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Yes, PlayBook Does Get BlackBerry 10 Update

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the seriously-how-is-blackberry-compelling-nowadays? dept.

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judgecorp writes "Yesterday's BlackBerry 10 announcement did not mention the company's tablet, the Playbook, but users will be relieved to know it will get an update to BlackBerry 10. It's not a huge surprise, since BB10 is based on the PlayBook's QNX operating system, but PlayBook users may have been worried since the company did not even mention the struggling tablet in passing at the event." Hopefully the Playbook's camera is better than the one in the new BB10-based Z10 phone, the low-light performance of which Gizmodo describes as "four-years-ago crap."

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Yay!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751161)

All 5 users are ecstatic!!!

Re:Yay!! (0)

tripleevenfall (1990004) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751321)

I think all 5 Playbook users are probably "meh" just like the rest of the world.

Re:Yay!! (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751483)

No, trust me, I know 3 of those 5 users ... and they'll all be interested in hearing this.

Re:Yay!! (1)

0123456 (636235) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751579)

And I know the other three. I've actually been quite impressed by the Playbook, I'm thinking of buying one myself.

Re:Yay!! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751781)

Awesome, you'll be able to use the built-in calculator to your great benefit!

Re:Yay!! (2)

0123456 (636235) | about a year and a half ago | (#42752909)

Awesome, you'll be able to use the built-in calculator to your great benefit!

Most people I know use tablets for email, web browsing and e-book reading while traveling. So not having 50,000 fart apps isn't really a big downside. And, from what I understand, they've made porting Android apps much easier in the new OS so there should be at least 5,000 fart apps soon.

Re:Yay!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42753001)

Yeah... I wasn't commenting on the app ecosystem.

I was commenting on the fact that grandparent wrote:

No, trust me, I know 3 of those 5 users ...

And you replied:

And I know the other three.

Hence the math joke. It really sucks having to explain your jokes.

Re:Yay!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42754021)

Its a well known fact that those bad at math suck at humor as well.

Re:Yay!! (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year and a half ago | (#42753505)

Actually, I think he was pointing out that between us we know 6 out of 5 owners of the playbook.

I think it's meant to be a whoosh. ;-)

Re:Yay!! (1)

rikkards (98006) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751827)

I have one and it is collecting dust since I picked up a Nexus 7. The hardware is good, it's just the OS that was crap. The youtube app which I use a lot had an annoying feature where the video would stop after 5 seconds if you had paused and resumed playing. The wireless networking was flakey. Confirmed this when I got the Nexus and had rock solid signal in my house. The video player doesn't have AC3 nor DTS support so I need to reencode everything. Nexus 7 with MX player has played everything I have thrown at it.
Whenever I went to look for new apps they were predominantly ebooks and the lack of try before you buy is annoying (yes I know ipads have the same thing so it isn't an isolated Rim issue). Now when BB10 comes out I may dust it off and recharge the battery to see what it is like and give it to the wife.if she wants it that is.

Re:Yay!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751835)

It's been collecting dust for a while, time to charge it back up I guess!

Re:Yay!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42753385)

I have a couple of playbooks- use them for web browsing, e-books, and playing music thru the stereo speakers while working around the house. Works very well; I think people are protesting too hard about Playbook. The only fault I have is that it is too heavy for what it is, but a) it is a 2-3 year old design; b) it's built quite tough.

I like the size of the screen as well. If there was a new model that had the same size screen but smaller overall (reduce the bezel) and lighter weight, I'd buy it. The playbook OS is great for what it does. I use Android as well and to me, both OS's have valid uses.

Re:Yay!! (1)

0123456 (636235) | about a year and a half ago | (#42753445)

The only fault I have is that it is too heavy for what it is, but a) it is a 2-3 year old design; b) it's built quite tough.

One of the reasons I like them is because they seem far more robust than my Asus Transformer; particularly after seeing pictures of screens people claim to have broken just by picking them up or closing them on the keyboard dock.

Re:Yay!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42758977)

My sister and myself have one and we love them.

Re:Yay!! (1)

jakobX (132504) | about a year and a half ago | (#42752065)

Cant say about the other four but im ecstatic.

Re:Yay!! (1)

blind monkey 3 (773904) | about a year and a half ago | (#42752937)

Me too.
Wow, so this is what it's like to be in an exclusive club.

Reviewer is not a photographer (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751181)

Hey Gizmodo, why is the Z10 picture not framed the same way as the other three phones? The soldier's head is halfway down the picture, as opposed to the top for the other three pictures. Maybe Mario Aguilar should learn to point cameras before he reviews them.

Re:Reviewer is not a photographer (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751245)

So what your saying is that he was "holding it wrong"? And exactly how would moving the shoot point up make the image brighter?

Re:Reviewer is not a photographer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751287)

If he's pointing at a darker area, the picture will be darker. If he points it at (approximately) the same area, then the illumination will be very similar and we can compare Apples to Blackberries. It doesn't mean that the camera is good, it just means that the test is bad.

Re:Reviewer is not a photographer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751293)

Look at the picture. The other three are centered. The Z10 pic is offset. It's probably trying to focus on something else completely.

Re:Reviewer is not a photographer (1)

Marc Madness (2205586) | about a year and a half ago | (#42754375)

Framing the picture differently affects how the exposure settings are chosen by the auto-exposure algorithm since the sample points will be distributed differently in the scene than with the other cameras. If one of the exposure sample points happens to be significantly brighter than the others, then the sensitivity of the sensor could be tuned down to ensure that the picture is not saturated (the upper right of the image seems brigher than the rest of the image). This calls the validity of the test into question.

A Date would be nice? (2)

GreyLurk (35139) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751207)

When? I think it's interesting how BB touts to it's developers that 90% of it's users upgrade to the newest OS within a month of it's release. The reason seems to be because they can't download any good apps for it, so they're desperately hoping to get some functionality out of the Base OS.

Re:A Date would be nice? (1)

Giskard Reventlov (2829699) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751879)

Agreed. Date or it'll never happen.

Re:A Date would be nice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42752043)

The other reason is that the software is so painfully outdated users really want the new features asap.

Re:A Date would be nice? (-1, Flamebait)

yuaggyta (2829823) | about a year and a half ago | (#42754859)

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Apps for all (1)

Unknown1337 (2697703) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751211)

This was mentioned at the alpha launch(es), I guess it was an oversight on 'real' launch day. Being able to write 1 app that with little to no code change runs on a BB tablet or phone will be huge for bringing the BB app store back into the light. Not to mention to android OS support making porting a piece of cake.

Re:Apps for all (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42752925)

Which is why all those offers of free handsets and $$$ have meant so many productivity apps are available on BB10 right at launch!

Oh wait....

Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (5, Insightful)

Layzej (1976930) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751233)

Why does slashdot/timothy have such a hate on for Blackberry? They have just released a great new product with a revolutionary interface, hardware (including camera) that most reviewers are putting heads and shoulders above the competition. Slashdot just keeps slinging the FUD.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (0)

Desler (1608317) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751263)

What is revolutionary about either the OS or the hardware?

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (2)

CodeheadUK (2717911) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751343)

The balance concept is a pretty good idea. Whether it will work in the real world remains to be seen, but it addresses BYOD problems quite nicely.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (2)

Layzej (1976930) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751669)

Have you seen the new OS? It's quite slick. I have an iphone and it looks clunky next to the BB10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nt666iKTmw [youtube.com]

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

Desler (1608317) | about a year and a half ago | (#42753961)

Yes. So can you name a single one of the "revolutionary" features?

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

omfglearntoplay (1163771) | about a year and a half ago | (#42786263)

The thing they call Timeshift picture taking. It's the best camera invention ever IMO.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42753695)

The OS is neither any spin of Unix (not Linux, not BSD, not Minix...) nor Windows. It's QNX, which makes it an interesting platform choice for a tablet or phone. Hardware, I dunno - does Blackberry use the ARM, like everyone else?

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42755679)

QNX is fully posix certified and it used to have a sysV init system so it is quite unixy.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | about a year and a half ago | (#42756855)

Agreed, 'revolutionary' makes me envisage Ernesto Guevara with a scruffy beard and a beret. Nevertheless...

To be honest, the hardware looks rather mundane - borrowing none of the sleek lines that Samsung "stole" from Apple. ;-)

But amongst OS aficionados, QNX is the business - a real-time embedded kernel that supposedly would leave Linux/XNU in the dust on phones (whoops, is such a statement considered blasphemy in these parts?!) A revolution? probably not but providing souped up multi-tasking of Android apps, continuing the Qt legacy of Meego/Symbian and providing enterprise services that made it the original BB a hit is at least a challenger to the bring-your-own-phone culture that has seen BB lose market share.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

MemoryDragon (544441) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751271)

Actually the camera is shitty...
But the rest is really nice.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751295)

They're paid Android shills.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

Desler (1608317) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751365)

Or they can see bog standard specs and an OS that has basically cherry-picked and evolved features from others? Using QtQuick is cool, but not revolutionary in anyway. Nokia phones were already using that. It's definitely an improvement over their other latest offerings but nothing "revolutionary" about the OS or the Z10.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

Zeromous (668365) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751911)

You don't need a quad core when you are running QNX to get same real-world performance as iOS or Android. Just guessing.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42752299)

And you don't it for iOS either. Since there is no quad-core iPhone. The iPhone is just as snappy with slower stock clock speeds and half the ram as the Z10.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

Zeromous (668365) | about a year and a half ago | (#42753155)

Id hardly call my IPhone5 snappy AC. It could use a Quad.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42754031)

The GUI of iOS does all the rendering on the GPU. A quad-core CPU might help CPU-intensive apps but it'd have less effect on the GUI. The GPU and memory bandwidth, which is where the iPhone 5 beats almost any other phone, is what is important. also I've heard no one but you ever claim iOS to be anything but snappy on an iPhone 5. Methinks you're trolling.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

Zeromous (668365) | about a year and a half ago | (#42761003)

I'm not trolling, the Iphone5 is not immune to slowdown. The point is my money is on BB10 requiring less CPU resources since QNX pretty much wrote the book on RTOS. Also I play hockey with their devs so maybe I am trolling a bit ;D

Next Iphone will likely use a dual CPU/quad core GPU, so its not difficult to see the BB10 doing just as much (if not more) with less when you consider the snapdragon dual core + adreno I assume that drives it.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

Stewie241 (1035724) | about a year and a half ago | (#42755375)

It's also possible that just because a processor has more cores doesn't mean that it is faster.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | about a year and a half ago | (#42756985)

Indeed, like any client GUI, an 'app' will only run faster to the extent that its logic is parallelized.

I thought a main benefit of multiple cores was potentially to achieve the same amount of work at lower clock speeds. i.e. by delegating background processes to the secondary/tertiary/quaternary cores, the OS can run with fewer battery-draining CPU spikes.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

synapse7 (1075571) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751337)

The palm pre probably still spanks the shit out of it in the multi-tasking, how is that revolutionary? Was there a for the issue with charging while it was on or off and then there was the whole mail issue needing to be tethered to another device for mail? Maybe I'm digging up old bones, but I wouldn't touch it.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751745)

Probably still spanks? Well, I see your argument is air tight.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

Zeromous (668365) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751923)

QNX vs PalmOS, palm wins performance LOL?

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (3, Insightful)

gbjbaanb (229885) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751417)

and they've done a decent job with the overall design (not the looks), the predictive text works by putting the word you might want above the next letter you type, so if you type "the" then it will put "they're" above the y key so you just swipe up from that key. without having to look elsewhere and context-switch your brain to see a list of possible words. Someone sat down and thought about that, and that attention to software engineering detail gets a big thumbs up from me.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (4, Insightful)

gutnor (872759) | about a year and a half ago | (#42752381)

Overall BlackBerry have done quite a good job. They manage to have a distinct style, an OS with both familiarity and feature that set it apart both for home and office. As for the polish, the phone comes with loads of app (android port), complete line of accessories, and an OS that seems on par feature-wise with the competition. They also don't turn their back on their core market, the business,

I don't see how BB could have done a better launch, and if the phones deliver on the promises during the first round of reviews, they are in as best place as they could have been.

Obviously they have a loooong way to go and the odds are against them big time. But for the time being, well done BB engineers !

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751455)

Why do people with 7-digit IDs feel the need to shill?

Blackberry have released a new iteration of a product which is incremental instead of revolutionary.

This isn't FUD, this is genuine skepticism that they're going to go anywhere.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751775)

because it's all so-so?

who the fuck is saying that they the camera is good? it's only good if you're a bb fan and had your last phone bought 4 years ago and are comparing to that(and were a bb fan so you didn't have a n95..).

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751981)

It's a safe target.
Apple is not good, because there are a lot of fans around.
Android, well, there's only so much bashing you can do with a single target each day.
Microsoft ... well, they're at the stage, where any publicity is good publicity, so, it would be actually an act of kindness to mention them.
Samsung, if they choose that one, then it looks like Apple favoritism, so, no; they need to hide it.
There are other good articles out there, but not for this ... place.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42752011)

They have just released a great new product with a revolutionary interface

I suppose it's revolutionary for a company that once mocked the iPhone to now imitate it.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

rabbit994 (686936) | about a year and a half ago | (#42752211)

Anyone who has had to administer BES probably has hate for these stupid little devices. I know I do.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

Espectr0 (577637) | about a year and a half ago | (#42752933)

Are you seeing the same review as me? The crackberry review took shots on the lumia 920, iphone 5, z10 and samsung s3. Images on the z10 are the worst on every test out there.

The camera just sucks, and it proves megapixels don't mean squat.

Never mind that they removed push email support from non corporate accounts, don't have pull down notifications like every platform out there, and abysmal 1 day battery compared to previous versions.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

m1ss1ontomars2k4 (1302833) | about a year and a half ago | (#42753667)

I OWN a PlayBook and I don't think terribly highly of it. OK, it's not that bad, but I literally have nothing to do on it. There's just nothing to do on it that my Android phone doesn't do better (except for having a large screen).

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

Layzej (1976930) | about a year and a half ago | (#42754023)

Then you may be glad to hear that it is getting a revamped OS. One that is causing quite a buzz. As to why the editor added speculation about the Playbook camera - I'm really not sure. I imagine that (if the playbook even has a camera) it is well known how it performs. If it does have a camera you may find the time shifting on photos to be a cool feature. This allows you to pull any spot on the photo back in time to capture the perfect smile on each of the subjects. How cool is that?

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

m1ss1ontomars2k4 (1302833) | about a year and a half ago | (#42754805)

The revamped OS IS the current PlayBook OS. There are only a few features new to the OS that the PlayBook didn't already have.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

techsoldaten (309296) | about a year and a half ago | (#42754825)

Slashdot does not sling FUD, users do. Every time a new iPhone comes out, Android users make fun of it, and vice versa.

The thing to remember about Slashdot is this is where the tribes collide. Most of the self-reinforcing opinions people share does not make sense. The valuable points get modded to the top, and the trolls mark themselves anonymous. It's not a bad thing to get bent out of shape about, some remarkable conversations emerge from the variety of opinions.

That said, I own an iPad, a Nexus 7, a Galaxy Note II, and a Blackberry Playbook (along with some other tablets I have accumulated). I can tell you about the relative strengths and weaknesses of each one without needing to say something bad about the others.

There's a great irony to the debates that happen on Slashdot, which is that it's all just technology. These devices are mostly obsolete within a few months after they are released, and OS updates do little to make them future proof. Deciding on a personal mobile device / platform is really just a way of saying who you plan to spend money with on future upgrades.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (1)

Layzej (1976930) | about a year and a half ago | (#42760935)

Slashdot does not sling FUD, users do.

A user submitted a story that the playbook would be upgraded with the new BB10 OS. A slashdot editor (timothy) tacked on speculation about whether the playbook has a 'crappy' camera. There is no need to speculate about this. The playbook has been out for almost 2 years. If it even has a camera, the quality thereof is likely well known.

He also added "from the seriously-how-is-blackberry-compelling-nowadays? dept". This is a good question and one that deserved to be answered in the summary. There are a number of compelling new features in the OS that make my iphone look clunky by comparison. This is the definition of FUD. No direct allegations are made - only leading questions and speculation are added.

This is not the slashdot community - this is slashdot. I don't think that I'm wrong to question whether timothy receives remuneration for adding FUD to Blackberry stories. I'm not saying he does - just speculating ;P

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42760143)

Imagine an army of Comic Book Guy's from the Simpsons, and you have a pretty good idea of slash[dot]com readership... just watch the replies to this message to prove it :-) Try reading the replies with that characters voice, and the replies become quite entertaining.

Re:Seriously - what is slashdot's agenda? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42783331)

Why does slashdot/timothy have such a hate on for Blackberry?

Because all proprietary software is dangerous to this community. It turns us against eachother, and forces us to make ethical compromises on practically every level. Blackberry is known to aid governments in spying on its users, at the very least, and is a threat to the world by nature of its continued insistence on closed platform development, and support of despotic regimes. The fact that it pissed off its app developers and drove them away almost to extinction with red tape did nothing to repair their reputation here, also.

and ars says (4, Informative)

gbjbaanb (229885) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751261)

ArsTechnica [arstechnica.com] has a user comment (scroll down, its the 'editors pick') showing the problem with the camera:

I should also point out that the iPhone's applied far more contrast to the picture and, as a result, lost detail - look at the flat area of darkness in the trunk compared to the range of tones present in the pic from the BB. These are all post-processing problems, though, and (assuming both devices were on default settings) really just tell you that Apple's software is set to produce 'punchier' pictures out of the box as opposed to the lighter processing done by the BB, which ultimately retains more of the image.

so its not crap, it just doesn't aggressively sharpen everything like the iPhone does, so it appears less defined and misty. Its just appearance though, slap it through the same amount of software processing and you'll get the same result.

Anyway, they say the keyboard is excellent and can be used with 1 hand (or 1 thumb) which is a definite design win.

Re:and ars says (1)

Joehonkie (665142) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751829)

Not only that, we know what the Playbook's camera is like. It has been out on the market for forever now. I'm not sure why the deliberate dig was taken in the editor's comment. Also, Gizmodo? Yuk.

Re:and ars says (1)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | about a year and a half ago | (#42754091)

Yeah, but its a camera on a phone. Most users of a camera phone aren't going to go through the hassle of adjusting the sharpness of the pictures. Apple, in this case, chose the right thing to produce an image that the user wants, rather than simply trying to deliver the most information in the picture that can be extracted.

Now if we were talking about slr's then I'd want the blackberry's camera.

Re:and ars says (1)

silverpig (814884) | about a year and a half ago | (#42754755)

But most users are just going to apply an instagram or hipstamatic filter (or use BB's filters). Besides, this is something they can change with an OTA update. If the feedback comes in that people really want an auto-sharpened image, BB can make that mod quite quickly.

My wife should be pleased ... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751283)

She's been underwhelmed with her PlayBook and found it a little flaky, prone to losing its network, or locking up and needing a hard boot.

The last upgrade fixed the rather pathetic battery life, so maybe this will improve it even more.

I'm tired of the scowls from her since I'm the one who bought it for her. We know a couple of people with them, and they seem to have the same kind of results -- though, I certainly know people who say theirs are the most stable things ever. To us, it's failed to live up to expectations.

Re:My wife should be pleased ... (1)

thammoud (193905) | about a year and a half ago | (#42752965)

I'm the one who bought it for her

What did she do to deserve the punishment?

BalckBerry's still exist? (-1, Troll)

who_stole_my_kidneys (1956012) | about a year and a half ago | (#42751307)

who knew ..

The camera sucks, so the platform is doomed? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751423)

Seriously, a full article about how sub-par a single feature is in a smartphone. Gizmodo has been overtly critical of Blackberry in the past, but that's just ridiculous.

Playbook camera (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751437)

My playbook camera is notoriously bad in low light, the images come out all pixelated. This usually translates to not having sun light present, most of the time.

Other than that, the thing is great heh

Lousy spelling, worse editing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751567)

Yesterday's BlackBerry 10 announcement did not mention the comapny's tablet, the Playbook, but users will be relieved to know it will get an update to BlacfkBerry 10

What's "BlacfkBerry 10" guys? The pre-rooted version for us hackers?

Re:Lousy spelling, worse editing... (1)

unp (982975) | about a year and a half ago | (#42775457)

It's not an insecure platform such as android or IOS. Good luck rooting it.

just what i was waiting for (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42751589)

i'm sure playbooks will jump off the shelves now that you can get BB X on them . . .

QNX and BB10 (2)

frank249 (100528) | about a year and a half ago | (#42752997)

BB10 and the Playbook OS are both based on QNX which is also in 60% of all car infotainment units. Rock solid micro kernal OS that is also used in nuclear plants and medical devices. I have used my Playbook for over two years now and it has new crashed. Apps install without having to reboot. I think many people will be pleasantly surprised with how well BB10 and QNX just works. It also sets the stage for more integration between smartphones, tablets, and car systems.

As for the update to the Playbook, Crackberry.com says that a new version of the Bridge program is in Appworld now which means that the Playbook update to BB10 could be any day now.

Re:QNX and BB10 (1)

frank249 (100528) | about a year and a half ago | (#42753019)

Sorry, never crashed.

Gizmodo confusing exposure with IQ (1)

JoeyRox (2711699) | about a year and a half ago | (#42753163)

The Z10 photo in the Gizmodo comparison just looks underexposed, so it's likely just a shortcoming in the software's exposure algorithm rather than a problem with the image sensor/camera. Should be easy to fix.

Re:Gizmodo confusing exposure with IQ (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42758289)

The Z10 photo in the Gizmodo comparison just looks underexposed, so it's likely just a shortcoming in the software's exposure algorithm rather than a problem with the image sensor/camera. Should be easy to fix.

Why is the Z10 statue placed so low in comparison to the rest? Iphone, Lumia and Galaxy statues almost at top of pics, Z10 half way down???? Great journalism.

Spreading FUD from Gizmodo (1)

dysonlu (907935) | about a year and a half ago | (#42753567)

Slashdot story submitter should use better judgement. The picture taken on the BB10 phone wasn't even framed like the others were: http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/blackberry-z10-f254/133209d1359583067-gizmodos-camera-review-low-light-performance-fail-wwzsmmo.jpg [crackberry.com]

Hope it's soon (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42753741)

My playbook is 2 years old, but still feels peppier than either a Nexus 7 or iPad mini. I prefer it's browser to Safari Mobile, Chrome on Android, or (lol) Androids piece of shit stock browser. It can sideload most android apps, and the handful of games I've had on it run smoother and look better than I've played on droid. Best thing about them is they're still dirt cheap.

All my major beefs with it seem to be fixed with BB10, the main being lack of a good GPS app.

bngh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42753843)

gfhfhf

I have a playbook (1)

AdmV0rl0n (98366) | about a year and a half ago | (#42753995)

And I had it before it outsold the Ipad 4 over the holiday period in the UK by a ratio of 4-1.
Since it had ver 2 and later updates, has a decent mail client onboard now - and its core apps (Music, Pics, Movies, Internet, E-reading) all work to a reasonable nice standard - its price is low, and you get 64 GB so don't have such a need for storage - all on what might be termed awesome pricing.

I think Mx Player on droid plays more, but cut to the chase, the core movie player played everything I threw at it, and this was far better than the core movie player on droid did in my tests.

And I'll concur, not enough apps, but the OS itself is actually very pleasant to use.

I quite rate the playbook. Apps aside, its well rounded, works well, is pleasant to use, has good storage, has good camera's. Has a good price. Whats the problem?

Just hoping... (1)

sesshomaru (173381) | about a year and a half ago | (#42754065)

My Playbook now does exactly what I want it to do. It's a great remote terminal for my Linux box and a great tablet. I sincerely hope that upgrading to 10 will have no impact on this.

Incidentally, Playbooks, refurbished, have reached the "fun toy" price. Seriously, cheaper than the Kindle Fire I got Christmas 2011, and way ahead of it specs wise.

Oh, and the Playbook's cameras?

"PlayBook Features a 3 MP front-facing camera for video chatting over Wi-Fi and a rear-facing 5 MP camera, both of which can record 1080p video.[" -- BlackBerry PlayBook [wikipedia.org]

Bb10 should be great (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42757853)

I can't wait to see if all this "hype" is actually worth is http://www.empowernetwork.com/chaseyourdreamtoo/blog/blackberry-10-set-to-hit-stores/?id=chaseyourdreamtoo

PlayBook rocks! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42758487)

The PlayBook is a fantastic piece of hardware and with BB10 will be made even better. I find it far better than my Nexus when it comes to performance and reliability.

 

Why does PlayBook take so -long- to boot-up?!? (1)

ivi (126837) | about a year and a half ago | (#42759031)

...And, will boot-time improve when it's updated to BackBerry 10...? :-)

Will it be easier to insall & find KhanAcademy (1)

ivi (126837) | about a year and a half ago | (#42759071)

A 64GB PlayBook w/ S/W updated to 2.1 would play most or even all of the Creative Common licensed files comprising the available portions of KhanAcademy.org, but it wasn't easy to find & go through a sequence of course files.

(There's a PlayBook-specific app for KA courses, but it sorted files of KA's courses rather poorly, IMO; at least it could play both Flash & MP4 format files just fine.)

I hope the BlackBerry 10 updated PlayBook can leave such course files where ever we decide to place them, ie, in order within their folders (eg, 1 course per folder), rather than separating MP4's from FLV's.

BB- Hint (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42760173)

Never show, nor allow anywhere NEAR a microphone, again, that idiot CEO, "Heins" (Heil Hitler).

Get a Spokesperson, and a Marketing Team that know what the hell they are doing, or you are DONE.

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