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Rusty Foster Isn't Dead

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the pass-it-on dept.

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While he was vacationing with his wife, Kuro5hin founder Rusty Foster was killed — at least in the eyes of Facebook. NBC News details how it happened: a "pal" pranked both Foster and Facebook by notifying the social site of Foster's supposed death, providing as documentation the obituary of another, much older man by the same name. Getting the Facebook version of his life back took some doing; based on this article it seems much easier to convince Facebook that you're dead than that you're alive.

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162 comments

Slow News Day (1, Insightful)

Frosty Piss (770223) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485361)

This sort of story needs to be tagged "Slow News Day".

Re:Slow News Day (-1, Troll)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485545)

"Posted by timothy on Saturday January 05, @12:24AM"

posted a whole 24 min after the day started, tell me ... are you a natural fucktard, or a trained dipshit?

Re:Slow News Day (5, Funny)

feedayeen (1322473) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485611)

"Posted by timothy on Saturday January 05, @12:24AM"

posted a whole 24 min after the day started, tell me ... are you a natural fucktard, or a trained dipshit?

I don't think you have a comprehensive knowledge of either time zones or phrases in the English Language.

First point, in some places of the world, like Sydney, it's after 5PM, the workday is over. This is due to the Earth being round, a discovery made a few years ago and a bias by the majority of the population to being active when it's bright outside. Second point, the phrase, 'slow news day', is a figure of speech refering to publisher quotas and a demand to publish crud over nothing at all.

Re:Slow News Day (-1, Flamebait)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486069)

first point, the time standard for slashdot is eastern, learn to adapt your local time is not the center of the fucking world

second point, quota's dont mean shit when its 24 hours before the end of said quota, which I know are only slightly enforced on slashdot in the first place, these guys are not primarily employed by slashdot, most of them pop in for a couple hours after real work to listen to asshats bitch and whine about ad free news tailored as best as they can to some random mouth breathers interests

your dealing with news for nerds by nerds, and as per personal experience you can bust your ass for 300 bucks a month while douches expect you to be Pulitzer winners

Re:Slow News Day (0)

Hognoxious (631665) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486239)

learn to adapt your local time is not the center of the fucking world

Neither is yours. And adapt doesn't mean what you think it does.

second point, quota's dont mean shit

Right number of apostrophe's but in the wrong places.

Mind your head, I'm dropping you a new shovel.

Re: Slow News Day (3, Informative)

Rational (1990) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486493)

"Right number of apostrophe's but in the wrong places." If that was sarcasm, well played.

Re:Slow News Day (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485837)

"Posted by timothy on Saturday January 05, @12:24AM"

posted a whole 24 min after the day started, tell me ... are you a natural fucktard, or a trained dipshit?

Thanks for saying this. If you hadn't, I might not have known you're an asshole!

Re:Slow News Day (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485911)

Parent gets TROLL, Parents Parent gets INSIGHTFUL. Moderation is now in hands of 4chan?

Typical Bullshit (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485673)

Modded "redundant"? It's the first fucking post in the thread, and it's spot on.

Re:Typical Bullshit (2)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485811)

'Frosty Piss' being a loose anagram of First Post stating the obvious and tending to drift off towards an editor bashin' slant is probably the intent of the moderation.

The topic here is the content of the submission, viz some web forum founder's faked death - not whether the submission should have indeed made it to the story page...

Re:Typical Bullshit (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485855)

'Frosty Piss' being a loose anagram of First Post stating the obvious and tending to drift off towards an editor bashin' slant is probably the intent of the moderation.

The topic here is the content of the submission, viz some web forum founder's faked death - not whether the submission should have indeed made it to the story page...

I just wanna shove some coal up inside your asshole. When it makes its way back out it will be a bunch of diamonds.

We'll be rich! Isn't that just great, you uptight bastard?

Re:Typical Bullshit (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486907)

viz some web forum founder's faked death

Oh Slashdot, what has happened when people think Rusty Foster is 'some webforum founder'

Re:Slow News Day (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486133)

What the fuck is "Kurofivehin" anyways?

Re:Slow News Day (2)

mcgrew (92797) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486793)

First, Rusty's well known in the nerd world. Second, there was a submission yesterday "Rusty Foster is Dead" which sort of startled me. Third, if you didn't want to see the story posted you could have tagged it "slow news day" in the firehose. Fourth, you're in the minority -- it was voted up. Sixth, you didn't have to click the link. Seventh and most important, TFA was a good one and worth a read. How can FB be so sloppy? Doesn't anyone there have database experience? Names are terrible identifiers!

So he lost his Facebook account (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485385)

Nothing of value was lost.

Re:So he lost his Facebook account (1)

0xdeaddead (797696) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486307)

I thought the facebooks were the whole reason for existing?

It was an understandable mixup (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485399)

While he's not dead, his site certainly is.

Re:It was an understandable mixup (1, Flamebait)

jamstar7 (694492) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485889)

Pretty much, yeah. Couple neckbeards still post their blogs there, but I was just over there, and the latest article was from Dec 17th of last year. The article at the end of the page was a year old.

So much for culture and geek tech 'down in the trenches'.

Re:It was an understandable mixup (1)

TheLink (130905) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486215)

Might those trenches be 6 feet deep perchance?

Re:It was an understandable mixup (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485905)

A shame, too. I always enjoyed K5 back when it attracted some interesting posts/posters.

Re:It was an understandable mixup (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486349)

yeah looks like he used all those donations to pay for a nice yacht....

So perhaps this was more revenge, one thing for sure if he keeps ripping people off like he has apparently been doing for years (see wikipedia articles etc) that he may well end up died for real!

I first reported on this (5, Interesting)

Arno Stark (2789795) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485423)

received bad karma for it. Looks like the repost made it to the front page. I contacted Rusty on Twitter after it was found out to be a hoax, but he blocked my account. Before he blocked me, he admitted he knew Josh did it. I think it was done on purpose for free publicity for Kuro5hin and Rusty Foster to breath life into their dying web site.

Re:I first reported on this (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485445)

Nothing could breathe life into it.

Been dead too long and lost too much momentum - the crowds have simply moved on.

Re:I first reported on this (1)

Arno Stark (2789795) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485477)

Yes but they didn't have to do this to the rest of us. Don't fake the death of the founder just to drive up more visitors to the web site to check it out and pay their respects. I myself moved on from Kuro5hin long ago, I only paid my respects to Rusty because I thought he was dead, and people needed to know so I posted it to Slashdot and other places. I got the feeling I will be getting emails from Nigerian Princes now after how gullible I've been over this.

Re:I first reported on this (1)

tinkerton (199273) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486229)

the crowds have simply moved on.

Actually the way I recall it, the idea at some point was that "now that we got rid of the softies, this site will really be good."

Re:I first reported on this (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486893)

I left in '05 after being continually annoyed by admin Pete Jongular, nigga, and a few other trolls and assholes. Plus, after /. instituted user journals there just wasn't any reason to go there any more.

Re:I first reported on this (1)

tinkerton (199273) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486961)

That's about the time I left as well.

Re:I first reported on this (-1)

AK Marc (707885) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485853)

And it should be that easy to be dead and that hard to come back to life. If it were hard to get dead, what did you want the grieving to do, send copies of the death certificate to Facebook? And if you are "wrongly" dead, you can always sue the joker for damages, but if you are dead and can't shut down your account, there's little you can do about it.

If you are wrongly dead, coming back should be hard. It's not hard to keep calling and certifying your identity, just a little time consuming, and you have someone who did it you can hold responsible. If you are truly dead and someone is trying to bring you back to mess with people, it should be hard.

I'm perfectly ok with it being east to kill and hard to bring back. It's better than the alternative.

Re:I first reported on this (1)

TheLink (130905) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486253)

If you're talking about Facebook they should invalidate all active logged in sessions but allow you to reactivate the account just by logging in successfully and saying "yes I wish to reactivate this account" within X months after the account is memorialized.

If dead people can still log in, it likely means they're not dead.

Require manual labor to deal with most people trying to reactivate their pranked account costs Facebook money and is stupid.

Re:I first reported on this (1)

krotkruton (967718) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486283)

I'm not trying to argue what facebook should or shouldn't do, but it's usually pretty hard to "be dead", at least in my experience. Over a year after my dad died, my mom wanted to cancel some of the extra channels we got with our cable subscription, but since my dad's name was on the bill, she couldn't do anything until she could prove to them that he was dead. It wasn't exactly what we expected to have to go through with a cable company.

Re:I first reported on this (1)

_Shad0w_ (127912) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486765)

Companies fairly predictably won't deal with anyone but the person named on the account, this can frequently be very annoying as a lot of them won't actually accept instructions of the "this person can do whatever I can do". My broadband provider at least will happily talk to anyone who knows the account password and username, which is good because I'm the account holder and I don't like talking to people; "Are you the account holder?" "No, a house mate." "OK".

Re:I first reported on this (2)

mcgrew (92797) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486835)

Did you even read the article?? Facebook's methods are retarded. Send an obit of someone with a similar (not same) name, wildly different age and place of residence and that's that. They couldn't have made a more stupid design if they tried.

If you're really dead, so is your password.

Re:I first reported on this (0)

Threni (635302) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486673)

I think nobody cares either way. The site is unpopular, the owner is...well, the owner of an unknown site. (I went there a few times back in the day - it's basically a blog for drama-queens with a moderation system even more broken than Slashdot's). So I'm sure Facebook etc don't really care whether people are dead or not, as long as they can say `meh, someone told us he's dead. He's not? Oh, ok. Whatever. What's the share price?'.

Re:I first reported on this (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486811)

So, not dead, just pining for the page hits?

In other news (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485449)

Kuro5hin is still online.

Re:In other news (3, Funny)

Arno Stark (2789795) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485491)

I guess even trolls need a web site to hang out on that only supports ASCII text, no images, and a broken cancel button?

Re:In other news (1)

b1t r0t (216468) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486911)

Whew! I was getting depressed about the thought of never being able to MTV VTD a sye article ever again.

The worst part of it was (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485453)

Just as Rusty was getting his FB life back on track, Zygna shut down Petville and he lost his pets too.

A truly tragic story...

Re:The worst part of it was (0)

shentino (1139071) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485665)

serves the fools right for investing in it in the first place.

Anyone spending real money for virtual goods deserves to be shafted.

I wonder he bothered. (1)

mbone (558574) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485493)

I am not sure I would.

Re:I wonder he bothered. (1)

Arno Stark (2789795) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485499)

I think it was a publicity stunt. Done for marketing reasons just to get their names mentioned on Slashdot and The Verge. Otherwise this is a non-news item.

Re:I wonder he bothered. (1)

mbone (558574) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485643)

Makes sense.

Rusty Foster? Is this the same guy whose wife is (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485501)

into porn?

I'll never forget this pic (NSFW)

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/File:Rustina.jpg

That's Christina Foster (his wife) in a porn shoot. It was released on K5 awhile ago and Rusty freaked out. It's pretty funny.

Re:Rusty Foster? Is this the same guy whose wife i (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485531)

Oh thats what that little kerfuffle was all about!

Re:Rusty Foster? Is this the same guy whose wife i (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485533)

just how retarded are you?

Rusty Forster, two SUPER common names, might as well be joe smith from the late 70's to mid 80's, its even as spell check name in firefox for fucks sake you dumb shit

Re:Rusty Foster? Is this the same guy whose wife i (1)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485875)

Foster is certainly more common where I'm from... It's a lager we banished to the U.K. made from 100% wallaby wee.

I'm surprised firefox didn't auto-correct to 'rusty faucet'. :)

Re:Rusty Foster? Is this the same guy whose wife i (2)

plover (150551) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485701)

Supposedly, that was photoshopped by someone just to piss Rusty off. It worked.

That's the thing when you run a successful site. The trolls aren't just posting garbage, they're making it personal. Community policing works only as long as the community doesn't tolerate the trolls, and I think K5 just got overrun.

Re:Rusty Foster? Is this the same guy whose wife i (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486867)

Good call.

That's exactly what happened, K5 was a great site way back when, but it became overrun with trolls, really nasty one's too, and I finally had to bail. When I visited some time later I saw it was dead and there were hushed innuendos about the cause (the X Rated photo).

It's too bad K5 is a ghost town now, it was a refreshing adjunct to Slashdot at the time ('99-2003), and I still have a well worn Kuro5hin T-shirt.

Guess I'll go give it a look for old time's sake. TA!

http://www.kuro5hin.org/

Re:Rusty Foster? Is this the same guy whose wife i (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486437)

Right, because that is clearly not photoshopped at all. Are you perchance browsing the web using a fuzzy old 15" CRT monitor?

easier to convince Facebook that you're dead (1, Insightful)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485529)

fuckin fine by me

Kuro5hin? (0)

greatgreygreengreasy (706454) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485553)

He may not be, but his website is certainly on its way.

Shitfest of Kuro5hin (5, Interesting)

Seumas (6865) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485629)

I stopped over at Kuro5hin a couple years ago. Curious as to how things had come along, since I last was there. It used to be a decent mix of deep content, generated by its users. Usually heavily tech oriented and definitely geek oriented, otherwise.

HOLY SHIT WHAT HAS IT BECOME?!

When I last looked, it was just article after article about the most vile shit that makes the comments on articles that drudgereport links to look intelligent. It was just a bunch of crap by anti-abortion nuts, anti-gay nuts, and shit about Sandra Fluke being a slutty cunt. I am completely baffled as to what happened. It used to be on par with slashdot. Maybe even better, in some ways. Now it looks like it's just a place of navel-gazing propoganda for hate-filled truthers, birthers, anti-everything idiots. I thought it had been attacked, actually, and returned a couple weeks later to see if they had fixed their website. Then I googled a bit and found that it had been in this disgusting state of ruin for *years* and nobody really knew why.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (4, Interesting)

plover (150551) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485689)

A lot of people bitch about the slashdot moderation system being crap, but when you see sites like kuro5hin fail like that, you have to consider that it adds huge value.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485951)

K5 had a pretty good moderation system as well. Part of the problem may be that K5 had a notoriously high signal to noise ratio, compared to slashdot. Posting was slow and the site aimed for the high end of the market so to speak. As a result it had few members and when people started to leave it changed quickly.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (3, Informative)

martin-boundary (547041) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486043)

K5's demise was self inflicted. Rusty pissed off the regulars when he took donations and didn't improve the site. Instead, he went off to work for daily kos. The site's main attraction, the moderation queue which filtered out crappy articles was ruined by making the rules too easy. The diaries was the worst idea ever - just a blog roll with trivial personal content nobody cares about. Worst of all, the trolls weren't actively terminated.

I'm surprised the site has "survived" this long - it's been a troll crapfest for at least 8 years now, longer than it was a great site. A great shame.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (2)

Seumas (6865) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486249)

Wow, I didn't realize all of that. I had forgotten about K5 for so long, until I saw it mentioned one day. It's really hard to say it has "survived', of course. I mean, it looks like someone's abandoned blog that has been over-taken by spambots. There is zero content on there and it's a solid mix of idiotic and incoherent. If you remember K5 during its prime and you return today, you seriously think something is wrong with the site -- like you've somehow wound up at a domain squatter's site or something. I can't understand what the point of keeping the site up is? It's not even worth the $10/yr for domain registration. I don't even know if anyone even shows up anymore -- bots included. When I looked last, the Sandra Fluke is a Whore stuff (fine, whatever your opinion, not sure what it has to do with a geek tech site) was about the only new thing that had been posted since 2010.

Also sad to hear about Advogato.

What's left? I mean, Slashdot is a shadow of its former self and, other than that, there's nothing -- unless you accept Reddit, which has basically become the 1990s AOL hub of internet forums. Blech.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (1)

tinkerton (199273) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486319)

Worst of all, the trolls weren't actively terminated.

I think it would have been against the spirit of the project to do so. As I recall it -but it's been a while- Rusty made a point of it that he wasn't going to delete the trolls himself. that delivering the tools for the community to fix itself was as far as he would go. Then if the community fixed itself, cool. If they didn't, that was their choice and a lesson for the others.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (2)

maynard (3337) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486933)

> As I recall it -but it's been a while- Rusty made a point of it that he wasn't going to delete the trolls himself.

No. Rusty actively deleted accounts from people who _weren't_ trolls. He threw his hat in with the worst of the worst on the net and drove off his best users and potential customers. He took a hot internet property, one that could have been profitable and socially valuable, and drove it into the ground for reasons entirely his own. Now the site is cobwebs and tumbleweeds.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (1)

tinkerton (199273) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487009)

Which year are you talking about? I stopped following it when I left, around 2005 or 2006 .

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (2)

mcgrew (92797) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486959)

It wasn't just Rusty, the admins were retards. I was once banned for crapflooding (Pete Jongular is a retarded asshole). Rusty told me he didn't know how it happened and blamed a bug when I posted six stories at once and five were voted to the front page.

How to kill a web site: piss off your users. Sites are a dime a dozen, eyeballs are precious.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (4, Interesting)

TheLink (130905) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486293)

Doesn't matter if you have a good moderation system if you have crappy moderators. The Slashdot admins do ban some people from moderating. The moderation at Kuro5hin was presumably done by sock puppets of various warring factions.

FWIW I've stopped getting mod points for years. Maybe I was a crap moderator. But whatever it is, Slashdot is doing better than kuro5hin.

That said, Slashdot does seem to be declining in quality - lots of troll stories that seem to be designed just to get comments and hits. Heck sometimes I think they purposely leave in or even add editing errors to generate more comments. So the top 25% of the comments end up being comments about the crappy editing and nothing to do with the story.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (4, Insightful)

Kjella (173770) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486507)

FWIW I've stopped getting mod points for years. Maybe I was a crap moderator. But whatever it is, Slashdot is doing better than kuro5hin.

Try metamoderating, I have excellent karma but pretty much never get mod points. If I do then I usually get a batch of mod points soon after. I don't generally bother since the people who want to troll the mod system use non-moderated choices like "-1, Overrated" anyway.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (1)

b1t r0t (216468) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486973)

Does the metamoderation FAQ still describe the old system? The new one that they switched to (what, two or three years ago now?) is just plain confusing. Is it [+] the moderation is good, or [+] the post is good?

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (2)

b1t r0t (216468) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486955)

I think part of the problem is that K5 has a mod system that lets everybody, even new accounts, rate every post with no limits, which encourages sock-puppeting and circle-jerking. (Kind of like... Digg and Reddit? Two down, one to go.)

Slashdot literally makes you lurk more, as an important factor in getting mod points is simply reading a lot of articles. Among other things, this makes it difficult for sock puppet accounts to ever get mod points. I guess it does require a certain critical mass of users to work properly, but below that level is probably admin-moddable anyhow.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485783)

I stopped by a month or two back. It was a series of incoherent "articles" written by someone angry at something about something. I honestly couldn't make heads or tails of it. It sounded a bit like the four-corners timecube guy. Thoughts cut off mid-sentence and such. So far as I could tell, every article was written by someone independent from every other article, but who knows. Maybe it's all the demented madness of a single person now?

So I decided to stop by Advogato to see how it's fared. About the same, actually.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485785)

/. is right behind then. Surely 4-digit guy you've noticed the massive and growing hordes of libertarians, particularly over the last two years? Those willfully ignorant of everything and proud of it asshats make me miss the creationist hordes we used to have circa 2003.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (4, Funny)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486231)

I always wondered whatever became of the low budget Filipina horror movie in DC.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486275)

kuro5hin was always shit compared to /.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486347)

No shit. I have a K5 UID in the 4000s and it's like the site got flipped, turned upside down and went all to hell.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486751)

Same here... Makes the fall of digg look like a happy ending...

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486839)

It's interesting to read the wikipedia page on the site [wikipedia.org] , and the history of trouble they've had in the last few years. Sounds like a classic example of a site gone bad through neglect and an ineffective moderation system. It may as well be dead.

Re:Shitfest of Kuro5hin (2)

b1t r0t (216468) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486859)

In may ways it's been a pale shadow of adequacy.org, but with a lot more lame troll articles. It's also Michael D. Crawford's aspergement and abuse blog, and Sye's bad poetry aspergement blog. And watching for the inevitable idiot who pays $5 for a new account to plaster spam or a press release for something stupid, and we all get to laugh at the "nullo". Sometimes there's an article that's a good enough troll for everybody to agree to put it on the front page. I particularly like the phrase "Schizoasshole Disorder". And I still miss Turmeric.

Catch-22 Doc Daneeka (3, Insightful)

Required Snark (1702878) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485645)

In Joseph Heller's Catch-22 the flight surgeon, Doc Daneeka, is declared dead even though he is very much alive and waking around.

One day when Yossarian is staring over the skyline and wondering where Clevinger and Orr are, McWatt suddenly skims over the surface of the water and slices Kid Sampson in half with his propeller. Chaos ensues at the grotesque sight. Yossarian yells futilely at McWatt to come down. His cries are useless as McWatt flies higher and higher and then flies into a mountain. In response to these deaths, Colonel Cathcart increases the number of missions to sixty-five.

When Colonel Cathcart finds out that Doc Daneeka is dead, he increases the number of missions to seventy. Sergeant Towser is the first one to realize Doc Daneeka is dead. He tells Gus and Wes, and when they take Doc Daneeka’s temperature, it is half a degree lower that the usual 96.8 degrees--when Doc Daneeka, who is actually still alive, complains about being cold, they point out that he has been dead all this time, but never realized it until now. Doc Daneeka screams with anger when they say they will tell his wife that he is dead. At first, Mrs. Daneeka is very upset when she finds out. She then receives conflicting letters from her husband and from the War Department regarding the life of her husband. But as Mrs. Daneeka begins to receive widow pensions and other monetary benefits, she appreciates her new measure of wealth.

Meanwhile, Doc Daneeka is considered dead by the squadron, and he has to depend on Milo and Sergeant Towser for food. He is ostracized by everyone and almost starves to death. He writes a final intense appeal to his wife, but she moves away with the children when she receives the generic official notification from the army of his death.

http://www.gradesaver.com/catch22/study-guide/section5/ [gradesaver.com]

Re:Catch-22 Doc Daneeka (2)

TuringTest (533084) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486389)

It makes you wonder if we technicians aren't creating a new class of 'codeless' people -like the 'homeless'- those who fall through the gaps of the system, in this case because they have their digital ID revoked. They wouldn't have a way to get in the system again, because lacking an identification they wouldn't be able to use even the basic communication tools.

Re:Catch-22 Doc Daneeka (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486957)

In Joseph Heller's Catch-22 the flight surgeon, Doc Daneeka, is declared dead even though he is very much alive and waking around.

So? Catch-22 is fiction.

I'm not dead! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485731)

I don't want to go on the cart!

Facebook still isn't obligatory. (0)

bytesex (112972) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485901)

Or a human right. As long as you don't need facebook to get a job, file a criminal report, register a car or whatnot, I can't lose any sleep over this. It's just a website, folks.

Re:Facebook still isn't obligatory. (3, Funny)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485943)

As long as you don't need facebook to get a job

But what if this happens on LinkedIn?

Once upon a time... (4, Funny)

RKBA (622932) | about a year and a half ago | (#42485977)

I wrote "Deceased" on a junk mail envelope hoping that they would stop sending junk to me, and put the envelope back into my mailbox. A day or two later I stopped getting any mail at all! The post office was returning ALL of my mail because they assumed I was actually dead. Convincing them otherwise cost a lot of time and trouble.

Re:Once upon a time... (1)

Seumas (6865) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486257)

That actually got a loud laugh out of me. Thanks. :)

Even three years after buying this house, I still get mail for the old owners, every day. And the people who lived here before that (almost 15 years ago). It just never stops. I do everything online, so 95% of mail is literally just someone else's junk. I tried stamping it with a "NO LONGER AT THIS ADDRESS". Still nothing.

So, I've taken to using the time when I'm on long holds for operators or something to write intricate stories on envelopes, before stamping them with "NO LONGER AT THIS ADDRESS" and returning them to my mailbox for the postman to return. Usually things about the recipient having a gender reassignment surgery and moving to Vegas or reassessing their life and joining the French Foreign Legion.

Re:Once upon a time... (1)

scottrocket (1065416) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486483)

Usually things about the recipient having a gender reassignment surgery and moving to Vegas or reassessing their life and joining the French Foreign Legion.

Good, you're opening their mail-someday there could be money inside.

Re:Once upon a time... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42487131)

I had a scummy credit card company pestering me with those a few years ago. "Get another card now, only 9.99% (*) interest!" (* for first 3 months, then it skyrockets to left arm + firstborn).

They wouldn't take the hint when I returned their prepaid envelopes with a polite "not interested" written on the form. So we taped that sucker to a ten-pound scrap of old lumber, wrote "GIVE UP" on it in 150 point font, and gave it to the postman (who had a good laugh and said yes, they have to pay that thing on delivery).

We never heard from that CC issuer again.

Get on the cart. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42485993)

Ere, he says he's not dead.

Yes he is.
I'm not.
He isn't.
Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
I'm getting better.
No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment.
Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
I don't want to go on the cart.
Oh, don't be such a baby.
I can't take him.
I feel fine.
Oh, do me a favor.
I can't.
Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
promised I'd be at the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.
Well, when's your next round?
Thursday.
I think I'll go for a walk.
You're not fooling anyone, you know. Isn't there anything you could do?

[Glances up and down the street furtively, then silences the Body with his a whack of his club.]

Re:Get on the cart. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42487053)

Too obscure. The lowbrows round here only know the Yorkshiremen, the parrot and the one about arguments.

Rusty Foster Isn't Dead... (1)

FatLittleMonkey (1341387) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486025)

While he was vacationing with his wife

...he's resting.

Two Facebook articles in a row (-1, Flamebait)

Psychotria (953670) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486111)

Is this what /. has become? I swear that this site is worse than a tabloid some days.

Re:Two Facebook articles in a row (-1, Troll)

Psychotria (953670) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486147)

Is this what /. has become? I swear that this site is worse than a tabloid some days.

Psychotria, SHUT THE FUCK UP. I'm angry. I'm really angry. To make matters worse, there are mainstream competitions where Geek of the Year goes to someone because they're a gamer. This is the way the fucking world is now. A NERD is a person who watches mangos (or whatever the stupid term is). This is the new News for Nerds.

Shut up, Psychotria. And I don't _ever_ hear garbage comments like this again on slashdot. Seriously.

I'd wait for Psychotria response to come through but I don't trust you to listen to his advice. So I am giving it to myself.

WE DO NOT BREAK SLASHDOT

Seriously. How hard is this rule to understand? We particularly don't break Slashdot space with TOTAL CRAP. Ever. End of fucking story.

Re:Two Facebook articles in a row (1, Funny)

Kergan (780543) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486191)

It looks like you forgot to tick the AC checkbox. Or if, consult a shrimp -- fast. :-)

Re:Two Facebook articles in a row (0)

Psychotria (953670) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486265)

Ok, I will eat a shrimp. But everything I said is true.

Re:Two Facebook articles in a row (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486329)

You must be an APK sockpuppet. I can't imagine any other reason why you would be so unbelievably stupid.

Re:Two Facebook articles in a row (0)

Psychotria (953670) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486379)

You do realise this story is posted under tech.slashdot.org, yes?

Re:Two Facebook articles in a row (2)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487133)

You do realise this story is posted under tech.slashdot.org, yes?

Are you sure about that? [slashdot.org]

Re:Two Facebook articles in a row (3, Insightful)

MysteriousPreacher (702266) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486251)

Congratulations. You're the cancer.

Re:Two Facebook articles in a row (1)

Psychotria (953670) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486551)

Well, seeing I almost literally quoted Linus Torvalds, the moderation to my post, and your reply, seems to justify -- or at least confirm -- my original post. There are a couple of possibilities here. (a) There are no nerds left; (b) nobody has a sense of humour mixed with fact; (c) both (a) and (b). Whatever the correct answer is doesn't matter.

Re:Two Facebook articles in a row (0)

Psychotria (953670) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486617)

Well I didn't post the THIRD Facebook "story" in a row (or the first, or the second). So I am not the cancer. The cancer is that facebook is the level of intelligence that now represents Slashdot. So, congratulations, enjoy your mindless peer group.

hiatus (1)

deadl0ck (92256) | about a year and a half ago | (#42486145)

I put my facebook account on hiatus about a year ago, I was considering deleting it entirely soon. This sounds like a much better state to leave it in.

Who gives a flying fuck? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486241)

As someone who regularly visited K5 back in 2001, I say who the fuck cares? Rusty let the place go to shit and so he deserves what he got. K5 used to be a small alternative to /. Now it's just a shitpile that has about as much use as a flaming dildo. My recommendation is that Rusty should shut down K5 and save the monies for bills and other necessary expenditures.

Re:Who gives a flying fuck? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42486255)

Also. for the record, I only posted AC because I had already modded some retarded posts in this story. My k5 UID is less than 4000 (although that's less impressive than having a /. UID in the 28000s).

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