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Steve Jobs Movie Clip Historically Inaccurate, Says Woz

Soulskill posted about a year ago | from the movies-aren't-burdened-with-trivialities-like-accuracy dept.

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Yesterday saw the release of a clip from the upcoming movie jOBS, a biopic about the life of Apple co-founder Steve Jobs. The clip shows Jobs, played by Ashton Kutcher, having a conversation with Steve Wozniak, played by Josh Gad, about how influential an operating system for a personal computer would be. The real Steve Wozniak commented on the clip, saying the situation it portrayed was "totally wrong." He said, "Personalities and where the ideas of computers affecting society did not come from Jobs. They inspired me and were widely spoken at the Homebrew Computer Club. Steve came back from Oregon and came to a club meeting and didn't start talking about this great social impact. His idea was to make a $20 PC board and sell it for $40 to help people at the club build the computer I'd given away. Steve came from selling surplus parts at HalTed he always saw a way to make a quick buck off my designs (this was the 5th time). The lofty talk came much further down the line." Wozniak was quick to add that he isn't making any judgment on the quality of the movie based on a single, 1-minute clip, and that the rest of the movie may or may not be more accurate. He also says he hopes it's entertaining.

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FIRST POST! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42696699)

first post!

More context provided in the extended clip. (5, Funny)

Sheetrock (152993) | about a year ago | (#42696709)

This scene came after the bit where Jobs signed The Beatles, and before he wrote the software that made the special effects in the original Star Wars trilogy possible.

Re:More context provided in the extended clip. (-1, Offtopic)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about a year ago | (#42697029)

Re: your signature. Is that a joke or did that line actually come from an old Star Trek episode?

Re:More context provided in the extended clip. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697073)

Re: your signature. Is that a joke or did that line actually come from an old Star Trek episode?

As Benjamin Franklin once said, "yes, that was an actual line from an old Star Trek episode".

Re:More context provided in the extended clip. (4, Funny)

servognome (738846) | about a year ago | (#42697137)

The line wasn't uttered on the air, it was printed in Dr. Spock's book on child care

Re:More context provided in the extended clip. (5, Funny)

ischorr (657205) | about a year ago | (#42697307)

I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but I'm pretty sure this is grounds for Slashdot account deletion.

Re:More context provided in the extended clip. (1)

monkeyhybrid (1677192) | about a year ago | (#42697333)

No, it's the wise words of Yoda [youtube.com] in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope.

Re:More context provided in the extended clip. (2)

Spiridios (2406474) | about a year ago | (#42697373)

Re: your signature. Is that a joke or did that line actually come from an old Star Trek episode?

Damn it Jim, he's a scientist, not a doctor!

Apple fans (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42696721)

Script writer must be an iPhone zealot.

Apple summed up in one breath! (5, Insightful)

phx_zs (1772496) | about a year ago | (#42696731)

"His idea was to make a $20 PC board and sell it for $40 to help people at the club build the computer I'd given away"

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (5, Informative)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#42696883)

Ok, the Apple Mod Army will be here any minute now. Grab your ankles.

Aggrandizement of Jobs was probably the only option open to the screenwriters.
If the movie were written to show the real Jobs, they would have been sued into oblivion.

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (0, Offtopic)

BasilBrush (643681) | about a year ago | (#42696967)

"His idea was to make a $20 PC board and sell it for $40 to help people at the club build the computer I'd given away"

That's also the idea of the Raspberry Pi. Of course it's good when they do it, but evil if Apple did it.

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697095)

"His idea was to make a $20 PC board and sell it for $40 to help people at the club build the computer I'd given away"

That's also the idea of the Raspberry Pi. Of course it's good when they do it, but evil if Apple did it.

Uh... I really doubt that Wozniak's position is that Apple is or was evil.

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697127)

The Raspberry Pi is a non-profit organization. When a charity feeds the poor with at-cost-produce, you don't see a lot of people complaining they're undercutting the competition...

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (4, Informative)

DarkOx (621550) | about a year ago | (#42697179)

I don't know if you are being sarcastic or not but the two are hardly the same.

Steve's idea was to sell something for $40 that the customer could build themselves for $20, a 100% markup. The idea the folks behind Raspberry Pi have is to order parts in a quantity of scale that allows them to build and sell you something you could not hope to put together yourself for that price.

That is not the same thing at all.

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (0, Troll)

BasilBrush (643681) | about a year ago | (#42697259)

The Raspberry Pi is being marketed by companies like Farnell and RS Components. They are profit making companies. If you think they aren't making a profit on this, I've got a bridge to sell you.

The only difference is that you like the guys behind the Raspberry Pi and you hate SJ/Apple.

There is nothing wrong with making a product that people want and making a profit on selling it.

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (2)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a year ago | (#42697409)

Irrelevant. They might be making a profit, but it's still cheaper than you could make it yourself due to the economies of scale.

Also, I dislike Apple for many reasons, but putting a markup on a product and selling it isn't one of them.

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697235)

The Great Woz is giving away pie? I didn't know he baked.

Sign me up for one.

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42696977)

Why is the concept of making money considered so evil here?

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697063)

It's not making money that's the problem, it's scamming the customer and stealing from the engineer the way Steve Jobs did it.

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697197)

Man, I wish Steve Jobs had "ripped me off" to the tune of a 100 million dollar net worth [therichest.org] .

This explains why Woz spends his days eating top ramen from a reused plastic bowl night after night in his stinking 1-room flat with a leaking roof, crippled with pneumonia and gout because he can't afford medical care, just waiting for death, so his cats can begin eating him from the extermities inward.

Poor, poor Woz. He might have had an amazing future, if Steve Jobs hadn't fucked him over.

Oh no that's right, he made all his money on the "Wheels of Zeus" vaporware, didn't he? You know, the company he founded that was free of that evil Jobsian taint, that cemented his reputation as a man who really knew how to build a product and bring it to market!

Woz is a smart guy. He's not a businessman, or a "product" guy. Jobs didn't 'rip him off,' Jobs helped him build a product that was massively successful. Without Jobs, it's likely that Woz would have been just another asshole at HP who dicked around with some hardware in his spare time and then died in obscurity. This doesn't mean that Jobs could do no wrong, or that he always engaged in ethical business practices - but without Jobs, there's no Woz, and without Woz, there's no Jobs.

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697399)

100 Million is chump change for his contribution, he should be a billionaire, to the tune of 15+ billion minimum.

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697199)

Making money is good. Being a dishonest psychopath is bad,

Re:Apple summed up in one breath! (2)

Kenja (541830) | about a year ago | (#42697205)

Actually, I would say that's every commercial company ever summed up.

Oops (5, Funny)

Computershack (1143409) | about a year ago | (#42696737)

Bit of a bitch for the script writer when someone who was actually there at the time who was 50% of the partnership is still alive and can call bullshit. One wonders why they didn't bother asking Woz for information about what happened.

Re:Oops (5, Insightful)

ShanghaiBill (739463) | about a year ago | (#42696823)

One wonders why they didn't bother asking Woz for information about what happened.

Because they are more interested in making the movie entertaining than historically accurate. Woz is quibbling over details. Most movies about things that really happened have huge deviations from accuracy. For example, the movie about Facebook [wikipedia.org] had a completely made-up girlfriend as a significant character.

Re:Oops (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42696875)

Because the truth doesn't sell well. Blind idol worship over a dead guy is much sexier.

Re:Oops (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42696939)

Woz is quibbling over details.

I dunno. Woz is actually quite nice. If somebody made a movie with me in it in which I wear a suit and tie even though I never do that in real life, I'd be pretty pissed.

Re:Oops (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697013)

or Black Hawk Down.. and you know... Americans being liked

Re:Oops (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697271)

Wait, there were people who believed that Zuckerberg had a girlfriend in college?

Re:Oops (1, Insightful)

BasilBrush (643681) | about a year ago | (#42697031)

You think all the scenes in Lincoln really happened? Or The Iron Lady? Or Moneyball? Or the Social Network? Or 127 hours?

It's a movie. It's entertainment. Just because it's a biopic, doesn't mean it's a literal reporting of history as it happened. If they made them like that, they'd bomb at the box office for being 4 hours of tedium.

Re:Oops (5, Funny)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a year ago | (#42697047)

One wonders why they didn't bother asking Woz for information about what happened.

I think the quote shows exactly why they didn't bother asking Woz for information about what happened.

It's hard to create a hagiography when the saint's family is around to tell everybody that he pissed in the bathtub.

Re:Oops (5, Funny)

SolitaryMan (538416) | about a year ago | (#42697303)

Bit of a bitch for the script writer when someone who was actually there at the time who was 50% of the partnership is still alive and can call bullshit. One wonders why they didn't bother asking Woz for information about what happened.

Because they want to spend $20M on the movie and sell it for $40M.

Re:Oops (1)

whisper_jeff (680366) | about a year ago | (#42697345)

Two movies are being made about Jobs.

One is written by Aaron Sorkin.

  One is staring Ashton Kutcher.

I'll let you guess to which one Woz is probably offering consulting comments.

Oh Hollywood! Thou art a heartless bitch (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42696741)

Since when is Hollywood historically accurate? They added explosions in a Robin Hood movie and a hot air ballon in a movie about the three musketeers.

Re:Oh Hollywood! Thou art a heartless bitch (2)

Savage-Rabbit (308260) | about a year ago | (#42696917)

Since when is Hollywood historically accurate? They added explosions in a Robin Hood movie and a hot air ballon in a movie about the three musketeers.

Yeah, Abraham Lincoln was a vampire hunter [imdb.com] ?!? I had no idea until I drank the Kool-Aid that is Hollywood's historical accuracy.

Historicaly accurate (4, Insightful)

onyxruby (118189) | about a year ago | (#42696761)

Does anyone want to see something historically accurate? Do you really want to see Jobs portrayed accurately?

It will never happen because the hero worship that is going to sell this movie would die if people knew the real Steve Jobs. You know the guy that stole other peoples ideas, actively suppressed worker wages, humiliated employees and random people he met, screwed over Steve Jobs, refused his own daughter for years, tore apart people's life work, disrespected other companies intellectual property and then started World War P.

You could fill this thread with war stories from the people that Steve Jobs burned. That's now what's going to sell this movie at this time, give it a few years and someone might be willing to do so, but until the idol worship tempers down it simply wont sell.

Re:Historicaly accurate (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42696831)

Jobs is the new Edison. They were both self-loving monsters who stole and borrowed, then claimed credit.

Re:Historicaly accurate (1)

onyxruby (118189) | about a year ago | (#42696861)

Good comparison, makes me wonder if history will come through or not. Tesla eventually started to get his due in society but it took decades and many school children are still taught to treat Edison as a hero.

Re:Historicaly accurate (1)

ganjadude (952775) | about a year ago | (#42696897)

It wasnt until the late 90s that were were even introduced to tesla. but in the past 15 years or so he has been givin his credit, many decades to late. but to be fair the books were telling us about edison stealing the ideas, but worded in a way that made edison look like a good guy

Re:Historicaly accurate (3, Interesting)

onyxruby (118189) | about a year ago | (#42696933)

True enough on what you have said. The sad thing is Edison /was/ a genius and did invent quite a few things on his own. He didn't need to steal ideas from other people like he did in order to be one of the greatest inventors in history.

Unfortunately he was an incredible asshole and went ahead and stole other peoples ideas anyways. I have heard it said that Edison was histories first great patent troll, and I think you could make a fair argument for that.

Re:Historicaly accurate (1)

cusco (717999) | about a year ago | (#42697261)

Edison was also one of the first great marketing geniuses. We can only imagine the world we would live in today if he hadn't gone so far out of his way to first rip off and then piss off Tesla and the two had been willing to work together. Tesla's creative genius and Edison's remarkable talent for manufacturing and marketing practical devices would have given us an entirely different world than we have today. Instead he was such a greedy and aggressive asshole that he even managed to get the better of George Westinghouse.

Re:Historicaly accurate (1)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#42697003)

Did you mean many decades TOO late ??

Also, don't minimize the amount of hero worship that Tesla is now receiving. Not all of it is warranted.

Re:Historicaly accurate (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697155)

*many school children are still taught to treat Edison as a hero*

There are still good reasons to do this. Edison has always attributed his successes to determination. How many students have heard his line about

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."

Tesla, on the other hand, was simply a genius (at least the way he is presented).

Considering studies on learning have shown that students praised for effort (Edison) rather than being smart (Tesla), IMO there ARE good reasons to teach about Edison. (Not to say we should ignore Tesla)

Re:Historicaly accurate (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697185)

Crap, didn't complete that sentence.

> Considering studies on learning have shown that students praised for effort (Edison) rather than being smart (Tesla) tend to perform better and develop better learning habits, IMO there ARE good reasons to teach about Edison. (Not to say we should ignore Tesla)

Re:Historicaly accurate (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697267)

When did Jobs claim credit for the Apple I or II?

No one is saying Jobs designed all the landmark products himself, but everyone who is fair thinks he was the critical factor in their design. Without him, it's unlikely we'd ever have seen MacOS or any of the other risky but well designed products from Apple. The people who did the work making them would have been at other companies, designing ugly products at the lower threshold of useability, slowly pushing the state of the art forward. Shit like this [anythingbutipod.com] .

Re:Historicaly accurate (5, Informative)

jlund (73067) | about a year ago | (#42696841)

My understanding is that Pirates of the Silicon Valley is fairly accurate. Does not paint Jobs in the best light.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168122/

Re:Historicaly accurate (4, Informative)

SolitaryMan (538416) | about a year ago | (#42697371)

Well, sorta...

It is still a movie and it dramatizes a lot of very simple Gates' and Jobs' actions. If you want a real history, I suggest going with documentary Triumph of the Nerds [wikipedia.org]

Re:Historicaly accurate (1)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#42696955)

if people knew the real Steve Jobs. You know the guy that stole other peoples ideas, actively suppressed worker wages, humiliated employees and random people he met, screwed over Steve Jobs,

Wait, he screwed over himself?

You mean screwed over Steve Wozniak I presume.

Re:Historicaly accurate (1, Redundant)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year ago | (#42696963)

Don't forget how he changed cars every six months (same model, different car) so he never had to have a licence plate and could park in disabled bays with impunity.

Re:Historicaly accurate (0)

BasilBrush (643681) | about a year ago | (#42697091)

He could park in the disabled bays regardless of the license plates. He was CEO of the company that put the bays there in the first place.

Re:Historicaly accurate (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697239)

Not sure if that's true.

At least where i live you have to have a certain % of disabled spaces, if those are filled by the non-disabled upper management, they're not disabled spaces.

Re:Historicaly accurate (1)

Jonner (189691) | about a year ago | (#42696973)

It will never happen because the hero worship that is going to sell this movie would die if people knew the real Steve Jobs. You know the guy that stole other peoples ideas, actively suppressed worker wages, humiliated employees and random people he met, screwed over Steve Jobs, refused his own daughter for years, tore apart people's life work, disrespected other companies intellectual property and then started World War P.

At least Jobs didn't discriminate in the screwing over.

No I and others want to see ... (1)

future assassin (639396) | about a year ago | (#42697021)

made up bullshit in a biography. I love to watch shows on Hitlers double life of killing Jews in his day to day in front of the public job while saving them after work hours.

Re:Historicaly accurate (1)

Lime Green Bowler (937876) | about a year ago | (#42697401)

It shouldn't sell, period. Jobs did nothing that deserves a book or movie. Only the Apple fanatics think he walks on water. He was no messiah, just a charismatic suit that ran a business. Frankly Wilford Brimley is more relevant. We should all be eating oatmeal when he passes.

They turned Woz into a loser (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42696763)

What a shit piece of film-making. Woz was the real hero behind Apple.

Re:They turned Woz into a loser (-1, Troll)

BasilBrush (643681) | about a year ago | (#42697123)

Woz was a loser. Relatively speaking. Engineers just like him because he's one of their own.

Steve Wozniak is a loser. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42696781)

This nerd can't be trusted to remember what happened, even if he was half the conversation.

Jobs was a visionary, and through sheer sweet and genius, kicked-started the personal computer revolution. Wozniak is at best, a bitter footnote in the early days of Apple.

Re:Steve Wozniak is a loser. (1)

ganjadude (952775) | about a year ago | (#42696915)

i would i could say obvious troll is obvious, but something tellls me you might be a real fanboi

Re:Steve Wozniak is a loser. (4, Interesting)

kamapuaa (555446) | about a year ago | (#42696957)

He also hold the record for Tetris on a Gameboy. When Nintendo Power magazine stopped accepting his high scores (he'd confirm by mailing in Polaroids of the screen), he started submitting his name spelled backwards.

Re:Steve Wozniak is a loser. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697017)

Neckbeards scored this -1. Everyone knows you can't properly wear a black turtleneck with a neckbeard.

Re:Steve Wozniak is a loser. (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | about a year ago | (#42697269)

Revisionary perhaps, not visionary. He was a succesful and ruthless business man, not a genius.
Without Jobs, Woz would have made a good computer that would have sold a lot less, if at all.
Without Woz, Jobs would have sold radio's or cars or some crap, and he would have been succesfull at it, but probably not computers.

lofty ideas (1)

richman555 (675100) | about a year ago | (#42696783)

Yeah, I am sure that none of these lofty realizations were seen until much much later. At the time I don't think they even knew what they did.

Halted was the focus for starting Apple?! (4, Interesting)

Aryeh Goretsky (129230) | about a year ago | (#42696849)

Hello,

The company Woz mentioned, Halted Specialties Company [halted.com] , is still around. Great source of electronics surplus and I have any fond memories of visits there over the past decades and wandering around their dusty shelves. I had no idea they were so instrumental in the founding of Apple Computer.

Regards

Aryeh Goretsky

Halted isn't HalTed (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42696899)

The original place was sold many, many years ago. The original location on Fair Oaks is under condos now.

Re:Halted isn't HalTed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697215)

Are you sure? They're using OSCommerce, so I assumed that was a hold-over from the original 80s site.

Woz hopes it's entertaining? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42696859)

In other words, Woz hopes it doesn't star Ashton Kutcher and Josh Gad.

The sad fact of life is ... (5, Insightful)

chepati (220147) | about a year ago | (#42696929)

... that 50 years from now the media will have deified Jobs and next generations will believe he was a much much larger than life superhero who bootstrapped the entire computer industry and singlehandedly created new innovative products and touched so many people on a deep and personal level through his enduring work. And the real heros, Woz and the hundreds of Apple engineers and designers, will remain a footnote in some obscure appendix in a seldom read computer book, if that.

Makes me sick, this cult of the Jobs personality and posthumous canonization of a glorified $20-profit salesman.

Re:The sad fact of life is ... (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about a year ago | (#42697039)

I stand my my theory [slashdot.org] . Steve Jobs is looking more and more evil.

Re:The sad fact of life is ... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697237)

Bill Gates is evil: "You must install our operating system."

Steve Jobs is God: "You must buy our hardware, only use our operating system, and only buy software we approve of and receive a commission for."

Re:The sad fact of life is ... (4, Insightful)

BasilBrush (643681) | about a year ago | (#42697145)

The sad fact of life is that 50 years from now the media will have deified Jobs and next generations will believe he was a much much larger than life superhero who bootstrapped the entire computer industry and singlehandedly created new innovative products and touched so many people on a deep and personal level through his enduring work. And the real heros, Woz...

It's quote amusing to see all these people criticising the deifying of Jobs, which isn't actually happening, whilst at the same time they are deifying Woz.

Hollywood cares about historical accuracy! (1)

nikhilhs (1292298) | about a year ago | (#42696947)

Just like The Social Network was based on 100% fact! So was Hackers! And The Net!

Re:Hollywood cares about historical accuracy! (1)

BasilBrush (643681) | about a year ago | (#42697163)

Well thank god they don't. The Social Network was bad enough already. Consider how boring it would have been if it'd been accurate. Endless meetings, often involving lawyers. Yawn.

Josh Gad may have not been the best choice. (2)

beltsbear (2489652) | about a year ago | (#42696981)

Well they certainly were not kind to the Woz on looks in this movie. Go back and look at the Woz in the 70's not today. He was a good looking guy, arguably better looking then Jobs. Aston Kutcher does look like Jobs in some of the other pics, remarkably so. http://images.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/steve_wozniak_steve_jobs11-660x465.jpg [intomobile.com]

Popped collar (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697309)

Steve Jobs was such a hipster he sported a douche collar before anyone thought it was cool.

Hail to the lord of all hipsters, prepare your tithe for the app store.

Re: Halted (2)

stevew (4845) | about a year ago | (#42696985)

The comment about Halted needs a little context. Halted (still in business) is an Electronics part store in the Silicon Valley (Sunnyvale off of Central Expressway & Lawerence for those who care..) I is the place you go when you need the odd-ball capacitor or resistor for your electronics project. Lots of good quality junk there.

The jobs prayer (3, Funny)

MrKaos (858439) | about a year ago | (#42697001)

  • Our steve jobs our asshole brethren
  • profit be thy name
  • thy kingdom dumb
  • they will by done, in consumerism
  • as it is in manufacturing
  • give you our pay and all our bread
  • to deliver us new shiney elation
  • as you deliver the drm used against us
  • and lead us not into education
  • but deliver us new shiney
    • da man

Two quick book recommendations (5, Informative)

Sheetrock (152993) | about a year ago | (#42697079)

...if you're a fan of late 70s/early 80s computer culture.

Somebody gave me Steven Levy's Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution as a teen (thankfully missing the minefield of shitty books with the term "hacker" in their title) and it was amazing. Early days computer hobbyists, Paul Allen and Bill Gates writing BASIC for the Altair on a timeshare and dealing with the hobbyists who wanted to copy it instead of buy it, Ken and Roberta Williams and Sierra On-Line, and so much more.

Also loved the more recent Commodore: A Company on the Edge by Brian Bagnall. Just captivates the imagination to read about people hand-drawing their CPUs. There's an enthusiasm in the early computer industry that seems to have dampened over the years, as startups and corporations begin with the money in mind rather than the starry-eyed idealism and hobbyist tendencies that powered the first personal computer businesses.

Neither of these feature Ashton Kutcher, however, or even Steve Jobs to any great extent. But if your passion for computers is in their function rather than their form I highly recommend the above books.

Re:Two quick book recommendations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697381)

Neither of these feature Ashton Kutcher, however, or even Steve Jobs to any great extent. But if your passion for computers is in their function rather than their form I highly recommend the above books.

If that's what you're after, might I also recommend "The Soul of a New Machine" by Tracy Kidder? Not about PCs, but interesting nonetheless.

frustrating! (0, Flamebait)

farble1670 (803356) | about a year ago | (#42697167)

it must be really frustrating for Job's fans that there's still someone around than can correct their white-washed version of history.

Shot in RD; Reality Distortion. (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | about a year ago | (#42697189)

It's a movie about Steve Jobs; the only way for it to be honest is if it's filled with rewritten history and selectively ommitted truths and just blatent lies.
Also, unless Apple sues the producers of this movie, it's not very realistic.

Re:Shot in RD; Reality Distortion. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697277)

Why would Apple sue them? They seem to be continuing the cult of personality.

Ashton Kutcher (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697233)

Why Ashton Kutcher?

Anywhere?

Ever.

Just

Re: Woz (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42697279)

Hasn't Woz also always said that he doesn't remember shit from before his plane accident?

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