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How Much Beef Is In Your Burger?

samzenpus posted about a year and a half ago | from the where's-the-beef dept.

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dgharmon writes in with an interesting article about how much (or how little) beef is in a UK burger. "The presence of horsemeat in value beefburgers has caused a furore. But what is usually in the patties? It has been a sobering week for fans of the beefburger. Tesco have used full-page adverts in national newspapers to apologize for selling burgers in the UK that were found to contain 29% horsemeat. Traces of horse DNA were also detected by the Food Standards Agency of Ireland in products sold by Iceland, Lidl, Aldi and Dunnes. But a beefburger rarely contains 100% beef."

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my meat popsicle contains 0% beef (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641555)

lol

Actually (5, Insightful)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641647)

Actually horse meat [wikipedia.org] is pretty good; I like it more than beef, and around here the price is comparable. It's tastier than beef, and also has fewer adverse consequences for your health. Horse meat becomes more tender as the animal ages - unlike cattle - and a rather larger percentage of the animal is good meat (although each horse eats more than cattle yielding similar meat mass). Of course, horses are often though of as companion animals, (disclaimer: I own and ride a horse) and it's not customary to eat any animal you gave a name to. Our horse has a name, and the kids would not tolerate any discussion of eating him...

Re:Actually (2, Interesting)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641691)

Unless you get a horse that has been in the US racing circuit and has been fed steroids, antibiotics and bog knows what for most of it's life. I'd bet that the horsemeat in the British burgers was never tested for same.

Re:Actually (4, Informative)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641785)

Unless you get a horse that has been in the US racing circuit and has been fed steroids, antibiotics and bog knows what for most of it's life. I'd bet that the horsemeat in the British burgers was never tested for same.

Inthe EU, every horse is required (by EU law) to have a record of medications given to it in its entire lifetime. In particular, the record must state whether any particular item given would render it "unfit" for human consumption. There are several such medications, but they are not commonly used; all horses I know of would be fit for consumption on that basis. Of course, inspection of the horse's carcase by a veterinarian is required before it is deemed suitable for use as meat, since eating something which had died from certain diseases might be unpleasant, whatever the animal.

Re:Actually (4, Interesting)

Teun (17872) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641835)

A rather seldom source of meat, that US racing horse :)
Most horse meat in the EU is from places like Poland and Romania where horses are still in use for (farm)work.

Personally I find it rather a repulsive waste of resources to leave a horse to die of old age and send the carcass to destruction instead of having it humanely killed by the butcher.

Re:Actually (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641723)

I would also agree mostly, but I would worry that some of them would of been given some medicine that was not meant to be given to any food animals. As long as that is taken care of, I would also prefer it over the alternatives found in generic value meat.

But I got to disagree on the names, most of the meat I eat had a name.

Re:Actually (5, Insightful)

chihowa (366380) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641751)

I think the problem is rather less about the actual horse meat and more about deception. If you're buying something labeled 'beef', it's not pleasant to find that it's up to a third 'not-beef'. With that deception also comes the suspicion of further deception. Does the product even meet health standards? Can you believe anything else that's written about the product on the label?

Then, horse meat is generally cheaper than beef. So charging beef prices for deceptively labeled horse meat is its own valid source of complaint.

Re:Actually (2)

Gonoff (88518) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641873)

I saw a news article that asked a lot of people what they thought about eating horsemeat. A lot of them were not against the idea. I am not against it either. I have hunted for food and in my past, I did army survival training and some of the things in that are not generally thought of as food.
What everyone is cross at is horsemeat in the food chain unannounced. I agree with this.

The virtues or not of horsemeat are an entirely different matter and not the problem. As a civilised country, we have rules about what is in our food. Any cow, sheep, pig etc in the food chain is supposed to be from a farm where certain things are done and other ones are not. If horsemeat is in there, have we perhaps got cow meat from farms that pump them full of growth hormones and other profitable chemicals - like people in the USA are subjected to?

Re:Actually (1)

bfandreas (603438) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641937)

I was also wondering when the news broke.
How exactly did they save money when horse meat is that expensive? Did they rob a glue factory or what?

Re:Actually (1)

ballpoint (192660) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641953)

Seconded. Riding and owning horses for over 30 years, I just don't understand where the beef is in not wanting to eat horse meat. Eating your own horses is, well, too psychologically challenging but anonymous meat from a herbivore is fine.

McDonalds! (3, Funny)

phantomfive (622387) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641559)

"Two all beef patties on a sesame seed bun!" Their commercials say it, it must be true.

Re:McDonalds! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641579)

I have doubts about that one myself. Doesn't it require other incredients to get that taste?

Re:McDonalds! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641655)

all beef != 100% beef

Re:McDonalds! (4, Funny)

Dupple (1016592) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641583)

Try the meatballs, they're the dogs bollocks

Re:McDonalds! (4, Funny)

jonnythan (79727) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641715)

The patties are 100% beef.

Re:McDonalds! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641875)

So the horse meat is in the buns?

none (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641563)

I eat wild game that I harvest myself.

Re:none (1)

Gonoff (88518) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641881)

I have done this in the past but most people live in cities.

Re:none (1)

c0lo (1497653) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641909)

I have done this in the past but most people live in cities.

Rattus norvegicus is pretty common in the city scape.

Oblig (3, Informative)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641567)

Mmm... unlisted percentages of wheat flour, water, beef fat, soya protein isolate, salt, onion powder, yeast, sugar, barley malt extract, garlic powder, white pepper extract, celery extract and onion extract...

Re:Oblig (1)

thammoud (193905) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641615)

Would never sprinkle "soya protein isolate" on my burgers anymore. Always thought I added too much

Well no (-1)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641573)

If it were 100% beef it would be a steak. Still I'd prefer the meat elements of my burger to not be anything except what they claim to be.

Re:Well no (4, Informative)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641595)

I make burgers out of 100% beef and they are not steak

Re:Well no (1)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641649)

So nothing in there but beef? How does it all stick together?

Re:Well no (2)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641703)

Sawdust. 100% Natural.

At least that what it seems they use in the US.

Re:Well no (5, Interesting)

anubi (640541) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641963)

You might be close.

When I inquired as to why a local fast food restaurant was selling "shakes", not "milkshakes", I found out that they could not sell them as "milk" shakes because there was not enough milk in them. They were selling sweetened sawdust ( aka "cellulose" ).

OK. It tastes good. Not all that good for you, just sugar and indigestibles, no nutritive content at all from what I can tell. But pleasurable to ingest. OK, at least I know what it is and make my decisions accordingly.

( incidentally, their coffee is made with some topping which is completely indigestible to me. I found out during a bout of flu. It all came out, processed, but untouched. Lots of it. I think it was sweetened and foamed Olestra.

Same with the horse meat. I will consider it no big deal if it is accurately represented on its bill of contents. It can be ground up worms for what I care. If it is biologically compatible with me and it tastes good, I'll go for it.

Personally, I am far more concerned with pesticide and other biocide remnants in my food. I am far more concerned with genetically modified stuff than things that have been in the food chain since life began. I do not know how well I or others may metabolize sheep designed to put spider silk proteins in their milk or corn designed to make its own pesticide. I guess time will tell.

Re:Well no (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641713)

Love keeps it together.

Re:Well no (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641721)

Generally speaking, a beef patty that's 100% beef has to be stuck together with fat. In other words it's unhealthy AND pretty tasteless.

Re:Well no (1)

sribe (304414) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641855)

Generally speaking, a beef patty that's 100% beef has to be stuck together with fat. In other words it's unhealthy AND pretty tasteless.

Of course. Because, you know, a beef patty that has no fat is the apex of tastiness. Oh, wait...

Re:Well no (1)

hsmith (818216) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641919)

you do realize, the best tasting steaks/burgers derive a lot of their flavor... from fat...

Re:Well no (1)

larry bagina (561269) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641745)

Beef fat.

Re:Well no (5, Informative)

Mr_Silver (213637) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641813)

So nothing in there but beef? How does it all stick together?

Here is a video of a TV show Heston Blumenthal [wikipedia.org] did in the UK, which demonstrated how you can make a burger using only chunks of sirloin and salt as the binding agent [youtu.be] .

Looks pretty good to me!

What the hell is wrong with americans? (5, Insightful)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641833)

You buy your burgers premade! I eat burgers frequently, but I make them myself. it would never occur to me to purchase them premade. Just grind the meat, take a bunch of the result, mix it up with some garlic and onions, and a few other species, then pack it gently with your hands, and that's it!

it's the grease in the meat that keep it together. You don't need anything else.

Re:What the hell is wrong with americans? (5, Funny)

lgftsa (617184) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641927)

and a few other species

Best Typo Ever!

Re:What the hell is wrong with americans? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641933)

mix it up with some garlic and onions, and a few other species

Which other species? Horse?

Re:What the hell is wrong with americans? (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641957)

WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?

If you just bought your burgers instead of wasting time making them yourself you might be able to get your Slashdot replies in a little earlier. Either that or do what the rest of us do and use work time.

Re:Well no (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641621)

Ground beef is still beef. Plus there is a difference between filler junk, and non-beef meat.

Re:Well no (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641675)

"If it were 100% beef it would be a steak."

"Steak" is the way the meat is cut, not what kind of meat it is. There is pork steak, salmon steak, etc.

Re:Well no (1)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641735)

Sorry, turning a decent steak into a burger makes no sense without additives. The way to treat a steak is to pocket it and fill it with blue stilton, not slobber it with mayo and red sauce.

Re:Well no (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641935)

Are you retarded or something?

i have purchased the affected products. (0)

queazocotal (915608) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641577)

I would purchase them again today.
Horses are not especially more intelligent than cows.

Re:i have purchased the affected products. (5, Funny)

larry bagina (561269) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641597)

Probably safer, too. Ever hear of mad horse disease?

Re:i have purchased the affected products. (3, Funny)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641661)

Plus, all of their horses are 100% horse-fed for that double-horse juiced-in goodness!

Re:i have purchased the affected products. (5, Insightful)

mattsday (909414) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641775)

It's not about the ethics of the animal in question, it's about the promises made by the manufacturer (no mention of horse) and the questions of quality control, correct process and oversight.

My concern isn't "OMG HORSIES!"

My concern is "fuck you consumer" as they pump the product full of whatever they think they can get away with to turn a profit.

Re:i have purchased the affected products. (1)

BitterOak (537666) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641781)

I would purchase them again today. Horses are not especially more intelligent than cows.

What does intelligence have to do with the taste, quality, or safety of meat? By your logic, we should all engage in cannibalism, or if that makes you squeamish, we should eat dolphins and apes.

Re:i have purchased the affected products. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641891)

I would purchase them again today.
Horses are not especially more intelligent than cows.

What does intelligence have to do with the taste, quality, or safety of meat? By your logic, we should all engage in cannibalism, or if that makes you squeamish, we should eat dolphins and apes.

Read it again, idiot.

Re:i have purchased the affected products. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641961)

no, by his logic, we should eat you

Re:i have purchased the affected products. (0)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641841)

Except they are. Also, horses are pets. We don't eat humans, and we don't eat our pets. If you are onboard with eating horses, I'm sure you are all for eating cats and dogs too?

Re:i have purchased the affected products. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641959)

We kill millions of them every single year and toss in the trash while millions of people starve.

I think this solves two problems.

Re:i have purchased the affected products. (3)

Dogtanian (588974) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641895)

I would purchase them again today. Horses are not especially more intelligent than cows.

Viewing this though the issue of horsemeat misses the bigger (and more important) question raised. Namely, that if horsemeat was able to end up where it shouldn't have, what other garbage has "accidentally" made its way into these burgers over the years?

Meat rejected for human consumption (destined for pet food and the like or for destruction) making its way back into the human food chain? Quite likely, this has already been heard of. Other animals? God knows what crap?

It's not remotely surprising that burgers costing less than 13p each (inc. VAT (*)) would contain any old rubbish. Doesn't mean it's acceptable for anyone to sell that, regardless of the price, but it shouldn't be surprising.

(*) Sales tax, for the benefit of those outside the UK

Tesco's Burgers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641601)

I bought some value burgers from Tesco's yesterday, and they're off!

Independent: the best #horsemeat Twitter gags (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641603)

@Freddie_UK: A woman has been taken to hospital after eating horsemeatburgers. Her condition is said to be stable.
@BobJWilliams: I expect this only relates to those mini-burgers you have as snacks. You know, the horse d'oeuvres.
@JohnMoynes: I get all my horsemeat from an independent dodgy butcher.
@DiamondsIRL: Are you in favour of Horsemeat in your burgers? Yay or Neigh?
@GBretman: So horsemeat has been found in TescoProducts but a spokesman says It's bollocks
@pinkyperfection: I had a tesco burger and now I'm feeling a little horse
@brucel: Those Aldi horse burgers were nice, but I prefer My Lidl Pony
@PaulLewis: Scientist: "Sir, we've discovered horse meat in your burgers." Tesco boss: "Why the long face?"
@PensionsMonkey: There was an old woman who swallowed a horse, she'd been to Tesco, of course.
@elhaydo: Good thing about these horse puns is it's stopped all the sick Jimmy Saddle jokes

The best #horsemeat Twitter gags following Tesco burger blunder [independent.co.uk]

Re:Independent: the best #horsemeat Twitter gags (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641779)

I'm so hungry I could eat a horse.

Horsemeat isn't the problem (5, Insightful)

davidwr (791652) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641605)

Deceptive trade practices is the problem.

Re:Horsemeat isn't the problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641729)

You're right. I've shouted myself hoarse about them.

Re:Horsemeat isn't the problem (1)

bickerdyke (670000) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641773)

Full ack.

Horesmeat burgers over here would perhaps be more expensive as it isn't as usual as it was 50 years ago and now something like a speciality.

Go Vegan (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641617)

And you don't have to worry about any of this BS.

Re:Go Vegan (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641641)

yes you just have to worry about malnutrition!

Re:Go Vegan (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641695)

Vegans don't have enough meat in them to make a decent burger.

Re:Go Vegan (1)

Camaro (13996) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641753)

No, vegans just have to worry about all the salmonella and e. coli that seems to be popping up in vegetables these days.

Re:Go Vegan (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641865)

Non-vegans eat vegetables too --- either that or die.

Homo sapiens is not a carnivore, and cannot survive on meat alone. It's not a choice available to you, unless you consider suicide a valid choice.

Re:Go Vegan (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641915)

And the source of samonella on vegetables? Irrigation water contaminated by livestock runoff or contaminated manure used as fertilizer.

Re:Go Vegan (4, Insightful)

hsmith (818216) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641949)

Yes, but you die from exhaustion telling everyone you are a vegan. Bad trade off.

A European problem? (3, Interesting)

Camaro (13996) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641625)

While I don't have numbers at hand, it is my understanding that there are very few horse slaughter facilities in North America. There is a certain horse culture that are very opposed to seeing any horse slaughtered, even for food.

Re:A European problem? (1)

Hentes (2461350) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641659)

More of a British problem. The horse losing the race goes into the burgers.

Re:A European problem? (1)

vlm (69642) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641699)

We have plenty of excess horses from wanna be horsey people. Turns out owning a horse is quite expensive...

Re:A European problem? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641711)

Many products bear the beef name, but contain more pork or other substitute ingredients. Eg. 3% veal and 39% pork, with the remaining part being obscure additions and water.
It's sad/strange you'd get weird looks after asking for the ingredients list at a fast-food toko..

Re:A European problem? (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641777)

Yes, but when it is unlabeled generic value meat they do not care about something they do not know.

And it is not like we turn them into glue anymore, and it cannot be economical to ship it to the UK. One way of another NA eats its old horses, it just has to be better hidden.

Re:A European problem? (1)

vux984 (928602) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641889)

pet food maybe? It doesn't have to be people eating it...

Re:A European problem? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641791)

Horse slaughter houses are currently legal in the US (they were banned for a while) but there aren't any so horses get shipped to Mexico instead. There is at least one [latimes.com] horse slaughterhouse trying to open up in the US but the USDA is foot-dragging the process.

Re:A European problem? (4, Insightful)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641807)

That's partly because it was made illegal in 2006 or 2007 (indirectly, they defunded the government inspectors of horsemeat so, no inspection, no sale). That caused a lot of horsemeat to be shipped to other countries. However, back in 2011 the horsemeat inspectors got funded again so now you can eat a horse if you are hungry enough.

FWIW, the absolute best piece of meat I've ever eaten was horse - in the italian part of switzerland, I ordered it as a lark. They served it so rare it was bloody and I could barely take the first bite. But it was amazingly tender and not gamy at all. Better than the best filet mignon. However I've been told my experience is not the norm, the stuff is usually stringy.

Re:A European problem? (1)

phantomfive (622387) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641955)

In California, it is actually illegal to eat horse. It was voted on in a proposition a few years back.

This actually explains something (2)

Groo Wanderer (180806) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641639)

So it was actually called the "Big Mr. Ed Burger" for a reason. I thought the name was the chef who invented it, not the actor that ended up in the first 91 copies. Chalk up one more mystery solved by teh intertubes.

            -Charlie

Re:This actually explains something (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641669)

Did they also sell a "Francis the Talking Burger"?

Absolutely, 100% (1)

EmagGeek (574360) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641677)

100%, grass-fed on my acreage with no hormones, steroids, or antibiotics - processed in town by a local processor for $0.60/lb + a $50 kill fee, which includes vacuum packing and freezing.

Re:Absolutely, 100% (1)

davidwr (791652) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641767)

That's a good start, but how do you keep man-made-stuff that's in the air, rain, and bird droppings, watershed-run-off, etc. from getting into the grass the cattle eat and the water they drink?

Re:Absolutely, 100% (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641947)

Are you able to walk with such a large stick up your butt?

Re:Absolutely, 100% (1)

EmagGeek (574360) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641965)

I don't. There's only so much you can do, but I live in a rural agrarian place where there are no megafarms, feedlots, or other industrial agriculture (the terrain is not forgiving enough for that in the foothills of the blue ridge mountains).

My wife is an Environmental Engineer, so she keeps tabs on our soil and water quality and we've never had any problems with contamination.

Nobody can live in a vacuum, so there is always going to be a small contribution from the rest of humanity, but it's like putting a thimble full of tequila into a swimming pool. Nobody's going to get drunk off of that.

OMG ponies in my cheezburger! (1)

porjo (964384) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641693)

Hi have no problem with the idea of eating horse meat, but I'd like to know in advance. Advertising your horse burgers as having '100% beef' is hardly fair warning.

Honesty (1)

Chuckstar (799005) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641717)

I know they put some fillers (soy protein, wheat, water, etc.) and flavoring (onion, celery, etc.) in my hamburger meat. I'm fine with that. But if you're selling me beef burgers, then I want the meat parts to be beef. I have no particular gut reaction against eating horse and it can actually be tasty to mix a little pork into ground beef; I just think they should be honest about what they are selling.

It just comes down to honesty.

Re:Honesty (1)

Chuckstar (799005) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641733)

I meant to also include the concept that whatever they are adding (fillers, flavorings, other types of meat) should be labeled as such. Even if it's just a little extra water and some garlic powder, I think they should put that on the label.

Honesty.

Re:Honesty (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641863)

But it really isn't their fault, it is the suppliers trying to cut costs.
Well, it is partially their problem. They should be regularly testing supplies at random to ensure they are of a minimum quality and are what they say they are.
In the end, even these stores were being ripped off since they were being sold a product that was labelled incorrectly.

I, too, would be completely fine with the burgers.
But calling them beef burgers is wrong, even if majority they still are beef, but that majority needs to be huge majority to really have any meaning.

Hell, I'd rather eat horse meat given it is better overall, even if it does have a slight increase in requirements. (not that much really)
A horse can live quite happily in the same space as a cow can as well.
I think one problem would be that a cow can also be used for milking too. (which I am not sure if it is even practised, as in a dairy cow first, then being slaughtered after being raised for a little meat afterwards?)
I don't think I have ever heard of horse milk being consumed.

One thing I also wish is for some MRM providers to stop having such low-quality product.
Fine if you mush down some of the harder products humans don't typically eat, which are fine for consumption, but god damn it, ACTUALLY MUSH IT DOWN!
I don't want to be chomping on a burger quite happily then suddenly nearly breaking my teeth because there is a hard-ish bit of material!
I thought it was just a freak accident, it can happen, but was it hell, happened consistently. Stopped getting those burgers pretty soon after that.

This should shock nobody (1)

egcagrac0 (1410377) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641741)

a beefburger rarely contains 100% beef.

... and a hamburger rarely contains 100% ham.

Re:This should shock nobody (0)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641885)

Because Hamburger doesn't come from Ham + Burger, it comes from Hamburg, Germany. It just means anything coming from that location, You stupid illiterate cunt.

Re:This should shock nobody (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641979)

Whoosh!

Horsemeat, cow, dog.. what does it matter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641743)

Dont't get it, meat is meat, and with spices on it'll taste the same. If people get upset by horsemeat, cowmeat , dogmeat or whatever, maybe they shoudln't eat meat at all.

Re:Horsemeat, cow, dog.. what does it matter (1)

kannibal_klown (531544) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641849)

Dont't get it, meat is meat, and with spices on it'll taste the same. If people get upset by horsemeat, cowmeat , dogmeat or whatever, maybe they shoudln't eat meat at all.

I don't think problem is so much that people don't think ProteinX is less efficient than ProteinY...

But, if you're lying about what kind of meet is being sold... then what else are you lying about? How about the health standards? What about the chemicals used in said animal? As much steroids and stuff they put in beef (food-animals) what about animals that might not have been raised for food? What about a racing horse which can have nastier stuff in there.

Let's put it this way... let's say you find out your casual s*xual partner is lying about some pretty heavy s*x stuff... perhaps about how faithful and/or if they've gone bare-back with someone else just before you met. How much are you gonna trust "It's OK, I've been tested"

Re:Horsemeat, cow, dog.. what does it matter (1)

sjames (1099) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641861)

Because Soylent Green is people!

Pink Slime, anyone? (1)

Streetlight (1102081) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641759)

In the US awhile back there was a scandal involving something called pink slime which was added to ground "beef". TV news showed this stuff's manufacture out of leftover parts of who knows what. Watching the making or sausage or laws might have been less disgusting. Horse meat might be better than this stuff.

In the Western US there is also major concern about the round up of wild mustang horses for slaughter for dog food. Maybe some of them ended up in British grocery store raw burger.

UK only. (3, Informative)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641761)

I believe the article was referring to the UK. I don't know what the laws are there, but here in the U.S., a company would be closed down quickly if it were found the meat had been adulterated like that.

Sure, there was the flap over "pink slime"... but that was still beef, though it was washed in ammonia. I don't think it was the meat people were bitching about so much as the ammonia.

It should be noted that only one company produced the ammonia-soaked "pink slime", and they don't do it anymore. Other companies process trimmings, too, but they already used other methods to keep the meat bacteria-free.)

Many companies do it (1)

RenHoek (101570) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641765)

It's like Taco Bell, implying that you're actually getting 100% beef, while instead they say "We start with 100% beef". Of course in the end you only end up with 36% meat, but that's not something they advertise very loudly.

None (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641793)

I only eat chickenburgers, you insensitive clod.

Various meats ... (1)

Kittenman (971447) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641799)

Interesting how the Brits feel funny eating Horsemeat. Sister-in-law in Vancouver, Canada has served Steak & Kidney pie to local Canucks, who aren't too keen on the ingredients once they hear what they are (well, one of them).

Maybe we need a slashdot poll on "What sorts of meat are deemed inappropriate to eat in your country?"
Pork ... "sweetbreads" ... Prairie oysters ... etc etc

Soylent Green (1)

thepacketmaster (574632) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641801)

Nuff' said

Real information about meat (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641819)

Inside meat info:
meatspin [meatspin.com]

Re:Real information about meat (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641969)

posting a picture of some blokes dong going around and around while another blokes meat is shoved up his arse is not a very senstive thing to post to other slashdot readers........UNCOol

I'm going to be sick! (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641843)

From the linked article:

"The presence of horsemeat in value beefburgers has caused a furore. But what is usually in the patties? It has been a sobering week for fans of the beefburger. Tesco have used full-page adverts in national newspapers to apologise for selling burgers in the UK that were found to contain 29% horsemeat. Traces of horse DNA were also detected by the Food Standards Agency of Ireland in products sold by Iceland, Lidl, Aldi and Dunnes. But a beefburger rarely contains 100% beef."

"An eight-pack of Tesco Everyday Value Beefburgers, one of the products cited as potentially containing horse flesh, contains 63% beef, 10% onion and unlisted percentages of wheat flour, water, beef fat, soya protein isolate, salt, onion powder, yeast, sugar, barley malt extract, garlic powder, white pepper extract, celery extract and onion extract. Asda's Smartprice Economy Beefburgers -not among those identified by the Irish testers as containing horse or pig DNA -contain 59% beef along with other ingredients such as rusk, water, stabilisers (diphosphates and triphosphates) and beef fat."

So the English and the Irish have been unknowingly been eating 'Flicka'?! Ew-w-w!!

"Both products cost just £1 a box, as do similar frozen burgers sold by Iceland. The Oakhurst 100% Beef Quarter Pounders, sold by Aldi and implicated in the scandal, cost £1.39 for a box of eight."

That is pretty cheap for eight pattys though. How can an American get these in the U.S.?

Re:I'm going to be sick! (1)

turkeyfeathers (843622) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641971)

That is pretty cheap for eight pattys though. How can an American get these in the U.S.?

Just ask around at your local race course.

Not just burgers... (4, Funny)

ChatHuant (801522) | about a year and a half ago | (#42641893)

They never tell us how much dog is in our hot dogs either :(

What The Hell? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42641921)

What the hell is this doing on Slashdot?

And why is everyone discussing beef in the comments like it's competely normal for a tech website for nerds to post this stuff...

...on the frontpage, no less!

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