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OpenStreetMap Hits One Million Registered Users

Unknown Lamer posted about 2 years ago | from the better-living-through-collaboration dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "OSM passed the one million registered users mark! Sure, similar to Wikipedia, the number of active contributors is a factor of 5 lower (something like ~200k) but the growth of data is impressive. So why not have a look at your neighborhood and assist on mapping? Nothing big, just visit OSM bugs and add for example your favorite place and a house number."

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LOL (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42548717)

I added the gay bathhouse where Steve Jobs got his AIDS.

I have a bug to report... (3, Informative)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 2 years ago | (#42548769)

... the link to "OSMBugs" in the summary doesn't work.

Re:I have a bug to report... (3, Informative)

MyFirstNameIsPaul (1552283) | about 2 years ago | (#42548833)

I have been able to correct the issue locally by going to osmbugs.org [osmbugs.org] .

Re:I have a bug to report... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42548911)

But, that was my favorate part of this story!

Re:I have a bug to report... (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 2 years ago | (#42552621)

I also notice there are no links to OpenStreetMap in the summary, or a description of what it actually is. (hint, it's .org not .com)

998,950 bots. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42548855)

Everything is just boasting and fake numbers these days. Everything is fake.

Re:998,950 bots. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42549001)

By your command.

Wikimapia (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42548909)

I prefer wikimapia [wikimapia.org]

Re:Wikimapia (5, Informative)

yellowbkpk (890493) | about 2 years ago | (#42549773)

Wikimapia does not distribute their data with an open license. Even if they did, every single drop of their data was derived from Google Maps satellite and map data, breaking the Google terms of use. I imagine if you tried to do anything serious with Wikimapia data you would get slapped by Google.

Re:Wikimapia (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42549907)

Sure, if you like giving your data to a couple of Russians who don't care about copyright infringement. They actively encourage tracing from google imagery and maps. Wile Google hasn't taken action against them as of now, they definitely could because this is a clear violation of the Google maps terms of service. Also, can you actually get a dump of all wikimapia data like the OSM weekly planet file? I think they were considering such a thing but last time I looked, this was not an option which greatly limits the usefulness of the data.

Must resist temptation to add houses... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42548947)

As places like "Great place to get nice weed" or "Has sluts inside" .

It's a sore one.

Re:Must resist temptation to add houses... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42552741)

As places like "Great place to get nice weed" or "Has sluts inside" .

It's a sore one.

amenity=brothel actually exists. Both kinds of places are legal in some countries, so yes - they can be put on the map too.

Better Than Before (2)

ronark (803478) | about 2 years ago | (#42549011)

Haven't been there in a while. The accuracy in my area (NEPA) was terrible. I had made some improvements, but became discouraged when someone reverted them to mimic what was on Google Maps. Google Maps in horrific in the NEPA area, so I was upset that my work was destroyed by someone who would just blatantly copy. After visiting today, it was nice to see that the NEPA area has been significantly improved. It is much more up to date than my Garmin at this point. It would be nice to get OSM on the thing if the accuracy is improving the way that it has for me. An encouraging project, I just hope that it doesn't get killed by the complaints that routinely get leveraged against Wikipedia.

Re:Better Than Before (2)

dargaud (518470) | about 2 years ago | (#42549133)

How do you know when something gets reverted ? Do you get an email or do you have to go back and check ?

I've known OSM since its very beginning and my first thought was 'right, this project SO needs critical mass that it'll never happen'. Then, since I do a lot of mountain biking and one of my favorite website [vttrack.fr] shows all the existing GPS tracks of various websites related to mountain biking on various map background (Google, IGN, OSM, etc), I started to notice that for some areas OSM was actually more accurate than the others. So, since I had a stash of GPS tracks on my own, I started contributing, particularly in areas that were deficient.

If you do a small area you know well, you can improve OSM very quickly. That's a great project which deserves to be more known from the larger public.

Re:Better Than Before (1)

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) | about 2 years ago | (#42549403)

I got on board with OSM early on and they don't notify you if someone has changed something you added or had previously changed but for large modifications which some people do for some reason they are easy to spot if you focus on "your" area. I notice this when someone decides that the sidewalks and walking paths in parks are actually bike paths even though there are designated bike paths that are also marked. Good on you for contributing. I contribute a lot as I like to use it as a source against which I check one of my side projects against and would like the project to succeed.

Re:Better Than Before (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42549599)

How do you know when something gets reverted ? Do you get an email or do you have to go back and check ?

Some new very nifty code is being worked on right now to improve the "history" page. Right now it is kind of noisy with global changesets. You can see the beta here: http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ [openstreetmap.org] . Somewhere there is also an option to subscribe to an RSS link from that service for a given bounding box. I imagine that will become more prominent once this gets into production.

Re:Better Than Before (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42550061)

Very little stuff gets reverted. No one audits your works and passes it as worthy or not. Only vandalism gets routinely reverted. Go ahead and try - you'll find everything you add will appear a few minutes later. There are mailing lists and IRC channels to ask for help.

Re:Better Than Before (1)

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) | about 2 years ago | (#42549157)

I don't think it will get killed by Wikipedia style complaints as maps seem to be less politically charged, unless you are in India/Pakistan or Japan/China/Korea/Taiwan. You still do get people defacing parts of the map, and there is a fair amount of blatant stupidity but the stupidity factor goes down once a contributor understands what they are doing. I know I made plenty of mistakes early on.

There *is* a way to get the map on your Garmin (1)

Herve5 (879674) | about 2 years ago | (#42556353)

http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ [openstreetmap.nl]
has been working for years I think. I did use it in Canada (coming from Europe, I only had euro mapping).
My main issue is rather the Garmin software itself, and I'm patiently waiting for more developed open source turn-by-turn softwares. (what exists on tablets is already striking, including non-monopoly ones like Blackberry -I have great hopes for the coming linux ones)

My area is already filled out (4, Interesting)

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) | about 2 years ago | (#42549039)

I would add stuff to my neighborhood but at this point I would almost have to start mapping out individual trees. Well it isn't quite that bad but I do go on OSM binges every now and then and have a lot of the buildings (some with full attributes include), roads, power lines, walking paths, other structures, ponds, parks (including equipment, sports field, toilets, and drinking they contain), parking lots, parking isles, etc mapped out already for my town. Areas that I hunt I have public land outlined as well as correcting the roads and adding in the official or unofficial trails that exist. I find it is a better use of my OCDness than acquiring cats or other things.

Re:My area is already filled out (1)

SteveDorries (1313401) | about 2 years ago | (#42549845)

I do it in spurts too, I mapped out Walt Disney World when I first started since the family and I go often. A lot of the contributors from the USA seem to do it that way, I think it's because the TIGER data-set covers so much of the roads.

Re:My area is already filled out (2)

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) | about 2 years ago | (#42550651)

The TIGER data-set is good for federal roads and even some state level roads but gets a bit dogy at the local level since reality very often doesn't line up with the TIGER data. Buildings and other stuff is basically all user added and when I go on a OSM binge I add lots of other stuff like buildings, fences, bike or foot paths, and just about any thing I can find to map or trace.

Re:My area is already filled out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42551205)

Try http://maproulette.org/ if you get bored - shows you a random bug on the map, fix it and feel better.

Re:My area is already filled out (1)

Herve5 (879674) | about 2 years ago | (#42556409)

There are a couple of sites that'll allow you to select a zone, locate every kind of potential improvement in the area (like, two roads that come adjacent to less than 1m, are they in fact connected) and then correct them, but being behind a very severe firewall at the moment I can't even find them for now :(
Hopefully will come back later...

Re:My area is already filled out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42551929)

It's got to the point where I'm filled with nerdish delight when I find something I can add. And holidays? Sheer geotagging OCD joy. :)

Favorate? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42549209)

Can somebody please get Unknown Lamer a spell-check?

OSM allows to hide your contributions behind DRM (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42549389)

As of 2010 they changed license to be corporation-friendly (hence Apple started using them). The down side is that they now allow corporations to hide your work behind DRM, and they had to purge contributions from users who disagreed with this.

Re:OSM allows to hide your contributions behind DR (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42549713)

The license didn't actually change until September 2012. That is well after Apple started using OSM in iPhoto maps. Your argument is invalid. The license is essentially a version of Creative Commons that is targeted at databases instead of creative works. It is called the Open Database License [opendatacommons.org]

Re:OSM allows to hide your contributions behind DR (1)

yellowbkpk (890493) | about 2 years ago | (#42549733)

This is incorrect. OpenStreetMap changed licenses midway through 2012 from CC BY-SA to Open Database License [opendatacommons.org] . Apple has not confirmed that they're using OSM data, but if they are they would most likely be using OSM data that was obtained before the license change and is thus CC BY-SA. As far as I understand it both licenses allow data to be distributed "behind DRM".

Re:OSM allows to hide your contributions behind DR (1)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | about 2 years ago | (#42553175)

Apple has not confirmed that they're using OSM data, but if they are they would most likely be using OSM data that was obtained before the license change and is thus CC BY-SA.

Actually, Apple and they finally got around to crediting them (like they're supposed to do with CC-BY-SA or ODL). [osmfoundation.org]

Re:OSM allows to hide your contributions behind DR (1)

emj (15659) | about 2 years ago | (#42556401)

DRM is a no no with CC-by-SA, it says it like this: "You may not impose any effective technological measures on the Work that restrict [the access to the work]" ( the CC-by-SA legal code part 4a [creativecommons.org] )

But the license that OSM has adopted, the ODbL will allow you to do what you want with the created map, as long as you give attribution on it (and share the mapdata).

Re:OSM allows to hide your contributions behind DR (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | about 2 years ago | (#42549785)

So long as my work is available from OSM itself, it's not hidden by their license. Someone else "using DRM" doesn't automatically make your contributions vanish from the face of the earth, they are still available from the same source as they always were.

Re:OSM allows to hide your contributions behind DR (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42549825)

*sigh*. Where do you get your info? Certainly not from a reliable source. It is so easy to spread FUD, so hard to refute it, even though it is utter rubbish and the harm is done in an instant. Why not tell the truth? Maybe it just doesn't make you heart beat fast enough. Maybe you should get out more - you could always survey your local area for OSM while you are out and benefit *everyone* who uses it. Of course you could just carry on viciously spreading utter rubbish with no basis in truth and then run back to your corner sniggering like a little troll.

Devil in the Details (0)

mwfischer (1919758) | about 2 years ago | (#42549405)

The problem is in details. I can mark power lines but I can't mark dentist / doctors office.
Also can't fix typos for street names without having to redraw the street.

Cute but I'll pass.

Re:Devil in the Details (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42549677)

Err what? For road name you click on the existing street in the editor and change the "name" field. Hit the "Save" button, wait 2 minutes and refresh the map. You are correct that dentist/doctor isn't in the presets (although veterinarian is...) but that doesn't mean you can't map it. See the OSM wiki [openstreetmap.org] for more "tags" that you can use to label things.

Re:Devil in the Details (3, Informative)

yellowbkpk (890493) | about 2 years ago | (#42549687)

What gives you the impression you can't mark dentist/doctors offices or fix street names? For example, click on the street whose name you want to fix. On the left column you should see a list of attributes for that street. You can change it there and click Save. Done!

Re:Devil in the Details (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42549689)

Neither point stands up. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddentist for a dentist and just change the name tag to change the name. You can tag anything, we have free-format tagging for a reason, though if you want it to be understood and used by others you need to use the documented tags. Pass and you'll be stuck with the rest that is getting steadily left behind.

Re:Devil in the Details (1)

mwfischer (1919758) | about 2 years ago | (#42549985)

It's a proposed feature that isn't implemented and requires crawling through documentation.

I'll pass. Bad UI, lazy user.

Re:Devil in the Details (1)

emj (15659) | about 2 years ago | (#42556277)

It's not a proposed feature, it has been used over 14 thousand times in OSM..

But you got bad UI and Lazy user correct, and that's enough reason if you have no interest in maps, and your local area.

fuc4er (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42549887)

Problems wwith lizard - In other

good for some purposes, needs driving directions (1)

bcrowell (177657) | about 2 years ago | (#42550403)

I like OSM and have spent a bunch of time adding edits to it. It's great for things like hiking trails and urban running trails, which usually aren't in google maps. There are some very nice web-based interfaces for making contour maps (example from closedcontour.com [closedcontour.com] ). What's really missing is decent driving directions. Yournavigation.org sucks.

Re:good for some purposes, needs driving direction (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42550535)

Try http://map.project-osrm.org/

Re:good for some purposes, needs driving direction (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42550631)

As mentioned, http://map.project-osrm.org/ [project-osrm.org] is one of the best routers that uses OSM data. There is also http://open.mapquest.com [mapquest.com] which might even integrate with the MQ mobile app so you can find a route in a browser, then send it to the MQ app to take in the car. There is also routing on http://maps.cloudmade.com/ [cloudmade.com] although sometimes it seems like they are a little out of date.

But there is code being worked on to integrate OSRM into the osm.org website itself.

Re:good for some purposes, needs driving direction (1)

bcrowell (177657) | about 2 years ago | (#42558465)

Thanks for the suggestion, but I tried OSRM, and it seemed just as bad as yournavigation.org, if not worse. (I wanted to do a side-by-side comparison, but yournavigation apparently isn't working right now due to hosting problems.) As with yournavigation, OSRM breaks the route down into a large number of microscopic parts. Also, when I asked it for directions to 4926 W. Rosecrans Avenue, Hawthorne, CA, it inexplicably changed my request to a request for directions to South Tajauta Avenue, Los Angeles, CA, which is a completely different place. The blue route is also invisible overlaid on top of blue freeways.

Re:good for some purposes, needs driving direction (1)

DennisOSRM (2812927) | about 2 years ago | (#42562959)

Why don't you go ahead and file a bug report. OSRM is under active development.

Re:good for some purposes, needs driving direction (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42554453)

Try Osmand. Its $4 for Android and navigation works. It is also GPL

Re:good for some purposes, needs driving direction (1)

emj (15659) | about 2 years ago | (#42556279)

Try Osmand. Its $4 for Android and navigation works. It is also GPL

It's also free [google.com] , but sure it's better to support the devs [google.com] by paying

MapRoulette (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42551177)

Other than looking at OpenStreetBugs, MapRoulette (http://maproulette.org/) is a great way to help out by fixing small data bugs one by one. I hear it's pretty addictive.

OSM bugs isn't as useful as actual nodes (2)

anarcat (306985) | about 2 years ago | (#42551987)

Contributing to OSM is not hard. It's like a wiki, you register and you can edit everything. Even if your neighborhood is mapped, you can still work on adding amenities like restaurants, parking spots, post boxes and all the stuff a person that doesn't know the neighborhood would find useful. I personally keep business cards of the good restaurants i visit and post them on OSM regularly.

If you use flash, there's a web-builtin editor called Potlach that's really good. If not, you use jOSM that's shipped with all major distributions and which is also very good (my favorite, even if Java</troll>).

Re:OSM bugs isn't as useful as actual nodes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42667811)

Feh. Costs money to register, even if you only want to edit data / fix bugs (e.g. maproulette).

Thanks Apple Maps (1)

a0me (1422855) | about 2 years ago | (#42555217)

Since Apple Maps uses OpenStreetMap, I'm not really surprised of the jump in user numbers.

Re:Thanks Apple Maps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42555949)

While Apple did use old OSM data (from around April 2010) for the low-res background for iPhoto, I'd love to see a clear example where "here's something in Apple Maps" and "here's something in OpenStreetMap", and there both obviously the same yet subtly different from what's on the ground.

So far I don't think anyone's been able to pin anything down. There have been lots of suggestions made but they can mostly be explained by the fact that if Map A maps a place and so does Map B, they're expected to be similar because they're the same place!

Re:Thanks Apple Maps (1)

j-beda (85386) | about 2 years ago | (#42560285)

While Apple did use old OSM data (from around April 2010) for the low-res background for iPhoto, I'd love to see a clear example where "here's something in Apple Maps" and "here's something in OpenStreetMap", and there both obviously the same yet subtly different from what's on the ground.

So far I don't think anyone's been able to pin anything down. There have been lots of suggestions made but they can mostly be explained by the fact that if Map A maps a place and so does Map B, they're expected to be similar because they're the same place!

It looks like Apple does give a credit in iPhoto: http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/03/08/welcome-apple/ [osmfoundation.org]

Re:Thanks Apple Maps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42564113)

Indeed - and they do apparently give credit in Apple Maps too. What they don't say is where they're using OSM data (and if so, what data - roads? POIs?).

How to improve OSM street numbers systematically? (1)

tr0tt3r (544366) | about 2 years ago | (#42556029)

I have a project to geocode (i.e. use an API to give an address, get back latitude and longitude) many many addresses. Sometime, OSM works just fine, and provides just the right answer. It appears that 2/3 of the time this is true. 1/3 of the time, while OSM street data is aware enough to understand street names, it has no way of understanding the numbers. All of the sophisticated OSM guis have a mechanism to add this information. But this is very very complex to use. You have to be able to understand the "address range math" that OSM supports. While the math is very smart, the interface to it is very confusing. The current GUI too does a wonderful job of making tracing and "theres a thing of type X here" very simple, but the ability to add addressing is pretty deep, hidden and confusing. I would like to be able to contribute in some kind of crowd sourced fashion, where I tell my users "hey you might know where this single address is... help me out and enter it into this website!!" With enough individual address samples, the OSM algorithms (I assume) can figure out an entire area.. but I see no such interface. The website is inscrutable to outsiders... Would some OSM person please reply with a "you should try X?" Thanks, -FT

Re:How to improve OSM street numbers systematicall (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42556209)

I'd ask that question here:

https://help.openstreetmap.org/ [openstreetmap.org]

(and yes, the OSM wiki has been described as worse than inscrutable by insiders too - but I wouldn't include that bit in the help question!)

Maybe some sort of wheelmap-like solution would work?

http://blog.wheelmap.org/en/ [wheelmap.org]

Volunteering (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42556509)

To destroy your own anonymity and privacy. Good work fellas.
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