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Teens Drug Parents To Get Web Access

samzenpus posted about a year and a half ago | from the grounded-for-life dept.

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linuxwrangler writes "Two teens are behind bars after hatching a plan that involved drugging milkshakes they gave to the parents of one of the kids. The parents were suspicious after waking groggy the next day, and used a home drug-test on one of the remaining drinks. The teens came up with the plan in order to avoid their 10pm Internet curfew."

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505 comments

My milkshake (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471493)

brings all the web to the night, damn right.

Wow (5, Interesting)

Murdoch5 (1563847) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471501)

She drugs her parents to surf the web......... I'm guessing video games will get blamed for this.

Re:Wow (4, Funny)

slashmydots (2189826) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471575)

I believe the article did in fact say that the parents failed their saving throws against poison so indeed, it was based on DDO.

Re:Wow (5, Funny)

sgt scrub (869860) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471789)

Kids that like DDO games AND give you free drugs?!? I'm checking the hospital. They obviously switched their kid with mine.

Re:Wow (3, Funny)

klingers48 (968406) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471853)

Well the kid did roll for initiative.

I blame genetics. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471595)

Sociopathic tendencies seem to be genetic, and there is certainly plenty of selective pressure in favor of these traits in the modern day.

Re:Wow (1)

screwdriver (691980) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471605)

Did you watch the video? Yes, they are blaming video games.

Re:Wow (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471775)

I watched the video and did not hear anyone blame video games.

However, there is a mention of video games by neighbor Debbie Castaneda who debuts at 1:47.

Debbie explains that she in fact can imagine that teenagers would go to such lengths to use the internet because she has experienced her 9 year old grandson making up stories to go home and play videos games.

But at best the assertion is that the internet is as seductive to a teenage girl as video games are to a 9 year old boy; not that video games influenced the girls to drug the parents.

Re:Wow (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471919)

Kids making up lies to be able to do or get something they want? That sure NEVER happened before Video Games!

Re:Wow (4, Insightful)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471721)

I'm guessing video games will get blamed for this.

Of course. That and milk.

Re:Wow (4, Funny)

klingers48 (968406) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471833)

Beware the twin evils of the electronic entertainment industry and dairy industry consortiums....

Re:Wow (1)

yamum (893083) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472031)

Of course. That and milk.

Just the permeate, mind

This should be interesting... (5, Funny)

Stoutlimb (143245) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471525)

Any bets they will get web access in the juvenile detention centre?

Perhaps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471601)

But I sincerely doubt they'll have much choice in when they can use it.

Re:This should be interesting... (2)

SteveFoerster (136027) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471687)

They can't even keep heroin out of prisons, how hard can it be to sneak a mobile phone in there?

Re:This should be interesting... (1)

tibman (623933) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472087)

Charging it sounds like a problem though.

Only a quarter of the shake (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471557)

Of course, if they had drank the entire milkshake, there would have been no surprise at next-day grogginess!

I wonder what feels worse (5, Interesting)

Nyder (754090) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471571)

the groggy feeling of being drugged the night before, or that knowing your daughter doesn't have a problem doing stuff like this to you.

Re:I wonder what feels worse (5, Insightful)

mark-t (151149) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471621)

The latter. No contest.

Re:I wonder what feels worse (1)

tibit (1762298) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471957)

It's not interesting, it's not funny, it's really not much at all :(
Groggy vs. betrayed. Yeah, tough pick. Like, DUH.

A 10pm internet curfew? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471583)

Who here's betting her parents were just control freaks?

And, seriously, they just put their kid behind bars. I bet they think that'll teach 'em.

Obviously the reaction was excessive, but what's really going on here?

I feel like we don't have all the details.

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (5, Insightful)

shentino (1139071) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471623)

Control freak parents or not the kids were under their roof so their word was law.

It's been that way ever since the days of cave men.

If the kids don't like those rules they should get jobs and earn some of their own freedom.

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (5, Insightful)

Omnifarious (11933) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471673)

Control freak parents or not the kids were under their roof so their word was law.

Well, there are definitely limits there. But imposing a 22:00 Internet curfew is well within the bounds.

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471797)

It is and probably shouldn't be.

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (5, Insightful)

arkane1234 (457605) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472199)

says an anonymous 12 year old ;)

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (4, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471829)

The problem is though, controlling a child in silly ways like an "internet curfew" when they are teenagers isn't productive and leads to deeper problems.

Of course there are times to be firm and times to be unyielding, namely when a child's safety is at stake. But silly things like an "internet curfew" will simply lead to the kid resenting their parents.

I think back to when I was in college, those with very strict and controlling parents usually ended up being the kids who drank heavily and skipped class and ended up having strained relations with their family. On the other hand, those with parents who were more rational and let their kids realize that staying up until 4 AM on the phone on weeknights lead to a miserable school day the next day rather than imposing a "phone curfew" ended up being more responsible.

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471893)

I think back to when I was in college, those with very strict and controlling parents usually ended up being the kids who drank heavily and skipped class and ended up having strained relations with their family. On the other hand, those with parents who were more rational and let their kids realize that staying up until 4 AM on the phone on weeknights lead to a miserable school day the next day rather than imposing a "phone curfew" ended up being more responsible.

I'm so glad you took the time out of your busy college schedule to interview each person you interacted with and determine how their parents brought them up as well as carefully studying them while in school to find and correlate their upbringing to their behavior in college.

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42472011)

A lot of people who go to state schools end up going with a lot of their highschool classmates (and those of rival schools nearby). So they know the backstories of a lot of their college classmates.

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (2)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472075)

I went to a college fairly close (although far enough away that most students got apartments rather than live at home) to my high school to get my basic education requirements out of the way before transferring to a state college for my major. Because of that I knew a lot of people because I'd gone to high school with them (and Jr. High, and middle school, and elementary school) and so yes, I knew them and knew which ones had overly strict parents and which ones didn't. And naturally being at college I knew which ones got wasted every night and which ones didn't.

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471923)

um, no.

it's 10, go to bed.

go. to. bed.

no, you can't surf the internet. no, you can't stay up texting.

go. to. bed.

reasonable.

(ironic captcha: syringes)

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (2, Insightful)

reub2000 (705806) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471961)

It's a bedtime. Who didn't have that when they where a child?

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42472179)

Some of these brats without kids saying curfews don't matter didn't.... now look at em! Waxing intellectual and thinking it takes effort to own a cat. Who knew it was so easy to be a parent! Pfffffft... Curfews are for uptight jerkwads! Stay up late and develop poor sleeping habits like the variety of disheveled hipsters around you!

Clue: you can't get a serious job because you show up late. Serious parents that raise winners take the hard route of actually setting rules and enforcing them to habituate good choices.

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (4, Insightful)

mysidia (191772) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471981)

The problem is though, controlling a child in silly ways like an "internet curfew" when they are teenagers isn't productive and leads to deeper problems.

It isn't out of the line, if the kid tends to stay up all ours of the night playing online. Or their school work suffers because they're sleepy in the morning.

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (0)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472041)

Exactly. And THAT should be the punishment. If someone can stay up until 5 AM playing WoW and still end up doing well in school, what's the problem? If they're tired in the morning and end up having a horrible day because of it, chances are they're going to go to bed earlier so they don't get tired.

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (2)

JohnnyComeLately (725958) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472189)

That's horrible logic. Parents are there to set the standards, provide an example and when appropriate hold children accountable. Your logic is akin to letting your 2 year old reach for the stove, because, "If they're fire proof, they wont burn. And if they burn, well, they wont do that again."

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472001)

SIlly things like an internet curfew? how silly is that, let little betsy stay up till 2AM every single day fucking off on facebook then OMG how did she ever fail school and send off all those naked mirror pics to her boyfriend who dumped her when she got pregnant at age 15

stupid god damned parents!

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (1)

upuv (1201447) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472139)

A 10pm internet curfew leads to deeper problems?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a minor ( Assuming local laws in your area define = 16 as a minor. ) having a curfew of any kind of 10pm. TV off, Computer off, phone off, lights off, get to bed, in your own house.

My parents kicked my ass when I wasn't in bed by then. I turned out just fine. No criminal record, no traffic violations, have a great job, travel the world, I have never struck another person in anger, I did smoke but I quit. So am I a statistical anomaly? Should I be a raving drunk on meth because I wasn't able to watch TV and talk on the phone after 10pm ( No Internet when I was a kid )?

I'm basically calling BS on the line it "isn't productive". It's damn well is productive. Teenagers need 9-10 hours of sleep a day. Only as adults do we start to need less. If you are sleep deprived your brain does not function at full capacity. You are harming your children if you enable / encourage them to stay up late on a regular basis. This by the way is a science fact. Go ahead look it up.

Re:A 10pm internet curfew? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471705)

Obviously the reaction was sociopathic

Fixed that for you.

Freedom (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471599)

While I don't think this was a smart move (probably very dumb anyway) as there were probably other ways to subvert authority I don't think parents or government should have the authority or control they do. It's not right. It's not justified. It just is. The assumption that parents/police/government know best is wrong.

Re:Freedom (4, Insightful)

mark-t (151149) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471645)

It's not right for a parent to adjudicate who is allowed to use the Internet that *THEY* pay for?

Really, if the kid wants their own internet, they should get themselves emancipated and move out.

Re:Freedom (1)

reve_etrange (2377702) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471807)

Sure, but would you want to throw your kid into juvenile justice just because of some dumb stunt?

Re:Freedom (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471891)

Drugging people is serious. Please don't become a parent...

Re:Freedom (1)

mark-t (151149) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471969)

For certain very serious crimes, such as this one (probably ranking just below premeditated attempted murder), it doesn't matter. The decision to drop charges for certain crimes such as this rests on the subjective judgement of the prosecuting attorney. The parents can only request charges be dropped. If the prosecuting attorney disagrees, the charges stand. It will still be taken into consideration in court, however, and could even result in a lighter or postponed sentence, especially if the kids seem to show some sense of remorse for what they did.

Re:Freedom (1)

SteveFoerster (136027) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471697)

Sorry, but if you don't like it, move out of their basement.

Re:Freedom (1)

ImprovOmega (744717) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472131)

The assumption that parents/police/government know best is wrong.

Obvious troll is obvious.

wow... horrible parents (-1, Troll)

bostonsysadmin (2776707) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471625)

It was only sleeping medicine, jesus... they acted like their kid and her friend slipped them cyanide. Why the hell would they have their child arrested? That is not exactly awesome for a kid's career and life... not exactly what I would do if she was my child.

Re:wow... horrible parents (5, Insightful)

Omnifarious (11933) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471711)

They fell asleep and were groggy the next day from 1/4 of the milkshake. Suppose they'd drunk the whole thing. They might be dead by now. Sorry, but I can't side with the kids on this. While I doubt the juvenile justice system is going to do them much good, what they did is definitely outside the bounds of acceptable behavior and should be considered criminal.

If I were the parents, I'd wait until they were convicted, then discuss sentencing options and see about making sure the harm is minimized. They deserve a really good scare and to see just how coldly the system can treat them for their incredibly outrageous and entitled behavior.

If they meant to scare them, they took it too far. (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471823)

They fell asleep and were groggy the next day from 1/4 of the milkshake. Suppose they'd drunk the whole thing.

I am not a doctor, but all medications come in varying dosages. We don't exactly know the whole story here, so stop making assumptions.

If I were the parents, I wouldn't have had my own children arrested, or put them in a position to be arrested. I would have handled the situation privately and discretely, disciplining as necessary. Even a misdemeanor fucks up your future these days, I had parents that understood this when I did dumb things growing up. You're a fool if you think even the juvenile system in this country is capable of any sort of rehabilitation, and certainly is capable of much less than that available from a couple of loving parents.

The parents were being vindictive, that's the only explanation. Or they're downright retarded and should be arrested for child endangerment.

My bet here is that something was seriously wrong in this household, and the teen was acting out in the only way she knew how.

Re:If they meant to scare them, they took it too f (5, Insightful)

Hartree (191324) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471987)

"I am not a doctor"

It shows.

The line between a dose that will reliably put a random person out against their will and what can shut down breathing or perhaps cause vomit aspiration is famously thin when you don't know about drug interactions, medical conditions, if they drank a couple beers on the way home, etc. etc.

If they'd drank the whole thing, maybe they'd have been alright, but then again maybe not.

Re:If they meant to scare them, they took it too f (1)

mysidia (191772) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472015)

If I were the parents, I wouldn't have had my own children arrested, or put them in a position to be arrested.

What about the kid involved who was not their child?

Refraining from reporting a crime is a bad idea. One of the major restraints against crime is the risk of getting caught and penalized.

Re:If they meant to scare them, they took it too f (3, Insightful)

jklovanc (1603149) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472053)

I am not a doctor, but all medications come in varying dosages. We don't exactly know the whole story here, so stop making assumptions.

My bet here is that something was seriously wrong in this household, and the teen was acting out in the only way she knew how.

It seems funny how you can assume that " the teen was acting out in the only way she knew how" based on the girl drugging the parents but not that the dosage in the shake might have been lethal based on the effect of 1/4 of the dose. If you are against assumptions the you are against all assumptions. Sorry but you can not pick and choose.

The parents were being vindictive, that's the only explanation.

Yet another assumption. Another explanation might be they were great parents at the end of their rope with a daughter who has no boundaries. We do not know the whole story..

Re:If they meant to scare them, they took it too f (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42472125)

Even a misdemeanor fucks up your future these days

Precisely. These idiots are condemning their daughter to a lifetime of poverty and misery. Unless she's very lucky, she will now find herself permanently cut off from any hope of obtaining decent employment or even going to college. They've taken her future and flushed it down the toilet because they're ignorant and naive.

You're a fool if you think even the juvenile system in this country is capable of any sort of rehabilitation

Indeed. Nothing good will come of their daughter's imprisonment and conviction. Those who've been convicted of a crime in the United States are now members of a permanent underclass. There are no more second chances and electronic records never go away and follow you everywhere for the rest of your life. After this, it will take something of a minor miracle for her to escape a future filled with poverty and misery.

Re:wow... horrible parents (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471715)

It was only sleeping medicine, jesus... they acted like their kid and her friend slipped them cyanide.

What if one of them decided to drive to the corner store?
What if one of them decided to have a glass of wine before bed... maybe a cold beer?
What if they actually finished the shakes?
What if the parents are taking conflicting prescriptions?
What if they were taking the same prescription meds they were slipped?
What if one of them was allergic to the drug?

I could continue, but I think you can understand what the problem is.

Still horrible parenting (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471855)

But, you apparently still think that the kids should've been arrested / permanently condemned for this?

This'll never come off their records. This should have been handled at home after the drug test came back positive.

What the fuck kind of parents are you people?

Re:Still horrible parenting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471965)

What the fuck kind of parents are you people?

Completely reasonable ones hoping YOU never have kids.

Re:Still horrible parenting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471975)

Yes.

Re:Still horrible parenting (2)

jklovanc (1603149) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472127)

Ever heard of a sealed or expunged juvenile file? As ling as it is handled in juvenile court it may disappear. There may be hoops to jump through but if this is the only mark on their record when they tirn 18 it will probably go away.

What the fuck kind of parents are you people?

Parents who hold teenagers responsible for activities that would kill. There is a line between mischief and harm and the teenagers went very far across it. Do you really believe that anyone over 13 doesn't know that overdoses can kill?

Re:Still horrible parenting (5, Informative)

Bill_the_Engineer (772575) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472149)

But, you apparently still think that the kids should've been arrested / permanently condemned for this?

Fuck yea. This is not bad behavior - this is sociopathic behavior. Anyway they will be punished as a juvenile so the consequences aren't as permanent as you are trying to make it out to be. Certainly not as permanent as allowing this sociopathic behavior to get worse.

What if the parents did nothing and a couple of years later their or their neighbor's kid does something that kills or seriously injures someone? If you found out that the parents allowed this action to go unchecked/unreported then you would be screaming about how irresponsible the parents were and how they should be held accountable for their child's actions.

The parents did good. They were being parents. Being a parent is not always trying to be your child's best friend - it's doing what is best for your child regardless how unpopular it makes you feel.

Re:wow... horrible parents (2, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471883)

Except for the fact that you don't have your kid arrested.

Yeah, there's blame on both sides of the aisle. Yes, it was a pretty stupid thing to do to your parents, yes it was dangerous, reckless even. But to take it to court is basically to ensure that your kids have no future. Either because they turn to a life of crime after being released from jail (the US "justice" system isn't designed to provide for a bright future after release) or they become basically unemployable and live a life of poverty due to a criminal record.

There is absolutely nothing good that can come out of this situation.

Re:wow... horrible parents (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42472003)

If you think this type of thing will destroy their future then you are a fool. I know people with felony convictions that have had government jobs where they are in charge of departments. In reality, about the only type of conviction that will destroy a person's life is a sex offender one. they have to register everywhere they go, oftentimes have strange restrictions on where they live and what they can do. Misdemeanors and most felonies won't do it.

Re:wow... horrible parents (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472151)

...Except for the fact that going to prison is going to surround you with nothing but bad influences (at least in the US). What ends up happening in the US is:

A) Person is convicted for a rather minor crime

B) That person makes connections in prison with other inmates

C) When that person is released X months later, they are understandably going to have lost a lot of respect of their peers and friendships/relationships will be strained

D) With a lack of pre-prison relationships, that person connects with the people they had connections with in prison that have already been released

E) Eventually, the person gets involved in criminal activity with their new friendships

F) The criminal activity results in them being convicted again and sent back to prison and so the cycle starts over again.

It is no wonder that nearly 63% of all those who are released from prison are arrested again within 3 years in the US. ( http://www.nij.gov/topics/corrections/recidivism/welcome.htm [nij.gov] )

Re:wow... horrible parents (2)

tibit (1762298) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472025)

To say that the kids will have no future is an exaggeration, but the parents here are basically naive and it's
a common kind of naivete. I remember a story where the parent thought that their kid making out while under 16
with their friend was something that the child services would best take care of. Result: statutory rape charges
and a sexual offender record for the rest of kids' lives.

I think everyone should go to state or even federal prison for a week. It should be akin to compulsory civics lesson.
Things would change real quick once that policy was in place. First of all, adults wouldn't be so fucking naive.

Re:wow... horrible parents (1)

tibit (1762298) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471991)

It's always those "what if" questions that drive me mad.
Look, Anonymous Coward, if a drugged parent went to the store, fell asleep, and killed someone,
the kids would be charged with manslaughter. The way things are, none of that happened. Mmkay?
Let the punishment fit the crime and all that jazz. You don't punish people for what may be, with narrow
exceptions like conspiracy charges.

Re:wow... horrible parents (1)

Greyfox (87712) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471765)

It still could have easily been a deadly mistake, and maybe some time in juvenile detention might teach the kids some judgement that they apparently haven't learned so far. I can't speak for my parenting skills, since that's an extremely hypothetical situation, but by the time we were that age (whatever age that was, I didn't even look) our parents had beaten more sense than that into us. Hooray, child abuse!

Hooray, child abuse? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471879)

maybe some time in juvenile detention might teach the kids some judgement that they apparently haven't learned so far.

So, by your logic, being placed around more people that have judgement problems would serve as an adequate solution?

  but by the time we were that age (whatever age that was, I didn't even look) our parents had beaten more sense than that into us

I can't speak for my parenting skills, since that's an extremely hypothetical situation, but by the time we were that age (whatever age that was, I didn't even look) our parents had beaten more sense than that into us. Hooray, child abuse!

You should be sterilized, and I'm not laughing. At all. Your parents should've been, too, if they routinely beat you.

Re:wow... horrible parents (1)

Scutter (18425) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471767)

If the kids were capable of drugging their parents (and the parents had a home drug test kit handy), I'm guessing this is not the first time they've butted heads. Maybe they decided it was time for a little tough love.

If you can't be bothered to even read the summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471935)

and the parents had a home drug test kit handy

They had to drive to the police station to get one.

Re:wow... horrible parents (2)

mark-t (151149) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471799)

If they had been slipped cyanide, they wouldn't be acting like anything. They'd be dead.

Drugging somebody against their will is a rather serious crime, and there is no doubt this was premeditated, making it almost on par with attempted murder. In many jurisdictions, the victim of a crime of this severity might be allowed to request that charges be dropped, but it is still up to prosecuting attorney to actually do so. If the prosecuting attorney thinks that the crime is too severe to allow the perpetrator to go unpunished, and, subjectively, especially if there is no indication of repentance on the part of the perpetrator, then the charges will stand. A judge will determine what actual sentence is appropriate.

"making it almost on par with attempted murder." (1)

intellitech (1912116) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471971)

Dear god, mate, listen to yourself. At most, it could only be construed as manslaughter, not murder.

What the fuck is wrong with you people? You act like the teen intentionally tried to kill her parents.

Teen's behavior was off the fucking charts. (1)

intellitech (1912116) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471979)

I can't believe they arrested her, though.

Was that really the only resolution? Or was it just the most convenient?

Something you need to ask yourselves.

Re:wow... horrible parents (1)

Farmer Tim (530755) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471821)

Unless these kids know about safe dosages (how much did they put in if the parents only had to drink one quarter?!?), interactions with other drugs or side effects that might interfere with medical conditions, etc, there's the possibility it could have been as lethal as cyanide. Fucking around with someone's body chemistry is never trivial.

Parents needed to use available tools. (5, Insightful)

Andy Prough (2730467) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471875)

Most modern wireless routers can be set to block internet automatically at a certain time of night for select devices in the house based on either IP address or MAC address. No reason to fight about it every night with the kids - set an automatic policy and communicate the policy. Simple.

Re:wow... horrible parents (1)

darkfeline (1890882) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471877)

It was only sleeping medicine, jesus... they acted like their kid and her friend slipped them cyanide. Why the hell would they have their child arrested? That is not exactly awesome for a kid's career and life... not exactly what I would do if she was my child.

I doubt their parents wanted to, but it's for their own good. If they were willing to drug their parents to go on the Internet, they'd be willing to murder and rob for extra spending money somewhere down the road. It's this kind of "oh, it's nothing big" lenient parenting that led to recent generations' general stupidity and lack of self-control.

Re:wow... horrible parents (0)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471989)

Except for the fact that strict, controlling parenting is (most likely) what lead to this happening. I was blessed to have normal, sane, parents who cared enough to make sane rules based on reason, not irrationality. Rather than saying "no phone after X PM" they just let me suffer the consequences. If I talked on the phone until 4 AM on a weeknight, I went to school tired. They didn't say that I couldn't eat cookies. Instead if I went on an Oreo binge and ate the entire package I'd suffer the consequences (such as throwing up, to this day I can't eat an Oreo without gagging). On the other hand, those with strict parents with the most bizarre rules ended up being the kids that in college spent all their time drinking, partying and generally wasting away their life which further strained their relationship with their family.

Re:wow... horrible parents (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42472007)

1. The kids DRUGGED THIER PARENTS to get what they wanterd. Although it was not a deadly drug, it doesn't change the fact they drugged their parents. This could lead to...
"they weren't killed, and I was going to bring it back - after all I need to borrow it next week for shopping..
"You know there is something called asking. You could have asked me to borrow it."
"yeah, but you might have said 'no' and this was easier and faster"
2. The kids need to learn what is and is not acceptable to do to another human being - admittedly they should have learned that sort of thing by age 6.
3. The kids need to learn that their are repercussions in life - and police arrest can be a big lesson.

The only problem with this is that the kid will possibly consider all of this as something done to them, by everyone else, and not repercussions of their actions.

End of the day, I don't know the kid, and I don't know the family. My familly would not have pulled the police into a home matter unless they were at their wits end. In this case, local laws may be taking precendence.

One final thought - Everyone was a kid at one point. How many of thought of ways did you think of as a kid to get around restictions imposed by your parents?
My memory says I blinkered myself this way: Parents become an obsticle to be climbed/beaten, like a fence at a concert, or ticket inspectors at train stations, or copying tapes/cd's/dvd's, or doing new things that everyone said was impossible before.

Re:wow... horrible parents (2)

reub2000 (705806) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472019)

Drugging a person is a serious violation of their body. The fact that the drug wasn't lethal makes it a less serious crime, but it's still a serious crime.

I would have called child services (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471633)

Stupid kids. If your going to go to such trouble you should have called child services when confronted. No more parents to deal with.

Re:I would have called child services (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42472017)

yes having a hissy fit cause poisoning your parents didnt work should go well

Some general questions... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471635)

I can only assume we're talking Benzo's here, based on the drug testing kit.
Based on the description of the "next morning" I think it's same to assume we're talking about Ambien.

How does a teenager get a prescription for Ambien? ...And enough of it to drug two grown adults (with only 1/4 dosage) ?

These benzo's can be expensive. What teenager has the money to blow on a handful of drugs, for the sole purpose of "surfing the web late at night"?
Something tells me there's a lot more to this story.

This is JUST like that video game (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471667)

Where you drug drinks and give them to adults. Curse you video games!

Story sounds made up. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471683)

"drug testing kit"

Yeah no. I don't think the average dipshit would have any idea how to get ahold of that.
And any they WOULD get ahold of. Are not going to 'detect' any sleeping medication the average teen could even get ahold of.

Let alone who the hell keeps a milkshake around overnight.

This story sounds 100% made up. The media will eat it up tho. But not too much. It's too fake.

Re:Story sounds made up. (3)

darkfeline (1890882) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471841)

"drug testing kit"

Yeah no. I don't think the average dipshit would have any idea how to get ahold of that. And any they WOULD get ahold of. Are not going to 'detect' any sleeping medication the average teen could even get ahold of.

Home drug tests are MADE to test for things the average teen could get ahold of. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=where+to+buy+home+drug+test [lmgtfy.com]

Let alone who the hell keeps a milkshake around overnight.

Someone who was drugged after taking a couple sips? Being knocked out gets in the way of stuff like throwing away milkshakes. Pity the kids didn't have the foresight to throw it away themselves, but then again, what can you except from kids who drug their parents to check facebook after curfew?

This story sounds 100% made up. The media will eat it up tho. But not too much. It's too fake.

Try harder.

Re:Story sounds made up. (1)

reub2000 (705806) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472039)

The article said they stopped drinking it because it tasted funny.

Re:Story sounds made up. (1)

tibit (1762298) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472065)

Home drug tests are MADE to test for things the average teen could get ahold of.

Since when sleeping pills are something that anyone takes for pleasure? Give me a break.
Treating benzodiazepines (most common sleeping pill ingredient IIRC) as "drugs" is plenty stupid
IMHO.

anything with computers (3, Interesting)

arielCo (995647) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471717)

I know this is an old peeve, but still: this story is about kids drugging parents to get $THING. Is it on /. only because $THING == Internet?

Allegedly (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471731)

'Behind bars'.

But not convicted, only facing charges. The word 'allegedly' is missing from this article.

Home drug test kit? (0)

ToadProphet (1148333) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471803)

They have a home drug test kit that tests for prescription drugs? Is there such a thing?

I thought those kits tested for illegal drugs. Isn't that the whole point of them?

Re:Home drug test kit? (4, Informative)

ToadProphet (1148333) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471839)

Ah, had to RTFA and watch the damn video... but apparently it was a drug test kit from the police station.

Re:Home drug test kit? (2)

ldobehardcore (1738858) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472157)

There's home drug tests that test for an asslode of stuff. When I was in high school, the folks had one in their bathroom that tested urine for:

Amphetamines
Benzos
Cocaine
PCP
Ketamine
Opiates
MDMA
MDA
2C-B
Alcohol
THC

Amphetamines, Benzos and Opiates are all widely prescribed in the US, and are all fairly easy to get out of unattended medicine cabinets, if one knows whose parents suffer from what.

Re:Home drug test kit? (1)

rtb61 (674572) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472201)

The whole seems to be cutting off you nose to spite your face, "The daughter and her friend, were arrested and booked". Who is going to pay for the fine, these a pretty serious charges and would normally result in a extended stay in a correctional facility. Often doing more harm than good for the child's future. Something does seem truly odd about the parents seeking prosecution of their own teenage child.

Seriously first suspicion when waking up like that is that I have a cold. It would take repeated occurrences to consider being slipped drugs. Are the other teenager's parents wealthy by any chance?

Damn Kids. (1, Funny)

EuclideanSilence (1968630) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471811)

Shouldn't have been running bit-torrent while daddy was playing CoD. Who doesn't wanna have someone thrown in jail for lagging their connection?

Ban the inner tubes! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471819)

No more inner tubes!

2am StarCraft (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471845)

A few years ago, some people I know figured out that their teen-aged son was setting an alarm clock for 2:00 in the morning, and getting up and playing StarCraft on the Internet for a few hours and then going back to bed.

They weren't sure what was up, for a while, but they did notice he seemed like he wasn't well rested and his school teachers were noticing as well. He wasn't an A+ student to start with and this really wasn't helping his grades.

Hmm, maybe Blizzard should have made an ad featuring him. "StarCraft: it's better than sleep!"

Re:2am StarCraft (3, Funny)

Andy Prough (2730467) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471905)

Yeah - I think you just described nearly every teenaged son alive.

Re:2am StarCraft (2)

tibit (1762298) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472079)

I was the same, except that back then it was playing with Turbo Pascal 3 on a CP/M machine :)

Nope! (0)

TemperedAlchemist (2045966) | about a year and a half ago | (#42471949)

I say reward them for being so resourceful!

I think they'll go far in life.

Emancipation of Minors (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42471983)

Generally speaking:

If the young dependents are mature enough, and are willing to be emancipated, and can procure their own financial means, then they should be emancipated from their parents [wikipedia.org] through a legal process. Sadly this doesn't happen often enough in the existing legal system. 18 is a good-enough "rule of thumb" to assume automatic emancipation if no one challenges it in a particular family, but it shouldn't be an inflexible one-size-fits-all commandment. (Likewise, if a person is mentally handicapped, the Rights of the parents / guardians should be extendabile beyond age 18.) As civilization advances, the cost of living relative to average salary should decline, and so it should be easier for more teenagers to pull this off.

But if those kids aren't ready and able to become independent economic actors and take full responsibility for their actions, then they have no choice but to "put up and shut up" as subjects of their parents / guardians. They have a full "Right to Life" and "Right to Emancipation", but not the "Right to Liberty" or "Right to Property". That's the temporary privilege that parents get for giving them life.

--libman

Turnabout is fair (2, Funny)

Grayhand (2610049) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472077)

A nice plate of Exlax brownies should solve the problem. It has the added benefit of them being afraid of asking for dessert. Just slip a few in their lunch bags so they kick in right around the time of the big Physics test.

A matter of perspective (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42472161)

So, immediately everyone is going to talk about how this girl is a selfish facebook-generation twat, and how this is so terrible, and how she needs to be slapped down with the law, etc. While there's a chance that this is all true, I'd like you to consider for a moment other possibilities.

I grew up with abusive and controlling parents. I have been whipped with a belt. I have had all my belongings locked up in crates in other rooms, being given back to me when I "earned it" (which never seemed to happen). I have had my toys thrown in the fireplace because I couldn't clean them up fast enough. I've had the power to the entire house cut nightly because it was curfew time. I've had my bed and my car sold out from under me because it was decided that they were taking up too much space.

It is not normal teenage behavior to drug your parents: this is an extreme action. You may choose to believe that she is extremely entitled and potentially psychopathic, but other extremes are also possible. As a general rule, it would be nice if people reserved their judgement until they had all the details.

Trusting parents (5, Insightful)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year and a half ago | (#42472175)

Does it not surprise anyone else that one of their first thoughts was to drug test the milkshake?

I can not possibly imagine waking up groggy and at any point thinking 'Was I drugged?!?!?!'

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