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Panda Blood May Hold Potent Assailant Against Superbugs

samzenpus posted about a year and a half ago | from the a-glass-every-morning dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Pandas have long been the face of conservation efforts by environmental activists, but a recent finding may boost even further the need for pandas to evade extinction. Researchers have discovered a powerful antibody in panda blood that could serve as the next frontier in the fight against increasingly prevalent superbugs. The compound is called cathelicin-AM. Discovered when researchers analyzed the creatures' DNA, it has been found to kill fungus and bacteria. It is believed that the antibiotic is released to protect the animal from infections in the wild and, in studies, it has been found to kill both standard and drug-resistant strains of microbes and fungi. The compound also worked extremely quickly, killing off strains of bacteria in just an hour, while conventional antibiotics needed six."

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Gypsy Tears (4, Funny)

WillgasM (1646719) | about a year and a half ago | (#42436667)

Gypsy tears work way better, and at a fraction of the price.

Re:Gypsy Tears (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42436771)

I also hear that they protect against AIDS.

Gator blood (not gatorade) (1)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | about a year and a half ago | (#42438119)

I've heard rumors that something in the blood of alligators / crocodiles can kill even the toughest super-germs.

If the rumor of gator blood is true, how does it compare to panda blood?

Re:Gypsy Tears (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42436787)

I thought that was phoenix tears.

Re:Gypsy Tears (1)

RoknrolZombie (2504888) | about a year and a half ago | (#42436923)

Only problem with this is that in order to get Gypsy tears you generally have to manage to earn a Gypsy curse.

Re:Gypsy Tears (1)

davester666 (731373) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437029)

Really?

Do you know how hard it is to make a Gypsy cry?

It's easier to get a permit to throw cats off a building.

Re:Gypsy Tears (1, Funny)

arth1 (260657) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437327)

Do you know how hard it is to make a Gypsy cry?

Not hard at all - just tell him how much it's going to cost to fix his caravan.

Now a gypsy virgin's tears, on the other cheek...

Re:Gypsy Tears (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437743)

How to make a gypsy cry - give them a tax bill/cut their social welfare.

I wonder if this is why the Chinese like pandas for their medicine. What about Rhino horns also?

Re:Gypsy Tears (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437201)

You must be confused, that's virgin Gypsy tears. Rare as hen's teeth, those are.

Re:Gypsy Tears (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437367)

Frodo: It's a pity Bilbo didn't kill him when he had the chance.
Gandalf: Pity? It was pity that stayed Bilbo's hand. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that Gollum has some part to play yet, for good or ill before this is over. The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many.
- Lord of the Rings

Captcha: blossom

Re:Gypsy Tears (1)

craigminah (1885846) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437755)

I heard tiger penis and bear gall bladder are good for stuff too but aren't there better things out there or can't we synthesize whatever's in those items?

Re:Gypsy Tears (4, Informative)

EdIII (1114411) | about a year ago | (#42438769)

I don't think they are suggesting the actual harvesting of Panda blood.

Seriously. Jesus Fucking Christ. You could put a male and female Panda in there with a bottle of Wine, Viagra, and an ounce of the finest weed, and they still won't fuck . It's a well known fact that the species is on the verge of extinction simply because they don't have a tremendous urge to procreate.

Any serious interest in this will be synthesized, and if it's required to be grown in an animal, we will probably use modified rabbits. If you look away for two seconds with those bastards, they already multiplied in the cage.

Wow - Pandas (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42436691)

Cool, so now I just need to eat some Pandas and I won't ever get sick. Can you just see that spreading? It seems like the masses always get some lame, diluted, and plain wrong message out of this stuff. Goodbye Pandas...

Re:Wow - Pandas (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42436837)

Yet Charlie Sheen was wrong, not TigerBlood, it's Panda Blood

Panda Steaks, Medium Rare! (1)

jimmifett (2434568) | about a year and a half ago | (#42436939)

If Panda tasted good, they'd never go extinct.
Cows, chickens, and pre-bacon will be around until humans are extinct!

Re:Panda Steaks, Medium Rare! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437073)

I think you need to read up about all the animals that humans have hunted to extinction.

Re:Panda Steaks, Medium Rare! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437149)

It's really a simple formula. If Taste > Difficulty raising animal, we keep. If it's either terrible tasting or hard to keep producing, we let it go. The panda is notoriously difficulty to keep in production, so it better taste damn good.

Re:Panda Steaks, Medium Rare! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437189)

But in many (most?) of those cases it wasn't because the animal was tasty, it was because some part of them was valuable. The passenger pidgeon might be an exception, but I believe that was more due to them being cheap meat rather than tasty meat.

It is likely habitat change is the primary reason for animals to go extinct.

Re:Panda Steaks, Medium Rare! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437241)

The dodo tasted pretty good I hear...

Re:Panda Steaks, Medium Rare! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437765)

No, it did not. It was just the only thing around.
If it had tasted good, someone would have brought a couple home for breeding.

Re:Panda Steaks, Medium Rare! (1)

arth1 (260657) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437995)

No, it did not. It was just the only thing around.
If it had tasted good, someone would have brought a couple home for breeding.

So where are the farms breeding dodos, passenger pigeons and eastern elk?

World of Warcraft kung fu pandas (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#42438159)

Wow - Pandas

What do the Pandaren in World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria have to do with anything?

Finally something that panda's are good at (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42436727)

Did we ever find out what panda's are really here for and why we're keeping them alive? I guess this is the first reason...

I for one welcome our Chinese Zookeeper Overlords (1)

Picass0 (147474) | about a year and a half ago | (#42436735)

Well, if our useless lawmakers in Washington can't make big pharma offer competitive pricing maybe China can.

Re:I for one welcome our Chinese Zookeeper Overlor (1)

bunratty (545641) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437533)

We could simply not require FDA approval before drugs are released to the market. That would result in much cheaper drugs, but it might have other consequences as well.

Yeah! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42436739)

I cant wait to give this to my cattle in an uncontrolled fashon!

Re:Yeah! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437397)

Could skip the middle man and just raise panda bears as live stocks... If they don't reproduce well, clone them! ;)
 

sounds like that deep blue sea movie (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about a year and a half ago | (#42436747)

sounds like that deep blue sea movie

Re:sounds like that deep blue sea movie (1)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437043)

sounds like that deep blue sea movie

Except pandas are mammals, haven't defied the laws of physics, done things that are bio-mechanically impossible, and certainly don't kill enough people on a regular basis.

Plus I didn't see anything about LL Cool J cooking eggs in TFS.

But other than that it's just like it.

Or that other obligatory reference: (5, Funny)

rmdingler (1955220) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437453)

Plus there's this: Panda walks into a bar, sits down, and orders a sandwich. He eats the sandwich, pulls out a gun, and shoots the waiter dead. He stands up to go and the bartender yells, "What the hell? You shot my waiter and now you're leaving without paying for that sandwich." The panda yells back over his shoulder, "I'm a Panda. Look it up." Sure enough, the bartender's Merriam-Webster said, "A tree-dwelling marsupial of Asian origin, characterized by distinctive black and white coloring. Eats shoots and leaves."

creating resilient superbugs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42436765)

Use of this antibiotic on a large scale might help extinct the panda's rather than conserve them, when those superbugs become resilient to the antibiotic...

Re:creating resilient superbugs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437905)

Panda's have no use otherwise. They don't reproduce, they don't hunt other prey, their leaf eating doesn't spread the shoot's seeds, and they're not prime food for another species...

Until they become resistant to that, too... (1)

Myria (562655) | about a year and a half ago | (#42436773)

It seems as though we are rapidly approaching the day in which diseases have evolved to be resistant to any molecule we can come up with that doesn't also kill the host.

Re:Until they become resistant to that, too... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42436873)

And then pandas will most certainly go extinct!

Re:Until they become resistant to that, too... (4, Insightful)

Tablizer (95088) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437033)

It may be that Pandas are not common enough for most microbes in the area to evolve immunities to its defenses. It's roughly comparable to turtle shells: they work against run-of-the-mill predators, but a few predators have evolved solutions for getting at the turtle meat and have made it a staple of their diet.

Another analogy is a sports team that uses a non-traditional offense: too few teams are prepared for it such that it's effective. However, if it becomes wide-spread or championship-bound teams use it, then the competition has the chance or motivation to learn how to work around it, and the "special" offense loses its punch and is no longer special. It thus creates a kind of round-robbin rotation of strategies over time.

Or as Shark Lincoln once said, you can fool some of the predators all the time, or all the predators some of the time, but you can't fool all of the predators all of the time.

Re:Until they become resistant to that, too... (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437459)

Nicely done. Already posted cleverly so I come with props and not points.

Hopefully (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42436777)

Hopefully doctors over-prescribe antibiotics based on this as well. Mothers across the country can keep them up in their medicine to self-medicate their kids. Should have no problem gaining a nice stockpile because they ALWAYS prescribe more antibiotics than you really need. They intend for you to keep the extra for use at the first sign of a runny nose.

Remember folks, stop taking your antibiotics as soon as you start feeling better.

You know I got into a fucking fight with my stupid wife the other night because she actually believed the shit I just wrote? I fight over 5 antibiotic pills. I demanded she make our 6 year old take them. She insisted it was not necessary. At this point, I am told she was given the pills. I suspect they both lie. Whatever. They want to implode their lives I'll go find an escort to fuck. What do I care...

But there's one big problem (1)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | about a year and a half ago | (#42436791)

Pandas are really, really tasty!

Re:But there's one big problem (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42436927)

Mmm, Finger Ling-Ling Good!

How is this good news for pandas? (2)

bunyip (17018) | about a year and a half ago | (#42436877)

Panda blood kills microbes. So, how soon before the black market starts selling powdered panda parts?

Re:How is this good news for pandas? (2)

iggymanz (596061) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437127)

Panda furs are already worth $60,000 to $90,000 on the black market

Re:How is this good news for pandas? (1)

rjr162 (69736) | about a year ago | (#42438417)

Hell now either Charlie Sheen wasn't too far off with his tiger blood or he'll have a new animal to freak out about...

Biological Panda Secrets (3, Funny)

guttentag (313541) | about a year and a half ago | (#42436911)

So it turns out Panda DNA contains great biological secrets? No wonder they often refuse to mate in captivity, and when they do the offspring dies quickly. They're afraid we'll see them bestowing the magic on their young, and their secret will be out.

a powerful antibody in panda blood? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42436943)

cool, let's kill them all !

blood! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42436953)

Blood blood! I will suck their blood!
--chupacabras

Re:blood! (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437695)

Blood blood! I will suck their blood!
--chupacabras

Do you mean chupapandas?

Guaranteed Extinct Within 5 Years (5, Insightful)

Crypto Gnome (651401) | about a year and a half ago | (#42436981)

Humanity (collectively) has consistently proven itself to be incapable of long-range action (planning and forethought), even the rumor that fresh panda-blood will cure *anything* will be the nail in the coffin for these bamboo eating cuddly freaks.

Re:Guaranteed Extinct Within 5 Years (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437053)

Um, yeah. Pastuer's work with cattle to produce the Anthrax Vaccine, didn't really wipe out the cattle. Just sayin'

Re:Guaranteed Extinct Within 5 Years (1)

Anubis IV (1279820) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437353)

You managed to cram in a lot of incorrectness in such a short post.

On the logical front, using an animal in an experiment and discovering that an animal has a desirable trait are two very different things. For instance, if I used a sick rat to demonstrate that penicillin can cure some illness, we wouldn't expect the desirability of rats to go up, though we might expect that to happen for penicillin. In contrast, discovering that an animal has something akin to a cure-all in its blood will increase the desirability for that animal in some circles. In the case of "Pastuer", cattle didn't possess a cure-all; they were merely lab animals he used, so it's no surprise that there wasn't greater demand for them.

On the factual front, I'm guessing that cattle were being bred, milked, and consumed en masse at the time of Pasteur, so they were never in any danger of going extinct in the first place. Again, that stands in contrast with pandas, which, despite our best efforts, are only breeding on rare occasion.

And on the common sense front, considering most pandas live in a country where poachers kill tigers for their rumored-to-be aphrodisiac penises, I can't blame someone for thinking pandas may be in more trouble living there. Which isn't to suggest that everyone holds to those views, merely that it only takes a few people who do in order for there to be a problem with a population that numbers in the low thousands.

Re:Guaranteed Extinct Within 5 Years (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437401)

You sir, have managed to ignore an economic fact in your post. The benefactors of any of these findings will be pharmaceutical companies. And as we all know, they love their cash flow. The especially love it if they can figure out a way to cheaply make the meds and charge the proverbial "arm and a leg" for them. This likely means synthesizing any findings to keep the costs down. Ergo - no Pandas where harmed in the making of this film - which airs at 11.

Re:Guaranteed Extinct Within 5 Years (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437551)

Agreed, panda's in the wild are foct, but if the research proves out, the antibodies can only be manufactured by a Panda, and it actually saves a few people, they'll be ag subsidies for my Panda Farm until the World looks level.

Re:Guaranteed Extinct Within 5 Years (1)

guises (2423402) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437385)

Pastuer's anthrax vaccine did not require killing the cows, he just needed some of the bacteria. This is a poor example. Better examples:

A rumor that rhino horns are a curative has lead to the near-extinction of black rhinos, and white rhinos aren't doing so well either.

Silphion was a plant with genuine contraceptive properties that was driven to extinction after those properties were discovered.

Contrapositve example:

Sex, drugs, and rock and roll - bad and plentiful.

Why so certain about the negative? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437393)

Frodo: It's a pity Bilbo didn't kill him when he had the chance.
Gandalf: Pity? It was pity that stayed Bilbo's hand. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that Gollum has some part to play yet, for good or ill before this is over. The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many. - "Lord of the Rings"

Re:Guaranteed Extinct Within 5 Years (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437609)

I don't know, panda blood only kills superbugs. If it caused erections then they'd be doomed for sure.

Re:Guaranteed Extinct Within 5 Years (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42438141)

Virginia opposums have a compound that works great as an anti-venom, and now pandas are found with a decent antibiotic. Too bad about the Tasmanian tiger though, or we might have had a possible cure to aging too.

Not sure about opposums, but it's hard to say no to a panda. [youtube.com]

Re:Guaranteed Extinct Within 5 Years (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42438575)

Humanity (collectively) has consistently proven itself to be incapable of long-range action (planning and forethought), even the rumor that fresh panda-blood will cure *anything* will be the nail in the coffin for these bamboo eating cuddly freaks.

Humans have driven quite a few species to extinction, but with regards to Pandas? They would have been extinct already had it not been for us. There are two wildly successful evolutionary traits that a species can have: it can be tasty to humans (cattle, chicken, pork are not going excting anytime soon. That may suck for the individual, but the species survival is guaranteed), or it can be cute to humans (dogs and cats aren't going to go extinct anytime soon). Pandas fall into the second category.

That creature's sole diet consists of a bamboo that grows in a very limited area, so they can't expand their habitat. The bamboo is very low in nutrients, so they need to eat constantly. The female's window of reproduction lasts only two days a year. Assuming they find a partner in that small window, male pandas often can't succeed in copulating. They don't instinctively know how to mate, and early captivity pandas who never saw mating in the wild, would try to hump females ears and feet. They actually show videos of mating pandas to pandas in captivity to help them out with that. Also to try to get them in the mood. They have an extremely low interest in sex. So, we feed viagra to those captive pandas (I shit you not). Also, their penis size is disproportionally small, which results in difficulties with insertion (yes, that small. It's 1/4 of an inch).

Assuming a successful pregnancy and birth, it turns out the female only has enough milk for one cub, because unlike other bears, they do not have fat stores that can be converted into large quantities of milk. So the female will choose one of the cubs, and allow any others to die. In captivity, if multiple cubs are born, the cubs are fed some cow milk to supplement their diet, and they switch off the cub with the mother periodically, so the mother thinks she's only taking care of one. The cubs are born toothless and blind, and in the wild the mother leaves the cub alone, defenseless, for 3 to 4 hours every day so she can go feed.

It is amazing that the species survived this long. The most fascinating thing about this article is that pandas actually have something which is evolutionarily advantageous. And you don't need to worry, they're not going anywhere. Now they're not just cute, they're also useful. We'll continue helping this weird creature breed as a result. Now at least I think there's a good reason to do so. My previous stance was that anything this ill-fitted to survive really shouldn't. Extinction of species is perfectly natural. The only thing we need to be careful of is to not cause those extinctions ourselves. We've essentially gotten powerful and numerous enough to do some serious damage, so we need to watch our hunting numbers, or the destruction of entire habitats. Pandas are one example that is simply not our fault, though.

Overuse Leading to Better Superbugs (1)

mk1004 (2488060) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437027)

Wow, we need this right now to feed all of our livestock. Maximize profits!

Serious question: (1)

maeka (518272) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437031)

Ok, so we've isolated the compound. Why do we need the Pandas now?

Re:Serious question: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437435)

Cloned pandas in Blade-style blood milking factories might be the easiest method of production.

Re:Serious question: (1)

bunratty (545641) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437617)

All we really need is the DNA sequence so we can splice it into bacteria or algae. Maybe in a few years we'll have designer babies with custom gene sequences such as the one that produces this substance.

Re:Serious question: (3, Funny)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437605)

Ok, so we've isolated the compound. Why do we need the Pandas now?

To prepare for the next big Pandemy, of course!

Re:Serious question: (1)

MisterSquid (231834) | about a year ago | (#42438597)

Ok, so we've isolated the compound. Why do we need the Pandas now?

To prepare for the next big Pandemy, of course!

Now you've done it. You've gone ahead and opened up a Panda-ora's box.

correct word (1)

Faux_Pseudo (141152) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437037)

I believe that should be cathelicidin-AM. I also believe we have found another excuse to hasten the extinction of the panda.

Another one bites the dust (1)

Meneth (872868) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437051)

Another antibiotic. Any guesses on how long it will take for resistances to evolve?

Re:Another one bites the dust (1)

bunratty (545641) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437567)

As soon as it is prescribed for the wrong reasons, and as soon as patients do not take the full prescription. I'd give it a few days after coming on the market.

Evolving resistance (question) (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437077)

The compound also worked extremely quickly, killing off strains of bacteria in just an hour, while conventional antibiotics needed six.

Will those strains of bacteria also evolve six times quicker due to the greater selection pressure?

Re:Evolving resistance (question) (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437361)

Resistance does not "evolve" despite what everyone presumes, or has been taught.

The resistant bacteria already exist and thrive and grow in the presence of the antibiotic because all their nonresistant brethren are no longer around... usually the resistant bacteria are deficient in other ways which is why they don't thrive outside of very limited, restricted environments, such as hospitals where antibiotics are employed constantly.

No new genetic material is being created and it never will be.

Mutations! (2)

wfstanle (1188751) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437601)

"No new genetic material is being created and it never will be."

Wrong! Mutations create new genetic material all the time. Most of the time, mutations are harmful but occasionally a mutation is helpful to that organism. If a new mutation allows an organism to be better adapted to its environment, that gene will be selected for. Soon, much of the population will have that gene. It's simple evolution.

Irony for the Chinese? (1)

HockeyPuck (141947) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437095)

So the Chinese are well known for their herbal and alternative medicines in which they consume various plants, herbs, minerals and yes animals for all sorts of cures....

Now they're being told that their national symbol is a source of medical healing...

What do they do?

Re:Irony for the Chinese? (1)

WWJohnBrowningDo (2792397) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437275)

It used to be the case that killing a panda in China would get you the death penalty [wwfchina.org] . But then the law was changed 1997 and now it's a measly 10 years in jail.

Re:Irony for the Chinese? (1)

PPH (736903) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437637)

So, we'll export them and kill them here.

Death penalty for killing tigers? Watch the Chinese scream about not being able to get their boner medicine.

Time to kill a whole lot of pandas... (1)

Ugmo (36922) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437099)

Time to kill a whole lot of pandas and collect their blood to extract the antibiotics.

Not Antibodies (5, Informative)

Joe Torres (939784) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437105)

Cathelicin-AM is an antimicrobial peptide not an antibody.

I just skimmed the paper (abstract: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22101189 [nih.gov] ), but it seems that the group was the first to find out that pandas produce this type of antimicrobial peptide (they are produced by other mammals and it seems that the sequence is similar to that of dogs). The peptide seems to be effective against multiple types of bacteria (Gram positive and Gram negative) and a couple strains of fungi. The researchers only tested the peptide in vitro, so it probably isn't known if purified peptide will be effective in vivo (they reported that it showed little lysis of human red blood cells though).

TL/DR: Don't pressure your doctor into giving you panda blood when you get sick.

Re:Not Antibodies (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437157)

TL/DR: Don't pressure your doctor into giving you panda blood when you get sick.

To be more precise, this is not a suitable cover story to obtain panda blood.

Practical value (1)

ChromeAeonium (1026952) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437129)

I've seen people argue that letting things go extinct because they can't compete with man made environmental destruction, hunting, ect. is no problem because it is the natural order and such species do not serve a purpose. Funny how things turn out.

Re:Practical value (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437733)

imagine the irony if human blood became a valuable commodity

Re:Practical value (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42438335)

It's already important. http://www.redcrossblood.org/make-donation

Re:Practical value (2)

crutchy (1949900) | about a year ago | (#42438405)

important yes, but commodities are bought and sold, not donated

Re:Practical value (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42438735)

I've seen people argue that letting things go extinct because they can't compete with man made environmental destruction, hunting, ect. is no problem because it is the natural order and such species do not serve a purpose. Funny how things turn out.

Pandas are not going extinct because they can't compete with man-made environmental destruction. Pandas are going extinct because they are the single most ill-fitted species to live that ever evolved. This is the first damn thing I ever saw that is advantageous to them...they're actually resistant to microbial infection. Holy crap!

Other than that, if humans had not evolved, Pandas would already be extinct. We're not ones that caused the problem, we're the ones that kept them alive. Turns out they have one other evolutionarily advantageous trait: they are cute to humans.

Think of the cowrs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437135)

It's my understanding that crows can cure themselves of cancer. Maybe check that blood out too. I love crows, but I hear they're not too popular in Indiana.

Ive found (1)

nimbius (983462) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437155)

consuming Pandas milk as well to be quite the natural elixir.

--Roy E. Brisby, CEO
Brisby Land.

Re:Ive found (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437747)

i tried convincing my wife that my semen would cure all her ills

Pandacea? (1)

Slicebo (221580) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437207)

(nt)

Re:Pandacea? (1)

PPH (736903) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437675)

Pandemic!

Delicious. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437255)

I love the delicious taste of panda blood.

I bet hyenas (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42437339)

I bet hyenas have antibiotics too.

Re:I bet hyenas (2)

WGFCrafty (1062506) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437781)

I bet hyenas have antibiotics too.

Almost. It's in their enterological system. That is why i use hyena farts. Very hard to capture, but it doesn't hurt the animal. Well, maybe emotionally.

Mommy when did Pandas go extinct? (0)

future assassin (639396) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437431)

Son it was announce on Slashdot on Monday December 31, @02:27PM

Put it in handsoap by itself while you're at it. (2)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437437)

Just remember, in order to maximize the speed at which bacteria adapt, only give this out by itself, and not in combination with other antibiotics, so nothing has to have two or more miraculous and simultaneous adaptations.

One adaptation is all we can reasonably expect, so make sure it's only used by itself lest bacteria never adapt.

great solution for protecting pandas (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about a year and a half ago | (#42437715)

"i know... lets cut them up and see what we can use their blood for... oh wow the blood can be a commodity for use in medicine... poachers sure don't have any reason to kill them now! this is pure genius"

Not just Pandas (4, Informative)

SurlyJest (1044344) | about a year and a half ago | (#42438017)

This isn't likely to have much effect on the survival of the Panda species - for one, a peptide is probably fairly easy to synthesize or produce in some other living system via genetic engineering if it is worth doing so.

Most of all, though - this isn't especially new or restricted to Pandas. Peptide cathelicidins are apparently found in every species they've been looked for, including at least some plants. See http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/mesh/68054804/ [nih.gov] for a summary search on this.

It remains to be seen if this is a particularly potent member of the general class or just another more or less interesting data point.

why don't humans have strong anti-bacterials ? (1)

cats-paw (34890) | about a year and a half ago | (#42438087)

I'm reminded of the fact that komodo dragons have a strong anti-bacterial chemical due to the biome in their mouths which is used to infect prey so they'll get sick and die.

obviously a specialized case.

as deadly as bacterial infections have been to humans throughout history, it's somewhat confusing that we don't have a more potent biochemical arsenal.

MEH (1)

Brett Buck (811747) | about a year and a half ago | (#42438103)

Panda blood works OK, by I prefer golden lion tamarind placenta, with a dash of powdered black rhino horn and an eye of newt chaser.

possible scenario (1)

kdemetter (965669) | about a year and a half ago | (#42438115)

1. We manufacture this cathelicin-AM , to create very powerful antibiotics
2. People start taking the antibiotics, specificaly to counter resistant super bacteria infections
3. cathelicin-AM kills of all the super bacteria, except some super super bacteria , which now has free reign since all the competition is destroyed
4. cathelicin-AM resistant bacteria kill off 90 % of the panda population

a few things (4, Informative)

Rutulian (171771) | about a year ago | (#42438377)

The summary and medicaldaily article are fairly horrid, so here is the abstract [nih.gov] of the research article. The full article is also available for those who have access.

Misstatements of the posted summary/article,
1) Discovery is of a new antibiotic (an antimicrobial peptide), not antibody.
2) Statement in the article: "They cause much less drug resistance of microbes than conventional antibiotics.", referring to antimicrobial peptides is a ridiculous statement not substantiated by anything.
3) The "kinetics" of the antimicrobial activity, as published, is not particularly useful for determining efficacy in the clinic. Since the drug they compared against, clindamycin, is completely different in every way from their peptide, it doesn't really say anything at all. They probably screened a number of antibiotics for this "test" and cherry-picked this result to highlight their find.
4) Use of the term "conventional antibiotic" is misleading. This is a new member of a class of antibiotics (antimicrobial peptides) that are relative newcomers to the field, but is otherwise just another antibiotic. It is not a new mechanism of action, biosynthetic origin, class of molecule, or anything like that. In other words, it is about as conventional as they come, but perhaps useful because we do and will continue to need new antibiotics.

For anybody who is interested, here is an open access [plosone.org] article on the subject of newly discovered mammalian antimicrobial peptides as potential new antibiotics.

market invisible hand will wreck it (1)

manu0601 (2221348) | about a year ago | (#42438637)

Yes, it will work, therefore it will be given on large scale to cattle, and it will be done whether cattle is sick or not, because it is easier to just add it to cattle food. Fungus and bacteria in cattle gut will become resistant, and will move to human. This is what happened for previous antibiotics.

Great. Chinese panda blood farming (1)

davesag (140186) | about a year ago | (#42438701)

If this is true, (or even just believed to be true,) then I feel sorry for the forthcoming generations of pandas who'll literally be being hung out to dry by this news. Poor bloody pandas.

And it tastes great, too! (1)

Gumbercules!! (1158841) | about a year ago | (#42438705)

Especially mixed with a little vodka!

Sounds Intriguing, But... (1)

cstacy (534252) | about a year ago | (#42438717)

Just can't get over the blue skin. Blue is OK on blueberries, not meat.
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