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Former Leader of Film Piracy Group Sentenced To Five Years In Prison

Soulskill posted about a year and a half ago | from the assault-with-a-deadly-upload dept.

Piracy 183

colinneagle writes "The acknowledged leader of once prolific movie piracy group IMAGiNE was sent to prison this week for five years, one of the longest sentences ever handed down for criminal copyright infringement. In addition to his prison term, Jeramiah Perkins, 40, of Portsmouth, Va., was sentenced to serve three years of supervised release and ordered to pay $15,000 in restitution. On Aug. 29, 2012, Perkins pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit criminal copyright infringement. According to the Department of Justice, Perkins was indicted along with three other defendants on April 18, 2012, for their roles in the IMAGiNE Group, an organized online piracy ring that sought to become the premier group to first release Internet copies of movies only showing in theaters. According to court documents, Perkins directed and participated in using receivers and recording devices in movie theaters to secretly capture the audio sound tracks of copyrighted movies. They then synchronized the audio files with illegally recorded video files to create completed movie files suitable for sharing over the Internet via BitTorrent file sharing technology."

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U$A (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42487775)

worst than China.

Re:U$A (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42487833)

Hi, there. I lived in China about half of my life. I assure you that isn't the case. Not even close. If you are rich, China is great. If you are 99.999% of the population, China is very unpleasant in ways that you do not understand in the west.

Re:U$A (1)

0111 1110 (518466) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487871)

So you hate China so much that you would prefer to live in a US prison? Being poor in the US is also quite unpleasant even if you are not one of the unlucky ones snared by the ubiquitous prison system.

Re:U$A (2, Insightful)

Rockoon (1252108) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487925)

Being poor in the US is also quite unpleasant...

Compared to what?

People like you have no damn clue what being poor means. Subsistence farming. Look it up.

Re:U$A (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488011)

Compared to not being poor?

People like you have no clue. Yeah, it's a big fucking pile of laughs, living on the street, panhandling so you can hopefully buy something off the McDonald's dollar menu sometime this week.

But ohmygod, China has it worse, WE'RE NUMBER ONE, MURRICA FUCK YEAH

Re:U$A (2)

ranton (36917) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488125)

You have got to be trolling at this point. Using homeless people to represent what life is like for most people in the US. Get a clue.

Re:U$A (4, Insightful)

Rockoon (1252108) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488329)

You have got to be trolling at this point. Using homeless people to represent what life is like for most people in the US. Get a clue.

Not only that, he cited panhandling, an activity that when conducted in the western world nets more in a week than many in the 3rd and 2nd world earn in an entire year.

These people really have no clue what its like outside the western world.

India, population 1.2 billion.
32.7% of Indians live on less than $1.25 per day.
68.7% of Indians live on less than $2.00 per day.

Thats more than 2.6 times the entire population of the United States, in one single country, that lives on less than $2 per day.

Poor is relative. On a global scale, nobody at all in the United States is poor.

Re:U$A (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488819)

Do any of you wonder WHY those countries are shitholes? Could it possibly be because of the PEOPLE who live there, and more specifically, because of their RACE?

THAT is why China is a giant gulag - the so-called 'Chinese' are the descendants of the WHITE people who used to inhabit ALL of what is now called 'China', before they were invaded and raped by Mongol hoardes, who killed all the white men, and raped all the white women - producing the scum who are known today as the 'Chinese'.

That is why Africa is a giant shithole which nobody wants to live in, the same goes for India.

Those countries are vile places to live because MOST of the people who live there are scum, who couldn't care less about anybody else.

Re:U$A (4, Insightful)

aaaaaaargh! (1150173) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488861)

Poor is relative. On a global scale, nobody at all in the United States is poor.

It's not clear what point you're trying to make, because you seem to be contradicting yourself. Poverty is always relative. If you want to compare levels of poverty you cannot take into account values like "32.7% of Indians live on less then $1.25 per day" but need to consider the goods people can actually buy for the given amount of money in their country.

People who are about to starve to death in the US might fare well with the same amount of money in some rural part of India and, vice versa, an amount of money that might allow you to survive without problems in some part of the world would not allow you to survive at all in the US without the help of some charity. Such comparisons are completely pointless, because people have to survive where they are living, of course.

Re:U$A (4, Insightful)

Rockoon (1252108) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488921)

It's not clear what point you're trying to make, because you seem to be contradicting yourself. Poverty is always relative. If you want to compare levels of poverty you cannot take into account values like "32.7% of Indians live on less then $1.25 per day" but need to consider the goods people can actually buy for the given amount of money in their country.

That $1.25 is adjusted for purchasing power.

In other words, other people arent the idiots you think that they are just because what they are telling you doesnt jive with the shit that you yourself cannot back up with facts. Its your view of the world that is wrong.

That's right. (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488025)

In many parts of the World, a US prison would be living like a prince: 3 meals, shelter, clothing, TV and other recreation.

Which makes it quite sad, actually. To think that a US prison is better living than what over a billion people in this World have.

Re:That's right. (1)

jedidiah (1196) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488153)

You're overlooking the part where you're kept in a cage with animals.

Re:That's right. (4, Insightful)

Nidi62 (1525137) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488181)

For a lot of the people he's talking about, they live with literal animals, in a room about the size of a cell.

Re:That's right. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488575)

But the goats and sheep and cows rarely try and assrape.

Re:That's right. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488543)

You must be an American to write such an arrogant and ignorant statement. But that's okay, you get modded up by your fellow countrymen. USA #1, USA #1, Freedom, Freedom, Better in a US prison that in one of them foreign mudhuts. Freedom Freeeeeeeeedom.

Re:That's right. (1)

flimflammer (956759) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488839)

You're an idiot.

Re:That's right. (4, Informative)

Trepidity (597) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488789)

To most civilized parts of the world U.S. prisons look positively barbaric, though. Most first-world countries have managed to figure out how to run a prison system without high levels of rape, for one thing.

Re:That's right. (2, Insightful)

Jafafa Hots (580169) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488969)

It's not that we in the US can't run a prison without rape, it's that as a society we don't WANT to.

We LIKE it that prisoners are raped - we joke about it.

Prison officials like it too. They have hundreds of inmates for each guard. Bad odds. So you encourage racism in prison so the prisoners are fighting and killing each other based on racial hatreds instead of fighting and killing the people holding them captive.

Same way we run our government.

Re:That's right. (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488847)

...3 meals, shelter, clothing, TV and other recreation...

And don't forget, cheaper medical care [yahoo.com] than you get on the outside.

Re:That's right. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488871)

I think its all relative, in mubai you can do well as a panhandler too. There is no constant measure or bar for success anywhere, 2$ there will net you a mercedes while 2$ here will net you a big mac etc...

With 20$ there you might be able to open up and make a small living selling pirated CD's, here you'd just wind up in prison, and have abou the same quality of life, with less freedom.

Re:U$A (1)

Trepidity (597) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488797)

There are a reasonable number of subsistence farmers in the US. Visit Appalachia or the Mississippi valley along the MS/AL border sometime.

Re:U$A (1)

ranton (36917) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488043)

I am sure he would rather live in the US and follow our very straight forward laws. And from my conversations with people from China, I would much rather be poor in the US than live like 99% of Chinese citizens.

Re:U$A where i live (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488289)

in san diego county the "authorities" find dead people every day in the desert , people from mexico trying to cross into the usa will literally risk thier lives by dying of exposure in the desert so that they can live here in a cardboard box down in the canyons ,trying to hussle work mowing lawns or whatever crappy day work that they can get, many people (employers)here exploit these people EVERYway that they can be exploited.
i know that we think its fucked up; here but, really is it so bad that you or your uncles or aunts will literally risk your life and maybe die just to come to the "land of opportunity"i talking to them they laff like hell at the gringos bitching about thier goverment problems---we dont have many problems at all ---only answers--too many fucking answers
cb

Re:U$A where i live (1)

murder_face (2574275) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488375)

Don't forget the "river rats" down by Qualcomm. I had a buddy from down there and he told me that place is a third world country itself...

Re:U$A (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488151)

You are so bizarrely out of touch with the world outside of the US, American style tourism, and the American news media. Poor in the US doesn't mean the same thing as poor in most of the world, aside from the homeless which is certainly tragic.

I'm proud to be an American, also proud not to be born here and have a little bit more prospective. I'm far from rich in America, in fact I'm on the lower end of middle class. The opportunities we have... really makes me shake my head when people think life in China is somehow better, equal, remotely similar.

Re:U$A (4, Insightful)

lgw (121541) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488253)

being poor in the US is also quite unpleasant

"Daddy bought me the wrong BMW. Life is Pain!"

âoeI have to get dressed so that I donâ(TM)t look too lazy when I go out to pay the gardener. Woe is me!â

"There's nothing to drink at home except an unlimited supply of clean water from the tap. Pity me!"

I grew up poor in the US. I didn't know a single person who starved to death. I didn't know a single person who was "disappeared" by the government. I didn't know a single person who died from parasites, or lost a limb in the factory they worked in as a child.

Your "White Whine" is appalling.

Re:U$A (5, Funny)

lgw (121541) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488271)

"My favorite blog still doen't have UTF8 support after all these years. My life sucks!"

Re:U$A (1)

amiga3D (567632) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488359)

My local food bank doesn't have any caviar. Life sucks hard!

Re:U$A (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488347)

If your idea of growing up poor is having a BMW and a gardener, I think our definitions of poor are very different.

I don't know anyone who's starving to death you're quite right. I do however know people who can't afford much more than bread and processed 'ham' when they also have to pay for the bus to get to work to afford that bread.

I also don't know anyone who has starved to death in the third world, where i have spent several years overall. I do know plenty of people in the third world and in the first world who get sick through the poor diet they have, which is all they can afford or find.

The difference is, in the third world you don't always need to buy food as the undeveloped nature of the environment often means there is still food growing naturally. Not so much in the urban centers of the US.

Re:U$A (1)

Uberbah (647458) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487993)

Hi, there. I lived in China about half of my life. I assure you that isn't the case

Then I assure you that you didn't glance at prison populations. The United States has more prisoners than China, both per-capita and in raw numbers.

If you are rich, China is great.

Just like in Amurica. If you are rich, and especially if you're a rich banker or defense contractor, the rule of law simply doesn't apply to you. That's for us plebes....

Re:U$A (1)

ranton (36917) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488107)

But it isn't like many people in prison are there for crimes they didn't know they were committing. It is pretty easy to stay out of prison. Even of you don't agree with the laws, it isn't hard to follow them.

Re:U$A (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488701)

>Even of you don't agree with the laws, it isn't hard to follow them.

You do realize the average American commits three felonies a day, right?

It's more like it's hard to get caught for a lot of the crimes you do accidentally commit.

Re:U$A (1)

lgw (121541) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488285)

Would you listen to yourself for a minute? You're seriously comparing the minor corruption we have here in the States with life in a Communist Dictatorship?

Think for just a moment why china might not have so many people in prison!

Specially equipped âoeexecution trucksâ should be used nationwide by courts to execute criminals immediately after sentencing, the countryâ(TM)s highest court has recommended, according to a report by Agence France-Presse.

The Beijing News daily said the high court of China's Liaoning province had recently bought such a vehicle for 400,000 yuan (48,300 dollars). "Many large cities have permanent execution grounds, but in smaller cities it is difficult to carry out death sentences, so this is why we have these mobile execution units,â a government official was quoted.

A non-wikipedia [fleetowner.com] cite, even, though you can find it there too.

Re:U$A (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488439)

Our government just supplies impoverished communities with crack, heroin and firearms and allows the population to kill themselves.

Re:U$A (1)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488069)

I assure you that isn't the case

I'm sorry, but one of the rules of /. is that no poster may state that somewhere in the world is worse than the USA. Starving children in a North Korean Stalinist gulag are way better off than any American child eating Doritos and watching Honey Boo Boo. Oddly enough, it seems like none of the Slashdotters who have this opinion seem willing to move away from the USA to somewhere 'better' like China.

...and no, I'm not an American and I don't live in the USA.

Re:U$A (1)

Mikkeles (698461) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488945)

...one of the rules of /. is that no poster may state that somewhere in the world is worse than the USA.

The other rule seems to be:no poster may state that somewhere in the world is better than the USA:)

U$A = (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42487801)

Hollywood's little b1tch.

15k in fines? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42487807)

Surely someone has forgotten a bunch of zeros?

Re:15k in fines? (2)

Joce640k (829181) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487817)

"pleaded guilty"...

Somebody cut a deal.

Re:15k in fines? (1)

guises (2423402) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487899)

Yeah, the fine is surprisingly sensible compared to the prison sentence and the usual monetary penalties sought by the copyright industry. I can only assume that the terrible prison sentence was intended to be the bulk of the penalty and without that the fine would have been much much higher.

Re:15k in fines? (1)

Kjella (173770) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488003)

Unless that was just the criminal legal system and the studios have yet to file civil lawsuit for a couple hundred billions. I think this guy can forget about owning anything ever again.

IMAGiNE - general population (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42487859)

IMAGiNE: biting the pillow every night at lights out
IMAGiNE: a new found friend with a crowbar for a penis
IMAGiNE: your anus constantly in pain
IMAGiNE: learning to smoke cock like a king snake
IMAGiNE: gang bangers who demand $$
IMAGiNE: being carried around like a toy dog
IMAGiNE....

I don't know, I can IMAGiNE a lot!

Re:IMAGiNE - general population (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488103)

You don't have the first clue about prison.

All you can do is make smarts remarks which reveal how profoundly
afraid you are of life in general.

I doubt your tiny little mind can conceive of how pathetic you really are.

Re:IMAGiNE - general population (1)

murder_face (2574275) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488555)

I can't say it's a bad thing, but the only thing the general public know about prison is what they see in the movies. IMHO the worst thing about prison is the fact that it allows you to branch out in your criminal enterprises.

Re:IMAGiNE - general population (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488675)

And I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is, Group W's
where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after
committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly
looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father
rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And
they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the
bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest
father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly
'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me
and said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay
$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"
And I said, "Littering." And they all moved away from me on the bench
there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I
said, "And creating a nuisance." And they all came back, shook my hand,
and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing,
father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the
bench...

Overkill much? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42487861)

I realize that this group went out of their way to break the laws here (whether you agree with them or not) but hard core prison time for this? I can see the conversation now, "What are you in for? I recorded crappy movies and put them online. What are you in for? Rape." I would imagine (no pun intended) there are far more creative punishments that would actually apply to this crime that has the added benefit of having an empty bed in prison to get another rapist/murderer off the street.

Re:Overkill much? (1)

devleopard (317515) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487971)

Most rapists are convicted at the state level, not the federal level, where this conviction occurred.

Re:Overkill much? (1)

MysteriousPreacher (702266) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488079)

I agree, they broke the law and should be dealt with. Five years though? Seems to be something that really should be dealt with through financial punishments, and perhaps a pretty light custodial/supervisory sentence. Five years in prison, followed by three years of supervision, seems way over the top for even wilful copyright infringement of the kind they were engaged in.

Any idea what the motive was here? Were they making money out of this, or was it just for bragging rights?

Re:Overkill much? (0)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488371)

Yes, they were making money out of this. They were selling the pirated movies.

IMHO there is a big difference between copyright infringement for personal use and for the purpose of making a profit. The latter is a common activity of criminal organizations aka the Mafia.

It is very likely this person was running a criminal organization engaging in a variety of illegal activities, and copped a plea to this one charge.

Slashdot of course is incapable of making such an in depth analysis of a story and reacts only to the internet equivalent of a sound bite.

 

So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42487875)

Financial ruin for life ($1.92M fine), or 5 years (probably less with good behavior), parole, and $15k fine.

I guess I would much rather be the leader of a tele-stink ring, and suffer those consequences than share 6 songs on KaZaa. Seems like masquerading around like a spy might be more fun than clicking "add to queue", as well as a much less harsh penalty.

Would you like the death penalty, life or 5 years. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42487879)

The US legal system at its best. When cutting a deal still results in a long sentence and big fine.

gotta keep the prison system full (2, Insightful)

0111 1110 (518466) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487885)

The guy didn't harm anyone and we're locking him up in a cage for 5 years. Well I guess it serves him right for living in this stupid country. Being born here was the dumbest thing I've ever done and remaining here when I could leave is even dumber.

Re:gotta keep the prison system full (1)

lgw (121541) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488317)

Well, leave then. Plenty of places will accept you if you have a degree. Don't let the door hit you where the dog should have bit you.

Re:gotta keep the prison system full (2)

jd2112 (1535857) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488323)

No one harmed? Somewhere there is a movie exec still driving a 2012 S-class Mercedes because he can't afford a new one. How can people live in such utter poverty?

Outrageous (3, Insightful)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487889)

Prison time for copyright infringement? Really?

Just another sign of how completely out of control the copyright system has become.

Re:Outrageous (1)

devleopard (317515) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487979)

Prison time for conspiracy, not infringement.

Re:Outrageous (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42487989)

Yeah, but if this guy hadn't been pirating then the movie industry wouldn't have lost out on billions of dollars of revenue and this recession thing might not have been so bad. After all, half the people without jobs lost them because of him.

Re:Outrageous (5, Insightful)

Internal Modem (1281796) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488009)

Maybe it's just the fact that a physical structure (the movie theater) has been compromised in a way similar to breaking and entering, but I honestly think there's a difference between copying a DVD and setting up receivers in a movie theater to capture a proprietary audio broadcast.

He made more than $400,000 in profits from his illegal wiretapping. I think part of the defendant's actions do cross the line between intellectual property theft and criminal theft, especially because he set up PayPal accounts to accept payment for IMAGINE's releases.

Why should he feel free to profit off the expenses paid by the movie theater for retail space, electricity, equipment, and movie fees? At a certain point, even if the theater still has the item that is claimed to have been stolen, the defendant is stealing his for-profit content from the movie theater.

Re:Outrageous (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488101)

Maybe it's just the fact that a physical structure (the movie theater) has been compromised in a way similar to breaking and entering, but I honestly think there's a difference between copying a DVD and setting up receivers in a movie theater to capture a proprietary audio broadcast.

I don't. I think the dividing line is the commercial benefit. Nobody should ever see jail time for downloading copyrighted materials. But selling them without permission? How else are we supposed to provide them an incentive not to do this? On one hand, copyright has been distended all out of proportion, on the other hand these guys were selling current media and the more current the better. I have limited sympathy for them. The only sympathy I do have for them is that nobody should be placed into our prison system.

Re:Outrageous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488139)

Indeed. He should have just illegally looted billions from homeowners and he would have gotten off scott-free.

Re:Outrageous (1)

amiga3D (567632) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488369)

Who did that?

Re:Outrageous (1)

CharmElCheikh (1140197) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488205)

"setting up receivers"? "wiretapping"? Why do you think you need to make it sound like he was a spy to justify the sentence?

Re:Outrageous (1)

Internal Modem (1281796) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488367)

Because I read the article?

Re:Outrageous (1)

Kjella (173770) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488497)

I don't really see it, maybe if it was an unique theme park ride that lost a lot of its "uniqueness" when people could see it without going there but the movie theater he recorded it in didn't suffer any particular negative effects - not any more than any other movie theater trying to show the same movie at least. Sure it's probably a violation of the cinema's rules like not bringing your own food and drinks, but we don't put people in prison for 5 years because of that. The clash is between this guy and the owners of the copyright, just like with DVDs.

I think part of the defendant's actions do cross the line between intellectual property theft and criminal theft

From something that it wasn't to something that it wasn't? It passed the boundary between copyright infringement and criminal copyright infringement, but nothing left their possession so nothing was stolen. Why does it have to be stolen to be "serious"? Espionage is serious. Leaking top secret documents or your medical records is serious. Comparing it to something entirely different instead only shows a lack of merits for why copying information should be wrong in this case.

Re:Outrageous (1)

Internal Modem (1281796) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488569)

He did make over $400,000 in profits. It's hard to argue he didn't take that money from theaters that were paying for the rights to show the movie. He didn't do this for altruistic reasons. He set up a business that was based on ripping off others content.

Re:Outrageous (2)

kawabago (551139) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488735)

The fact that he could make such a profit tells us the content is over priced to begin with. That he could pay for technology to capture the content, deliver it and still make a profit tells the whole story. The entertainment industry creates copyright infringers by demanding far too much for content. Lower the price, you'll eliminate the infringers. Of course, you can't tell anyone that they are asking too much for something they own, even if it's incredibly easy to steal, like content. The war on drugs suffers the same problem. When drug laws are strengthened, illicit drugs increase in price due to increased risk. That increases profits, which attracts more violent criminals, so drug violence increases. The converse is also true, decreasing drug penalties decreases drug profits and drives violent criminals out of the market. Violence can't be maintained without plenty of money for people to fight over.

Re:Outrageous (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488775)

One gets to set the price on the products one labors to produce, from film maker to car maker to farmer to bicycle shop.

That's what separates civilization from a hunter-gatherer society -- it protects the product of peoples' effort from the hunter-gathering impulse to just take it like it is a fruit on a wild tree somewhere.

now we can be safe (1)

amoeba1911 (978485) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487913)

I am so glad our Justice Department is busy locking up such horrible and dangerous criminals. Thank goodness the Department of Justice is hard at work locking up these criminal masterminds. Now we can all feel safer.

They go to great lengths to ensure the content industry fat cats don't lose any money, because how else could they afford their eight figure salaries if a few people get their disgusting hands on their content without paying? They might have to go down to ... *gasp* seven figure salaries, ugh just saying it brings chill to my spine. That's unimaginable cruelty! Thank you Department of Justice for using my money to protect the interests of a select few that I don't give a crap about. Thank you, very much.

In the mean while, identity theft is at an all time high. Bravo, Department of Justice! Bravo!

Re:now we can be safe (5, Insightful)

Dopefish_1 (217994) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487937)

At least here, they're going after someone who was systematically and deliberately distributing copyrighted content, rather than just some poor kid running bittorrent.

Re:now we can be safe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488209)

I'd say it's extremely unlikely that Mr. Perkins paid taxes on all the money he made from his IMAGiNE endeavours. So your basic stance is who cares about content owners rights...who cares about tax evasion...identity theft is the only thing that matters right now. Good job genius.

Re:now we can be safe (1)

amiga3D (567632) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488405)

You do know these corporations are publicly owned? That people who work for a living have 401K retirement programs that share in the profits of these films? Unlike so many that simply downloaded films for their own use this dude had a business going where he was making hundreds of thousands of dollars in profit. He is the type of pirate who the criminal copyright laws were written for originally. He belongs in prison.

Re:now we can be safe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488537)

Wow, he was making money. How awful. He copied/allowed others to copy data. Truly terrible!

Re:now we can be safe (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488491)

Hey moron, guess what? This asshole raking in six figures from copyright infringement IS one of the fat cats...and he didn't even pay any of the expenses of creating the movie. And I'm pretty sure that the Intellectual Property division of the DOJ doesn't have shit to do with identity theft.

Oh Good... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42487933)

I feel safer already.

IMAGiNE (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42487939)

Noo! They had quality rips!

What utter crap ... (0, Flamebait)

Crafty Spiker (1225838) | about a year and a half ago | (#42487983)

Until some bankers are in jail along side the "pirates" our justice system is just a sick joke.

Re:What utter crap ... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488031)

As long as they don't start locking up Ohio State football players just because they like to rape young women.

Re:What utter crap ... (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488299)

Should have gone into sports. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488047)

Meanwhile, this guy and his friends [youtube.com] are protected by local authorities.

Thank goodness is wasn't music (1)

turp182 (1020263) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488073)

The fine would be in the billions no doubt.

Re:Thank goodness is wasn't music (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488127)

the 'low' amount was a criminal fine.. the civil action is sure to follow.. that's where the big awards come from in these movie/music cases.

Sad (1)

murder_face (2574275) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488175)

I got busted with other peoples mail, credit cards,fake ids, and a duffel bag full of people's credit reports. 2 years prison and no restitution. How is what the guy did worse?

Re:Sad (0)

jjetson (2041488) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488373)

How does your anus feel loser? lol what kind of dumbass would keep all of that in a duffel bag and have it in their possession. You should be on the worlds dumbest criminals.

Re:Sad (1)

murder_face (2574275) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488473)

Actually my anus made it through unscathed, the minimum security California prison system is fairly nice. Three hot meals and satellite TV.. What can I say, I was EXTREMELY unemployable at the time and needed to eat. Better than mooching off of Mommy (Dad's dead) right?

Re:Sad (1)

jjetson (2041488) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488585)

The fact that you have mail, cards, ids and reports contradicts "needed to eat". You could maybe use that with a single stolen card you got caught using at mcdonalds. But the fact that you had all these different types of material for multiple people...that consequently are all used for identity theft And no stealing from people or stealing their identities isn't better than mooching of your mother. Maybe you need to spend some more time in jail so you understand that.

Re:Sad (1)

murder_face (2574275) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488603)

Actually the time I spent in there was enough to figure it out. It's starting to seem like you are one of those fascist "Once a criminal..." people or you had your identity stolen. Obviously if I was dumb enough to even consider it once then I wasn't very bright at the time. Did you actually hear the *WHOOSH* when you read my comment or was your head so far up your ass that you couldn't tell the forest from the trees?

Re:Sad (1)

jjetson (2041488) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488817)

I didn't hear the "WHOOSH". Maybe one of Perkins associates stole it and is planning on releasing it on the net ;). - See what I did there. The ;) implies a joke or sarcasm. If you want people to understand your subtle sarcasm I suggest using it. I'm not at all a person that believes "Once a criminal..." and haven't had my identity stolen. But when someone admits getting caught with all that and then tries to feed me some BS about "needing to eat" (Which who knows if it was a joke or not) I don't give there words much credit thereafter.

Re:Sad (1)

amiga3D (567632) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488435)

He made 6 figure profit is most likely the reason. Big money usually means big time.

Did he? (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488751)

That is what I find missing from the story, what I remember from the group name is that they were into cams and telesyncs, not proper DVD/Blu-Ray copies. Beyond the novelty value these things are only salable in the most primitive regions of the world where people still have CRT's.

AND if he made such a huge amount of money out of it, why isn't the fine hire? The criminal justice system (this is NOT a civil case like most other cases we hear about) doesn't have high fines BUT it does like to strip criminals of their illgotten gaines since it has long become clear that doing a few years in jail while keeping your millions isn't always such a bad deal. So... where is the confescation of his fortune?

He also admitted he registered domain names for use by the IMAGiNE, and opened e-mail and PayPal accounts to receive donations and payments from persons downloading or buying IMAGiNE releases of pirated copies of motion pictures and other copyrighted works.

That doesn't sound like a pure for financial gain job to me but most groups stay well clear of any financial arrangement whatsoever precisely to avoid being seen as career criminals.

5 years with good behavior really isn't all that long, depending on what he actually did. For profit stealing to me is a whole other kettle of fish then people ripping movies and it costing them money. But I see no evidence that this guy made 6 figure profit. I know lots of companies that don't run 6 figure PROFIT. That is a LOT of money the OP claims that apparently the police missed out on on figured that the guy they are sending to jail for half a decade deserves to keep his ill-gotten gains.

Questions, questions, questions. If only there was a sort of job for which we could employ people that would make them research stories for more details and then share them through some means or another with others.

No sympathy here (0)

jjetson (2041488) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488333)

Perkins isn't gonna get a single ounce of sympathy from me. Whether you agree with the law or not doesn't matter. You can sit here and compare it to other criminal activity all you want. Complain all day and night about how police should be investing time in other things, blah, blah, blah. We've heard it all before every time a piracy topic comes up and guess what, it's still against the law. Perkins 100% broke the law knowingly, so it's time to pay the piper Jeramiah Perkins, of Portsmouth, Va. He knew there was a chance he could get caught and end up in jail, there is a history of movie pirates getting jail time. But he didn't take the necessary precautions to avoid getting caught, and all of a sudden. KNOCK, KNOCK, KNOCK...bad boys, bad boys whatcha gonna do... Bend over Jeramiah, Bubba is now going to stick his junk inside you. Learn how to be a better criminal or don't be one at all.

Re:No sympathy here (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488421)

A little over compensating here aren't we. Would love to have access to your machine(s) and see what you get up to.

Re:No sympathy here (1)

jjetson (2041488) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488541)

Over compensating? 1. He broke the law 2. He knew he was doing it 3. He got caught How do acknowledging and agreeing with the facts become over compensation, and what do my machines have to do with Perkins getting caught and sent to jail. You're trying to somehow redirect this idiots criminal activity and subsequent punishment on to me? lol, grow up. There's no debate going on here.

Re:No sympathy here (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488719)

Yes, and blacks in the US in the 1800s knew it was illegal to be black *and* free. They deserved the penalties they got when they tried to vote. Jim Crow FTW!

Re:No sympathy here (1)

jjetson (2041488) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488771)

AHAHAHAHAHA, OMG. Did you just compare selling copyrighted goods to slavery. FFS give your head a shake. And P.S. that was the 1800's welcome to 2013. Take your time and come up with an analogy that involves dinosaurs next time.

He'll have sex again... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488385)

Don't worry, He'll have sex again.... in PRISON! It won't be with a woman, hell, he might even be the WOMAN!.... Butt he'll have sex again. I promise!

Seriously, people should really consider the consequences of engaging in criminal activity and behavior. Keep it up and you will eventually get caught. If YOU are a criminal engaging in such activities, I suggest you seek professional help from a psychologist or psychiatrist. If you don't, you may end up with an orange jump suit and a pair of shiny ankle bracelets!

Cheers Homey!

He pirated movies (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488415)

And now his butt is going to be pirated in jail!

Good luck! (1)

Errtu76 (776778) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488423)

I remember getting quite a few releases from IMAGiNE back in the days where I still had lots of FTP accounts. Nowadays I don't really know/care who releases it as I just grab it from usenet.

Re:Good luck! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42488607)

IMAGiNE weren't a scene group.

deserved longer (4, Funny)

julian67 (1022593) | about a year and a half ago | (#42488457)

IMAGiNE made telesync cam copies. If that wasn't bad enough they then encoded the already shitty video using xvid thus guaranteeing it would be soft and blocky with muddy colours.

I'd give them another couple of months.

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