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A Robot With a Chainsaw!

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the make-it-stop-make-it-stop dept.

Printer 101

mikejuk writes "If you are a fan of the Sci-Fi sub-genre of robot apocalypses, you may well not want to give a robot a chainsaw to wield. If, on the other hand, you are a creative artist, then it seems well worth the risk, as this video demonstrates. In this case the robot is a standard industrial arm with an electric chainsaw mounted where the gripper would normally go. Exactly what the robot is doing isn't obvious to the viewer, but once it is finished the whole thing is disassembled to reveal two wooden stools and some interesting shapes. A robot with a chainsaw is just a subtractive 3D printer."

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nihao bitches!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709109)

Let's face you: you better learn a fucking second language, and it'd better be Korean.

America's lost it, our day in the limelight has passed. Buy a Honda car-- oh, wait, you already did-- get a HTC television, and hold onto your iPhone tight, because the next one you buy'll be made by Samsung. It's inevitable, the future belongs to the land of the rising sun: porn cartoons, bullet trains, samurai, and all that shit. It's the future, man. I hope you're gonna be able to speak the language."

Re:nihao bitches!! (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709167)

Honda is Japanese. The same goes for Samurai. HTC is Taiwanese.

The porn cartoons, bullet trains, and "all that shit" is less specific, but Japan, the "land of the rising sun", is strongly implied. This is not a terribly strong argument to learn Korean.

Also, your post ends with an extraneous quotation mark.

Re:nihao bitches!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709249)

Seems obvious to me... In the future, the people of Japan and Taiwan will speak Korean.

Re:nihao bitches!! (4, Informative)

godrik (1287354) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709857)

without even mentionning that "nihao" is chinese...

Re:nihao bitches!! (1)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about a year and a half ago | (#42718225)

without even mentionning that "nihao" is chinese...

In the future, all languages will be Korean. Chinese becomes Korean-C.

Re:nihao bitches!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42713363)

It's a copy pasta. Dude.

Guten Tag ! - learn german (1)

burni2 (1643061) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709503)

"KUKA ist eine deutsche Firma"

O Hi O ;)

Re:Guten Tag ! - learn german (1)

chronokitsune3233 (2170390) | about a year and a half ago | (#42710491)

Allemande est trop difficile. Etudiez le français. (Je comprends un peu du français, mais je ne peux pas le parler bien.)

KUKA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42716591)

"KUKA ist eine deutsche Firma"

And talking about KUKA robots with a swede will make them giggle ... :)

A very slippery slope (2)

Nidi62 (1525137) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709141)

We are now one step closer to robot sharks with frickin laser beams on their heads.

Re:A very slippery slope (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709191)

You're a bit late [slashdot.org] to the party.

Although, technically, we have yet to attach a laser to a shark's head. As far as I am aware.

Re:A very slippery slope (1)

Nidi62 (1525137) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709221)

Yes, but the only thing scarier than a shark is a robot shark. Well, maybe a zombie shark, but lets hope we never have to deal with those.

Re:A very slippery slope (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709465)

ZOMB!

God is Dead" - Nietzsche
"Nietzsche is Dead" - God
"I'm alive!!!!" - Zombie Nietzsche
"Well played, Zombie Nietzsche." - God

Already exists (Re:A very slippery slope) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709217)

Already exists, e.g.: http://www.kuka-robotics.com/en/solutions/branches/aerospace/applications/B_Aviation_Laser_Welding.htm

with chainsaw hands (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709145)

I want to be an Adrienne Barbeaubot!

Re:with chainsaw hands (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42712125)

I want to be an Adrienne Barbeaubot!

It's only got one chainsaw hand, and I'm not seeing any “Jugs of Justice”. So, not a proper Barbeau-Bot.
Not impressed.

Subtractive 3D Printers don't harm people (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709181)

People harm people.... sometimes using subtractive 3D printers

Re:Subtractive 3D Printers don't harm people (1)

durrr (1316311) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709315)

Just tell them to make sure that the head mesh is attached to the rest before clicking submit.

Oh come on... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709193)

If are a fan of the Sci-Fi genre

Really...?

Re:Oh come on... (1)

Barryke (772876) | about a year and a half ago | (#42713889)

They must have forgotten that today Sci-Fi genre stands for "vampires and paranormal fiction". :'(

Re:Oh come on... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42714881)

You're confusing Sci-Fi with Sy Fy. Most nerds, when we think of sci-fi, think BOOKS, not B movies. That's not to say that there havent been many excellent sci-fi movies; I have shelves full. But you'll seldom if ever see them on Sy Fy.

I think the reason they changed the network's name was because they realized that very little of what they showed was sci-fi.

CNC machine (5, Insightful)

stenvar (2789879) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709207)

A "subtractive 3D printer" is usually called a "CNC machine".

Re:CNC machine (3, Interesting)

ron_ivi (607351) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709245)

"Subtractive 3D printer" is a better term, though.

CNC == Computer Numerical Control

CNC would be a better acronym for a calculator.

Re:CNC machine (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709295)

Perhaps, but if you actually want to buy one, it's better to use the term everybody else uses...

Re:CNC machine (-1, Flamebait)

HornWumpus (783565) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709785)

CNC == Continuous numerical control. As opposed to NC machines which are simply numerical control. Both are computer controlled.

Sucks being both a pendant and wrong. Must sting.

Re:CNC machine (3, Informative)

radish (98371) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709941)

Not according to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] , or this site [thefreedictionary.com] or this one [shopbottools.com] or this one [technologystudent.com] . You get the idea - I can't really find anything defining CNC as anything other than Computer Numerical Control(led).

Sucks being both a pendant and wrong. Must sting.

Yes, must.

Re:CNC machine (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42722097)

Not according to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] , or this site [thefreedictionary.com] or this one [shopbottools.com] or this one [technologystudent.com] . You get the idea - I can't really find anything defining CNC as anything other than Computer Numerical Control(led).

Sucks being both a pendant and wrong. Must sting.

Yes, must.

He meant to call you a pedant, actually.

Re:CNC machine (4, Funny)

jimshatt (1002452) | about a year and a half ago | (#42710269)

The word is 'pedant' ;-)

Re:CNC machine (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42710841)

CNC == Continuous numerical control. As opposed to NC machines which are simply numerical control. Both are computer controlled.

Try "Computer Numerical(ly) Controlled". [all-acronyms.com]

Re:CNC machine (3, Funny)

RespekMyAthorati (798091) | about a year and a half ago | (#42711725)

Sucks to be a pedant who can't spell. Must sting.

Re:CNC machine (2)

Smerta (1855348) | about a year and a half ago | (#42712451)

Oh dear. It looks as though Muphry's Law [wikipedia.org] strikes again!

Re:CNC machine (3, Insightful)

mr_mischief (456295) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709291)

A CNC machine already exists and doesn't look like part of a human. Slashdot loves new things, robots, things that cut, things that are overly powerful, and things that seem dangerous. Honestly, a CNC milling, cutting, and routing machine could often use something like a chainsaw in its initial steps to speed things up. This guy might have inspired something useful.

tl;dr : CNC is useful, but a robot with a chainsaw is fucking cool

Re:CNC machine (1)

Hentes (2461350) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709397)

Right, and the problem wasn't with that, but with the terminology. Cutting up something into parts is not substraction, because you can cut out several objects from one piece of wood, thus there's much less waste.

Re:CNC machine (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709559)

no, still called subtraction because waste is involved. subtraction is when the sum of the volume of the final parts is less than the volume of the initial material, i.e. the waste is what is subtracted.

Re:CNC machine (1)

HiThere (15173) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709571)

More specifically, a CNC machine normally doesn't have any intelligence, so it's not a robot, any more than a telefactor is. And telefactors often have MORE internal intelligence than CNC machines. They need to avoid causing harm by accident to either themselves or others. CNC machines often just operate out of ROM, with essentially no state. (Well, they do have a tiny bit of state, but not much. And this one might not need any.)

I really despise the way the term "robot" is being abused for anything mechanical. A robot car is reasonable for a self-driving, or even self-parking car. But applying it to a remote controlled arm is like calling a car with power steering a robot. And the fact that the actions are pre-programmed doesn't improve things. Not unless you want to call a thermostatically controlled heater a robot.

Re:CNC machine (1)

camperdave (969942) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709663)

I believe that it isn't technically a robot unless the end effector has at least three degrees of freedom.

Re:CNC machine (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715961)

CNC mills, especially types with 5 axes, have EXTREMELY complicated feedback and drive system with zillion compensation parameters. So, their "intelligence" is 10..100x higher than any industrial robot will ever need.
So dont generalize home-made-table-CNC with parallel port PC control :)

Re:CNC machine (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709425)

Not really.

Any industrial machine that uses a computer to provide automation is CNC, as long as the automation isn't provided by a cam or other mechanical means.

What this is called is a cnc mill. It's an automated cutting surface.

"subtractive printer"? What the fuck? When is HP coming out with that? At least a full page porrtait would, in theory, save me paper.

Re:CNC machine (2)

Ol Biscuitbarrel (1859702) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709485)

You should get a load of my "additive eraser."

Re:CNC machine (1)

julesh (229690) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709515)

You should get a load of my "additive eraser."

do you mean a pencil, perchance?

Re:CNC machine (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709635)

You should get a load of my "additive eraser."

do you mean a pencil, perchance?

I think he means Tippex or Liquid Paper.

Re:CNC machine (1)

camperdave (969942) | about a year and a half ago | (#42710619)

You should get a load of my "additive eraser."

do you mean a pencil, perchance?

I think he means that bottle of whiteout taped to his left hand.

Re:CNC machine (1)

HornWumpus (783565) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709855)

CNC is continuous numeric control. So most modern computer controlled machines are CNC. The computer monitors and controls both speed and position and is doing a fairly sophisticated job.

NC is numeric control. Examples are stepper motor motivated machines. The computer just tells the machine to move 1000 steps.

To use a computer analogy (that most of you won't remember) stepper motor hard drives vs voice coil. The voice coil drives head control is CNC, stepper motor drives head control is NC. You know the drive is only NC when it slams into the stop to find track 0. It was just keeping count of what track it was on and got confused.

Re:CNC machine (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42711407)

You're making that up. CNC and NC are both synonyms and both acronyms for [Computer] Numeric Control. Your stepper motor example still has a computer controlling it.

Re:CNC machine (2)

WrecklessSandwich (1000139) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709809)

To be more precise, it's a CNC mill.

Re:CNC machine (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42712219)

Only if it's a mill. It might be a laser cutter or some other CNC variant.

next on the list (3, Insightful)

pswPhD (1528411) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709231)

Now all they need is to collect all the sawdust, add some resin and make an additive 3D printer!

Good machine, poor software (5, Interesting)

Animats (122034) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709299)

He has a 5-axis robot with a cutting tool. That's enough to do real sculpture. Just grinding out a three-legged table with straight cuts is far less than the machine could do. This suggests the software being used isn't a real 5-axis CNC package. He needs HyperMill. [youtube.com] Take a look of what that can do with a 5-axis mill.

Re:Good machine, poor software (1)

cynyr (703126) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709539)

right, he could have at least made a look-alike of one of those pedestals with the reflective metal balls on it that you see in peoples gardens.

Re:Good machine, poor software (1)

RivenAleem (1590553) | about a year and a half ago | (#42716209)

Okay, so I get 3-axis (x, y, z) what are the other 2 axis for? Will it make a Mobius loop?

Re:Good machine, poor software (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42716755)

You need more than three degrees of freedom to be able to insert the tool from different angles. A CNC-tool that only moves in the X-, Y- and Z-directions is severely limited in what it can produce.

Re:Good machine, poor software (1)

HybridST (894157) | about a year and a half ago | (#42716925)

I want one which can manipulate the T-dimension.

Re:Good machine, poor software (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42718995)

The other 2 are rotational about one of the main 3. They are typically called A, B, and C. So the A axis rotates around X, B around Y, C around Z. The most common is the A axis, since the X axis is typically defined as the axis of longest travel. Naming all the axies (axes? axii? dunno) gets complicated with machines like the Mazak Integrex. The control looks like something from a freaking nuclear reactor.

I for one... (3, Funny)

Kotoku (1531373) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709301)

...welcome our new hedge pruning, tree trimming, log cutting, Edward Chainsaw-hands overlords.

Re:I for one... (1)

PerMolestiasEruditio (1118269) | about a year and a half ago | (#42710251)

... run away from our new hedge pruning, tree trimming, log cutting, Edward Chainsaw-hands overlords.

Re:I for one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42710883)

Makes a good security guard. Wanna poke around and argue?

Re:I for one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42712259)

It's preparing for the inevitable robot zombie apocalypse.

Bad chainsaw technique (2)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709371)

With a robot I suppose it doesn't matter, unless there are humans nearby; but going into a piece of wood nose first with a chainsaw is asking for trouble if you're a human. It's a good way to get a face-full of chainsaw (or foot-full, depending on the orientation).

Re:Bad chainsaw technique (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709603)

Kickback is an issue because a human holding a chainsaw cannot compensate for the sudden unexpected movement of the saw. I wouldn't expect this to be an issue with the superior grip of our robot overlords.

Re:Bad chainsaw technique (1)

chienandalou (2637845) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709675)

Yep. I was going to ask for a chainsaw robot army, but not these.

Re:Bad chainsaw technique (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709911)

This thing is a lot stronger than a human. You can do a lot more with a chainsaw if you're strong enough to wield it with precision, rather than letting the blade kick around like a human has to.

Re:Bad chainsaw technique (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#42710121)

Well John Henry says to his captain,
A man ain't nothin' but a man,
But before I get beat by this old piece of steel
I'll die with a chainsaw in my hand
Die with a chainsaw in my hand.

Re:Bad chainsaw technique (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42711633)

Chainsaw art is done almost exclusively with the nose of the saw.

They do just nuzzle at the wood, though, picking and chipping away piece by piece, not just shove it straight in.

AC

Re:Bad chainsaw technique (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42716795)

You can do it safely if you know what you are doing and have the teeth on the chain grinded in the right angle. You don't want to do it with a chain filed to do ordinary tree felling though.

There are lots of people doing artwork with chainsaws, and it's common procedure.

Already Obsolete (1)

Guppy (12314) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709455)

Yes, yes, the chainsaw is impressive in a crude sort of way. But everyone knows the finest Killbots must be equipped with a machine gun. And Lotus Notes.

Re:Already Obsolete (1)

Greyfox (87712) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709605)

Noooooo! Not Lotus Notes! It's too horrible! Even a soulless robot would feel bad about subjecting anyone to Lotus Notes!

Re:Already Obsolete (1)

ericloewe (2129490) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709923)

Since they'll need a screen to horrify people with Lotus Notes, I suggest a hypothetical finest Killbot be equipped with either Microsoft Bob or Clippy.

"I see you're about to be killed by a robot. Do you want to read about Asimov's Laws of Robotics?"

"...a subtractive 3D printer..." (1)

John Hasler (414242) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709469)

Or a really, really crude milling machine.

This is great! (1)

mmmmbeer (107215) | about a year and a half ago | (#42709687)

Now after I defeat this robot, I will gain the Robot Chainsaw power.

Hey baby, do you want to kill all humans? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709723)

We should hang out.

-Bender

Frost P1st (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42709769)

Guests. some people

Visionary Writer (1)

jasnw (1913892) | about a year and a half ago | (#42710155)

WIlliam Gibson had a chainsaw-wielding robot in "Mona Lisa Overdrive" and another one with an acetylene torch stinger in its tail. Some radical iron-mongery.

Re:Visionary Writer (1)

tlambert (566799) | about a year and a half ago | (#42711901)

I think you are looking for chapter 2:

"Kid Afrika came cruising into Dog Solitude on the last day in November, his vintage Dodge chauffeured by a white girl named Cherry Chesterfield.
Slick Henry and Little Bird were breaking down the buzzsaw that formed the Judge's left hand when Kid's Dodge came into view, its patched apron bag throwing up brown fantails of the rusty water that pooled on the Solitude's uneven plain of compacted steel."

Re:Visionary Writer (1)

Genda (560240) | about a year and a half ago | (#42712133)

See children, this is what happens when you mix stock car racing, LSD and Red Bull... a warning to the wise!

Re:Visionary Writer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42716247)

It was a circular saw rather than a chain saw, but it made me think of the terminator in T3 cutting the hearse roof, and the particle accelerator it was stuck to.

Say what? (1)

bmo (77928) | about a year and a half ago | (#42710265)

"A robot with a chainsaw is just a subtractive 3D printer."

So every machine tool is a subtractive 3D printer? "Removing everything that isn't Apollo" from the block of marble is "subtractive 3D printing?"

Good to know that we've been "subtractive 3D printing" since the paleolithic era.

--
BMO

Re:Kitty Say what? (1)

TheRealHocusLocus (2319802) | about a year and a half ago | (#42711277)

"A robot with a chainsaw is just a subtractive 3D printer."

A robot with Gatling Gun arms is just a subtractive swiss cheese maker.

A robot with a nailgun is just a tacky solution to a loosely defined problem.

A robot with breasts is just a publicity stunt.

Re:Kitty Say what? (1)

Genda (560240) | about a year and a half ago | (#42712111)

A robot with breasts is just a publicity stunt.

And I thought it was Nicki Manaj... oh, I guess we're both right!

"Robots Are Our Friends" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42710481)

"Sometimes they like to maim and kill...."

Credit: Albinoblacksheep.com

That was a monster in The Cabin in the Woods. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42710647)

Pretty sure that was a monster in The Cabin in the Woods.

Robot with a chainsaw! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42711353)

The sequel to Hobo with a shotgun.
Robot with a chainsaw!

Re:Robot with a chainsaw! (1)

colfer (619105) | about a year and a half ago | (#42711451)

Unfortunately it's much worse, surgeon with a fetish: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1959332/ [imdb.com]

Johnny Von Scissorhands (1)

postagoras (129170) | about a year and a half ago | (#42711495)

Can it carve another robot with a chainsaw?

Sandy's Revenge (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about a year and a half ago | (#42711663)

Put something like these in schools to protect from crazed shooters. Or simplify them to be like the flat battle-bots with spikes and blades. Such might not outright stop the shooter, but with a pair nipping at the feet of a shooter or two, it would greatly slow them down. Include a mace cannon.

Chainsaws are cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42711683)

Chainsaw Maid [youtube.com]

So uh, this is how... (1)

Genda (560240) | about a year and a half ago | (#42711985)

Ikea builds the terminator??? Ya, dis is a lovely little table and set of bar stoowels... RUN!!!!

No Saw Required (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42712145)

Many industrial robots have arm speeds that are more than adequate to send a human head flying about in chunks. A three hundred pound arm with a tip speed about equal to a golf clubs top speed will do one heck of a number on anything that gets in its way. Safety mats with pneumatic sensors help keep plant engineers alive but shutting down robots if they are approached. You only get one mistake around these critters.

Wrongo! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42712389)

Definitely not a robot with a chainsaw.
It's a chainsaw with a robot.

subtractive 3D printer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42712997)

subtractive 3D printer is called a CNC machine

Nice slogan (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42713789)

"A robot with a chainsaw is just a subtractive 3D printer"

I should have that on a t-shirt.

Killing him softly with his saw (1)

Avishay Orpaz (2826375) | about a year and a half ago | (#42714203)

Simpsons [amiright.com] of course.

Just a milling machine. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42714329)

Only with a chain saw instead of a metal cutter.

But does it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42714353)

...get power from Lollipops? Juliet Starling FTW!

We need to train robots to use chainsaws... (1)

Jason Levine (196982) | about a year and a half ago | (#42714551)

... so that they can fight against the zombie apocalypse. And when the robots try to take over, we'll enlist the aid of Lizard-like aliens to crush them. I know what you're thinking: But what about when the Lizard-aliens take over? That's the best part of the plan. When winter rolls around, the Lizard-aliens will just freeze to death. Problem solved.

Final product could be more finished (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42714939)

The process here needs to add two more robots down the line. Needs a sanding robot and a urethane clearcoat finish spraying bot. Then at least that way you could have a wooden stool that could be used without getting slivers in your ass.

With all the technology... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42716703)

...why is it a gas powered chainsaw?

Subtractive 3D printer? (1)

Sheik Yerbouti (96423) | about a year and a half ago | (#42716817)

A subtractive 3D printer is called a 5 axis machining center they exist and are used in manufacturing every day all around the world... geez!

See here for a demonstration http://youtu.be/RnIvhlKT7SY

build a better robot. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42717513)

I want a robot with a laser guided bee canon!

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