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WindowsAndroid Lets You Run Android 4.0 Natively On Your PC

Soulskill posted about a year ago | from the hey-why-not dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "WindowsAndroid is a very cool tool from the Beijing-based startup SocketeQ that lets you run Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) as a native application on Windows Vista, Windows 7, or Windows 8 machines. The creators tell us they have a deep background in virtualization, operating system, and graphics technologies, and have been working on the project for years. Essentially, WindowsAndroid allows you not only to execute Android apps on your Windows computer, but also use the browser, not to mention every other component of the operating system."

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yeah bitch (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693713)

first

Re:yeah bitch (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693819)

Chrome on Android on Windows is really fast, huh?

Awesome (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693727)

Will make debugging of mobile HTML5 apps easier

It's already easy... (2)

MatrixCubed (583402) | about a year ago | (#42694349)

...and thoroughly documented [google.com].

Re:It's already easy... (1)

fluffy99 (870997) | about a year ago | (#42695599)

...and thoroughly documented [google.com].

This is not the same as the remote debugging for Chrome on Android your cite. This is the ability to actually run ICS 4.0 as a VM on your PC. No android device is actually required. The also appear to have a goal to run Android as the native OS on desktop hardware. Interesting, as Microsoft is trying to make their OS look and feel like an app-centric OS like apple and android, someone is trying to go the other direction.

from China . . . (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693757)

All Your Base Belong to Us!

No Way?! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693761)

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Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

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Re:No Way?! (2, Insightful)

Jeng (926980) | about a year ago | (#42694225)

Any suggestions on a better forum to read?

Re:No Way?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694251)

HackerNews.

Re:No Way?! (1)

Jeng (926980) | about a year ago | (#42694477)

I don't like the way the threads are laid out, no titles of different threads.

I hate slashdots default view also, I still use classic view.

Awesome (1)

Agares (1890982) | about a year ago | (#42693763)

I always that it would be cool to be able to mess with Android on a desktop. It would be fun to try this VM out.

Chinese product... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693781)

...do not trust.

i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (5, Insightful)

etash (1907284) | about a year ago | (#42693785)

how many of you would think it twice before willingly installing software from a chinese software company -- given all the news we hear recently about chinese companies being denied access to important western markets due to security reasons and all.

Re:i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694033)

Sandbox it. It's an Android emulator, if it can't run in a sandbox at full mobile device speeds, it's not worth using. If it can't run in a sandbox because it requires administrator access to your boot sector, delete with extreme prejudice.

Re:i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (2)

poetmatt (793785) | about a year ago | (#42694501)

You mean....like a VM?

like everyone else runs android on anything other than a phone/tablet? /facepalm for windowsandroid software to even be created

Re:i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (2)

iamhassi (659463) | about a year ago | (#42695413)

You mean....like a VM?

like everyone else runs android on anything other than a phone/tablet? /facepalm for windowsandroid software to even be created

chrome in android in windows in vmware in windows? #Inception

Re:i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (4, Insightful)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about a year ago | (#42694073)

I agree. I was going to post that here as well, and face the risk of getting modded down. it's simple - why give a chinese company access to your computer, where they can snoop PWs, IDs, CCs, SSNs, etc?

Re:i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42695403)

yeah let them get that from your phone.

Re:i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694227)

How many think twice when they use google given its history of suveillance of users? At least as far as I know, google has lost in China not because of government blocking, but because it sucks in product quality.

Re:i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694457)

google has lost in China not because of government blocking, but because it sucks in product quality.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. First of all, it does not hinge on "the government", but certain ministry official that want to be well greased. When those are faced between the decision to accept grease from a Chinese and a foreigner, the foreigner always loses; that's why Google's inland competitors are easily pulling ahead. Second, the party recognises the danger of unrestricted flow and exchange of information as provided through Google's search engine, so they would not let them go forward that easily - it is the need to stay in control so that social changes come slowly and gradually, avoiding chaos and upheaval. Lastly, it is ridiculous to claim that Android lacks in quality - the Chinese invented Shanzhai and idolise its culture, to the extent that anyone puts up with the quality of knockoff software when someone else would long since have given up in frustration.

Re:i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42695497)

How many think twice when they use google given its history of suveillance of users? At least as far as I know, google has lost in China not because of government blocking, but because it sucks in product quality.

I do, but no one cares about an AC. And you're right, google and android will eventually die out in china as soon as a halfway decent replacement is found, and since china is over 20% of the world and they use 90% Android, expect Android to lose over 20% of the market in the next few years. But no one on /. wants to hear anything negative about google or chrome, so this will be marked flamebait troll

Re:i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694347)

You mean the accusations without proof from the US government? The same government that's been waging a cyber-war against other countries in secret for years now? The same government who can run surveillance on their own citizens without a warrant by handing someone a post-it note?

Re:i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42695257)

Troll much?

Yes you are biased but you should be paranoid (2)

dogsbreath (730413) | about a year ago | (#42694399)

er . . . about the same worry as any software from anywhere. Do your self protection rituals and don't install it on anything that contains critical information. Look for oddities (unexpected network connections etc) and check for an online community that may show some pedigree for the software.

Trojan software is a real worry but the fact that it comes from China does not seem to me to alter the worry level. ie: be worried and be careful

A very cursory check of sites that track threats shows China as a source is about on a par with the US. Somewhat worse but still, a lot of malware comes from the good ol US of A. Most sites seem to agree that the USSR er Soviets er Commies er RUSSIA is a major source of crap, standing out from the others.

eh, stats is stats.

The reason Chinese companies (ummm: Huawei) have been labelled a security worry is that the People's Lib Army of the PROC is assumed to be the defacto owner. Worry being that their routers/switches/cell equipment come with back doors pre-installed.

Who knows if this is true or not, but I have often wondered if companies like Cisco, Juniper, Alcatel-Lucent, Siemens etc are working closely with their own governments to provide "special" firmware loads for foreign installations. Maybe domestic as well. But I may be paranoid. ;->

Governments have been caught in the past doing industrial espionage for their own domestic interests. The French apparently bugged first class airline seats for competitive business reasons and the Chinese reported that a Boeing 767 was delivered complete with surveillance bugs.

So: although China doesn't worry more than say the US, it doesn't worry me any less either.

Re:i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (3, Insightful)

gmuslera (3436) | about a year ago | (#42694847)

The problem with chinese products is that you don't know if they will try to get your data or not. Thats the advantage of US based products/services, with them you are sure [google.com]

Re:i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42695119)

Exactly -- "All your base are belong to us!"

This may an entirely legitimate company offering a useful product, but the headline alone reminds me of "Make A Million of Dollars A Week At Home!!!" [sic].

Re:i know what i'm thinking is heavily biased but! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42695455)

I have removed Android apps after I find out they are from a Company based in China.

color me skeptical (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693807)

China? Only if it's completely open source and multiple peers have audited the code for security.

Developers (3, Insightful)

Therad (2493316) | about a year ago | (#42693823)

Seems like a good thing for android developers. The current simulator is a bit slow.

Re:Developers (5, Funny)

inamorty (1227366) | about a year ago | (#42694079)

The current simulator is a bit slow.

I'm curious.
What kind of filter are you using that is able to remove all traces of swearing from your post? It's very effective!

Re:Developers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694737)

The current simulator is a bit slow.

HAXM (http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-hardware-accelerated-execution-manager) is your friend.

Honestly devices are better ... (1)

perpenso (1613749) | about a year ago | (#42694935)

Seems like a good thing for android developers. The current simulator is a bit slow.

Honestly devices are better. Getting a $300 Nexus 4 phone or a $200 Nexus 7 tablet for development purposes is the way to go. The simulator is fine for limited use, primarily for different screens to test your user interface, but for day to day work I prefer actual devices. YMMV.

From China..? (4, Interesting)

mr.dreadful (758768) | about a year ago | (#42693831)

Is anyone else a little hesitant to run Chinese software? I don't want to be xenophobic, but I'm a bit leery of either Russian or Chinese software.

Re:From China..? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693953)

I am wary of Americans because they are known mass murderes...

Re:From China..? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694217)

Meanwhile, in China and Russia, the mass murderers are hidden from the news. Wouldn't want information being leaked out that would tarnish the Grand Pubah's reputation.

Americans are KNOWN... Chinese and Russians are hidden behind a government approved stamp of approval.

Re:From China..? (1)

Remus Shepherd (32833) | about a year ago | (#42694525)

I am wary of Americans because they are known mass murderes...

If you were inviting me into your house and I had a gun, you would be perfectly reasonable to be wary.

In this case we're inviting Chinese software into our computers. Wariness is still recommended.

Re:From China..? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42695447)

But the biggest advertising giant the world has ever seen; come on over, here is my password, and do you mind reading all my emails for me.

Re:From China..? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693969)

You could always run it in a VM. I intend on trying this out. I'll probably use VMWare.

Re:From China..? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694105)

Why? The USA agencies are the world's biggest spybotmalwaremeister.

Re:From China..? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694433)

Everything in China should be considered to be under the direct control or influence of their government, which makes anything they produce a Trojan Horse. Scary how much of our stuff relies on so much of their stuff here. I would (were I in charge) insist that the US have at least two (for redundancy) electronics manufacturers/fabricators that use 100% US personnel throughout their company, that ALL of them right down to the guys washing the windows have at least Secret security clearances, and require everything defense, and everything govt., and everything that interfaces with any of the above, including all FDIC/FSLIC/NCUA member financial institutions, etc., use exclusively products from these US companies, or be ineligible to inter-operate, have govt. contracts, be insured, etc. This would include anyone that receives public money, so pretty much all medical facilities, all schools, colleges, farms... we could bring it all back... and it makes no sense not to.

This thing we do where all our critical infrastructure is manufactured by former or current enemies is insane. I'm sure the rationality, the thinking behind it is basically that they can and (hopefully!) do check the chips to make sure there aren't any backdoors, etc., but of course there ARE always, and the only real question is about finding them, and removing them or being able to block them, depending on the technology you're talking about.

Maybe one day we (by which I mean our government) will wake up and go back to making things in our own country before our current practices take a massive bite out of our collective and individual asses. Maybe.

Re:From China..? (2)

Hatta (162192) | about a year ago | (#42694923)

That's how I feel about all closed source software. I'm not sure why I should trust American code over Russian or Chinese code.

Re:From China..? (1)

Virtucon (127420) | about a year ago | (#42695313)

Humm, lots of software products, ones that are very good don't come from the US. Acronis, Kaspersky and others aren't "made in the USA." I would think however that any "free" software that isn't open source would be something that I'd avoid, regardless of who produces it.

Does it handle OpenGL, then? (1)

BenJeremy (181303) | about a year ago | (#42693845)

OK, for testing apps, this would be nice, since the Android SDK's emulator sucks for most anything people do in apps these days. The emulator doesn't handle OpenGL ES, and probably a lot of other details I haven't bothered with.

Re:Does it handle OpenGL, then? (4, Informative)

ewanm89 (1052822) | about a year ago | (#42694323)

Actually, hardware accelerated graphics is available in the Android SDK emulator, it's still marked experimental and has a few caveats, but is available (since SDK tools 17).

In Red China... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693853)

...software virtualize you.

http://androvm.org (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693855)

AndroVM is better, runs on GNU/Linux and already supports hardware accelerated OpenGL rendering of Android games when the game installer is not huge (less than 100 MB in size).

Re:http://androvm.org (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694279)

Good for you dipshit, but as the whole story is about android on WINDOWS, your self-righteous FOSS bullshit is a little misplaced here. Please kill yourself with a home made knife.

Re:http://androvm.org (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694587)

You realize Android is FOSS, don't you, you raving idiot?

Re:http://androvm.org (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694395)

This is about a Windows emulator, who gives a shit about another one that runs Linux?

Re:http://androvm.org (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694551)

This is about a Windows emulator, who gives a shit about another one that runs Linux?

I do, so eat a bag of dicks. :)

Re:http://androvm.org (4, Interesting)

phorm (591458) | about a year ago | (#42694911)

Any luck running Netflix on it?
That's about the only thing other than games I run Windows for.

trust (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693861)

This is a relatively trivial concept, so it should be almost trivial to implement.
However, the simple fact is that I do not trust these guys to get the security right.

Let me know when Google buys these guys (I'm sure that's their real business plan anyway), and then I might consider using the product.

Re:trust (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694059)

This is a relatively trivial concept, so it should be almost trivial to implement.

Hah, I beg to disagree. Try coding an even a simple application and you will be surprised how many things there will be to take care of.

Re:trust (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694679)

yeah yeah. I meant to type "and it should be ...".

I didn't mean to say that all trivial things are trivial to implement; just that this particular problem should be trivial to implement.

Some stuff won't work? (1)

sideslash (1865434) | about a year ago | (#42693877)

- Graphics acceleration isn't done yet, so presumably will be very slow.
- Anything in an app that's compiled for ARM (e.g. if an app has CPU intensive stuff done in C++) shouldn't work if I understand their approach correctly -- i.e. it's not existing within a virtual machine but rather is a port / recompile of the Android OS to run natively on Windows.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong...

Re:Some stuff won't work? (2)

ewanm89 (1052822) | about a year ago | (#42694305)

You are mostly right, except virtualization needs same instruction set too, it is emulation that allows one to run a different instruction set to the host.

Is this different from Bluestacks? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693893)

How does this compare to Bluestacks (bluestacks.com)?

Alternative to... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42693939)

Bluestacks anyone?

BlueStacks (5, Informative)

Jason Levine (196982) | about a year ago | (#42693943)

Looks similar to what BlueStacks does. http://www.bluestacks.com/

And, for those posting about being wary of software from a Chinese company, BlueStacks is located in California.

No, It's Not Like Bluestacks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694103)

No it isn't. If you read the article, you'll realize why. In fact, the article actually meantions Bluestacks.

Re:BlueStacks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694189)

I meant to download this. Thanks for reminding me. Forgot the name entirely.

Re:BlueStacks (2, Informative)

ArhcAngel (247594) | about a year ago | (#42694191)

I've been running BlueStacks [bluestacks.com] on my laptop for over a year now. And with their port to ARM [techcrunch.com] Windows RT devices should be able to use it as well.

Re:BlueStacks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694271)

Given what I keep hearing about coming out of California, I am not sure if I would rather run Californian or Chinese software. The Chinese software might steal from me, but the Californian software will find a way to tax me.

Re:BlueStacks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42695187)

And, for those posting about being wary of software from an american company?

Re:BlueStacks (1)

Virtucon (127420) | about a year ago | (#42695375)

Oh hell no. BlueStacks is a mind numbing experience. I tried it and can only describe the experience as the closest thing I'll come to being repeatedly hit on the head with a hammer.

AndroVM is great! I've also tinkered with the Android X86 project [android-x86.org] code as well but under a VM, not on native iron.

Windroid (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694025)

They should have called it Windroid

Peeling the onion (4, Interesting)

nanospook (521118) | about a year ago | (#42694037)

I have an app that runs windows on my phone. I wonder if I can run Socket in there? Wouldn't that be the bomb?

Virtualization (1)

pradeepsekar (793666) | about a year ago | (#42694045)

Such emulators have been around for long where one can use apps of one platform on another (Wine anyone). Whats the news here...? I can understand why someone would want to play an Android game or use some such app that is not available for the PC using this. But why would one want to run a browser inside Android when a perfectly good browser could be used directly from Windows. The novelty of it would wear away soon I guess.

BTW, Bluestacks runs Android apps on both Windows and Mac machines. WindowsAndroid can claim to be better than Bluestacks when they get their platform running on Mac *and* Linux too! Or perhaps when it can run Android on a Windows phone at native speeds (well, that would be an awesome one if it could be done).

Re:Virtualization (1)

Jorl17 (1716772) | about a year ago | (#42694555)

Please don't call it an emulator, it makes me cringe. Wine really isn't an emulator, period.

Beijing-based (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694125)

Beijing-based! Cool! I bet there isn't any spyware in there.

Impressive! (2)

lennier1 (264730) | about a year ago | (#42694143)

The lengths people will go to in order to finally get a working alternative to the SDK's goddamn piece of shit of an emulator.

Already in the SDK. (5, Interesting)

ewanm89 (1052822) | about a year ago | (#42694261)

The SDK can already hardware virtualize an x86 image already (via Intel HAXM on windows and Mac and KVM on Linux), and there is a 4.0.4 x86 image in the repositories.

Re:Already in the SDK. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694455)

mod this up, You can run an x86 android using existing virtualisation solutions

Re:Already in the SDK. (2)

thygate (1590197) | about a year ago | (#42694559)

The x86 AVD that comes with the SDK has its up and downs. Nice that it also supports gles2.0 etc. But it crashes a lot which makes it very difficult to use as a test/debug platform. For instance it crashes every time when the IME comes up for text input. In the system, in the API demos, ..

Cool--But does it roun on wine? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694273)

(ducks)

Perfect (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694285)

Wait 9 months for Surface Pro tablets to flop then pick one up cheap and run Ice Cream Sandwich on it.

I love potted meat products (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694309)

To get an early release of WindowsAndroid, you first have to fill out the download form (make sure to provide a valid email address) and grab the hefty 64.8MB installer via the download link you receive in your inbox.

To get an early release, but there will never be anything other than "early" release, you first have to fill out the download form with all your personal details and a valid email address, so your data can be harvested and sold to massive spam churning jerks for fractions of a penny. Then get a link back to the web server for an installer that will undoubtedly require admin rights to install a whole lot of unknown software with no source code to review or compile yourself.

Re:I love potted meat products (1)

EmagGeek (574360) | about a year ago | (#42695103)

And you forgot the most important part:

FROM CHINA.

No, thanks. I'll just install the x86 android port in VirtualBox like I've been doing since Gingerbread.

Nope (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42694469)

From China myself, and I wouldn't poke that thing with a bamboo stick.

Need Windows emulator... (5, Funny)

marciot (598356) | about a year ago | (#42694747)

I would like to try this on my Android phone. Does anyone know of a good Windows emulator I can use to run this software?

News for turds (1, Offtopic)

zmooc (33175) | about a year ago | (#42694929)

How is proprietary software that only runs on proprietary operating systems, is "in early development status" and does something that existing open source software does much better news for nerds or stuff that matters? Did I overlook the advertorial tag?

Natively? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42695055)

Am I missing something? How is emulating another OS on top of the first OS, running it natively? Isn't Windows the native OS on a Windows box?

Why not Flash or Silverlight? (1)

danparker276 (1604251) | about a year ago | (#42695147)

Is this why flash adobe air or Silverlight OOB is supposed to be good for? The same app running on different platforms? Oh wait then you don't have to go through the app store which is a lot of fun.

What about native run on GNU/Linux (1)

godrik (1287354) | about a year ago | (#42695227)

I always wondered if it could be possible to run android natively on a gnu/linux distribution. The android kernel and linux kernel are so similar. I understand most of the userspace is different, but running in a different cgroups and in a different chroot should provide some help with it. Anybody had some success with that?

Great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42695427)

So, let's install on our Windows machines an obscure application that emulates an obsolete version of Android and is developed by an obscure Chinese company, just for fun!

bluestacks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42695503)

This is nothing new. Use bluestacks vrs the Chinese clone They have been around since Oct 2011.

http://www.bluestacks.com/

Joe

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