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Bee Venom Has "Botox-Like Effect," Is Worth 7 Times As Much As Gold

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the not-sure-smart-money-is-the-right-word dept.

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dryriver writes "The BBC reports that cosmetic products using bee venom as an ingredient are a new 'hot seller' in the cosmetics market. Bee venom is said to have an effect on female skin similar to Botox injections, tightening the skin and making wrinkles and other signs of aging appear less pronounced than before. Unlike Botox, however, bee venom does not need to be injected, and can be absorbed through the skin naturally as an ingredient of cosmetic skin creme. Now comes the kicker: A special electrified device that causes bees to sting a synthetic membrane and release their venom can harvest about one gram of bee venom from 20 bee hives. That one gram of bee venom is worth a whopping 350 dollars. This makes bee venom almost seven times more valuable than gold, which, in comparison, is worth only about 53 dollars per gram."

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Botox (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379361)

Then why not just use Botox?

Re:Botox (5, Informative)

kimvette (919543) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379373)

FTFS:

Unlike Botox, however, bee venom does not need to be injected, and can be absorbed through the skin naturally as an ingredient of cosmetic skin creme.

Re:Botox (2)

Cryacin (657549) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379521)

So buy up big on Beetox (tm) futures now, and reap the rewards.

Re:Botox (1)

LordLucless (582312) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379391)

Why not just read the summary?

Unlike Botox, however, bee venom does not need to be injected, and can be absorbed through the skin naturally as an ingredient of cosmetic skin creme.

Re:Botox (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379433)

This is Slashdot. We have a proud tradition of not reading the articles, summaries, or even headlines, and then spouting inaccurate, misinformed idiocy and feeling smug about what "experts" we are.

Re:Botox (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379897)

I'll have you know that I'm an expert on bee venom and bee venom accessories.

Re:Botox (4, Insightful)

calzones (890942) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379429)

Why female skin is a more apt question.

Does it not work for guys or is it an assumption that guys aren't interested in looking younger?

And more importantly (2)

Andy Prough (2730467) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379499)

does it work on neckbeards??

Re:And more importantly (5, Funny)

taxman_10m (41083) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379825)

No. The beard gets in the way of the neck.

Re:Botox (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379507)

Considering the price of the active ingredient i think it's fair to assume that the quantities in any anti-ageing product will be about as effective as any current venomless skin cream, maybe they feel that, since women are already very used to convincing themselves of the efficacy of some made up or at least utterly useless new wonder molecule they're also most likely to feel the effects of any bee venom branded moisturisers.

Re:Botox (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379533)

Yes, men use botox, often with less than optimal results, e.g. Bruce Jenner (google)

Re:Botox (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379649)

I was also wondering why it only works on women's skin. I didn't know our skin was that different.

Re:Botox (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379907)

If you didn't know that men's skin was different from women's skin, you were probably a faggot.

Re:Botox (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379665)

I wouldn't be surprised if Rush Limbaugh were using it (and then lying and saying he wasn't). He has used Viagra with someone else's prescription.

Re:Botox (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42380035)

With the right marketing guys could be a far bigger market:

"My balls are as smooth as pearls, and you know how much women love pearls"

7 times the price of gold? (5, Funny)

Roger W Moore (538166) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379377)

I think we've finally found the real reason why honey bees are disappearing.

Re:7 times the price of gold? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379415)

They are hiding in the powder room like women checking their make ups?

Re:7 times the price of gold? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379425)

It's better than hiding in their parents' basement like fat Slashdotters eating their Doritos.

Re:7 times the price of gold? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379727)

The bees may sting us, but they will never take our Doritos! We'll fight to the pain if need be!

Re:7 times the price of gold? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379921)

They are hiding under your tinfoil hat?

Can't we just 3D print it? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379379)

I mean I keep hearing about how 3D printing is supposed to be the next bonanza? Just like nanotechnology was supposed to be in the 1980s and 90s? I mean just look at what nanotechnology has brought us so far! Um, oh wait...

Re:Can't we just 3D print it? (2)

QuesarVII (904243) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379421)

I mean just look at what nanotechnology has brought us so far! Um, oh wait...

You mean something like a handheld computer that can make phone calls, surf the internet, play games, and all weighs less than a pound? Oh, and is so ubiquitous that even your grandma might have one?

If only that had happened we could say nanotechnology was a success :(

Re:Can't we just 3D print it? (2)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379489)

your celphone is not nanotech

Re:Can't we just 3D print it? (0)

QuesarVII (904243) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379511)

Processors with traces measured in nanometers ftw. That's what enables small technology, and very high performance tech too.

Re:Can't we just 3D print it? (1)

angel'o'sphere (80593) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379977)

Nevertheless you parent is right, it is not nanotech ;D

It's not just Drexler now (1)

dbIII (701233) | about a year and a half ago | (#42380033)

Everything and it's dog is nanotech since the definition shifted. Sunscreen gets called nanotech just because it has sub-micron particles suspended in it. So while it may not fit your definition or mine, it's shorthand for anything small for some people now (even if the sizes are in the hundreds of microns).

Re:Can't we just 3D print it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379861)

Yes, comparing things that can send coded photons to something that is supposed to make matter makes perfect sense.

Re:Can't we just 3D print it? (5, Funny)

LoverOfJoy (820058) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379609)

And you thought bee venom was expensive? Just wait until you see the prices of HP 3D Printer Bee Venom Cartridges.

Sudden Colony Collapse (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379385)

hmmmm....bees go missing, venom worth more than gold...

What's the connection I'm not seeing???

Re:Sudden Colony Collapse (1)

jkiller (1030766) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379539)

hmmmm....bees go missing, venom worth more than gold...

What's the connection I'm not seeing???

[Oblig]... "No noise..." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEcDk7MIQZw [youtube.com]

bee venom (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379395)

slow day, eh?

Does it kill the bees??? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379411)

It would be a real downer if you electrified and killed your entire hive. If not, I can see a new industry of steeling other people's bee sting toxin and an ancillary industry of armed bee hive guards.

Re:Does it kill the bees??? (4, Informative)

IonOtter (629215) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379439)

No, the bees just get really pissed off by the current, and it encourages them to sting the glass.

Per the video, you can "harvest" every two weeks.

Re:Does it kill the bees??? (3, Informative)

bwcbwc (601780) | about a year and a half ago | (#42380077)

Hmmm, I was going to say that bees die when they sting. But that's because normally the stinger gets hooked in the victim and the bee's abdomen ruptures when the stinger is pulled off. If they're stinging glass, I suppose it's possible they could survive the experience because the stinger wouldn't get stuck.

Not for long (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379423)

Instead of producing it from bees for $350/g, you could put the appropriate genes into some E. coli and have them produce it for 20% of that price or less. But of course then you wouldn't be able to sell it for $350/g.

Re:Not for long (3, Funny)

Sulphur (1548251) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379817)

Instead of producing it from bees for $350/g, you could put the appropriate genes into some E. coli and have them produce it for 20% of that price or less. But of course then you wouldn't be able to sell it for $350/g.

I thought getting shitfaced meant something else.

Correct me if I'm wrong (3, Insightful)

theIsovist (1348209) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379437)

Bee's die after stinging, which means that you're losing twenty hives of bees for only $350. That sounds like a huge loss to any bee keeper. That also seems like a hell of a lose of bees that are already suffering from sudden colony collapse... Am I wrong here?

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379463)

I believe they only die if their stinger breaks off. One would assume that the membrane is designed to leave the stinger intact.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (5, Informative)

Zomalaja (1324199) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379467)

http://www.abeeco.co.nz/shop/Bee+Venom+Products.html [abeeco.co.nz]
"To extract the Bee Venom a pane of glass is placed along side the hive and a small electrical current is run through it, which encourages the bees to sting the surface. The bees are not harmed in the process."

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (0)

theIsovist (1348209) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379519)

Well played, good sir

The HORROR... (4, Interesting)

Frosty Piss (770223) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379633)

Well, this will certainly aggravate the Vegans, who believe that honey is not "vegan" because we are enslaving the bee.

http://www.vegetus.org/honey/honey.htm [vegetus.org]

Though I'm sure they happily eat fruits and vegetables that are pollinated with domesticated bees that farmers have "enslaved"...

Re:The HORROR... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379787)

Honey is an animal product, as it is made by bees. Vegans don't eat animal products (chicken, beef, honey, milk) and that is why they don't eat honey. Though, a vegan can also feel that it is a bad practice to harvest honey, but that depends on each specific person.

Re:The HORROR... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42380057)

The whole point of what Frosty Piss said was that honey is as much a bee product as fruits and vegetables, it is just not so in the conscious mind.

So if you discard honey for being an "animal product" then you should go ahead and just discard yourself from the gene pool.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (1)

inamorty (1227366) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379483)

They die after stinging human flesh. From wikipedia [wikipedia.org] :

When a honey bee stings a person, it cannot pull the barbed stinger back out. It leaves behind not only the stinger, but also part of its abdomen and digestive tract, plus muscles and nerves. This massive abdominal rupture is what kills the honey bee. Honey bees are the only species of bees to die after stinging.

Unless they use Joan Rivers to collect the venom, I'm sure they've figured out how to not kill the bees during the process.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379911)

I wonder how evolutionists would explain why honey bees never evolved out of this self-destructive behaviour.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (1)

ahabswhale (1189519) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379929)

I wonder how the creationists would explain this suicidal behavior. I remember hearing God hates suicide.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (1)

dbIII (701233) | about a year and a half ago | (#42380047)

Preying mantis sex should be enough to convince those hard core creationist losers that it's not only bad science but also bad theology. If you go looking for God in every tiny thing you instead find the Devil in the details.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42380067)

Only the non-reproducing female workers have stings, so there is selection against that.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42380071)

And that should be NO selection against that.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379495)

You're assuming that this particular type of bee has any other economical benefit. TFS doesn't specify. Different bees are used for different tasks, but these ones may not be useful for anything more than their venom.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (1)

Cochonou (576531) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379783)

Almost all bees (except parasitic bees ?) are important contributors to pollination, though. This would mean they have an indirect economical benefit to the society as a whole... which may or may not be taken into account by the bee venom farmers.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379563)

My thoughts exactly. Last I heard (my father's a beekeeper), nuc' colonies were going for $80+. For those not in the know, that's a small wooden box with a few frames, a queen and supporting bees - essentially a boxed swarm. The contents of the nuc would have to be transferred to and grow into a hive that's something in the range of 4-10 times larger than the originating nuc. If you could somehow extract a gram of venom from ONE hive, it would still be a money-losing proposition, let alone twenty.
The only way I could see venom extraction being practical is if the process could somehow single out the oldest bees that are about to die anyway (they work themselves to death). That way the death of the individual bees has minimal impact on the colony.

Perhaps this system could provide a secondary income stream for individuals or businesses already engaged in the extermination of africanized (killer) bee colonies.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (1)

TheEffigy (2666397) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379659)

Actually the bee only dies because the stinger is barbed and it rips it's guts out when it pulls away.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379775)

The reason bees die after stinging is that the sting gets hooked to the victims' skin and gets embedded there thus getting torn off the bees' face. Probably stinging the glass just delivers the venom without the sting getting detached from the bee.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379831)

Not to mention it's cruel towards the individual bee.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379837)

1) Analyze
2) Synthesize
3) PROFIT!!

i apologize in advance (3, Funny)

alienzed (732782) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379445)

leave them bee!

The next Tulip Mania? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379449)

I've gotta stock up on bee venom quick! Before we fall over the fiscal cliff!

Buyer Beware the Far East knockoffs (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379453)

Some of them will make claims that sound superficially similar, but which will really produce the "Buttocks like effect" rather "Botox like effect".

price comparison (4, Insightful)

swell (195815) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379455)

"This makes Bee Venom almost seven times more valuable than Gold, which, in comparison, is worth only about 53 Dollars per 1 gram."

So it costs the same as ink for my printer, data for my cellphone, gas for my car (soon), and clean drinking water (later).

Re:price comparison (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379877)

How do you measure cellphone data by the gram?

Re:price comparison (2)

Eyeball97 (816684) | about a year and a half ago | (#42380099)

Simple, you measure the cost of your data bundle in libraries of congress, then divide by the weight of a library of congress...

another use... APK (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379493)

I asked my "doctor" to inject BOTOX into my sphincter to remove the wrinkles but he refused. Hopefully I can use this => http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/12/24/0056235/bee-venom-has-botox-like-effect-is-worth-7-times-as-much-as-gold [slashdot.org] to improve the appearance of my puckered asshole.

APK

P.S. => I already wax and bleach my asshole and encourage everyone else to do the same.

...apk

Re:another use... APK (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379517)

Is the bleach to kill germs and bacteria or does it do something for looks? Doesn't that burn?

And still cheaper than ink for my printer (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379497)

Man, I wonder how much and what animal venom they use in my ink jet printer cartridges...

Pssst...... (3, Funny)

rts008 (812749) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379899)

*whispers*: Platypus venom.

My Semen has the same effect (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379527)

I promise. And pretty girls can have it for free. Just pump the dispenser.

Re:My Semen has the same effect (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42380015)

No, I'd prefer they applied electric current to you.

For the best (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379557)

I'm tired of seeing paralysed faces in the persuit of looking beautiful. Considering people are willing to inject BOTULISM into their faces to look better, a replacement was direly needed.

Re:For the best (1)

Hsien-Ko (1090623) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379585)

and then we exhaust all the bees in the world for this new oil, suddenly our ecosystem is missing part of its cycle (pollination). A world in ruins, all for artificial, emotionless yet pretty, faces.

Re: For the best (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379669)

True, but you won't be able to see the surprise on our young, wrinkle-free faces ;-)

That's nice (1)

onyxruby (118189) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379567)

I'm glad bee venom is worth something, perhaps it will inspire people to try stave off the great bee die off. However I don't give a damn what wasp, hornet, or yellow jacket venom is worth, if I see one in the wrong place it's going to die a horrible death. Dammit

Killer bee use (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379569)

Finally, a use for those african killer bees.

Its price is likely temporary (1)

mysidia (191772) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379581)

Perhaps due to limited / patent-restricted availability of the extraction method.

The price will likely decrease, when owners of large bee colonies start figuring out ways of capitalizing on this.

Or when biotech folks come up with a way of producing "synthetic" bee venom, grown by bacteria infused with genes extracted from the bees.

Re:Its price is likely temporary (1)

DarkTempes (822722) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379723)

Maybe...I know beekeepers are having population issues due to mites/disease/colony collapse disorder.

What does gold have to do with this? (3, Insightful)

Demonantis (1340557) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379591)

There are a ton of products more valuable than gold. I don't understand why that is a big deal. Hopefully this makes honey cheaper with the extra source of income.

Wasabi (1, Informative)

Required Snark (1702878) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379607)

I just saw fresh whole (not ground) wasabi root for sale in a Japanese market in Los Angeles for $149 a pound. A one inch diameter piece 3/4 inch long was around $9. The second most expensive food I found was Spanish Blue Fin tuna for $55 a pound.

Price comparison chart (1)

jkrise (535370) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379637)

I don't understand this gold thing against which the commercial value of this bee sting is being compared. Please express this in terms of:

1. Bags of potato fries (for fitness conscious folks)
2. The average software patent (for nerds like us)
3. Members of the senate (who care so much for us)
4. iPhones (everyone seems to want one)
5. Windows 8 licenses (see above)
6. First posts on /. (I wish this one was)

Re:Price comparison chart (3, Funny)

IHC Navistar (967161) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379747)

I need clarification on your proposed measurement #3.

By 'Members of the Senate", do you mean:

a) The value of their lives (What the rest of us would be losing if they were to magically disappear in a Harry Potter-esque manner),
b) Their value to the rest of us (What we gain from them per capita versus what they take from us),
-or-
c) What it costs to buy one (What needs explaining?!)

Re:Price comparison chart (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379863)

I don't understand this gold thing against which the commercial value of this bee sting is being compared.

Me neither. I mean, I have the most unique piece of naval lint in the Universe right here -- an infinity of each of your six metrics could not compensate the rarity of this naval lint, my DNA on it is unique and once discovered I vowed to never let any accumulate again, so It's one of a kind -- and yet, no one values it; However, theres multitudes of bees, diamonds, gold, and other resources and they're seen as more valuable. It seems the value allocation system is arbitrary and corrupt.

As in all things: I blame Big Media. They've got women hiding proof of their hard earned life experiences with poisons; Not even the permanent smile lines caused by decades of great joy are sacred! I can only hope to harness this desire to look perpetually beautiful. If they'll rub venom in their eyes today, they'll adopt cybernetic bodies in the future. Humans in their current form are too fragile and thus too expensive to survive sustainable long term space colonization. Some day we'll proudly engineer our coverings to emulate the imperfections we now feel shame over. In the meanwhile we must bait them slowly with small advances in beauty along the way. If the path to the stars and to a necessarily more durable race be driven by the desire to maintain skin-deep beauty, then so bee it.

Inkjet Printer Ink (2)

jomegat (706411) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379645)

That must be what they use to make inkjet printer ink.

Re:Inkjet Printer Ink (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379809)

you must have the wrong printer then...

hp 940xl black (for officejet 8000 series) rated for 2200 pages: $30-35 for 'genuine' oem, $10-12 for remanufactured... way cheaper than laser.

Lolwut (5, Interesting)

Psicopatico (1005433) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379705)

Bee's venom can kill by inducing shock in allergic subjects.
It looks like it has a very nasty property of being a potential allergenic (I hope I got the correct term. If not, sorry) meaning: once you get stinged, you may become allergic to venom even if before you weren't. This in sufficently predisposed subjects.

And now it is going to be the golden ingredient for some cosmetic? I hope it is going to be subjected to some form of medical control, to say the least.

But I'm no chemist nor biologist so I may be completely wrong.

funny story (1)

asmkm22 (1902712) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379715)

This reminds me of an urban legend (or maybe I just watched it on Fox) about some guys basically stinging their penis with bee's to make it swell up.

Re:funny story (2)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379887)

some guys basically stinging their penis with bee's to make it swell up.

I've discovered that beavers can have the same effect.

& times as much as gold? (1)

Jafafa Hots (580169) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379733)

Wow! That makes it worth almost 1 percent its weight in inkjet printer ink.

Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379805)

That's FAD-tastic. I'm sure that'll be around a while.

Bee sting allergy? (1)

riverat1 (1048260) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379811)

I imagine that people with serious bee sting allergies are best advised to avoid this treatment.

Gender-specific venom action ? (3, Insightful)

vikingpower (768921) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379821)

to have an effect on female skin

Male skin is not affected, thusly.

Sherlock Holmes and Bee venom (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379851)

There was a fascinating Sherlock Holmes based science fiction story, that Holmes retired to study beekeeping and discovered an elixir of life.The side effects were complex, and did not suggest that it as a popular treatment.

Tomorrow's News: Bee Thieves Apprehended (1)

skaag (206358) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379855)

Now we know who's been stealing all those bees that have been "Disappearing" around the world ;-)

So just grow really big car sized bees (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379865)

You, know, just monkey around with their DNA a bit, to produce bees that pump out a gallon or four liters of venom per sting?

This is done in bad science fiction films all the time. Start doing underground nuclear tests again with beehives. Or zap them with Gamma Rays.

But be careful not to get them too angry.

And tell chicks that want better skin to just go stick their heads in a beehive.

YOU FAIL IT (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379881)

The public eye: and solD in the and personal BE ANY FUCKING ransom for their fatal mistakes, distribution. As I'm discussing Please moderate

A small correction (4, Insightful)

jandersen (462034) | about a year and a half ago | (#42379909)

Botox injections, tightening the skin and making wrinkles and other signs of aging appear less pronounced...

Botulinum toxin does not tighten the skin - it paralyses muscles, and since many wrinkles are aggravated by muscles in the skin, paralysing them can make the wrinkles less pronounced. This paralysis is very evident on the faces of many aging celebrities - they simply struggle with producing facial expressions.

It's a strange thing, isn't it? Instead of accepting their age, people mistreat themselves so they look 'younger', at least when you're not too close. I think it is deeply sad; and it only makes you look less attractive.

Old news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379953)

The Wasp Woman: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054462/

speak to the devil (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42379965)

speak to the devil. this is what I was telling my co workers and I wonder if they saw this is Unlock Blackberry 9800 [techmajesty.com]

Do not get people started on this FAD... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42380079)

Jesus Tits - STOP - Our bee numbers are already fucked up as it is. When you extract venom from a BEE, it KILLS the BEE, right now we NEED bees for other things like growing FOOD to EAT, not to be sacrificed instead to your clueless, moral-less ego and vanity! I don't really give a fuck if you CAN do it, you SHOULDN'T because it's WRONG!

The natural way (1)

hcs_$reboot (1536101) | about a year and a half ago | (#42380087)

Some people may want to harvest the bee venom themselves... but provided that most of people confuse bees and wasps, that may be dangerous (yes, Maya the bee is actually a wasp).
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