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Iran Says It Sent Monkey Into Space and Back

samzenpus posted about a year and a half ago | from the space-monkey dept.

Space 425

Iranian state TV is claiming that the country has successfully sent a monkey into space and back, bringing Iran one step closer to its goal of a manned space flight. According to the report, the rocket named Pishgam, or Pioneer in Farsi, reached a height of 120km. From the article: "Iran has long said it seeks to send an astronaut into space as part of its ambitious aerospace program, including plans for a new space center announced last year. In 2010, Iran said it launched an Explorer rocket into space carrying a mouse, a turtle and worms."

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425 comments

Was it President Ahmadinejad? (5, Funny)

peter303 (12292) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715271)

Sometimes his policy explanations are as believable as a monkey's.

and apparently... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715273)

Ahmadinejad made it all the way back safely

Re:and apparently... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715773)

seems he got a little bit crazy though.

Re:and apparently... (1, Funny)

cayenne8 (626475) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715851)

Damn.

Once they launched Ahmadinejad, why couldn't they have left him up there?? Talk about a popular candidate for space debris....

Pigs in space! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715279)

Did any local agencies confirm the launch?

Re:Pigs in space! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715359)

I am with this..

the only thing that the Iranian government are experts in is lying.

Re:Pigs in space! (2)

ByOhTek (1181381) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715565)

To be experts, you have to be convincing.

Iran usually isn't.

Re:Pigs in space! (0, Troll)

Forty Two Tenfold (1134125) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715575)

In other news the USA still claim to have sent a man to the moon.

Re:Pigs in space! (1)

Jeng (926980) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715645)

Why shouldn't they? The evidence has been corroborated by even our enemies at the time. And since then there has also been independent confirmation that we left crap on the moon which is consistent with us landing on the moon.

Re:Pigs in space! (4, Interesting)

filthpickle (1199927) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715841)

While I am sure the parent was kidding...I have a friend who is only moderately stupid that firmly believes that the moon landings were faked. I found this a couple weeks ago, an interesting point of view.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU

We would have faked it...but actually doing it was easier at the time.

From a US citizen (4, Insightful)

funky49 (182835) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715283)

Congrats Iran!

Re:From a US citizen (4, Funny)

binarylarry (1338699) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715419)

As an American, let me be the first to welcome Iran to 1948!

Re:From a US citizen (0)

Forty Two Tenfold (1134125) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715561)

Not 1953? Meddling and destruction is way more "American" than technological progress. Iran didn't have Nazi scientists to help them.

Re:From a US citizen (1)

binarylarry (1338699) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715725)

umad bro

Re:From a US citizen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715815)

A tool for war was turned into a tool for peace; what better way for a war criminal to pay for his crimes? Would you rather they were executed? Or imprisoned? What use would that be?

Re:From a US citizen (1)

flimflammer (956759) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715883)

Are you seriously attempting to suggest that something bad cannot be used for a good purpose?

Uh oh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715293)

Can't wait for the mouse/turtle/mutant hybrids to start raining from the skies.

Launching monkeys (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715297)

So they sent Ahmadinejad into space? And brought him back?

Bad judgement on their part; they should have left him there. It's why they're a third-rate country, and always will be.

they sent a monkey into space... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715303)

i hope george w bush is okay

A monkey, huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715307)

How original.

Re:A monkey, huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715415)

Ham in a can. In the words of Howard Cosell, Look at that little monkey go!

Dear Iran. . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715355)

OMG, that is soooo 1960's!

WHAT do THEY WANT?!! (5, Funny)

Thud457 (234763) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715847)

Super-intelligent monkey manipulates another nation-state into providing it with a free joyride into space.

What ? What ? What ? (3, Funny)

TractorBarry (788340) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715357)

Firing defenceless animals off into space for their twisted pleasure ?

BOMB THE BASTARDS.

Re:What ? What ? What ? (1)

cigawoot (1242378) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715661)

We did the same thing...

Re:What ? What ? What ? (1)

crazyjj (2598719) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715709)

Are you kidding? That monkey just became a lot more famous than any of us are ever going to be. He's probably going to get laid a lot more than any of us too. Shit, put ME in the next rocket, Iran!

Re:What ? What ? What ? (2)

penix1 (722987) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715803)

Nowhere in TFA does it say the monkey survived. For all we know it came back as chunky salsa...

Re:What ? What ? What ? (2)

crazyjj (2598719) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715889)

FTFA:

said the monkey returned safely.

I presume that means "alive," unless Iran has a very different take on the word "safely."

Re:What ? What ? What ? (1)

NeverVotedBush (1041088) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715827)

And what was that famous monkey's name? ;-)

Stone age society develops space age technology (4, Funny)

Rogerborg (306625) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715363)

Sounds like some sort of Flintstones / Jetsons crossover.

Re:Stone age society develops space age technology (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715429)

Bigot.

Re:Stone age society develops space age technology (3, Informative)

agoliveira (188870) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715435)

Depends on what you call "stone age society". They indeed have a lot to grow regarding individual freedom and rights (but, hey, so does USA currently) but they have lots of money, a great schools and universities, weath is well distributed and very low crime rate.

Re:Stone age society develops space age technology (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715615)

>but they have lots of money, a great schools and universities, weath is well distributed and very low crime rate

If they have lots of money and it's well distributed, then it seems the people must just choose to live a lower standard of life than others, since the video that comes from Iran doesn't show me the sorts of things I'd expect from people who are rich (Lots of money + will distributed = everyone is generally rich).

As for great schools, perhaps they are, as long as you exclude science, philosophy, art, history, perhaps geography. Since they're state run (and the state bends the curriculum as they see fit), they are chock full of religion (which takes over the science, philosophy, and art departments) and since their government expresses blind hatred against other countries, I can only assume history and geography classes are equally skewed.

As for a low crime rate, isn't this the country that had hundreds of thousands of illegal protesters the other year? That's a HELL of a high crime rate, if you ask me!

Re:Stone age society develops space age technology (3, Insightful)

ag0ny (59629) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715811)

As for great schools, perhaps they are, as long as you exclude science, philosophy, art, history, perhaps geography. Since they're state run (and the state bends the curriculum as they see fit), they are chock full of religion (which takes over the science, philosophy, and art departments) and since their government expresses blind hatred against other countries, I can only assume history and geography classes are equally skewed.

And that's different from the U.S. how?

Re:Stone age society develops space age technology (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715637)

weath is well distributed and very low crime rate.

Well, that's good news indeed. I didn't even know it could grow there.

Re:Stone age society develops space age technology (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715641)

But...being racist is apparently so much more fun!
*sulk*

Re:Stone age society develops space age technology (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715445)

They're not stone age, they're modern. They're Persia, and have been a world power for thousands of years. Iran isn't Iraq.

Re:Stone age society develops space age technology (1)

Nossie (753694) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715823)

After the revolution when Iran stopped being Persia they quickly went back to a 2nd world country. Much more of this and even NK might take over tech wise.

Re:Stone age society develops space age technology (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715529)

At least now we know where that Ikea monkey came from.

In other news... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715379)

Iran also said it has a girlfriend, but she lives in Canada.

Re:In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715469)

What a coincidence, so do I!

I bet they know each other. Canada is a rather small place, isn't it?

PUT AN AYATOLLA ASSAHOLLA IN SPACE !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715385)

Then it can brag all it wants !!

And Siemens, quite selling contraband to it !!

Calling bullshit on this one (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715397)

Where did it land? Iran? No way. They would have to target the ocean and their navy is well monitored, blockaded and (honestly) fairly weak.

Re:Calling bullshit on this one (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715801)

Iran has 1980s Soviet-era technology as well as 1970s US technology. That makes for an interesting mix of hardware [wikipedia.org] , like F-14 planes with Russian tanks. Iran even bought hardware from North Korea. It wouldn't be difficult to imagine that they're within 15 years of state of the art and have the benefit of taking shortcuts to bring them closer in some areas. Remember, even the Space Shuttle dates to 1981 [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Calling bullshit on this one (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715863)

It is possible to land a spacecraft on the ground. The US used ocean splash-downs because we had the naval power to spare. And since no one really knew if the math was good or if overlooked details would have foreseen effects aiming for the ocean seemed prudent (you pretty much can't miss the ocean) compared with the possibility of the damn thing coming down on someone's RV.

They risked a valuable Monkey? (5, Funny)

Bocaj (84920) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715401)

I'm surprised they didn't start with some something more disposable, like a woman. I'm sorry, but it just shocks me that a society can make this kind of technological achievement and still treat some humans as second class citizens.

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715437)

Strapping a monkey to an ICBM hardly counts as a technological achievement.

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (1)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715463)

But bringing it back alive does...

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (2)

HungWeiLo (250320) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715455)

Despite all that's wrong with Iran, they have a very decent education system - that is even accessible for women, as I was told.

When I was at the University of Washington, there were quite a number of good researchers, lecturers, and post-grads I encountered in engineering and chemistry (both male and female) were educated in Iran.

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715457)

Ouch, harsh man, harsh...wait, actually i totally agree.

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (5, Insightful)

pr0t0 (216378) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715465)

You mean like when the United States sent Alan Shepard into space in 1961, but didn't pass the civil rights act until 1964? And it's not like the CRA ended racial discrimination.

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (1)

Bocaj (84920) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715481)

Yep, that's what I mean.

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (0)

Bill_the_Engineer (772575) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715523)

You mean like when the United States sent Alan Shepard into space in 1961, but didn't pass the civil rights act until 1964?

I'm curious. How is Alan Shepard related to the civl rights act?

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715605)

In the same way that sending a monkey into space has anything to do with women's rights in Iran. None at all.

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715683)

Doesn't that depend on whether or not the money was a woman, and whether or not the monkey had a choice?

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (1)

jkflying (2190798) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715629)

What does Iran's sexual discrimination have to do with their space program?

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (1)

Bocaj (84920) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715789)

What does Iran's sexual discrimination have to do with their space program?

Because jkflying, it's been generally accepted for some time now that education lessens crime and discrimination among other things. Iran's current treatment of women would appear to contradict that.

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715471)

erm... because the States were the height of egaltarianism during the Apollo missions.

I'm sure some were surprised you weren't sending black people up there.

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715479)

Thank god the US didn't treat anyone as second class citizens when we accomplished this feat in 1961.

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715509)

Woman in Iran are not treated that badly. Really, they are not talibans and they do respects woman. They even elected a woman minister.. Sure they are not up to par to western society and surely their supreme leader is a zealous religions freak, but this is not taliban.

Iran despise western civilisation not woman. : )

Women's rights (2)

schneidafunk (795759) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715621)

Are you sure they aren't treated badly [avaaz.org] ?

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (1)

kdemetter (965669) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715723)

I just realized that most of what I know comes from tv,radio and the internet.
Very little comes from actually being somewhere and witnessing something with my own eyes.

I need to get out and found out things for myself.

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715617)

For the sake of my poor, overloaded irony-meter, I really hope you're not posting from the USA.

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715691)

I thought they sent their president Ahmadinutjob into space and brought him back alive

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715763)

I thought they sent their president Ahmadinutjob into space and brought him back alive

Even the Iranians aren't that stupid.

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715797)

Why would you think technology would magically solve social problems?

Re:They risked a valuable Monkey? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715821)

I believe women traveling alone is a frowned upon practice

A mouse, a turtle, and some worms (1)

Esion Modnar (632431) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715425)

Go into a bar, I mean, an Iranian space capsule. The mouse says... Come on, help me out here.

Re:A mouse, a turtle, and some worms (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715573)

Why the long face?

Re:A mouse, a turtle, and some worms (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715671)

==REDACTED==

Re:A mouse, a turtle, and some worms (1)

SleazyRidr (1563649) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715719)

The bartender (mission control maybe) says "what is this, a joke?"

'Into space' (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715433)

Reaching an altitude of 120km is much, much easier than orbiting at 120km.

By a ridiculous factor.
One you can achieve with a really large single stage sugar/fertiliser rocket.

The other requires multi-stage, or really advanced single stage with good design and control.

It's sort of like saying making a childs toy cart is relevant to making a formulae one car.

Re:'Into space' (3, Interesting)

kj_in_ottawa (838840) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715577)

Correct, an orbit is a lot harder than just achieving an altitude.

I do however, disagree with you about the conclusion you are trying to prove with your analogy.

If you have never built any sort of a vehicle before, evolving from the toy stage through many many many steps to a formula 1 car may actually be a logical process, and therefore is relevant.

Likewise, a progression from earthbound to an orbiting space station and beyond, may include a developmental step of placing a monkey in a missile.

Cheers
Kenny

Re:'Into space' (1)

patch5 (1990504) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715625)

Keeping a really large single stage sugar/fertilizer rocket from blowing up on the launch pad and taking out your monkey is a lot tougher than it sounds.

Re:'Into space' (2)

Blaskowicz (634489) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715649)

Yes, the difference in energy required to reach orbit is enormous.. Though I don't think you can quite orbit at 120km, there must be terrible atmospheric drag there.

What's notable is that all the talks about space tourism in the US : they're mostly about achieving that same kind of suborbital roller-coaster that breaks an arbitrary 100km threshold. Making it cheap is probably the interesting part, I wonder if the Iranian version of this was cheap (taking your time to build a boring old rocket domestically), or expensive (throw money at the problem to build that boring old rocket instead of trying e.g. a cheap space plane thing).

What I happen to think sadly is such rollercoaster trips for millionnaires are pointless and a waste of resources! Color me uninterested. Unless you do useful things (probing the high atmosphere, have a quick look at cosmic rays related stuff etc.)

Its probably not true (4, Insightful)

Chrisq (894406) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715459)

Its probably just to cover the news that their nuclear weapon research bunker [telegraph.co.uk] was blown up.Don't look here, watch the monkey!

Re:Its probably not true (3, Insightful)

Jeng (926980) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715853)

Oddly enough the story you are linking to says that that story may also be a fake.

Perhaps the Iranians just feel really insecure and want to make people believe they are more of a threat than they are?

Congrats! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715473)

Great job, Iran! Now your space program has reached the level of the US space program circa 1949.

[citation needed] (2)

Henriok (6762) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715491)

Isn't this something that would be easily confirmed by the nations watching Iran's rising power? Or is it confirmed already? Iran is famous for its photoshopping skills and their knack for skewing propaganda in their favor. On the other hand, they do have the technology to do this. At least in theory.

When... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715493)

... did Mahmoud Ahmadinejad find the time for space travel?

Re:When... (1)

ByOhTek (1181381) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715673)

Find the time? It provided him with a way to avoid distractions while coming up with new absurd/asinine things to say on the international stage!

Given recent history (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715507)

Clearly photoshopped.

Funny (1)

benjfowler (239527) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715539)

That a culture that can manage to put a satellite into space, thinks that

1) if they put a rocket in space, then everyone will start liking and respecting them; and
2) that if nobody likes or respects them, it's not their fault, but everyone else's.

Look at us! We're not a backwards Third World basketcase! Honest! Really!! Can we be friends now? :-p

Re:Funny (2)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715667)

A space program on the international stage isn't about getting people to like you. It's about getting people to fear you. You're basically showing the world that you have the infrastructure, cohesion, and technology to pull of a milestone feat for a nation. And it also implies that you can drop a nuke on any point on the globe.

Re:Funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715689)

More like they saw what happened to another country branded "axis of evil", and decided that the only way to avoid the same fate is to have nuclear weapons and ICBMs. Seems to have worked so far. See also: North Korea.

Re:Funny (2)

benjfowler (239527) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715831)

That stops working the millisecond a mushroom cloud appears over Iran.

North Korea has a powerful friend (China). Iran burnt all their bridges, and thus has very few friends at all.

Having powerful backers is more important than possessing a weapon too powerful to use.

Maybe it's true... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715547)

After all, we haven't heard from old Mahmoud lately. Maybe he went on a trip.

Most important detail missing (1)

BForrester (946915) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715611)

The article mentions that the monkey went into space and back, but we all want to know whether Ahmadinejad survived or not.

Re:Most important detail missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715765)

It's funny because non-whites are monkeys!

Re:Most important detail missing (1)

benjfowler (239527) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715859)

Who said anything about whiteness? Anyway, there are plenty of violent, religious (and white!!) idiots in the world much worse than your average Iranian.

What an achievement! (0)

ericloewe (2129490) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715663)

I hope Ahmadinejad enjoyed his trip.

Before or After? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715687)

The pic on the referenced page shows the monkey, but not whether it's a pre-flight or post-flight picture...probably preflight... ;-(

Somebody needs to tell Iran (1)

Dishwasha (125561) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715727)

that launching a rocket via the Kerbal Space Program [kerbalspaceprogram.com] doesn't really count.

Already done (1)

hawguy (1600213) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715741)

Didn't a beverage company just send [wikipedia.org] a monkey to space and back?

Member's Only (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715757)

Did he wear his Member's Only jacket into space? and who will now lead Iran?

NASA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715767)

What ever it takes to raise NASA's budget. Aligning the US Defense interest with space exploration could be a huge step to solving a few problems with this country. The shift in demand vis-a-vis USGov spending could be beneficial.

No oil in space: renewable energy investment
Investment in STEM
The dream: inspiring interest in science/tech
Just to name a few...

Monkey? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42715785)

So, they sent Ahmajinedad into space? And they let him come back?

Pavlov (1)

sa666u (2626427) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715795)

It's very interesting to observe the Pavlovian response of the American audience. Once ideology gets involved, all rationality goes out the window. I find it fascinating that a country ruled by religious elites, under heavy embargo, with networks under constant attack and scientist with bounties on their heads is able to develop a space program.

Dr. Sadeq Khurasani said it (1)

lysdexia (897) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715837)

I believe it.
That settles it.

I guess the propaganda is working. (4, Insightful)

trout007 (975317) | about a year and a half ago | (#42715875)

From all of these anti-Iranian comments I guess the US propaganda is working well. Pretty soon you all we clamor for war and sign up to fight. It's amazing how people can hate those they never met.

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