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Facebook Lands Drunk Driving Teen In Jail

timothy posted about a year ago | from the lesson-keeps-on-getting-learned dept.

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Hugh Pickens writes "The Washington Post reports that 18-year-old Jacob Cox-Brown has been arrested after telling his Facebook network that he had hit a car while driving drunk, posting the message: 'Drivin drunk ... classsic ;) but to whoever's vehicle i hit i am sorry. :P' Two of Cox-Brown's friends saw the message and sent it along to two separate local police officers and after receiving the tip, police went to Cox-Brown's house and were able to match a vehicle there to one that had hit two others in the early hours of the morning. Police then charged the teen with two counts of failing to perform the duties of a driver. 'Astoria Police have an active social media presence,' says a press release from Astoria Police. 'It was a private Facebook message to one of our officers that got this case moving, though. When you post ... on Facebook, you have to figure that it is not going to stay private long.'"

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How is this gasping news (5, Insightful)

FunkyLich (2533348) | about a year ago | (#42486561)

This is the price you pay for being immature.
You know you have done something wrong (1.drive drunk 2.smash a car and the incident is the effect of a cause that is you alone, in wrongdoing). You look around, make sure noone sees you and when this turns out to be positive, you keep your fucking mouth shut. QED.

Re:How is this gasping news (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486591)

Wow, what a nigger you are.

Re:How is this gasping news (-1, Offtopic)

gagol (583737) | about a year ago | (#42487123)

When I read post like yours (and original story), I think "what happened to natural selection?".

Re:How is this gasping news (5, Insightful)

Dr_Barnowl (709838) | about a year ago | (#42486683)

Or if you're a real man, you leave your number under his windshield wiper, fess up (to the hit, not the drinking) and pay for the damage.

Then you stop being a murderous punk-ass little bitch who'd drink and then handle a giant steel lethal weapon.

Re:How is this gasping news (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486729)

How does being "a real man" entitle you to "ignore" the far more serious crime of drunk driving?

Re:How is this gasping news (4, Insightful)

Joce640k (829181) | about a year ago | (#42486923)

That'd be the "Then you stop..." part.

It's called learning from mistakes. If nobody's hurt and you paid for the damages then there's no point in getting a criminal record if you've learned your lesson and aren't going to do it again.

Re:How is this gasping news (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42487025)

Except it's unlikely that you would learn your lesson if you get off so lightly. That is why DUI penalties are so harsh, so that you don't easily forget.

Re:How is this gasping news (-1, Offtopic)

Joce640k (829181) | about a year ago | (#42487055)

ie. Experience has shown that if you're a drunk driver in the first place, you're not to be treated like a grown-up.

Re:How is this gasping news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486865)

If you were a man, you'd call the police yourself and admit to ALL of your wrongdoings, drunk driving included.

Re:How is this gasping news (4, Insightful)

beelsebob (529313) | about a year ago | (#42486737)

The news is even inaccurate... Facebook didn't land him in jail, being a moron and driving drunk, then not stopping at the scene of an accident did.

Re:How is this gasping news (3, Informative)

jamesh (87723) | about a year ago | (#42486853)

The news is even inaccurate... Facebook didn't land him in jail, being a moron and driving drunk, then not stopping at the scene of an accident did.

Doing those things and then getting caught landed him in jail. Without blabbing on facebook he might not have been caught. As far as headlines go it's vaguely accurate.

Re:How is this gasping news (3, Funny)

isorox (205688) | about a year ago | (#42486943)

The news is even inaccurate... Facebook didn't land him in jail, being a moron and driving drunk, then not stopping at the scene of an accident did.

Doing those things and then getting caught landed him in jail. Without blabbing on facebook he might not have been caught. As far as headlines go it's vaguely accurate.

Electricity landed him in jail. Without electricity facebook wouldn't exist, thus he wouldn't be able to brag about it and therefore get caught

His parents landed him in jail. Without them he would never be born and could not have crashed the car in the first place.

Re:How is this gasping news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42487091)

And being a teen retard with so little understanding of the Internet, you post it. Guess at least he had friends with some responsibility! Or maybe his friends aren't as friendly as he thinks. Hey Facebook, I killed a guy two weeks ago...shhh, don't tell anyone.

Re:How is this gasping news (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42487121)

You're not even accurate. Being a moron and driving drunk, then not stopping in and of itself didn't land him in jail. Being a moron and posting the admission of the crime in question is what landed him in jail. So, slightly more accurate than you're giving credit for. But then, this IS /., after all...

Re:How is this gasping news (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486905)

It's because teenagers are immature and are worse at realizing the consequences (or caring) that's why parents have stuff like curfews and other restrictions despite many idiot slashdotters thinking that's fascist and that teenagers can manage their lives fine without such interference.

Yes most adults are immature too, but once they reach adulthood - they are legally responsible for their actions. So if their parents haven't done a good job or they were just impossible to bring up properly, too bad...

Re:How is this gasping news (-1, Offtopic)

BorgDrone (64343) | about a year ago | (#42487029)

It's because teenagers are immature and are worse at realizing the consequences (or caring)

Which is why you shouldn't let children operate 2000 pound death machines.

Re:How is this gasping news (2, Insightful)

BeanThere (28381) | about a year ago | (#42487077)

You look around, make sure noone sees you and when this turns out to be positive, you keep your fucking mouth shut

And that makes you better, how exactly? Sounds you're as much of a dipshit as the guy in the article.

Social Snitching. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486569)

All the rage in 2013.

Re:Social Snitching. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486643)

Some poor guy's car get wrecked up by an asshole and you are only worried protecting the asshole from paying the consequences? Snitching is absolutely and completely ethical if you are reporting an immoral or unethical act. If an asshole has hurt another person, then you have a duty to snitch. The case where snitching is unethical is when you report a 'crime' that hurts nobody (drug use is a good example).

Re:Social Snitching. (3, Insightful)

Cryacin (657549) | about a year ago | (#42486677)

Exactly. He was just another stupid facepalmer and got exactly what he deserved.

Re:Social Snitching. (4, Insightful)

Dr_Barnowl (709838) | about a year ago | (#42486711)

They're doing him a favour - if he stops drink driving, he's much less likely to end up in a body bag, or worse, maimed or in jail.

Re:Social Snitching. (5, Insightful)

Black LED (1957016) | about a year ago | (#42486877)

Or even worse, hurting or killing someone else.

Re:Social Snitching. (1)

Joce640k (829181) | about a year ago | (#42486951)

This. Next time he hits a car there might be somebody in it.

And there *will* be a next time if you approve of his behavior by inaction (ie. not "snitching").

Re:Social Snitching. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42487129)

Drink driving...new thing? Pass me a rum and coke, I'm off to go somewhere else...

Re:Social Snitching. (0)

KiloByte (825081) | about a year ago | (#42487097)

Drunk driving should come with an attempted murder charge, as that's what it is. I completely fail to understand US laws where they allow such an asshole to drive, even just "from home to work". Quite a few people around here lobby for a lifetime driving ban -- I disagree with them about length (if you were an idiot in your 20s, you may have learned in your 40s), but I'm all for such a ban being strict.

Re:Social Snitching. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42487117)

Actually the world would be a better place if more people snitched when it's rationally a good idea (as in this case) rather than not snitching because of tribal/peer loyalty.

Not just snitching. The world would be a better place if patriotic soldiers killed leaders who tried to start wars for stupid reasons. Make them be the first ones to die for the country, you might be the second one to die but you're saving a lot of lives.

Yes it's betrayal, but the leader betrayed the country first. Note: before you do it you have to be very sure the leader is doing the wrong thing - e.g. it's not just your belief, but the majority of the citizens (who may be against the war but in no position to do anything about it).

eCrimes division (4, Insightful)

wild_quinine (998562) | about a year ago | (#42486581)

That you can be arrested for admitting to crimes on Facebook is only news these days for the people getting arrested.

Treating this story as news in this day and age smacks of the "Same old crime.... but on a COMPUTER!!!" syndrome that we've been criticising for a decade or more.

Re:eCrimes division (4, Insightful)

You're All Wrong (573825) | about a year ago | (#42486627)

I thought what we liked criticising here was "same old invention ... but on a COMPUTER!!!", so much so there's an entire /. section devoted to such stories.

Re:eCrimes division (0)

Zemran (3101) | about a year ago | (#42486953)

He was arrested because 2 of his 'friends' grassed him up. Facebook was just a trivial part of the non story that gave it a tenuous link to this site. If you read it you will even find out that being drunk is not even a real part of the story as all the police can show is that his car was in an accident and he did not stop.

Wait a month and then seriously main the 2 friends.

Upside Down World (2, Insightful)

BlackPignouf (1017012) | about a year ago | (#42486611)

Skating, smoking weed & playing video games is evil and dangerous, but
smoking cigarettes, owning guns & drinking and driving is cool, safe and "classic".
Freaking idiots!

Re:Upside Down World (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486679)

Classy. Throwing gun ownership in with driving drunk. Asshat.

Re:Upside Down World (0)

Goose In Orbit (199293) | about a year ago | (#42486709)

Pot, kettle, black.

In the wrong hands - both actions are potentially lethal.

Re:Upside Down World (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486727)

Driving a car AT ALL is potentially lethal. So is climbing a tree. I don't see what you are getting at.

Re:Upside Down World (4, Insightful)

MBGMorden (803437) | about a year ago | (#42486941)

Driving drunk is ALWAYS wrong. 99% of gun owners do absolutely nothing wrong with their guns.

Re:Upside Down World (1, Informative)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | about a year ago | (#42486993)

Driving drunk is ALWAYS wrong.

Because it's defined that way, d'oh...

99% of gun owners do absolutely nothing wrong with their guns.

In many parts of the world, those 99% of gun owners do something wrong with their gun: owning it. (yes, in many parts of the world gun ownership itself is forbidden, except very few specific exceptions...)

Re:Upside Down World (4, Insightful)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about a year ago | (#42487081)

In many parts of the world, those 99% of gun owners do something wrong with their gun: owning it. (yes, in many parts of the world gun ownership itself is forbidden, except very few specific exceptions...)

No... they do something illegal. Being illegal doesn't make something wrong. In many parts of the world owning a bible is illegal.

Re:Upside Down World (0)

Goose In Orbit (199293) | about a year ago | (#42487049)

To paraphrase slightly:
"99% of nuclear weapons owners do absolutely nothing wrong with their nuclear weapons"

Does that mean that everyone should have them? After all, they're only there for protection...

I know... deliberately absurd...

Re:Upside Down World (2)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about a year ago | (#42487103)

Yes, that's the pro gun argument. We should all own nukes. And your argument boils down to banning guns, knives, rolling pins, hammers, and government funding for padding the sharp corners of coffee tables.

Re:Upside Down World (3, Insightful)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | about a year ago | (#42486981)

Alcool doesn't wreck cars, peopl do.

Re:Upside Down World (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42487039)

Alcool doesn't wreck cars, peopl do.

But alcohol does wreck people.

Re:Upside Down World (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486735)

Welcome to 'Merica. Home of the racists, gun nuts, religious idiots, sexists.
Oh say can you see, by the brains logic light, what so profoundly we failed

Re:Upside Down World (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42487111)

Skating, smoking weed & playing video games is evil and dangerous

You forgot sex.

Not FB (2, Informative)

udachny (2454394) | about a year ago | (#42486613)

While I am no fan of FB, this is not a case of FB landing a teen in jail, it's a case of a mouthy teen and his ratty 'friend' (not that I condone drunk driving and hit and run, but let's call things what they are).

Re:Not FB (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486649)

If you let a friend get away with a drunk hit and run, you do in fact condone the activity. "Snitching" is not something to be looked down upon unless the infraction had zero real consequences.

Re:Not FB (1)

Teun (17872) | about a year ago | (#42486909)

Judging by the drunkards own remark on FB he was not exactly repentant and I consider it a wholly responsible action to report this idiot before he would cause more and more serious damage, I don't see a ratty friend or snitch anywhere.

Nice friends (-1, Troll)

loufoque (1400831) | about a year ago | (#42486619)

What nice friends those guys are, to send their friend to jail.

Re:Nice friends (4, Insightful)

zdzichu (100333) | about a year ago | (#42486629)

If you get to know about a crime and do not report it, you automatically become an accomplice. He basically forced them to report him.

Re:Nice friends (4, Insightful)

SomePgmr (2021234) | about a year ago | (#42486705)

Besides which, "friends" means something completely different on Facebook.

In the real world, they're people that would slap you in the face for being a dangerous shithead. On facebook, they're often just people that were in the same yearbook as you, once upon a time.

Re:Nice friends (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486803)

If you get to know about a crime and do not report it, you automatically become an accomplice. He basically forced them to report him.

An accomplice is present at the crime. You'd become an accessory.

Re:Nice friends (3, Informative)

Kjella (173770) | about a year ago | (#42486977)

As far as I can tell this is not actually true, at least not in the US. IANAL, but the people here [lawyers.com] seem to be. As long as you're not in any way an accessory before or after the fact, as long as you remain silent and don't misrepresent or obstruct the course of justice by lying about not seeing anything when you did and as long as the victim isn't in your custody like being the parent or guardian and you don't have a professional relationship like a teacher, doctor or psychologist who has extra legal obligations then there's no general legal requirement to report crime. Even the crime of misprision [cornell.edu] require you to conceal the crime, not mere failing to report it. If you're just a completely unrelated bystander, you can do nothing. Cheering them on would make you an accessory, though.

Re:Nice friends (5, Insightful)

DiamondGeezer (872237) | about a year ago | (#42486639)

Do you wait until your friend kills someone before you do the right thing?

Re:Nice friends (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486723)

like/+1?

Re:Nice friends (-1, Troll)

loufoque (1400831) | about a year ago | (#42486775)

Even if my friends kill someone, I'll still support them.
That's what true friendship is about.

Re:Nice friends (4, Insightful)

jamesh (87723) | about a year ago | (#42486899)

Even if my friends kill someone, I'll still support them.
That's what true friendship is about.

Being drunk behind the wheel of a car is a dangerous thing to be doing. If it was my friend i'd be dobbing them in too, for their safety and the safety of my other friends (and family, and strangers). I would be giving them the chance to turn themselves in first, but they'd need to be quick. That's the sort of support they need, even if it isn't what they want.

In any case, a true friend wouldn't put me in the position where I had to make such a choice.

Re:Nice friends (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42487125)

Can't believe I just saw a "no true friends" fallacy on slashdot... Oh wait ;)

Re:Nice friends (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486913)

If your friends kill someone and it isn't in the course of defending themselves or their loved ones, then they are a bad person and so are you for supporting them. Friendship sometimes requires tough love and contrary to popular belief, is rarely something that lasts forever. If you don't know when to say enough is enough and let them go, then you're not your own person.

Re:Nice friends (2)

TheTurtlesMoves (1442727) | about a year ago | (#42486921)

Real freinds prevent that from happening. Even at the cost of the friendship.

Very few people can handel the emotioal cost of killing someone even in a genuine accedent. And in the case of drink driving there is a good chance that the person killed is at least another friend.

Re:Nice friends (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486997)

Real friends don't let their friends go around killing people. So unless they killed someone I believe deserved killing and is escaping the system (known mobster, evil dictator), I'd report them to the authorities.

But I might still visit them in jail. That's what true friendship is about.

Re:Nice friends (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486657)

Because best friends help you bury the bodies instead of letting the police know and hoping you'll start being responsible for your actions. I'm sure they did not want him in jail, but they just wanted the moron to learn it's not cool nor all right to fuck up other people's property and run off.

Re:Nice friends (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42487079)

Um, yeah, but these weren't his "besties". His "bestie" should have been there in the car with him, because when booze is your co-pilot you need a navigator.

Re:Nice friends (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486681)

You fail society.

Re:Nice friends (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about a year ago | (#42486695)

Are these real friends or Facebook "friends"? If a close friend admits to driving drunk, I'd keep quiet about it (after trying to convince him not to do it again). If a vague Facebook acquaintance brags about driving drunk and a hit-and-run, then yes, I'd be on the phone with the police too. In the long run, this probably benefits everyone, including the drunk idiot.

Re:Nice friends (2)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about a year ago | (#42486769)

Are these real friends or Facebook "friends"?

Excellent point. The English language needs a new term to differentiate between "real" friends and "Facebook" friends. Something like "f-friends", "eff-friends" or "fuh-riends".

The Forum is open for suggestions. But please, no terms including the word "cyber". That term is way overloaded.

Re:Nice friends (1)

gnasher719 (869701) | about a year ago | (#42486887)

Are these real friends or Facebook "friends"? If a close friend admits to driving drunk, I'd keep quiet about it (after trying to convince him not to do it again). If a vague Facebook acquaintance brags about driving drunk and a hit-and-run, then yes, I'd be on the phone with the police too. In the long run, this probably benefits everyone, including the drunk idiot.

In the UK, there's a police phone number that you can call to shop a criminal. Their statistics are that the callers are 1/3rd each "concerned citizens", friends and family who want to stop you from getting deeper into whatever shit you are getting yourself into, and one third criminals trying to get rid of the competition.

Re:Nice friends (1)

Dan541 (1032000) | about a year ago | (#42486947)

Are these real friends or Facebook "friends"? If a close friend admits to driving drunk, I'd keep quiet about it (after trying to convince him not to do it again).

Personally I'd report a real friend unless they when back to the scene to give their details to the car owner. If they aren't willing to compensate their victim then I don't want to know them.

Re:Nice friends (4, Insightful)

timmyf2371 (586051) | about a year ago | (#42486721)

For me, my "obligations" to friends and family would stop depending on the nature of the crime. For example, if a friend or family member was committing a "victimless crime" such as taking illegal drugs, I would absolutely feel no need to report this. But for something like drink driving, you can be certain I'd reporting this.

Re:Nice friends (1)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | about a year ago | (#42486949)

For example, if a friend or family member was committing a "victimless crime" such as taking illegal drugs, I would absolutely feel no need to report this. But for something like drink driving, you can be certain I'd reporting this.

You know, in most cases, drunk driving is a victimless crime (although not in this particular case, admittedly...).

And I'm sure, you're not really calling police after people leave a well wined party you were both at with their car... (and being family members, you certainly do have loads of opportunities to attend the same parties, and observe each other's drinking behavior...)

Re:Nice friends (1)

fafaforza (248976) | about a year ago | (#42486743)

If I knew of a friend, even a close one, that routinely drove drunk, and didn't listen to anyone's warnings and protestations, then the next logical step would be to report them. Or would you prefer that this kid hit a pedestrian, instead of a parked car. Cause I've seen this happen with asshat drunks who left kids without mothers.

Re:Nice friends (5, Insightful)

TheGoodNamesWereGone (1844118) | about a year ago | (#42486771)

You! Out of the gene pool! The little shit could've killed someone, and you're worried that someone told on him?

Re:Nice friends (-1, Flamebait)

loufoque (1400831) | about a year ago | (#42486785)

It doesn't matter if someone you don't know dies.
It does matter, however, if a friend gets his life ruined by going to prison.

Re:Nice friends (3, Informative)

TheTurtlesMoves (1442727) | about a year ago | (#42486979)

We [Humans] are not good at killing each other despite popular opinion. Having serveral friends that were involed in fatal accidents [not them of course] that where not their fault and they were cleared of fault promtly by the police. I assure you the for vast majority of us it *does* matter if someone you don't know dies. It matters a great deal.

Added to that in this case, is that for a drunk driver he/she is most likely going to kill someone they know, someone you know.

Idiot x2 (4, Insightful)

BumpyCarrot (775949) | about a year ago | (#42486637)

Idiotic for driving drunk. Even more so for admitting to doing something illegal, stupid and dangerous to self, and admitting it to people who apparently have an interest in the subject's well-being.

Re:Idiot x2 (2)

Gordonjcp (186804) | about a year ago | (#42486747)

It does surprised me how much drunk driving is seen as "okay" in the US. Obviously it's not actually "okay" but people seem to be a lot more casual about it.

Re:Idiot x2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486927)

It's just not that black and white. In my opinion, there's a huge difference between driving after having had a beer three hours ago and driving when you're so drunk you can't walk straight any more. The former is bad (it lowers your inhibitions), but the latter is really criminal.

Re:Idiot x2 (1)

Sepodati (746220) | about a year ago | (#42486937)

It's because the punishment is pretty light. If the punishment was no more driving, ever, then it'd be different, I think.

Plus the lack of public trans in so many areas is part of the issue, although it's usually just the excuse.

Re:Idiot x2 (1)

jamesh (87723) | about a year ago | (#42486983)

It does surprised me how much drunk driving is seen as "okay" in the US. Obviously it's not actually "okay" but people seem to be a lot more casual about it.

I guess it's still viewed as "okay" in Australia too in some circles, but the people i know who've been done for drink driving are very quiet about it.

facebook money (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486689)

People are making money from Facebook while some people are busy committing crime with it http://www.moniways.com/

Stuebenville rape police could learn from this (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42486725)

Unfortunately however it seems lots of corruption surrounding that case if the info liveleak Steubenville files [blogs.ru] are to be believed.

The secret... (1)

WegianWarrior (649800) | about a year ago | (#42486759)

...to do a crime and get away is simple: Don't tell the world about it afterwards - at least not until the statute of limitations have run out.

Granted, the easier solution for a blabbermouth would be not doing the crime in the first place - something I think is an even better idea for everybody when the crime is drunk driving.

Bragging about crimes in public (4, Interesting)

teslar (706653) | about a year ago | (#42486787)

is never a good idea.

I'm reminded of the Belgian who had a video of himself doing 300km/h on the motorway [youtube.com] posted to youtube.

He was driving an Aston Marting Vantage Carbon Black edition of which only three were sold in Belgium. Didn't take the police long to figure out which one it was.

Re:Bragging about crimes in public (3, Informative)

Joce640k (829181) | about a year ago | (#42486995)

Now THAT is stupid.

If you live in Belgium you can drive to Germany in no time ... and there's no speed limits in Germany.

He was basically being ratted out by his own frien (2)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | about a year ago | (#42486897)

He was basically being ratted out by his own "friends". If you brag about something illegal, be sure you can trust the people you brag too. Has been like that for ages, nothing new with Facebook.

the pumpkin side of the anus (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42487065)

a pumpkin stuck in my rectum but it feels so good,
i do the twist dance and it's understood
no one messes with my pumpkin when i suck it up with my anus
or poo it out and watch what looks like a jelly textured, dorito flavored feral like wet rag.

come on baby - let's do the twist!

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