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Astronauts Could Get Lazier As Mars Mission Progresses

Unknown Lamer posted about a year ago | from the pass-the-chips dept.

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sciencehabit writes "Imagine life on a spaceship headed to Mars. You and your five crewmates work, exercise, and eat together every day under the glow of fluorescent lights. As the months pass, the sun gets dimmer and communication with Earth gets slower. What does this do to your body? According to an Earth-based experiment in which six volunteers stayed in a windowless 'spaceship' for nearly a year and a half, the monotony, tight living space, and lack of natural light will probably make you sleep more and work less. Space, for all intents and purposes, turns you into a couch potato."

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Star Trek (5, Funny)

Lord_of_the_nerf (895604) | about a year ago | (#42512389)

Explains why Riker stopped shaving second season.

Re:Star Trek (0)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year ago | (#42512469)

Explains why Riker stopped shaving second season.

Make it so, Number One.

Re:Star Trek (4, Funny)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about a year ago | (#42512673)

Man.

These astronauts work 3 days, every five years - taking a round-trip to... NOWHERE!

And you say it's possible for them to get lazier? Wow. :-)

Make it number two, number one!

Don't even USE the word "MAN", BOY (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42513121)

You don't merit its use yourself...

APK

P.S.=> Jeremiah Cornelius is a KNOWN troll -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2238996&cid=36457426 [slashdot.org] and thus, no man, FAR from it...

... apk

Re:Don't even USE the word "MAN", BOY (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42516289)

Dear APK,

I are clearly mentally diseased. I urge you to take advantage of our society's safety nets and health care facilities to get the anti-somethings that you so desperately need. Be careful (but not too careful) not to overdose.

Love, Anonymous Coward.

P.S.=> Why should I use a HOSTS file again? I forgot.

already done (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512401)

I've already done this experiment over 30 times. Its called winter.

Re:already done (2)

aliquis (678370) | about a year ago | (#42512423)

Yeah, I too could had told them what. Being unemployed since long in Sweden.

Most basement dwellers and/or gamers to.

Imagine going to Mars just playing RTS games in the mean time =P

Re:already done (2)

aliquis (678370) | about a year ago | (#42512439)

- But wouldn't you miss the sex? (Say there's no females on the trip for safety reasons.)
- What sex?

Re:already done (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512457)

I've already done this experiment over 30 times. Its called winter.

lolz so so true

Re:already done (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year ago | (#42512641)

I've already done this experiment over 30 times. Its called winter.

Move to California. We're nuts out here. We run, bike, hike, walk dogs, everything in the pouring rain. We're so used to being out and about we can't control outselves.

"Jane!!! Stop this crazy thing! Jane!!!"

So the solutiion is to hang a bunch of wall paper in the space craft of golden hills, vinyards, redwood groves, beaches, granite infested mountain trails and a Jeep.

Re:already done (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512991)

Really? Most Californians I know freak out if it rains. Really rains, not what passes for rain in most of California.

Re:already done (4, Funny)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | about a year ago | (#42513585)

A south puget sounder would stab you in the face with a fair-trade knife for claiming a californian knows rain.

Re:already done (2)

Maow (620678) | about a year ago | (#42515261)

A south puget sounder would stab you in the face with a fair-trade knife for claiming a californian knows rain.

Vancouverite here.

I'd loan you my organic, fair-trade knife, but it's rusted completely away.

F'ing rain.

Re:already done (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512947)

I've already done this experiment over 30 times. Its called winter.

Can't we just move the grow-lights over to the couch so I can get a fake tan while I wait for the next episode of the Walking Dead to be beamed to the ship?

Then americans.. (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512409)

are the best fit to colonize space for sure!

Re:Then americans.. (1)

Sussurros (2457406) | about a year ago | (#42513401)

Look at photos of modern American soldiers and compare them to, say, photos of WW2 American soldiers. I choose soldiers because they are a trained group of people employed by the Federal Government. It could of course be any contiguous group of American people.

Next work out how much it costs to get one kg of mass into orbit.

All that prime American beef is going to stay right here on Earth and it'll be jockeys that colonise the solar system and turn into space puddings in the process.

Please listen to space (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512413)

It is telling you : "I am empty and deadly. Please enjoy your planet responsibly."

Experiment probably worse than the real thing (5, Insightful)

erice (13380) | about a year ago | (#42512419)

A year and half in simulated mars mission where you know it is a simulation has to be worse. In a real Mars mission, the crew will be know their activities are important: for the excitement to be first on mars, for the knowledge that a serious screw up could them their lives. On a simulated mission, you're just guinea pigs. Staying motivated must very difficult.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (4, Interesting)

blackraven14250 (902843) | about a year ago | (#42512667)

Well, that's the psychology aspect, but the biological angle might not be as kind.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42513223)

You could mitigate the biological angle pretty easily (albeit at the cost of research/production/development time/money) but the psychological angle is pretty constant until we make some major breakthroughs in space flight. You're in a spacecraft for X amount of time and Y amount of that is spent on fitness. You can increase/decrease Y with more/better fitness devices, but you can't really decrease X without inventing warp speed or faster than light travel or teleportation.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (2)

Immerman (2627577) | about a year ago | (#42513931)

And we know the solution to the biological problem - high-intensity natural spectrum artificial light to compensate for the loss of natural light. Or you know, if you want to be energy-efficient just don't cut off all the natural light. Any ship would after all be in full sunlight the entire time, a sunning lounge with mostly UV-blocking windows (don't want to eliminate it entirely, that stuff is important to human biology) would likely solve most of the problems. Mars is only 50% further away, so even at the end of your journey you'd be getting ~44% of full intensity sunlight, which is a heck of a lot more than your lamps are likely putting out.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42515033)

Doing that would give you, like, 10 different cancers.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (1)

donaldm (919619) | about a year ago | (#42515623)

The problems encountered with spacefiight to even a close planet such as Mars are considerable. The first is solar radiation which is considerable and can lead to cell destruction with out the proper protection (sun screen won't cut it). The second is the length of time it takes to get to Mars from our planet. Thirdly you have to contend with weightlessness or micro gravity for the trip and then when you get to Mars you you only have one sixth gravity which is definitely not good for the human physiology over a long term. Fourthly you have to bring along your own oxygen since there is little if any on the planet.

Actually none of the issues are insurmountable however given current spaceflight technology it is going to be very hazardous for anyone traveling to Mars. Faster propulsion systems and radiation shields would cut down the risk considerably.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year ago | (#42515677)

the spaceship could funnel in real light.

but these earthbound "missions" are done pretty much as "psychology experiment" experiments. call it pseudo science if you will, but they're done largely to just kill time.

we got better data already... from actual space stations and actual research doing stations on isolated spots on earth. not to mention that people have been going on very risky very long voyages before.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (1)

plover (150551) | about a year ago | (#42512707)

On a real mission, the trip out is likely to be pretty much demotivational as well. "Here I am, stack of college degrees and qualifications longer than your arm, and what am I doing? Watering hydroponic plants. Oh, god, I'm so depressed."

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512919)

On a real mission, the trip out is likely to be pretty much demotivational as well. "Here I am, stack of college degrees and qualifications longer than your arm, and what am I doing? Watering hydroponic plants. Oh, god, I'm so depressed."

Be happy Marvin is not on the mission.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512937)

On a real mission, the trip out is likely to be pretty much demotivational as well. "Here I am, stack of college degrees and qualifications longer than your arm, and what am I doing? Watering hydroponic plants. Oh, god, I'm so depressed."

We'll have to be sure to brighten up the living quarters with plenty of demotivational posters, then.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42513753)

Yeah, but you're a delivery boy in space.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (1)

cffrost (885375) | about a year ago | (#42515943)

On a real mission, the trip out is likely to be pretty much demotivational as well. "Here I am, stack of college degrees and qualifications longer than your arm, and what am I doing? Watering hydroponic plants. Oh, god, I'm so depressed."

Well, instead of sending a few smart, expensive people, we see how many TSA "agents" can be stuffed into the spaceship? Maybe some of them will even figure out how to survive. ;o)

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (1)

Spy Handler (822350) | about a year ago | (#42512753)

+This. The crew on the REAL trip would be a lot more motivated than this "simulation" bunch.

Plus the real crew would consist of men with balls of steel, ones who truly have the right stuff. Can you imagine Neil Armstrong or John Glenn lounging like a couch potato?

For a moment I wondered if you were joking... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42513011)

Sadly enough, I think you're being serious.

This experiment was precisely to test if trained astronauts, in peak physical and mental health, could maintain that over a long period of isolation and lack of earth-like conditions. Unsurprisingly, the answer was "No" for reasons that anyone (at least, anyone living up here in the north, where sun doesn't stay up for more than a couple of hours a day for several months each winter) could have predicted:

Actigraphy revealed that crew sedentariness increased across the mission as evident in decreased waking movement (i.e., hypokinesis) and increased sleep and rest times. Light exposure decreased during the mission. The majority of crewmembers also experienced one or more disturbances of sleep quality, vigilance deficits, or altered sleep–wake periodicity and timing, suggesting inadequate circadian entrainment

To suggest that "The fact that such environment seriously fscks up your physical and mental health is just because they were sloths to begin with. REAL men wouldn't go through such." is just absurd.

Re:For a moment I wondered if you were joking... (3, Interesting)

TheLink (130905) | about a year ago | (#42515393)

Meh, they should just hire nuclear submariners instead of pilots. They manage OK.

Nowadays much of what NASA does seems to be a big waste of time and money.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42513197)

Go read up sometime on current astronaut selection criteria.

There's a lot less "balls of steel," than there is "plays well with others," and "pays great attention to detail even when tired, bored, or otherwise distracted."

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (1)

x1n933k (966581) | about a year ago | (#42513083)

On a simulated mission, you're just guinea pigs. Staying motivated must very difficult.

I certainly agree to some extent. If you check out the links this goes beyond simple will-power and excitement. It is more biological. This isn't the first time this has been talked about either and even Sci-fi writers though about this issue for long trips in our era (Earth room in Danny Boyles 'Sunshine' comes to mind).

Mood lighting in over-seas flights help with sleeping on modern aircraft too, regardless of the excitement of passengers arriving in a time-zone much different from the one they left in. This is just a silly example that seems to fit with their findings. Yes, long-haul flights are 7 to 20 hours long but it is the closest most of us come to that kind of scenario.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (4, Insightful)

DerekLyons (302214) | about a year ago | (#42513161)

A year and half in simulated mars mission where you know it is a simulation has to be worse.

Since you seem to have have no actual experience in significant simulators, you couldn't possibly understand how wrong you are. You're on the line in the simulator too, and you damn well know it. You honestly think the guys in the simulator aren't motivated to do the best job possible?
 

In a real Mars mission, the crew will be know their activities are important: for the excitement to be first on mars, for the knowledge that a serious screw up could them their lives.

You can't sustain that kind of excitement/attention for months at a time, it's mentally extremely exhausting. And, having been there done that, the knowledge that a serious screwup could cost you your life eventually fades into the background noise. Back when I was making SSBN patrols, we saw the same things they saw in the study... guys tended to sleep more, lag more, and get lazier and sloppier as the patrol wore on. It took real effort to counteract it. Unlike these guys, we had experience and a culture (pride in your crew and boat and in wearing the fish) that made counteracting it something of a priority - but it was still hard to be as on top of things on day sixty five of a patrol as you were on day one.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (2, Insightful)

celtic_hackr (579828) | about a year ago | (#42513689)

Stupid studies. Why not look at history? A trip to Mars is about five months (150 days) with current technology, although, most of our trips these days are in the nine month category (260 days, less fuel). The American Colonists spent up to 3 months sailing across the Atlantic. A trip from England to it's colony China, back in the day was a very dangerous and lengthy journey, well over nine months in length. A circumnavigation of the planet took three years to do. US subs, regularly stay submerged for 9 months at a time. No sunlight. When's the last time you've heard of a nuclear sub being lost because the crew got lazy? Right. Never.

Idiots and their surveys. Whatever editor allowed this post needs to have his/her Geek and Nerd credentials yanked.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (4, Insightful)

DerekLyons (302214) | about a year ago | (#42514371)

US subs, regularly stay submerged for 9 months at a time. No sunlight. When's the last time you've heard of a nuclear sub being lost because the crew got lazy?

  USS San Francisco [wikipedia.org] - 08 Jan 2005. OK, so they didn't lose the ship but they came awfully damn close. Why? In part, I believe, because they'd been gone a long time and were headed for a liberty port. And in the years I spent at sea, it was always the end of patrol when I got nervous... because things could tend to get sloppy and guys tended to get lazy towards the end of a run. And that went times ten when we went non-alert and started making turns for King's Bay and turnover.
 

Stupid studies. Why not look at history?

We aren't the same people we were a century or more ago - society has changed, people's expectations have changed, etc... etc...
 

Idiots and their surveys. Whatever editor allowed this post needs to have his/her Geek and Nerd credentials yanked.

The idiot here isn't the editor - it's looking back in your mirror.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42515119)

So true. Men just love a challenge!

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | about a year ago | (#42515293)

Also for a real crew the excitement will wear off soon, after which boredom starts taking over. On the trip there is probably nothing to do on the ship, as the ship will fly itself (computer controlled with navigational commands sent from Earth). And when people have nothing to do they will stop paying attention, get lazy, sleep more, etc. The lack of sunlight is probably just a minor issue as that can be solved by having brighter artificial lighting.

Re:Experiment probably worse than the real thing (1)

SigmundFloyd (994648) | about a year ago | (#42516279)

A year and half in simulated mars mission where you know it is a simulation has to be worse. In a real Mars mission, the crew will be know their activities are important: for the excitement to be first on mars, for the knowledge that a serious screw up could them their lives. On a simulated mission, you're just guinea pigs. Staying motivated must very difficult.

Yeah, let's not give those NASA slobs the benefit of doubt. Clueless as they are, they surely haven't found a way to motivate the simulation crew. They could have told the crew "the results of this simulation will make or break the Mars mission", for example, but - as a Slashdot commenter - I'm sure they haven't thought this stuff out very well.

Heart of Gold (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512435)

This is why the Heart Of Gold is shaped like a running shoe - does all the running FOR you. Outsource everything...

Re:Heart of Gold (1)

istartedi (132515) | about a year ago | (#42512787)

OK, so moderators not only fail to distinguish between Troll and "I disagree with your PoV", they are also out of touch with Geek culture [wikipedia.org]

I'd give 42 mod points if I had them.

Re:Heart of Gold (1)

webmistressrachel (903577) | about a year ago | (#42513469)

I'm a lazy editor. I have
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infinite mod points. But remember, I'm lazy...

--- Posted without karma bonus because it's *supposed* to be lame.

That is what full spectrum lights are for. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512455)

Full spectrum lights are already used for treating depression.

The lack of windows will not be valid - they will be used for observation of external activity (minor repairs, antenna alignments, ...

The big problem with long flights is eyesight - lack of long distance focus causes the eyeball to change shape gradually (known on submarines). Result is near sightedness.

Re:That is what full spectrum lights are for. (1)

PPH (736903) | about a year ago | (#42512689)

The big problem with long flights is eyesight - lack of long distance focus causes the eyeball to change shape gradually

Fix that with special glasses.

Re:That is what full spectrum lights are for. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512803)

Or changing images of naked people out on external booms.

Re:That is what full spectrum lights are for. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512911)

Too much trouble to have to keep cleaning off the portholes.

Re:That is what full spectrum lights are for. (1)

Immerman (2627577) | about a year ago | (#42513955)

Exactly. What sort of half-assed research project is this? Didn't they even bother to skim existing literature for known problems with things they're depriving their subjects of?

This is how you prevent laziness: (5, Funny)

RoverDaddy (869116) | about a year ago | (#42512511)

The Russians knew how to fix this back in 1997: http://www.theonion.com/articles/mir-scientists-study-effects-of-weightlessness-on,1211/ [theonion.com]

Re:This is how you prevent laziness: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42514721)

How many folks would pay for real (educational) videos of sex in micro-gravity? NASA gets funding, we get space porn, no one's bored.

oh i dont think you want to do that (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42515691)

man gets off then other man comes into roomand gets face slapped with goo
OHHHH the floating horror
hahahahaha

no comment on solutions but i aint using devices the same way they use toilets

Curiosity (1)

drankr (2796221) | about a year ago | (#42512563)

Are these the astronauts with Alzheimer's? From the other day?

Nothing to do in the middle of trip? (1)

billyswong (1858858) | about a year ago | (#42512597)

Give them meaningful works that could only be done on space. Else boredom kills.

Re:Nothing to do in the middle of trip? (2)

Tablizer (95088) | about a year ago | (#42515687)

Give them meaningful works that could only be done on space.

For example, give them a big challenge, like trying to shut down a wayward computer that talks like a sedate Mitt Romney that locks them outside without space helmets.

Couch Potato.. check. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512777)

Americans are clearly the most experienced, well-trained, and qualified.

Couch Potato.. check.

Film at eleven (1)

king neckbeard (1801738) | about a year ago | (#42512811)

So, being confined to a small place with no need for physical fitness results in less physical activity? That's quite shocking.

My body is ready (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42512913)

I have been training for this mission my entire life.

Whoa (1)

TankSpanker04 (1266400) | about a year ago | (#42513075)

Imagine life on a spaceship... You and your five crewmates work, exercise, and eat together every day under the glow of fluorescent lights. As the months pass, the sun gets dimmer...

Did anyone else picture the crew from the original Matrix movie?

We have done long duration missions before. (5, Interesting)

tjstork (137384) | about a year ago | (#42513153)

People keep researching Mars missions, being two years in space, like this would be a singular even in human history because of the isolation. The fact is, humans have been doing long duration missions for quite some time. Old Nantucket whalers could be at sea for a year or two. US Navy personel on deployed aircraft carriers and submarines are at sea isolated for six months at a time, sometimes more. Old explorers on Cook's ships, Magellan's ships, were at sea for years. This has been done. We know how to do this. You have a tight captain, brutal discipline, keep people busy, and the mission continues. If there is a problem, it may only be that the crew of a presently manned Mars mission might be too small for that, but maybe we need to rethink what that crew would be?

Similarly, for all the talk of why mars, or why colonize space, no one has ever, even the left trying to be diabolical, or the right being religious nutty, ever mentioned the concept of the right to form religious colonies. Like, the pilgrims came to America to form their own fruitcake colony so they could live exactly as they wanted to under god. This gulf between science and religion, at least in the case of colonizing space, need not be so vast. Let's have a government that invests and encourages investment in space, so that, if people do want to have a tax free haven on the moon, or on mars, they can. If they want to have a pledge allegiance to the flag of mars and they think mars was made 6000 years ago, let them. Or, if people want to have a libertine sex colony on the moon, let them. The whole point of expanding into space isn't about commerce, its about, breaking away from a crowded earth that demands rules so we can all get along, in exchange for the promise of a loosely populated place where you can live, like the way you want to.

Re:We have done long duration missions before. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42515231)

So we spend billions, neigh trillions, so that people can go fuck children in space?

Nice.

Re:We have done long duration missions before. (1)

Mantrid42 (972953) | about a year ago | (#42516449)

Yes, brothers! Our faith will carry us into the stars! For the God Emperor of Mankind! FOR THE IMPERIUM!!

Vitamin D deficiency leading to depression? (4, Interesting)

Paul Fernhout (109597) | about a year ago | (#42513305)

Example: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/research-reveals-link-between-low-vitamin-d-and-military-suicide/ [vitamindcouncil.org]
"Research published this past week is the first to report that low vitamin D levels are associated with an increased risk for suicide in US military personnel."

Seasonal Affective Disorder is well known to be correlated with low sunlight levels:
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health-conditions/mental-health-and-learning-disorders/depression/ [vitamindcouncil.org]

So, I can believe blue morning and red evening would help as mentioned in the article, but I would expect that the participants are getting vitamin d deficient too, because the RDAs are generally several times too low (at least in the USA, not sure about Russia). See also: http://www.grassrootshealth.net/recommendation [grassrootshealth.net]

Simple Solutions (1)

Dereck1701 (1922824) | about a year ago | (#42513393)

Aren't there some fairly simple solutions to this "issue"? Provide the spacecraft with more "natural" lighting and give the astronauts earth based work schedule (9-5 job). The article makes these suggestions as well but only in a few sentences in one paragraph out of 10. Astronauts should be deeply involved in adjusting/finalizing the missions survey areas, they can continue training and familiarizing themselves with their equipment and soon to be home. They should have plenty to do on their trip, not laying about waiting for the landing.

But this assumes (4, Interesting)

kilodelta (843627) | about a year ago | (#42513479)

That it will take 18 months to get to Mars. I know they're using the rocket model for this but I have to explain:

Rockets expend a vast amount of their energy just getting free of Earth gravity and then use the acceleration to head toward any object but not under power. So they expend the fuel just within the band of the origin.

But there's a little technology that is currently propelling a couple of satellites called ion propulsion. It's not a massive dump of energy but a slow, steady one while acceleration increases. Calculation show a trip to Mars would take about 39 days with ion drive. Granted, the spacecraft would be best built in LEO or above that way no aerodynamic issues have to be taken into account. Essentially you'd have something that looks like the lunar lander used in the Apollo program. Not sleek and graceful but sort of cute ugly.

Re:But this assumes (2)

spectral7 (2030164) | about a year ago | (#42514983)

39 days to Mars with ion propulsion? Show me your "calculation." DAWN took 9 months, I want to see how you got a 690% improvement without using a megawatt of power or technology less than TRL 7, and how much delta-v you expect the launch vehicle to contribute.

Re:But this assumes (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42515823)

39 days to Mars with ion propulsion? Show me your "calculation."

They're talking about VASIMR [newscientist.com]

To travel to Mars in 39 days, however, the engine would need 1000 times more power than solar energy could provide. For that, VASIMR would need an onboard nuclear reactor...."That would be quite a ways down the line," Squire says.

This just in.... (1)

sunking2 (521698) | about a year ago | (#42513511)

Astronaughts are not your average joe! At least they weren't initially before we decided to start sending up teachers and the like. Last I knew they don't just take random people, but actually have criteria that must be met first.

Re:This just in.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42513917)

"Astronaughts"??? Really?

Re:This just in.... (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about a year ago | (#42515713)

You never watched porn with "Astronaughty" in the title? Maybe lots of porn is the solution for the trip. They'll have Carpel Tunnel by the time they get to Mars, but so what? Get a rover to do the rock work.

Re:This just in.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42516021)

"Astronaughts"??? Really?

Yes, really.

option for deal with the problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42514123)

So, this may be help-full?

http://www.rockethub.com/projects/9684-codename-space-pong

Hal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42514821)

This isn't new news... Amundsen talks about the effect in his report on his south pole expedition, and how it was important to have new things to do every day, even when they were over-wintering waiting to start for the polar push, or on the ship on the way down. Sure, the crew probably bitched about cleaning the dog kennels on the ship, or going out in dead of Antarctic winter to estimate the temperature by feel, just in case the thermometers all broke..

But, you can't beat a report that essentially boils down to: We had a plan to do something really hard that nobody had ever done, we executed the plan, there wasn't much excitement, we got to the pole on schedule, and for the sake of redundancy, actually surveyed 5 possible pole locations. Thanks for sending us.

Asstronaut (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42514831)

That is all.

It's all relative (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42515541)

Astronauts tend to be the ultimate in task oriented workaholics that love what they do.

An astronaut's version of Lazy would be my version of overwork.

Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about a year ago | (#42515745)

"Fuck it, dude, let's just stop at the moon and put red cellophane over the camera lenses."

Have they never heard of daylight lamps? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42515797)

Stop saying "fluourescent tubes" as if it was a bad thing! You only picked a shitty color! All colors the sun ever has to our eyes are available as fluorescent tubes!

With multiple tubes or a simple movable filter, you can easily simulate all colors the sun has throughout the day. Including the UV/IR components.

Add a diffusion filter in front of it, and it looks like actual sky.

Come on, this has been solved decades ago! I can build you such a system for less than $100 (probably even less than $50) a piece!

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