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"Adults Only" OpenArena Now Playable On Raspberry Pi

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the raspberry-guts-look-gory dept.

First Person Shooters (Games) 65

hypnosec writes "The Raspberry Pi Foundation has released OpenArena – a multiplayer first person shooter game based on Quake III — for the Raspberry Pi. Available as a free download, the game has been rated 'Adults Only' because of the blood and guns. The open-source game is powered by the 'ioquake3' fork of the engine that Quake III runs on id's Tech 3 engine. Modifications have been made to the gameplay by removing the copyrighted material and adding new free content."

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Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (2)

jackb_guppy (204733) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700557)

WAs rememinicing about Quake Lan parties ~15 years ago. With Thin Net running aroung the house... And being between beat over and over by a 5 yr on a 486dx33!

Now in my rocker, I can look forward to I can look forward to the same on a Raspberry PI and connected to big screen.

More life changes, the more it stays the same.

Re:Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (1)

ClaraBow (212734) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700623)

Dude, you are too young for a rocker! Get yourself a 486dx66 and a gaming chair and beat the crap out of your 20 year old!

Re:Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (4, Informative)

Pieroxy (222434) | about a year and a half ago | (#42701335)

Dude, you are too young for a rocker! Get yourself a 486dx66 and a gaming chair and beat the crap out of your 20 year old!

There was no such thing as a 486dx66. However, there was something called a 486 DX2 66.

Re:Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42702633)

Pedantic much?

Re:Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (2)

Rakhar (2731433) | about a year and a half ago | (#42702691)

The memory is always the first thing to go...

Re:Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42705087)

No one cares, you fucking autist.

Re:Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709949)

Why don't you f off and write a book about how smart you are!

Re:Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year and a half ago | (#42702913)

Was working out of a guy's home mid '90s. We went to get a new computer, a Pentium Pro . He says, "You should probably get something to stress test it." So we got Duke Nukem and Quake.

Re:Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (0)

Khyber (864651) | about a year and a half ago | (#42702189)

Troll. Quake can't run on a 486 33MHz system, even with 32MB of RAM and a GLQuake capable GPU.

I tried. The GPU alone won't work with anything less than a 66MHz 486.

Re:Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (1)

I_am_Jack (1116205) | about a year and a half ago | (#42702327)

Troll? Just for remembering something wrong? You must be loads of fun at parties.

Re:Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42703931)

But Quake could run on a 486DX2 66(in postagestamp mode), so it would have run on the DX33, just more slowly, the one place it wouldn't have worked was the SX series of chips, we're talking software pixel pushing here, not GLQuake or Q3, i think you may be confused, but i wont resort to labelling you troll, you're just mistaken and a bit of a prick.

Re:Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (1)

Hsien-Ko (1090623) | about a year and a half ago | (#42704291)

Well actually, Quake can run on a 386DX [youtube.com] . Not well, but it does run and look like it should!

Furthermore, the mentioned 486 33MHz can also run it. [youtube.com]

Re:Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (4, Interesting)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year and a half ago | (#42702829)

Quake ruled. The doof who invented it didn't know what he had, with his incomprehensible hatred of the two best features: rocket jumping, which fell out naturally from the well-defined physics, and the grappling hook, the single-most popular mod, included in many other popular mods like capture the flag.

All soul was lost with Quake II, where they got rid of hateful rocket jumping, then added a hack to put it back in by popular demand. And we won't even get into the silly mechanical grappling hook.

Then came Quake 3 with jump pads. Sigh.

No soul. Even the grenade launcher went from a cool, red-light thing bouncing all over the place to a semi-sticky glowing 2-bounce sweet potato "so people could place it more easily".

No soul. Go watch Quake Done Quicker on YouTube for some groovy soul apparently forever past in history :(

Re:Just talking about Quake Lan Parties (1)

atomican (2799855) | about a year and a half ago | (#42706049)

I thought it was generally agreed (by whom I'm not sure, let's just say public opinion) that Quake 3 is the purest, most distilled deathmatch FPS to the point where it is the quintessential game to use when explaining what deathmatch is all about. Now I didn't play it much online as dialup was a shocking way to play a multiplayer FPS and even if I could, I probably would have sucked anyway. But it still was incredibly popular and even played without any mods it has a simplicity and charm that I think is rather appealing.

Having said that, Quake 3 appears to have been designed so that it would appeal to the pro gamers which was an emerging concept at the time and hence this "soul" as you call it may have been lost when designing the game. Similar complaints have been made about StarCraft II - that it's not as fun as the original because it was designed to accommodate pro gamers and e-sports, and so some of the soul of the original (which didn't have this aim at all) didn't transfer into the sequel.

Anyways, it's all good nostalgia. I still have all the Quake games and play them occasionally with newer engines as they are extremely quick to load, play and do things with (modern games have too many unskippable movies, animations in the menus to slow things down and waste time connecting to online services with pointless achievements). But maybe I'm a grumpy old man. :)

Porn, always the first to embrace new technology (-1, Flamebait)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700565)

It seems that with any new technology, porn always wants to be one of the first users.

This is a sign that Raspberry Pi will be a great success, if the Adults Only crowd is moving there!

Re:Porn, always the first to embrace new technolog (5, Funny)

deains (1726012) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700599)

Did you read anything except the headline? And I thought RTFA was a bad trend...

Re:Porn, always the first to embrace new technolog (4, Funny)

HornWumpus (783565) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700799)

I not only don't RTFA, I don't RTFS. I barely RTFH.

I'll be able to infer all that from the other posts.

Re:Porn, always the first to embrace new technolog (1)

sourcerror (1718066) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700603)

There's no porn in it, it's just regular Open Arena. The "adult" part is just due to gore.

well... there are the over stacked bots (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42700671)

When they fall, they have to fall through the floor... otherwise they would never hit their face.

Re:Porn, always the first to embrace new technolog (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42700715)

There's no porn in it, it's just regular Open Arena. The "adult" part is just due to gore.

Clearly you haven't found all the easter eggs yet!

Re:Porn, always the first to embrace new technolog (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42700753)

There's no sex in your violence?

Re:Porn, always the first to embrace new technolog (5, Funny)

oodaloop (1229816) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700625)

Reading is hard. Let's go shopping!

Re:Porn, always the first to embrace new technolog (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42701289)

I'm with you, I can't wait to meet the Easter bunny.

Re:Porn, always the first to embrace new technolog (5, Insightful)

cellocgw (617879) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700793)

Well that's the problem with these newfangled ratings. Everyone knows ripping bodies to shreds while spewing blood all over the walls is OK, but $deity forbid you should show a nipple. Unless it's a male nipple; that's fine.

Re:Porn, always the first to embrace new technolog (1)

Sarten-X (1102295) | about a year and a half ago | (#42701093)

Unless it's a male nipple; that's fine.

Unless the male nipples light up like runway lights [wikipedia.org] . That might not be fine.

Re:Porn, always the first to embrace new technolog (1)

Belial6 (794905) | about a year and a half ago | (#42704247)

To be fair, which is a more realistic concern... Your teenage son will start blowing people up with rocket launchers, or your teenage daughter will start publicly showing off her nipples? "I don't have a teen." is a cop out that acknowledges the point. Repeatability is a major factor.

Re:Porn, always the first to embrace new technolog (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42706041)

Yes, but one of those is way less harmful than the other, even if it is more realistic.

Oh for fuck sakes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42700597)

Is Jack Thompson on the dev team?

Quake III for adults only, give me a break.

GPL your levels! (4, Interesting)

tuppe666 (904118) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700805)

Openarena is an excellent project that has matured over years, and has been my own benchmark of how Linux has improved. I have played it small window on a sis, on a early x800 with missing features, through various i815, i915, G45, HD4000 and through to full speed on my HD4000 go integrated graphics.

I am not sure why anyone here object to it being labelled *Adult content* its blood; with bikini chicks http://images.wikia.com/openarena/images/b/bb/AngelyssDark.png [wikia.com] [or overly muscular gargoyles if you prefer] and unshakably is so and that is great. For others there is "world of padman" http://worldofpadman.net/website/ [worldofpadman.net] which has some beautiful content...if not the sex and violence.

Seriously though GPL your levels.

Re:GPL your levels! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42700999)

Linux is a kernel.

Re:GPL your levels! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42701161)

How do you know if he was not talking about the kernel?

Re:GPL your levels! (5, Interesting)

HEMI426 (715714) | about a year and a half ago | (#42702651)

OpenArena is fun and may be an excellent project to play, but the OpenArena people themselves are terrible to work with.

I used to maintain the FreeBSD port for OpenArena. Used to. Why used to? Cause they were the *worst* group of open-source software people I've ever dealt with. When another open-source OS asks you what it takes to get your app built and running, the correct answer is *not* "just download the Linux version and use that." Asking FreeBSD users to use the Linux binaries when there is source available is tantamount to telling Linux users to use the Windows version when there's source available.

I had done all the work necessary to update the OpenArena port to the latest version at the time, and then played "follow the patchlevels cause their dev practices suck" for several more versions. I edited their wiki, writing out directions for getting the game running from source on FreeBSD, which was pretty easy to do...Which they promptly deleted and said, "just use the Linux version."

When I was working on the port I asked them repeatedly what the build deps were and such...They didn't know. They generally just banged on it and installed stuff until OA built and ran. Never once did they actually document what it took to build the game. They were truly representative of the kids-table level of QA/RE that seems to be commonplace in the small-project OSS development community at large. How many times did they make a major release, followed quickly by several patches to fix minor oversights that resulted in major problems and could have been avoided with checklist of "what to check before we release?"

Here's a dirty little secret for ya: they talk about making source changes to the engine but none of them matter. The FreeBSD port---now maintained by someone else, thankfully---runs on the ioquake3 engine and just uses the OA pak files and the like.

In short, they may have some decent modelers/map-makers/artists working with them, but their software-dev guys are terrible to work with. I wouldn't use OA as a benchmark for anything.

Re:GPL your levels! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42705221)

In which time that happened? Because there was a huge dev "decantation" over the years, and the people which kept around is pretty cool, and we're still trying to clean up the mess some of the abandoning devs left when they left, and the current people in charge of the software part doesn't behave that way.

Re:GPL your levels! (1)

HEMI426 (715714) | about a year and a half ago | (#42706133)

I gave up maintainership of the port on 25 Nov 2010. Hopefully things have improved, cause they were running that project into the ground. I don't interact with the current port maintainer, so I can't say if things have improved or not from a "FreeBSD port maintainer point of view."

Re:GPL your levels! (1)

Time Doctor (79352) | about a year and a half ago | (#42719493)

I founded the ioquake3 project with some friends in 2005.

The experience of working with the OpenArena project was similar to that described by HEMI_426. At this point they have cut off communication with us and I would be surprised, but happy, if that relationship ever improves.

So, now we are attempting to create our own freely distributable, creative commons licensed, game to distribute whenever anyone downloads ioquake3 that won't be "adults only" and won't have anything to do with OpenArena's direction. Until it is ready there are plenty of great games made with the ioquake3 engine and you can check them out here:

http://ioquake3.org/extras/derivative-games/ [ioquake3.org]

Re:GPL your levels! (1)

Seumas (6865) | about a year and a half ago | (#42705521)

Because Adults Only is an ESRB rating applied to hardcore pornography in games; not games that contain mild nudity and violence.

Re:Oh for fuck sakes (1)

seeker_1us (1203072) | about a year and a half ago | (#42705811)

Jack Thompson wants an external agency which usually ends up with its own agenda (i.e. the government) to censor video games. The dev team is saying they want their work to be distributed to certain people.

If you can't understand the difference, you are as bad as Thompson is.

Why an ESRB rating? (1)

reub2000 (705806) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700705)

If they're just planning on offering this online, why would they bother getting the ESRB to rate this?

It's *NOT* an ESRB rating. Bad summary. (2)

gumpish (682245) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700943)

From the fine article:
"Because there is blood and guns, we’ve marked the download with an adult content sticker."

It's not the ESRB's AO rating.

I'd chastise the editor for failing to edit but at slashdot that would be a pretty empty gesture.

Re:It's *NOT* an ESRB rating. Bad summary. (1)

davester666 (731373) | about a year and a half ago | (#42702325)

I believe, given the sample size of Slashdot articles, and the pattern of poorly written titles and summaries, it is pretty clear that somebody sneaked a "not" into the job definition of Editor.

Re:It's *NOT* an ESRB rating. Bad summary. (1)

Seumas (6865) | about a year and a half ago | (#42705529)

I'd chastise the person who labeled the download as such. If you make a video and you rate it as "NA-17", then expect to have people make the assumption that your NA-17 denotes the same kind of content the MPAA's NA-17 does.

im not sure (1)

nimbius (983462) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700709)

blood really even makes much of a difference in arena games anymore. specular effects, sparkles, and explosions to me are far more fun than decorating the walls with blood, and im 30. warsaw and world of padman being my favourites.
call of madden/modern warfare franchises make use of it as a point of realism, so i like to think they get the point across: war is hell.

Re:im not sure (1)

i.r.id10t (595143) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700735)

I would always turn *everything* all the way up, enjoy the eye candy for a few minutes, and then turn it all back down to max my frame rate and start playing for real.

Re:im not sure (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year and a half ago | (#42701233)

GTA IV was a bit creeping. As the detail had reached a point where you could realistically shoot driver on the wheel, it made you actually feel a bit bad about some of Niko Bellic's actions. But I guess it adds to the atmosphere too. Very fun game, can't wait for V.

Breasts Galore (2)

dadelbunts (1727498) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700867)

I dont know if its still the same models, but i used to know a guy that was working on open arena. All he made was women with the most giant breasts, wearing the skimpiest outfits imaginable.

Re:Breasts Galore (4, Funny)

HornWumpus (783565) | about a year and a half ago | (#42701407)

Which is why we need faster computers. The lack of jiggle in computer game tits is no longer acceptable. Perhaps if we dedicated a couple of cores and a GPU pipe or 16 something could be done about this travesty.

Do we really need to spend as many computing resources on face rendering while tits languish, Rigid as a 80s stripper's fake monsters.

Believe it or not, many games don't even bother putting an articulated bone in the breast. That would be lame, but at least they would be trying. Also you could edit the motion files and make the tits bounce comically.

Re:Breasts Galore (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42703513)

Interesting that you should bring up jiggle, the wikia article on angelyss [wikia.com] has this to say on the subject:

"Her body is in lower.md3, weapon and head in upper.md3. Doing this allows for a consistent smooth appearance and more elaborate animation (breast bounce) though no dynamic turning of torso or head."

"adults only" (3, Funny)

nimbius (983462) | about a year and a half ago | (#42700903)

makes it sound like my chief opponent in the arena is an enormous breast or testicle stalking me through the halls with a railgun.

Re:"adults only" (2)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year and a half ago | (#42701253)

testicle stalking me

Half-Life got that covered [wikia.com] ...

Hence my low opinion of Gamers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42703875)

Art:
      Greek Nude Statues in Marble

Vulgar
    " enormous breast or testicle stalking me through the halls "

This is why we cannot have naked women on TV.

Re:Hence my low opinion of Gamers. (1)

Dasuraga (1147871) | about a year and a half ago | (#42705439)

intent is important you know

Re:"adults only" (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | about a year and a half ago | (#42705361)

You've been watching too much Flesh Gordon [wikipedia.org] .

not "Adults Only" ESRB (1)

locopuyo (1433631) | about a year and a half ago | (#42701115)

The summary is misleading.
"Because there is blood and guns, we’ve marked the download with an adult content sticker."
It isn't rated by the ESRB as AO. If it was rated by the ESRB it would be M.

Just needs boobies (1)

hduff (570443) | about a year and a half ago | (#42701323)

Then it can be rated PG. Boobs never hurt anybody.

Re:Just needs boobies (2)

isorox (205688) | about a year and a half ago | (#42703001)

Then it can be rated PG. Boobs never hurt anybody.

Ahh, Duke3D, there was a game. Too bad they never made a sequel.

Re:Just needs boobies (1)

sesshomaru (173381) | about a year and a half ago | (#42703503)

No, no, it's good that they never made a sequel. I'm from the alternate universe where they did. The angels weep for us.

Re:Just needs boobies (1)

EricTheMad (603880) | about a year and a half ago | (#42704483)

Boobs never hurt anybody.

This guy [local12.com] might disagree with you.

Adults only? (0)

strikethree (811449) | about a year and a half ago | (#42701357)

I thought that in America, blood and guns were just fine for consumption by children and that only sexual stuff was Adults Only... so I had images of Ranger running around firing dildos at enemies that looked like a vagina... which oddly, would fit into a misogynistic world view.

Re:Adults only? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42703205)

Well, spiderboobs and co. do provide a reasonably adult theme to the imagery in the game, just take a look at http://images.wikia.com/openarena/images/b/bb/AngelyssDark.png [wikia.com]

Why Raspberry Pi? (1)

Dunge (922521) | about a year and a half ago | (#42701921)

They created an open source modification of a game, which can be compiled for any architecture, not just one platform.

Re:Why Raspberry Pi? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42703437)

They created this an awfully long time ago, it has only just been ported, well, (io)q3 was already ported, so i guess that it's just that the port has only just been endorsed by the Raspi foundation.
The availability of OpenArena is not news, the endorsement/port for use on the pi is.

Well....... (1)

Hsien-Ko (1090623) | about a year and a half ago | (#42704137)

OA has always used the TIGRS system for its content and we always used the "Adults" rating for that since there was no more vague "Mature" term in that system.

Besides, the crappy drawn blood and ambiguously crappy gibs would be the least of anyone's concern. The female player design, maybe.... (prime example: the valkyrie-ish Angelyss has large bouncing breasts and wears a slingshot bikini design for armor as a satirical take on the 'ChainmailBikini' trope)

Also, the heavy texture switching in OA isn't kind to OpenGL ES (and the Pi). It's something I learned the hard way. A good benchmark is forcemodeling everyone to Kyonshi, timedemo and watch the results crawl, compared to a single texture player like Grism. I don't have any OpenGL ES devices, but I do have old 5th/6th generation computers which don't take as big of a hit. Rebooting the media project to be kind to OpenGL ES (atlases, single texture models, throwing shader stages into r_detailTextures options) is something i've been trying to do for a couple years by myself now.

Freetards and their Quake Clones... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42705265)

Freetards will continue to play Quake clones while the rest of the computing world (desktop) is enjoying things like LoL and Crisis. That's all Linux needed anyway, another fucking Quake clone...

Open Arena is not AO ... (1)

trdrstv (986999) | about a year and a half ago | (#42706765)

It's a fully customizable (since the code's been released) Quake 3 with user created skins. Sure there's lots of skimpy dressed / naked avatars, but play with some of the modest ones and there's no reason this wouldn't be M or T rated.

open arena = garbage (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42712823)

Open arena is pure crap and I always hated it. No one needs it no one wants a port of it. Openarena has become the five dollar crackwhore of open source gaming beating on the car window of every new system

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