it was a boom, not because they wanted to do any IT work at all. That's just a means to a CEO of a startup end. Even if they went into IT, they'd never be nerds. A nerd likes it, and does it even when it's not paid.

Been There... (2)

RevSpaminator (1419557) | about a year ago | (#42353103)

Sounds a lot like the world I grew up in. I remember spending several years running a BBS back in 80s. Just remember kids, REAL nerds play 1st edition rules.

Re:Been There... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42356977)

Hey, hey... 2nd Ed. is just fine. You're talking about Gamma World, right?

Terrible review (1)

Novogrudok (2486718) | about 2 years ago | (#42360893)

I am not going to even download this book for free based on this review. I just hope, for the sake of whoever does get to read the book, it is not as full of cliches as this review.

"perfect storm of nerd-incubation factors"
"Savetz' ... blossoming into an engaged, social animal. "

I am sorry, but the vision of a nice introverted kid turning into an engaged animal is too terrible to contemplate.

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