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VLC For Windows 8 Reaches $65,000 Funding Goal On Kickstarter

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the consume-your-delicious-media dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "A Metro version of VLC, the popular free and open-source media player, is coming to Windows 8. On Sunday, the VideoLAN organization reached its funding goal on Kickstarter for its Windows 8-specific app. There are also plans to port it afterwards to Windows Phone 8. The project has now been funded by over 2,500 backers, who have pledged more than the £40,000 ($65,000) goal."

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VLC (2)

webmistressrachel (903577) | about 2 years ago | (#42377879)

Why wouldn't the usual version work on Win8? I was under the impression that there is a Classic-like interface, sans Start Menu?

Re:VLC (4, Informative)

ClaraBow (212734) | about 2 years ago | (#42377901)

This is for the Metro version which will work on RT, Windows phone and Windows x86

Re:VLC (5, Insightful)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42377927)

... assuming Microsoft 'approves' it. Buying into a locked ecosystem is a mistake. It's rewarding a company for taking the ownership of your hardware away.

Re:VLC (2, Interesting)

ClaraBow (212734) | about 2 years ago | (#42377973)

True. There is a good chance that it might not be approved if MS wants to push it's media player to drive music and movie sales. We shall see!

Re:VLC (4, Insightful)

Eirenarch (1099517) | about 2 years ago | (#42378385)

There is zero chance that MS will not improve it. They are desperate for apps and they approve total crap. They will not ban a quality app. Also the music player has nothing to do with selling music. The player is not related to the files you get from their service.

Re:VLC (0)

ne0n (884282) | about 2 years ago | (#42378467)

Right, they'll let it live it until it threatens any MS property or initiative.

Re:VLC (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378525)

Or they'll let it live period.

Re:VLC (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42379087)

There is zero chance that MS will not improve it.

That's the part I worry about.

Sort of like how they "improved" Windows Live Mail for the new Metro Windows Mail and it can't use POP accounts anymore.

Re:VLC (3, Insightful)

elashish14 (1302231) | about 2 years ago | (#42379091)

The issue is not whether they will approve it or not. The issue is in the principle of acting as if the hardware vendor has the right to choose what software the user and proprietor chooses to run.

As developers, we should not be complicit this terrible precendent, and we should not contribute in any way to the positive health of this system.

Re:VLC (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378589)

I would like to see people be able to tell "its" from "it is". I can dream, can't I?

Re:VLC (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378031)

It doesn't take ownership of your hardware away.
 
Aside from that? Who cares. I want something that works. If I want a hobby project I'll by a Raspberry Pi.

Re:VLC (1)

Flipao (903929) | about 2 years ago | (#42378455)

It does if you can't give it its intended use because the app you need is not being approved.

Furthermore, should Microsoft ever manage to turn Metro/Windows Store into a dominant platform, it could use its leverage to (for example) keep Open Source software out its app store.

Re:VLC (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 2 years ago | (#42378045)

then you can just side load it.

Re:VLC (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42378095)

I was under the impression that it wasn't allowed under the metro interface. Is that something easy for the average user?

Re:VLC (1)

Flipao (903929) | about 2 years ago | (#42378465)

No, you need to be a developer. With Metro, it's Microsoft's way or the highway.

Wrong (4, Informative)

cbhacking (979169) | about 2 years ago | (#42379221)

That is incorrect. Nice FUD, though.

1. Admin Powershell prompt (easily available even on Windows RT).
2. Show-WindowsDeveloperLicenceRegistration (yes, this is a PS command. Try "show-wi" + [TAB])
3. Enter Windows Live credentials. They don't have to be the ones you sign in with (in fact, you don't have to be using Windows Live signin at all), and the don't have to be associated with a developer account in any way. In fact, they can be for a throw-away account.
4. Download an APPX package and run its install script. Congrats, sideloading achieved.

The status of the "developer registration" will need to be periodically refreshed, as by default it expires after a month. However, it costs nothing except a trivial amount of time, and you can refresh it repeatedly.

Re:VLC (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42379315)

No, everyone can side load on windows rt or phone.

Re:VLC (2, Insightful)

JWW (79176) | about 2 years ago | (#42378079)

Just wondering if that one asshole developer who blocked the client on iOS will block it for windows phone as well.

Re:VLC (2)

larry bagina (561269) | about 2 years ago | (#42378237)

He worked for Nokia, so not as likely.

Re:VLC (4, Informative)

mrbrown1602 (536940) | about 2 years ago | (#42378485)

That one asshole developer claims on his blog [remlab.net] that it is "uncertain" whether or not the terms of the Windows Store are compatible with the GPLv2 and then goes on an incomprehensible rant about the App Store and Applidium (the developers of the short-lived iOS VLC app), all in the name of 'freedom'. As in beer.

So, yes, in short, he's still an asshole.

Re:VLC (1)

SeaFox (739806) | about 2 years ago | (#42379095)

Just wondering if that one asshole developer who blocked the client on iOS will block it for windows phone as well.

Couldn't the other developers have just wrote new code to serve the functionality of the stuff he wrote and replace his code, thereby removing him from the project contributor list in effect and making his opinion moot?

Re:VLC (3, Insightful)

girlintraining (1395911) | about 2 years ago | (#42378177)

... assuming Microsoft 'approves' it. Buying into a locked ecosystem is a mistake. It's rewarding a company for taking the ownership of your hardware away.

Well, there's now $65,000 out there willing to test the waters. And the developers don't lose anything if it fails -- only the investors do. I'd guess a lot of that will be spent on the lawyer screwing about over patents... it might be the case that the only thing required is a few edits here and there to surgically transplant the UI. Porting an app usually costs a fraction of the original development cost. If portability was considered from the initial design, it might only require a few hours work to prep it for compiling on a different architecture. And it's open source; Projects that survive as long as VLC has do so because the programmers made it a goal to keep maintenance down. Release one bad app and you'll be supporting it for the rest of your life. :)

Re:VLC (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42378231)

I'm curious about people moderating this as 'troll'. Do you think a locked ecosystem is a good thing? Do you think rewarding manufacturers who do it is going to result in you having more control over your hardware?

Re:VLC (2)

girlintraining (1395911) | about 2 years ago | (#42378975)

I'm curious about people moderating this as 'troll'. Do you think a locked ecosystem is a good thing? Do you think rewarding manufacturers who do it is going to result in you having more control over your hardware?

You had me right up until the third word: Think. No, the moderators do not think. They agree or disagree. Thinking is so Malda-era, and our new Web 3.0 monetization of the synergy of infolectual peer based interaction systems function better without it.

Re:VLC (1)

kestasjk (933987) | about 2 years ago | (#42379211)

For media consumption devices yes; they mean a marketplace in which theft is harder, so software is cheaper and there's more experimentation with DLC, and it makes malware much harder to propogate, no devices which can't afford background processes or anti-virus.

For media creation devices it's a nice option to have at least.

Also I've written apps for my Windows Phone; they're easy to write, and they're pretty specific to things I want (graphing my phone data usage, implementing my password system). They didn't get accepted into the marketplace because I didn't meet a couple of requirements (e.g. pressing Back doesn't take you out of the app from the welcome screen; a reasonable complaint), and since I'm not desperate to get onto the marketplace I haven't yet bothered to fix them up.
I can run my software, the marketplace loses out on some relatively unpolished/personal software, I don't get any unpolished/personal software on the marketplace; it's a tradeoff I can live with.

Re:VLC (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378345)

This is true. They should focus on Apple instead.

Re:VLC (1)

Dr Max (1696200) | about 2 years ago | (#42379297)

Why didn't you tell all the iphone developers that before they broke the system.

Re:VLC (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42379329)

I did. Greed is a greater motivator than freedom for many.

Re:VLC (1)

Dr Max (1696200) | about 2 years ago | (#42379399)

Very true.

Re:VLC (5, Funny)

Threni (635302) | about 2 years ago | (#42377903)

Presumably it's quicker and easier to fund a complete new version of VLC that it is to work out how the fuck you're supposed to launch and run a program under Windows 8?

Re:VLC (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42377983)

VLC has said that because of how the system is setup, Windows phone 8 is simpler to program for then Normal OS's (ex. windows/linux). Also the RT is not x86, so it HAS to be a big rewrite.

Re:VLC (1)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | about 2 years ago | (#42378127)

Not really they allready have arm Linux Android and bios they can recycle a lot of that code all they have to build is a new front end.

Re:VLC (1)

chronokitsune3233 (2170390) | about 2 years ago | (#42378399)

Don't forget they'll need to speak "Metro" rather than "Android" too. What you're saying is true in that a lot of code could be recycled, and it probably will be. However, there's much more that can't be recycled. That's the stuff that would need refactoring and retooling.

Re:VLC (1)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | about 2 years ago | (#42379561)

*ios not bios stupid auto-correct

Re:VLC (2)

vux984 (928602) | about 2 years ago | (#42378217)

It works perfectly fine as a desktop app; and I've got VLC installed myself.

But this new version should also run on ARM windows RT devices along with Windows phones, where obviously the "usual version" currently does not, and would not really be appropriate user interface-wise even if it did.

A tablet / touch / full screen version of VLC for that platform makes a lot of sense, and it would be pretty nice on x86 windows 86 systems for watching movies etc -- I'd like it for my HTPC for example.

I'll keep the classic vlc on my desktop, but there is definitely a place for a so-called 'modern ui' version.

Re:VLC (2)

Eirenarch (1099517) | about 2 years ago | (#42378419)

Many people may not like the Don't-call-it-Metro UI but here are $65K that like it.

Re:VLC (1)

caferace (442) | about 2 years ago | (#42378623)

Or 10 anons at Microsoft with $6500 a piece.

Re:VLC (1)

Eirenarch (1099517) | about 2 years ago | (#42379035)

Yeah and then they would not let it into the store as comments above suggest :)

Re:VLC (2)

kestasjk (933987) | about 2 years ago | (#42379217)

I like the new UI; one of the big complaints about it is that it's just a start menu that you need to get through to see the standard desktop. That'll change as more apps start to use the new UI, like VLC. I think it's great that an established OSS project is going for cutting edge new platforms under its own steam instead of sitting around and waiting for a new enthusiast to do it (and probably get a bashing from the main dev group for doing so).

but merto limited muilt tasking and lack of resiz (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 2 years ago | (#42379617)

but merto limited muilt tasking and lack of resizing sucks even more so on a big screen or muilt screen system.

Re:VLC (2)

Pinhedd (1661735) | about 2 years ago | (#42378911)

In order for an application to be perfectly portable between Windows 8, Windows RT, and Windows Phone 8 it needs to target the WinRT Run Time (related to, but not synonymous with Windows RT). Currently, VLC presumably targets the Win32 runtime which means it will run just fine on Windows 8, but not on Windows RT or Windows Phone 8.

New Kickstarter Idea (4, Interesting)

binarylarry (1338699) | about 2 years ago | (#42377913)

How about we start a kickstarter to not port VLC to windows phone?

Re:New Kickstarter Idea (1, Flamebait)

Sir_Sri (199544) | about 2 years ago | (#42378245)

For real.

This was a stupid idea. Windows 8 is a trainwreck. No serious application should be aiming for microsoft app store approval. Turning windows into a walled garden is bad for windows and bad for the PC industry as a whole. If all you have is an app store (google play or iOS app store) app, fine whatever, porting it to windows walled garden isn't making it any worse. But taking a program from the open platform desktop into the walled garden of 'metro' is a monumentally bad idea.

Now the thing is, windows 8 isn't just bad because the store is a bad idea. It's bad because it glues two completely different interfaces together in a confusing manner. And how they fix that, with windows 9, may mean a completely rewrite of 'apps' or programs, or both. And until we know what that is going to require we shouldn't be throwing money at windows 8 projects.

Those are two very separate problems, one philosophical and industry related, and the other a very open ended technical question.

Re:New Kickstarter Idea (1)

Eirenarch (1099517) | about 2 years ago | (#42378447)

Who do you mean by "we"? Because $65K do not agree with you.

Re:New Kickstarter Idea (3, Insightful)

kestasjk (933987) | about 2 years ago | (#42379219)

If you don't like it don't use it. (But you will, of course, eventually. And once you've accepted the change you'll like it. As always.)

Re:New Kickstarter Idea (3, Insightful)

Eirenarch (1099517) | about 2 years ago | (#42378439)

Because of the freedom right? We should outbid the people who are willing to pay for the Win8/WP port and make them free by denying them free software.

Flusing $65,000 down the toilet (-1, Flamebait)

ickleberry (864871) | about 2 years ago | (#42377925)

Would have been better use. At least that way a homeless person or a sewage worker might find some of it.

Re:Flusing $65,000 down the toilet (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378071)

It would take way more then $65,000 to teach you to spell.

Re:Flusing $65,000 down the toilet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378151)

It would take way more than $65,000 to teach you to spell.

Indeed.

Let Windows 8 Die (3, Interesting)

muncadunc (1679192) | about 2 years ago | (#42377929)

I would be much happier if nobody ported their software, and Windows 8 was allowed to completely fail.

Then Microsoft would be forced to fix the UI and bring back the start menu.

Re:Let Windows 8 Die (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42377993)

....The start menu is there. You are to lazy to click on it. Are you not able to find the UI in Ubuntu?

Re:Let Windows 8 Die (5, Insightful)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 2 years ago | (#42378053)

Windows 8 is my new main OS at home. Im figuring it out, and less unhappy than I was when I first got it. But it is the least discoverable UI I have ever used; Ubuntu was oodles easier to use.

Re:Let Windows 8 Die (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378241)

Then use Ubuntu and stop crying like a little bitch.

Re:Let Windows 8 Die (2)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 2 years ago | (#42378883)

Ubuntu doesnt do the things I need it to do. For instance, if I want to do virtualization in Hyper-V, thats simply not an option, and HyperV remains a fairly large player in the VM market.

Re:Let Windows 8 Die (2)

binarylarry (1338699) | about 2 years ago | (#42379283)

Ubuntu has both kvm/libvirt and VirtualBox available for it.

Both are high quality, proven virtualization solutions.

Hyper-V is a shitty slapped together solution Microsoft hurriedly arranged because they failed yet again to get into that market on time.

Re:Let Windows 8 Die (3, Interesting)

hendridm (302246) | about 2 years ago | (#42379605)

Genuinely curious, as I am not an expert in these areas, but what is wrong with VirtualBox?

Re:Let Windows 8 Die (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378445)

Interesting. The more I use it the more unhappy I am with it. At first I thought it was a little wierd (the whole 2 UI thing) but I figured I would get used to it. I have gotten used to it but like it less and less every day as I discover another annoying and arbitrary design decision. I put classic shell, so I can't complain about lack of a Start menu, I have that. The latest thing that really bugs me is that there are settings buried both in the desktop Control Panel, and also in the "Metro" Settings->Change PC Settings. You just have to know which ones are at which location.

And for all the defenders out there, there is nothing I have not been able to figure out, even if it has required search or help. I've never had to resort to documentation (help or google) with a graphical UI. The lack of discoverability is going to piss off a lot of users. Even when they get used to it windows 8 will leave them with a bad taste in their mouth.

My recommendation to Microsoft - unify the split personality. Allow users to choose "Metro Style" or "Desktop Style" and stay entirely within that UI. I see no technical reason that Desktop apps could not run in a Metro window or metro apps run in a desktop window.

Re:Let Windows 8 Die (2, Insightful)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 2 years ago | (#42378897)

I would love if they did that. My decreasing unhappiness is partly due to the performance improvements, and as I discover things I really dont like (the control panel crap you mentioned), theres other things I really like-- the new task manager, the new taskbar multimon support, and the improvements to caching.

as I discover another annoying and arbitrary design decision.

"Arbitrary" pretty much defines every single problem that Windows 8 has, actually. One wonders what sort of usability study ended up with this UI as the top pick on desktop.

Re:Let Windows 8 Die (4, Insightful)

elashish14 (1302231) | about 2 years ago | (#42379141)

It has nothing to do with usability. They're leveraging their monopoly on the desktop OEMs (again) to push their mobile platform. It's a business decision, not a user decision. If they wanted to make it usable, they're disable the tablet mode interface.

Apropos-of-nothing-UbuntuGuy(TM) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378697)

Alright! Apropos-of-nothing-UbuntuGuy(TM) has appeared; I knew you wouldn't let me down!

Re:Let Windows 8 Die (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378091)

Didn't work for Ubuntu. Yes there is Linux Mint and friends but they rely on Debian and Ubuntu upstreams. Canonical abused the Ubuntu brand good will to push amazon spyware and unity. Same with Gnome3 and Firefox after version 3.6.

It's not going to die (2)

dbIII (701233) | about 2 years ago | (#42378521)

With lock in, new PC sales, and people saying "it can't be too bad, it's from MS" it was going to get out there on a pile of machines even if it had ended up a bigger pile of shit than Vista than whatever it really is. I still have to support two piece of shit Vista 32bit machines because some idiots sneaked them in from the side, and Win8 doesn't seem to be hated as much as Vista was before the first service pack.

Re:Let Windows 8 Die (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42379303)

Just gotta ask... how long do you think you people will be bitching about metro? We're now 17 months in, and the same exact complaints have been posted on almost a daily basis here on Slashdot. When do you think you're going to run out of steam? It's not going anywhere, so you have three options: install a start menu replacement, just use Windows 7 or any other OS, or just use it and shut the fuck up. No amount of bitching is going to bring the start menu back.

65K? (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42377943)

Why, that's annual salary of an entry-to-mid level programmer. Seems like it would take a whole lot more. Sort of a strange target.

Re:65K? (4, Insightful)

__Paul__ (1570) | about 2 years ago | (#42378137)

Alternatively, it is the salary of a high-level programmer who is willing to take a pay-cut in order to avoid daily commuting, pair-programming, stand-up meetings, team-building weekends, unpaid overtime, Six Sigma, and all the other bullshit that comes with high-paying jobs in the corporate world.

Re:65K? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378507)

Eh?

Re:65K? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378615)

I'm not a part of this world. Is a stand-up meeting a bad thing? Seems like it'd get people to be as concise as possible if they're literally standing up.

Re:65K? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378935)

not anymore, management has gone to the gym while we were busy working on the products. Now they get to make us suffer both mentally and physically while we pretend to listen to them.

Re:65K? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42379575)

It's an agile term.... ours are perverted to be 1 hour long meetings every day (sitting down).

Re:65K? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378163)

They're not starting from scratch, I would think a single competent developer could port the code in less than a year. It's not like a video player needs a project manager or a UI specialist or anything, as long as you keep the scope creep in check.

Re:65K? (2)

Sir_Sri (199544) | about 2 years ago | (#42378267)

We do student projects on this scale in 4 months with 5-6 kids. Doesn't seem like it's that big a deal.

It's just changing the UI to use the metro language, and performance optimization for ARM on windows RT and anything that crops up along the way. It's not trivial, but it's not like they have to write an entire media player, with codec support etc. from scratch, or at least, hopefully don't.

Kickstarter UK Projects ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42377969)

are limited in the amount of Attention they can get.

Simply because:
1. The biggest English-Speaking-Communitys Currency is not present on the Project-Pages.
2. Nobody can use their Amazon-Account to pledge. (I think this was one of the biggest contributing Factors to Kickstarter US-Projects).
3. The Trust in Kickstarter UKs Credit-Card-Security is limited.

Re:Kickstarter UK Projects ... (1)

Sir_Sri (199544) | about 2 years ago | (#42378291)

That probably hurts things like the Elite update, which is about 400k short (~30%) with about 2 weeks left.

Oh dear (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42377975)

You fools! What have you done?!
Do you not understand the monster you have unleashed on the world?!

Re:Oh dear (2)

fredgiblet (1063752) | about 2 years ago | (#42378797)

Oh come on, VLC isn't THAT bad.

How about fix VLC for ANY operating system! (4, Interesting)

Dan East (318230) | about 2 years ago | (#42378175)

I used to use VLC exclusively, but then it began to choke on newer codecs and more demanding resolutions. I upgraded and the latest build was far worse (no audio half the time, problems skipping, etc) so I had to revert back to an older version. I've switched to Media Player Classic (which I used to use over 5 years ago before VLC) and am very pleased because it "simply works". So IMO, MPC has leapfrogged VLC in their back and forth development surges. The fact that the latest releases of VLC were worse leads me to believe whatever developers are now active are not doing such a good job.

Until VLC can be made to halfway work on ANY platform, I'd be hesitant to try and push it out to Windows 8. There are fundamental problems with the low level decoding right now that need to be fixed first, before high level GUI / API / OS stuff is tweaked for a new OS.

Re:How about fix VLC for ANY operating system! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378605)

I'm not sure what platform you're using it on, but for myself, on a WIN7 system, there hasnt been a codec that can't be played and I download a ton of crap.

Re:How about fix VLC for ANY operating system! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378651)

Maybe Dan has some really esoteric porn from the east?

VLC 64-bit's VERY good on Win 64-bit... apk (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378657)

I see the opposite on Win7 64-bit, actually Dan East! To wit:

I went to Media Player Classic 64-bit for about a year, prior to lately/now!

(Since I went to 64-bit Windows 7 circa 2009 when it released)

However, lately, on SOME video files? MediaPlayer Classic began to LAG...

Even using its 'optimized' output option.

So, it was time to try VLC 64-bit & since versions before the one I use now in 2.05 just recently released (2.02 - 2.04)? It hauls ass, & doesn't "lag frames" like I've seen Media Player Classic do since version before 1.6.5.6366 (which was the last one I used, also recently updated & re-released).

Coolest part is - the VLC 64-bit build's not even FINAL yet.

* Now, admittedly - I'm NO EXPERT on multimedia (@ least not anymore & NOT that I ever was really since the last work I did programmatically in multimedia filework was this in that regards -> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22APK%22+and+%22Cd-Rom%22+and+%22Alarm%22&btnG=Search&hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&gbv=1 [google.com] way, Way, WAY back circa 1997-2004 iirc, & that was only for std. sound formats like wav, cd rom music tracks, mp3, etc.).

HOWEVER... it appears to ME @ least, thusfar, that the problem ISN'T possibly in their code, but how the codecs are being implemented that they're using... thoughts?

Now, iirc, also - VLC implements a lot of their OWN code to do the work of external codecs... is this true? Operating on "trivia memory" here.

Thanks!

APK

P.S.=> Lastly - I'll take correction here from folks that are more "expert" in multimedia & CODECS than I am (and, thanks actually on that note: I am all about learning more - it's part of the reason, if not THE biggest reason, I hit forums like this one - nobody "knows it all", this field's TOO big & changes TOO fast)

... apk

Re:VLC 64-bit's VERY good on Win 64-bit... apk (1)

JonySuede (1908576) | about 2 years ago | (#42378957)

keep on posting like that; seriously, you changed for the best :)
an ex- coward that now cower in fear of Mikaealchristthepet628

Re:How about fix VLC for ANY operating system! (1)

fermion (181285) | about 2 years ago | (#42379227)

While on non-MS Windows there are many different GUIs to play videos, on MS Windows I have found VLC to be the only reliable method to play videos. Now on MS Windows 7 and 8 MS may have included a workable interface, so VLC may not be a necessity. On other platforms it is optional.

But I found VLC too slow for my liking lately... (1)

bogaboga (793279) | about 2 years ago | (#42378187)

This isn't to troll, but I am sorry to say, that VLC versions 2.x.x and up were too slow for my liking compared to the 1.x.x seies. Talk of "improving the customer experience!"

Needless to say, I abandoned ship! On Android, I have discovered BSPlayer FREE [google.com] . This is one player that will not throw errors at the multiple video formats I've thrown at it. VLC on Android isn't even out of beta! On windows, it chokes and sucks big time!

Re:But I found VLC too slow for my liking lately.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378959)

I like the MoboPlayer on Android. Combined with ES File Explorer File Manager makes it easy to play shared video clips over wifi.

Re:But I found VLC too slow for my liking lately.. (1)

geminidomino (614729) | about 2 years ago | (#42379233)

You're not alone. I still use it on Windows for its wide video support, but even on simple audio files (mp3, mostly), it's become a real dog.

Funding (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378189)

Windows 8 "port" is a smokescreen. This funding will allow even more features to be added in a short amount of time. So it is a good thing.

GPL? Does WIN8 / Win Phone not have DRM (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378257)

Was the DRM of Apple-Apps not the reason for removing it from the Apple-app-store?
Since most likely both new windows platforms use some DRM in the store would that not again be forbidden by licence?

Actual VLC Kickstarter page (4, Informative)

Trillian_1138 (221423) | about 2 years ago | (#42378265)

The article link in the OP has some interesting quotes, but to not include the actual Kickstarter project page [kickstarter.com] (which still has 5 days to go) seems incredibly lazy...

DO NOT support this. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378303)

To support this is to give support to windows 8. Windows 8 needs to die as quickly as possible so it can be replaced with a better operating system.

So basically if you give them money or support their effort then you are encouraging people to purchase and windows 8.

M$ cockgobblers (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378389)

Who the fuck would want to use windows 8 or windows phone? microsoft is fucking SHIT and anyone that wants to use that garbage is a fucking jackwad.

Re:M$ cockgobblers (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378517)

People put their money where their mouth is: $65,000 in fact. Pretty solid sum for an alternative video player on an OS that's supposedly a miserable, unusable failure. Enjoy Unity and your new version of Enlightenment.

IMO, this is a Good Thing(TM), MS aside. (1)

chronokitsune3233 (2170390) | about 2 years ago | (#42378471)

Extreme dislike for MS aside, would you rather have Granny G. launch an app from the Start screen or call you up always asking how to play some obscure media file because Windows Media Player won't play it, and she doesn't know what VLC is or where to find it?

Not only that, but consider it a marketing move. If you get there first and play a lot more media than WMP, maybe it can finally die off, and you'll increase your user base as well. While I doubt that is any of the motivation, it's a nice dream I have.

In any case, I hope this works out for the VLC team. VLC is a great application, both for regular users and power users.

MS Should PAY Developers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378491)

MS seriously needs to start paying app developers to port their stuff for the new platform. I still feel that they aren't trying hard enough to be successful in the smart phone\app market game.

They need to come out and publicly announce how much money they're willing to lose in order to develop a viable app ecosystem if anyone is going to take them seriously. At this point the number is going to need to be in the Billions of dollars, and if they lack the will to do that, then WP 8 will be a non-starter. Who the hell wants a smart phone with no apps? If they can't provide 500K good quality apps VERY soon, WP 8 will go the way of the Zune.

I don't get it, they made it work with XBox by throwing Billions at the problem, why can't they do it with phones?

Sorry for the AC post, I can't be bothered making an account...

What's the point? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378693)

Why make software for an OS that nobody should ever actually have to use?

Re:What's the point? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378865)

Get out of the open source/free software echo chamber: people are not only using Windows 8, not only enjoying Windows 8, but are willing to put up more money to enhance their Windows 8 experience.

Ironic donations aside, how much money would a Hurd kickstarter get?

I would have donated! (1)

elabs (2539572) | about 2 years ago | (#42378871)

I didn't even know about this. Dang! I'm an example of someone who is willing to pay to get the apps I want.

Meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42378939)

Last time I looked at VLC it tried to install some toolbar crap by default so I declined. Fuck that, I'm not installing some advertising shite just to watch some video.

ffdshow + matroska pack lite + haali media splitter + media player classic = sorted.

That is a good thing (1)

JonySuede (1908576) | about 2 years ago | (#42378991)

I happen to be a marginal freak that happen to like win8 on my laptop and HTPC. A native VLC version will be great for me.

However I would not installed it on my desktop because 1: I lack a license to do so and 2: I would have to buy start8.

New model for software development? (1)

Kwyj1b0 (2757125) | about 2 years ago | (#42379313)

While I don't care much if VLC is ported, the idea of a community sponsored software development is interesting to me. I have often felt that software design decisions appear arbitrary for me (small time no-influence user). This gives people an actual insight into what are popular features, and a heads-up on future changes.

While many companies have feedback (submit suggestions) on their website, it seems like it is flushed down the tubes. I get a "Thank you for blah blah blah" and have no idea of what happened. The only token I had that my suggestion was heard was this one time where the company representative called me up with follow up questions and to discuss what could be done (again, I am a no-name client, not someone who pays millions for "privileged status").

I'd also like to see software with easy in-application access to feedback - the moment you think of something, you should be able to send off a report asking for the feature. And it should analyze the data and tell you if there is something similar to this request so you can upvote that instead. Basically, listen to your damn users and let them know that you are aware of their suggestions in a meaningful (not generic email) type of way.

How far we have come. Now we raise money and beg (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42379503)

to be allowed an open app installation?

Jesus, I'm starting to get old. What the hell are you guys thinking? Were we, or were we not all talking about this exact scenario 10 years ago?

And "reaching the goal" is a good thing how?

Fuck these clowns. If we can't directly run OSS, the hardware whatever it is, is a piece of shit. Let it fail, and we move on.

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