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UK Milk Supply Contains New MRSA Strain

Soulskill posted about a year and a half ago | from the don't-have-a-cow dept.

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Tests on milk from several different farms across the U.K. have turned up evidence for a new strain of MRSA — bacteria which have evolved resistance to common antibiotics. As long as the milk is properly pasteurized, it poses no threat to consumers, but anyone working directly with the animals bears a small risk of infection. According to The Independent, "The disclosure comes amid growing concern over the use of modern antibiotics on British farms, driven by price pressure imposed by the big supermarket chains. Intensive farming with thousands of animals raised in cramped conditions means infections spread faster and the need for antibiotics is consequently greater. Three classes of antibiotics rated as 'critically important to human medicine' by the World Health Organization – cephalosporins, fluoroquinolones and macrolides – have increased in use in the animal population by eightfold in the last decade."

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erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42396747)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig is a waste of life obese swine with no dick!

erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42396757)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig is a waste of life obese swine with no dick!

Nothing to worry about (4, Funny)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#42396813)

They just need to be sure they regularly dose their cows with the right antibiotic...

Re:Nothing to worry about (-1)

TheRon6 (929989) | about a year and a half ago | (#42396853)

They just need to be sure they regularly dose their cows with the right antibiotic...

From the SUMMARY:

several different farms across the U.K. have turned up evidence for a new strain of MRSA — bacteria which have evolved resistance to common antibiotics

Re:Nothing to worry about (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42396917)

I find the complete lack of humor on this website disturbing. Are all you nerds really that blind to a joke?

Re:Nothing to worry about (4, Funny)

houghi (78078) | about a year and a half ago | (#42396941)

So now we must read the article AND the summary?

Nerds and humor (5, Funny)

mynameiskhan (2689067) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397253)

Obviously you have forgotten the meaning of a 'nerd'. Many are xkcd resistant strains.

Re:Nothing to worry about (2)

mcgrew (92797) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397117)

That was my first response when I saw his stupid comment, then it occurred to me he's trying vainly to be funny.

Re:Nothing to worry about (1)

icebike (68054) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398115)

he's trying vainly to be funny.

Apparently the mods disagree with you.

ummm uncommon antibiotics (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397467)

these types while not used often can be but the fear is that they dont want to use these "uncommon ones" because of they get resistant then you get issues if somehting real bad crops up

personally i stopped eating beef
and i might evne go all the way now and say to hell with meat its beginnign to sound to darn dangerous to eat with a coporation in control that doesn't care about me only its money

these cows should be destroyed and i don't believe for one second that they are 100% safe...example if the persn getitng you the beef is at some risk what about befor eyou cook it...
ya logic is a bitch aint it.

Re:ummm uncommon antibiotics (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397869)

It is far easier to cook a piece of meat sufficiently to kill germs than to cook your salad/fruits.

Re:ummm uncommon antibiotics (4, Funny)

icebike (68054) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398133)

It is far easier to cook a piece of meat sufficiently to kill germs than to cook your salad/fruits.

Not to mention your left arm, once it gets infected.

Re:Nothing to worry about (5, Interesting)

joocemann (1273720) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397063)

Stop using methicillin and the resistance will go away. Microbiology 101.

It takes less than 10 divisions for the microbe not producing resistance to take over since it has a fitness advantage of not needing to invest energy in resistance.

If they were to employ scientists not partially, but fully, in this issue, we would have it solved by now. The prblem is that the long term answers by scientists would reduce short term gains desired by business.

Alas, pursuit of capital over what is right will again shoot us in the foot. The market has no long term plans or goals. Regulation and intervention with science is the only way now.

Re:Nothing to worry about (5, Interesting)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397153)

If they were to employ scientists not partially, but fully, in this issue, we would have it solved by now. The prblem is that the long term answers by scientists would reduce short term gains desired by business.

This.

I cringe every time I hear people accusing scientists of scaremongering for the money. The big money in all the controversial areas is on the anti-science side, without exception.

Re:Nothing to worry about (5, Informative)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397423)

Settle down you two. You do realize that the term 'scientists' is broadly encompassing? People that work for the evil industry. People whose moral compass shines brightly through the evil fog of the world (that's IT, no more caffeine this morning).

They don't live under volcanoes and play with obese felines. Well, most of them anyway.

First of all, bacterial resistance genes turn out to me much more complex than previously thought. Many resistance genes have evolved on cassettes [wikipedia.org] which have the ability to evolve irrespective of the host bacterial genome. So they are selected to hang around, even in the absence of the initial selection factor.

Further, these cassettes can be transmitted to OTHER bacteria even without antibiotic selection and annoyingly enough, tend to get lumped together into multiple antibiotic resistant bacteria. So, we've let the cat out of the bag - it was inevitable although we managed to make it a bigger problem faster than need be.

TL;DR antibiotic resistance is going to be around a long time whether or not we use the antibiotics. Scientists aren't all greedy douchebags. There are more things in heaven and earth, dear Slashdotters, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Re:Nothing to worry about (4, Informative)

joocemann (1273720) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398503)

They reject the casette when the selecting factor is removed. Fyi.

Re:Nothing to worry about (1)

CanadianRealist (1258974) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398863)

And they eject the casette when the right button is pushed.

Re:Nothing to worry about (1)

flayzernax (1060680) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397687)

You both pointed out something I always assumed the people telling them to use antibiotics were, u know, pushing an agenda.

I guess they could have gotten sound advice and ignored it because they would have to cull some of the herd and loose productivity.

Re:Nothing to worry about (1)

TapeCutter (624760) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398797)

It's much cheaper to give every cow a regular dose of antibiotics than it is to identify and treat infected individuals. No need for an agenda here, the long term problems have been well known for decades, it's just another example of the invisible hand fist fucking society for short term gains.

Re:Nothing to worry about (2)

goombah99 (560566) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398407)

Stop using methicillin and the resistance will go away. Microbiology 101.

It takes less than 10 divisions for the microbe not producing resistance to take over since it has a fitness advantage of not needing to invest energy in resistance.

Un fortunately that is not true. Now it is true that for some types of drug resistance that can happen. But in general some types of resistance, like for example eflux pumps, are so generic and cover so many function in the bug that they mechanism won't go away just because one drug is removed.

Re:Nothing to worry about (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397817)

We reap what we sow.

Captcha: desire

And this is how the world will end.... (5, Insightful)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | about a year and a half ago | (#42396857)

With an ever increasing pressure to drop prices so that the numbers in the next quarter (or, for the long-term corporate leaders, next 2 years) are met. Screw the fact that we're raising a whole class of nasty bugs that will enable us to relive the glory of pre-penicillin times, when something as simple as a cut meant possible amputation of the affected limb.

Antibiotic resistance is probably one of the worst things we're facing down in the coming century or so, right next to AGC. Both have the ability to have a tremendous negative impact on our lives, and both are a long time off - in other words, they are things no politician or corporate owner will want to touch while they're still working.

Re:And this is how the world will end.... (2)

benjfowler (239527) | about a year and a half ago | (#42396889)

Karma's a bitch.

When the superbugs become immune to everything, the richarses will be just as screwed as us, and it'll probably serve them right.

But But But... (2)

fredrated (639554) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397329)

What about the Free Market?

Re:And this is how the world will end.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397489)

If it gets that bad, we will probably end up going the route of the Quarians [wikia.com] where we will always use sealed full-body suits. Unfortunate but we will survive.

Re:And this is how the world will end.... (2)

icebike (68054) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397531)

Antibiotic resistance is probably one of the worst things we're facing down in the coming century or so,

This is true, and finding MRSA in the wild brings this much closer be becoming a far more universal problem.

The playing field is vastly different than in the pre-penicillin days when the only hope of finding a "cure" was an exhaustive search to find a compound that would kill the bugs. The very name MRSA stems from resistance to penicillin type drugs. Now with rapid DNA sequencing we can not only identify MRSA much faster [huffingtonpost.com] , but we _should_ also be able to find additional ways to kill it, including some physical means [cdc.gov] against which there is no way of developing resistance.

I suspect the way forward will be in designer drugs rather than the happening upon something that works being found on moldy toast.

DNA sequencing has also shown that there is many more than one form of MRSA.

Re:And this is how the world will end.... (2)

dgatwood (11270) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398187)

Actually, you can develop resistance to what you call "physical means", too, up to a point. Just look at the rise of triclosan resistance since the proliferation of antibacterial soap. There are even reports of some UV-resistant bacteria [slashdot.org] out there.

Growth promotors (5, Insightful)

benjfowler (239527) | about a year and a half ago | (#42396863)

Big agribusiness preemptively pumping their animals full of antibiotics to kill off their gut flora as "growth promotors", which packing them in like sardines, to make a quick buck -- a hack to make the animals bigger and more productive, but also to compensate for the filth and squalor the beknighted creatures are kept in...

What could _possibly_ go wrong?

Re:Growth promotors (0)

Belial6 (794905) | about a year and a half ago | (#42396899)

And yet few want to talk about the root problem here. Too many humans. If we had 1/10 of the human population on earth, there would be far less need to cram animals together, and thus less need for the antibiotics in farming.

Re:Growth promotors (1)

jamstar7 (694492) | about a year and a half ago | (#42396991)

And yet few want to talk about the root problem here. Too many humans. If we had 1/10 of the human population on earth, there would be far less need to cram animals together, and thus less need for the antibiotics in farming.

What do you expect from people who refuse to believe in the facts of natural selection? The MRSA strain hitting the UK's milk supply is proof positive of natural selection.

Re:Growth promotors (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397103)

In that case shouldn't it be happening in America?

Re:Growth promotors (3, Insightful)

larry bagina (561269) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397583)

The same thing is happening in the US (not MRSA in milk specifically, but antibiotics are a standard part of cow chow [wikipedia.org] )

Re:Growth promotors (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397947)

It is, but you're not allowed to find out, and thanks to Oprah and mad cow disease, if you did find out you'd be sued into silence if you dared to speak out.

Re:Growth promotors (2)

s0nicfreak (615390) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397173)

How is humans drinking milk past infancy - not to mention cow's milk - in any way natural? This is not natural selection, it is a problem that humans created, that we knew for a long time would happen, but said "Who cares if it will cause problems for others later, as long as I can have what I want right now?"

Natural selection would be if we didn't make so much food and then only the people that can survive on less food survived.

Re:Growth promotors (2)

hamburger lady (218108) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398095)

humans drinking cow's milk may not be natural, but by that end cooking food isn't natural either. no other creature does it.

Re:Growth promotors (1)

s0nicfreak (615390) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398561)

You're right, but that doesn't contradict what I said. And anyway, there is still plenty of food that humans can naturally process without cooking it first. Although I suppose that if all the ovens in the world stopped working tomorrow, there would be some natural selection happening from people that can't process things that don't need to be cooked, and people too stupid to eat something that doesn't need to be cooked, but that has nothing to do with what I asked.

Re:Growth promotors (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397023)

And yet few want to talk about the root problem here. Too many humans.

No. Feeding, clothing, and sheltering "too many" humans might be a problem. Those humans themselves are not "the root problem".

Re:Growth promotors (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397035)

And yet few want to talk about the root problem here. Too many humans.

Every time I hear someone utter this type of rhetoric I can't help but to think they are suicidal or homicidal maniacs.

Pound for pound the Earth can, and has, sustained a much larger mammalian population than your "unworthy of life" humans.

Re:Growth promotors (2)

na1led (1030470) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397101)

We can blame it on BRAINS then.

Re:Growth promotors (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397309)

Pound for pound the Earth can, and has, sustained a much larger mammalian population than your "unworthy of life" humans

No doubt it has, and the planet has probably supported a larger biomass in the form of reptiles at other points in its history.
But hey, don't you see, the problem with the current human 'infestation' is that it has, by and large, put itself beyond the normal 'control mechanisms' the ecosystem of the planet has evolved to deal with the uncontrolled dominance of a single species.
We don't take the hint, we try and heal our sick, feed our starving, keep our old living beyond their 'useful' lifespans, wipe out diseases that 'threaten' us, we don't know nor accept that that all these things (disease, famine, senescence) are there for our (as a species) own good, and we should accept all these things as being an inevitable part of the great circle of life, etc. etc.

We're buggers that way for ignoring shit like this, and long may we remain doing so...at least, until the next big bloody asteroid comes a callin'.

Re:Growth promotors (4, Insightful)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397465)

And yet few want to talk about the root problem here. Too many humans.

Every time I hear someone utter this type of rhetoric I can't help but to think they are suicidal or homicidal maniacs.

Pound for pound the Earth can, and has, sustained a much larger mammalian population than your "unworthy of life" humans.

Homo industrialis has a much bigger environmental footprint that any dinosaur, whale or large mammal created. That said, other animals and plants have significantly changed the environment in the past to the detriment of some organisms and advantage of others. Shit happens.

Re:Growth promotors (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397579)

The Earth can sustain a much larger population of humans, but that doesn't mean it will be good for the humans. Don't expect the Western way of living to be possible if the population on Earth keeps growing. China already has had problems with their population, even though their standard of living is much lower, but at least they are trying to solve the problem. India is soon in bigger trouble.

Re:Growth promotors (1)

alen (225700) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397051)

Do you want to be killed first?

For the good if the planet?

Re:Growth promotors (1)

obarel (670863) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397169)

No thanks, just not have children if that's OK with you. Do the same and within 100 years all those problems will go away.

Re:Growth promotors (4, Funny)

dkleinsc (563838) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397357)

He's a /. geek: Chances are good that there's not much risk of him having children.

Re:Growth promotors (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397845)

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times..."

And the beat goes on.

No. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397073)

A rise in population density is what drove us to become farmers, which in turn gave us all the technological innovations we know and love today. Who is to say that the problems created by even greater population density will not give us the nudge we need to make even more amazing technologies?

Synthetic milk, and/or a means of keeping cows clean without the antibiotics, both spring to mind.

And, be that as it may, if you want to reduce the world's population all you need to do is find a means of providing a high, luxurious quality of living for everyone (seeing as how luxury has proven to be the best form of birth control).

Re:Growth promotors (2)

s0nicfreak (615390) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397135)

That would be valid if eating these animals was necessary for humans to survive. It isn't. We could stop cramming so many animals together, eat less (or no) meat, and still survive.

Re:Growth promotors (4, Interesting)

na1led (1030470) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397281)

If we all stopped eating meat. We all would be much healthier, have lots more food for everyone, and population would increase another 3x because of it.

Re:Growth promotors (1)

erroneus (253617) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397543)

And would you like to talk about the problem?

The problem isn't in the first world... not THAT problem anyway. The birth rates in the US and other first world countries are on the decline. We work longer and have fewer children. The third world countries, on the other hand, can't ship their children to us fast enough. And in those countries, they keep having children they can't feed. All those "feed the children" charities aren't paying for television ads for no reason are they?

So we have a problem alright. We have uneven progress and development across this planet. We have 1st and 3rd worlds... the Morlocks and the Eloi. We in the first world are to become the Morlocks if we could just get rid of that annoying middle class. And the Eloi are those who live in the 3rd world and/or in poverty within the first world. There can't be equality because that would upset the balance after all right?

FatASS erroneus' problem? He WANTS PIZZA! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397569)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig's an obese swine with no dick!

Re:FatASS erroneus' problem? He WANTS PIZZA! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397581)

Hahaha that one's good I saw it, but this one's far funnier http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3341329&cid=42396495 [slashdot.org] about FatASS no dick erroneus hunger n' weird cravings for pizza and sucking dick too.

Re:Growth promotors (1)

hamburger lady (218108) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398065)

even if we had 1/10th the population, we'd still cram animals together in these conditions.

the real root problem here isn't as much 'too many humans' as it is 'just plain ol humanity'. we do this stuff to animals because as a people we really don't give a shit and we save money. two things that when added together make an unstoppable force for destruction.

lol, capitalism... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42396865)

So much choice, all of it poorly produced and badly finished.

A good dose of cooperation brings a country forward in ten years by what takes a capitalist country a hundred. Unfortunately, the same power-hungry bastards rise to the top, so the only thing that works in the long term is limitation of the power of any single organisation.

Which includes big supermarkets.

Break them up. Fuck 'em.

erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42396909)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig's an obese swine with no dick!

erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42396919)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig's an obese swine with no dick!

erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42396931)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig's an obese swine with no dick!

erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42396945)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig's an obese swine with no dick!

erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42396951)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig's an obese swine with no dick!

Pharma will try but no promises.... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42396961)

...I'm a pharma researcher at we have active programs trying to create next generation antibiotics, but the simple fact is evolution works. Eventually things will become resistant. These kinds of practices HAVE to stop because, frankly, it's getting harder to come up with new antibiotics. We have some new ideas, new biology is being uncovered, and different routes to attacking bugs are being explored. But the fact is that there will be fewer and fewer new classes of antibiotics rolling out. Pay the higher price for milk so that when you get strep throat you don't die from it. This clearly penny-wise pound-foolish thinking. A politician would do well to stand in the way of these practices under the guise of making sure that being able to protect our citizens and children from the ravages of infection wasn't just a "really nice period of humanity during the 20th and early 21st century before everything was resistant to everything." Think about someone sawing your kids leg off and then decide if milk is worth a buck / gallon more to you.

Re:Pharma will try but no promises.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397757)

Such a platform will not get votes. I agree with you that it should get votes, and that this practice should stop, but that is not how humans operate. We won't get in front of this problem. We will wait until the next plague actually hits us before we start regulating this practice.

I am not happy about it either....but most people don't take seriously any doomsaying that comes from scientists.

Re:Pharma will try but no promises.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42398039)

If you're willing to bet AGAINST the money system, I think you're in for a nasty surprise.
The money system will create disaster upon disaster, and then make us pay to save us from them.
The same that happened to third world countries and american natives, will happen to us. Karma is OUR bitch.

Captcha: material

Re:Pharma will try but no promises.... (1)

mcelrath (8027) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398481)

Maybe you would know... Why is research insisting on "broad spectrum" antibiotics: single compounds that kill many bugs, rather than making antibiotic cocktails? If there is a probability of developing a resistance P, then a cocktail containing two antibiotics should have a probability P^2. Is it something sickening to do with patents? Or is there a good scientific reason?

Obligatory XKCD (3)

SD NFN STM (759426) | about a year and a half ago | (#42396963)

Obligatory XKCD. It seems that Randall Munroe is the Nostradamus of our time, having predicted all future events in his humorous comic strip:

http://xkcd.com/1147/ [xkcd.com]

Everybody should just get their milk... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42396967)

From Hillary Swank.

Seriously, listen to your all-powerful leader, Stewie the First.

BUT NOT ANDROMEDA STRAIN SO NOT SO BAD !! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397013)

This we can handle !! If not, UK has nukes to solve the problem !! Iran, you are the worst strain of all !!

erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397017)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig's an obese swine with no dick!

erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397033)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig's an obese swine with no dick!

erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397047)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig's an obese swine with no dick!

erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397097)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig's an obese swine with no dick!

I blame it on BRAINS! (1)

na1led (1030470) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397129)

Whether your brain fails to understand the problem, or is the cause of the problem.

What with milk prices? (1)

Tagged_84 (1144281) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397247)

In Australia we also have unsustainable pressure from our 2 supermarket overlords driving down diary farmers to at-cost or loss prices. Our milk is at $1 a litre now, you pay more for bottled water! Are the rest of the world's supermarkets pushing down milk prices? I wonder if the cookie industry will take notice and capitalize on this free flowing milk...

Drop Milk (3, Interesting)

assertation (1255714) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397273)

Just stop using cow's milk.

60% of the global population can't digest milk once they become adults.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2009-08-30-lactose-intolerance_N.htm [usatoday.com]

Health researchers at Harvard have even come out and said cows milk isn't a necessary part of a healthy diet, it is something that is TOLERATED in a healthy diet if people don't get too much:
http://beforewisdom.com/blog/milkandbones/experts-lose-the-cows-milk/ [beforewisdom.com]

Some dairy foods can have as much or more cholesterol and saturated fat as meat.

There are substitute milks made out of almonds, rice, hemp or soy in many supermarkets now. You can use those or fortified orange juice to get plenty of calcium without the digestive stress or the many health, digestive issues of cows milk

Re:Drop Milk (5, Interesting)

ByteSlicer (735276) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397695)

60% of the global population can't digest milk once they become adults.

No, 60% of the global population can't fully digest milk sugar (lactose), which only constitutes 5% of milk by weight.
Of those people, many tolerate the undigested lactose to varying degrees, tied to geographical distribution of certain genes.
The other components of milk (water, protein, fat, calcium) can be digested normally.

Re:Drop Milk (1)

assertation (1255714) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397743)

What is the point of your post? Undigestable cow's milk sugar is still an integral part of milk for most of the world's adult population?

Why drink something that will give you digestive discomfort, take special pills to drink it or drink a processed version of it when there is no need?

Re:Drop Milk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42398037)

No, 60% of the global population can't fully digest milk sugar (lactose), which only constitutes 5% of milk by weight.

What is the point of your post?

Would you understand the point if your employer stated giving you only 5% of your salary and explaining that the part you received is still an integral part of your compensation?

Intentional equivocation is the most pervasive of lies. Besides, if you can digest lactose this is a non sequitur. Pass the cheese and crackers.

Re:Drop Milk (1, Troll)

swb (14022) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397755)

It always cracks me up to see someone up on their soap box about some health or nutrition issue and then start throwing "saturated fat" and "cholesterol".

You know that saturated fat and dietary cholesterol aren't bad for us, don't you? That the conventional wisdom on obesity and cardiovascular health relative to saturated fat and cholesterol is junk science?

Overlords (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42398177)

the overlords want us to drink milk because Lactose is metabolised into Galactose which can be used to induce a model of senescence. Thats right, Lactose->Galactose causes aging at a cellular level.

They also want us to eat lots of monounsaturated vegetable oil because, for one reason, they become saturated by halogens which significantly increases the body burden of said halogens (bromine and fluorine are the culprits), theyre also enzyme inhibitors and goitrogens.

There is a war on the endocrine systems, and thyroid.

Re:Drop Milk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397979)

Is "The China Study" still relevant? Colin Cambell (the Jacob Gould Schurman Professor Emeritus of Nutritional Biochemistry at Cornell University) made a strong argument in that book that casin in milk is detrimental to the human body. The milk industry has us believing milk does the body good The opposite may be true. I personally stay away from the stuff.

Re:Drop Milk (1)

steelfood (895457) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398055)

Nuts and soy are common allergens. Hemp, well, nobody's going to fall for that one.

Re:Drop Milk (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42398453)

Oh?

If milk was in the traditional diet of anyone but us Whites, you wouldn't be so quick to say it should be dropped. Protect everyone else, but fuck us, right?

Milk is perfectly natural and healthy (for people with the gene to digest it, i.e. mostly Whites), and has evidently been part of our diet for thousands of years.

Got Bacteria? (1)

fredrated (639554) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397301)

Ummm good....

Tell me again why "organic is overrated"? (1)

erroneus (253617) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397347)

I think, and have always thought, that the natural way of cultivating foods for human consumption is better. The business people strive to reduce loss and to increase production. But they forget to ask questions which has less to do with money such as environmental costs or anything to do with "long term" effects of short term gains.

Of course, as long as "everyone" is doing it, no one is responsible and of course if a few hold back from those practices, they will be swallowed up by those who do in the short term.

Welcome to the system.

The government regulators exist to prevent these types of systemic problems. What's that? Bought and paid for you say? Hrm... didn't see that one coming.

Re:Tell me again why "organic is overrated"? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397495)

Hahahahaha I heard ya like pizza erroneus you fat shit http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3341329&cid=42396495 [slashdot.org]

Re:Tell me again why "organic is overrated"? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397527)

no shit. fat fuck erroneus is famous all over slashdot today it seems.

Re:Tell me again why "organic is overrated"? (1)

erroneus (253617) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397639)

I am the blessed forcus of a severely obsessive and uncontrolled mind. Even before the topic was responded to by people interested in it, we are flooded with commentary in MY HONOR!

You know, with mental illness as the sub-topic of the recent violent incident involving children the same age as my youngest son, news organizations are looking for the next great related story. Only recently, a newspaper had taken to "creating news" by publishing an interactive map of registered gun owners which stirred up both hostile and smug responses depending on which side of the polarizing issue a person may be. But the dialogue is also moving into the direction of mental health and how we can detect protential problems.

Here, for example, we have a particular individual (or set of individuals?) who go(es) out of his way to leave an enormous trail of evidence behind which to study and investigate. And since I am one of the focuses, I have already been contacted by parties interested in this angle of the story. I hope my interviews provide are useful insight into the problem at hand.

Re:Tell me again why "organic is overrated"? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397663)

LMAO Sure didn't sound that way to me here Erroneus http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3341329&cid=42396495 [slashdot.org]

erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397555)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig's an obese swine with no dick!

erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397699)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig's an obese swine with no dick!

Just add a little Ammonia to the milk (1)

na1led (1030470) | about a year and a half ago | (#42397783)

they already do it to meat. What's the harm, right?

Re:Just add a little Ammonia to the milk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42398355)

or bleach to make your milk whiter than write. X ___ X

customers are responsible (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397833)

Every supermarket has also 'greener' products with better conditions for the animals. Nobody is forcing customers to buy intensive farming products. Just buy greener products and intensive farming will diminish.

Humans aren't supposed to drink cows' milk... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397893)

... but I'm sure the brainwashed 'intellectuals' at Slashdot will insist that I'm wrong, won't think it through, and convince themselves that they're 'normal'.

After all, 'everybody else is doing it', right? So it MUST be right!

Why don't you go up to a pregnant cow, lie down and suck milk out of her udders with your mouth? Why not? Because you're not supposed to, that's why, but because you've been told 'by society' that it's normal, and your parents told you it's 'normal', you do it, and even defend it, because you would literally rather die than THINK, or change. How pathetic.

Would you like some milk with your pus? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42397981)

Gross...

Obvious solution. (1)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398069)

As long as the milk is properly pasteurized, it poses no threat to consumers, but anyone working directly with the animals bears a small risk of infection.

Pasteurize the cows.

Mmmm.. Milk! (1)

BeerAndLoathing (810465) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398103)

Where's your MRSA mustache?

erroneus (253617) FatASS needs PIZZA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42398131)

"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769 [slashdot.org] since that disgusting fatbody pig's an obese swine with no dick!

antibiotics are part of the business model (1)

faustoc4 (2766155) | about a year and a half ago | (#42398339)

It's not only the "cramped conditions" (sic) that produce infections, also the corn they are fed and the Posilac (TM) hormone they get injected produce more infections. Also antibiotics promote growth, so they are given to healthy animals as well.

Lies. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42398365)

Evolution is a lie. This article is nothing more than atheist fear mongering.

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