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Hidden 'Radio' Buttons Discovered In Apple's iOS 6.1

samzenpus posted about a year and a half ago | from the I'm-on-apple-radio dept.

IOS 101

tad001 writes "CNET is reporting 'Discovered last night within a freshly jailbroken iPad: a set of buttons and code references for "radio," a feature found in iTunes on Macs and PCs, but not on the iPad or iPhone.' ... 'The buttons hint at Apple's much-rumored radio service, a product that will let people stream music much like they do on the popular Pandora service, but with deep ties to Apple's iTunes library.' ... 'The discovery follows a high-profile jailbreak of iOS 6.1, the updated system software Apple released just last week. A team of developers came up with a tool that gives users deep system-level access to do things like install applications from third-party app stores, change the look and feel of iOS, and add new software features.'"

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I predict the imminent retun of Slashdot Radio. (5, Funny)

lxs (131946) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818643)

Because there are clearly radio buttons on the Slasdot poll.

Re:I predict the imminent retun of Slashdot Radio. (2)

Internal Modem (1281796) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818731)

It looks like you "whooshed" the moderators. Good job!

Re:I predict the imminent retun of Slashdot Radio. (2)

Internal Modem (1281796) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818741)

EDIT: OP was "+4 insightful" when I commented. At +5 Funny now. Someone got it.

Re:I predict the imminent retun of Slashdot Radio. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42818977)

That's because you don't get karma for funny posts.

Re:I predict the imminent retun of Slashdot Radio. (4, Funny)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819075)

That's because you don't get karma for funny posts.

Maybe YOU don't...

Re:I predict the imminent retun of Slashdot Radio. (2)

Plumpaquatsch (2701653) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820881)

That's because you don't get karma for funny posts.

That's what "Underrated" is for - not "Insightful".

Re:I predict the imminent retun of Slashdot Radio. (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42821405)

Check the FAQ, they changed it. You didn't use to, but you do now.

Now, on to the actual topic: Why? There is already a free app out there for both iPhone/iPad and Android that will let you stream almost any radio station in the world; they advertise it daily on KSHE. My guess is that they were originally going to put some sort of radio feature in, it got half finished and everyone was using the free app so they shelved it.

Meanwhile, five years ago someone I know had a dumb phone that had an AM-FM radio built in. Not internet radio, of course, but still -- it seems to me that every smart phone and feature phone should have a built-in radio and TV receiver. If the telcos weren't a bunch of bald faced liars (like every corporation is these days) they could save a lot of their bandwidth. Thios pretty much indicates that their data caps are bullshit that has nothing to do with saturating their frequencies, but is just a ploy to extract more $$$$$ from their customers.

If Android had a built-in TV and radio reciever (most of the curcuitry is already there and all of it for a sound radio), I'd buy one. A tablet with built-in radio and TV would really be nice!

Re:I predict the imminent retun of Slashdot Radio. (1)

inu_maru (843192) | about a year and a half ago | (#42829085)

Depends on your market. For example, Japan has had android devices (tablets included) with both radio and TV for sometime (albeit one-seg crap for tv, really lousy rez) .

Too bad the drivers for these tend to be proprietary.

Re:I predict the imminent retun of Slashdot Radio. (1)

isorox (205688) | about a year and a half ago | (#42822693)

That's because you don't get karma for funny posts.

Is there anyone left on slashdot that didn't max their karma out decades ago?

Re:I predict the imminent retun of Slashdot Radio. (4, Insightful)

Vintermann (400722) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819465)

It's a thing on slashdot now, some newbies rate insightful instead of funny because they've heard that funny doesn't give karma.

I infer that they are newbies from the fact that they want to give karma to me. It's really, really not hard to max out on karma on slashdot.

Re:I predict the imminent retun of Slashdot Radio. (1)

grub (11606) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821697)

"It's really, really not hard to max out on karma on slashdot."

My karma was maxed out but then some trolls started hammering down every post I did a while back and I'm now in the can. C'est la vie. Will just have to make some Funny posts to get my karma back. Oh wait.

Re:I predict the imminent retun of Slashdot Radio. (1)

alexhs (877055) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818855)

UIRadioButton, for when UISegmentedControl is not enough !

Re:I predict the imminent retun of Slashdot Radio. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42818947)

IF candidatePost.indexOf('apple') > -1 THEN post();

Radio buttons, for that vintage look (1)

starworks5 (139327) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818655)

Radio buttons are the new swipe gestures

Re:Radio buttons, for that vintage look (0, Flamebait)

dedmorris (1137577) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818675)

So you mean Apple will try to get a design patent on radio buttons?

Re:Radio buttons, for that vintage look (3, Funny)

Savage-Rabbit (308260) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819233)

So you mean Apple will try to get a design patent on radio buttons?

No they won't I've already patented concentric circles.

Re:Radio buttons, for that vintage look (4, Funny)

Custard Horse (1527495) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819391)

Apple will claim that they are squares with the corners filed off...

Re:Radio buttons, for that vintage look (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42819711)

it's already covered by their rounded rectangle patent because what is a circle but a rectangle with infinite sides.

Re:Radio buttons, for that vintage look (2)

dedmorris (1137577) | about a year and a half ago | (#42825571)

Wow - make a very gentle crack on Apple, and my karma goes from excellent to good to positive in less than an hour. I have learned my lesson.

Re:Radio buttons, for that vintage look (2)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818723)

They're buttons with a radio antenna on them, not "radio buttons" as in "buttons that only let you select one thing at once".

Re:Radio buttons, for that vintage look (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820123)

You only really need a number of sides exceeding that which you can easily perceive to be considered a circle.

Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (3, Interesting)

Internal Modem (1281796) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818683)

This seems like another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network, which can definitely use the boost. Advertiser-sponsored streaming radio stations (a la Pandora) with a paid option to remove advertising.

These buy buttons seem like the obvious tie-in with iTunes to buy a song as it is streaming. This falls in with Apple's announcement that they will start separating software revenue from hardware revenue in quarterly reports. I guess they won't be propping up iPod revenue with iTunes anymore (since music players don't affect the stock any more).

Apple's software is getting stickier. [slashdot.org]

Re:Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (3, Interesting)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818749)

Interestingly enough, iTunes runs at around break-even, with Apple using it largley as a way of getting people to buy iDevices by ensuring there is content available for them. I wonder if this means that the market has shifted and it now has to pull its own weight as a profit-making part of the business.

Re:Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (1)

Internal Modem (1281796) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818789)

I know we've been told that repeatedly, but that was specifically in reference to music sales. I suspect it has also been somewhat of an accounting trick. Remember that the App Stores are part of iTunes...

Re:Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (1)

kthreadd (1558445) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818847)

Interesting. What data do you base this suspicion on?

Re:Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (5, Informative)

Internal Modem (1281796) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818929)

Here's a story from 2008 where Steve Jobs once again repeated the claim that Apple didn't expect to make a lot of money through iTunes selling phone Apps. [nytimes.com] However, the author disagrees and compares iTunes to other e-commerce businesses like Amazon and eBay.

In 2008, iTunes had "margins that are better than the best e-commerce companies around; no marketing costs and a built in audience; Sales of nearly $3 billion a year in its existing business; and a new $1 billion business on the way."

In 2013, we now know the sales projections were conservative, and with a need to show revenue growth to investors, I'm sure Tim Cook would not announce that Apple would begin quarterly reports of software revenue (e.g. iTunes) without being certain he can produce big numbers.

Re:Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820341)

"I'm sure Tim Cook would not announce that Apple would begin quarterly reports of software revenue (e.g. iTunes) without being certain he can produce big numbers."

Are you sure? This is the same guy who's overseen $280bn wiped off the market cap of the company in under 6 months, sacked some of the people who were important to the companies growth in the first place after allowing an abysmal mapping application to go live, and has pursued a regime of court cases where they've lost or partially lost just about every single one except the one in their own backyard.

Cook is a failure of a CEO, I wouldn't put anything stupid past him, it's not like he has any clue what he's doing in that role. He'd be far better off resigning the post and going back to operations manager, at least he seemed comfortable and competent there. He got handed a company that was rich in liquidity, had literally over $100bn at it's disposal, was on a massive upwards trajectory and reversed all that- the money sat in the bank alone should've been enough for any muppet to grow the company's profits consistently without trouble but it seems he doesn't even know what to do with that.

It's likely the stock market fall would've been even drastically much greater again if he hadn't propped it up with dividend payments to convince people to stay put.

Re:Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (3, Funny)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821657)

Mr. Ballmer, this really comes across as sour grapes, don't you think?

Re:Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42821587)

Here's a story from 2008 where
Steve Jobs once again repeated the claim that Apple didn't expect to make a lot of money through iTunes selling phone Apps. [nytimes.com] However, the author disagrees and compares iTunes to other e-commerce businesses like Amazon and eBay..

Given that Amazon is making almost no profit, if the iTunes store makes almost no profit, that would make them very comparable.

Re:Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (2, Interesting)

tlhIngan (30335) | about a year and a half ago | (#42822203)

2013, we now know the sales projections were conservative, and with a need to show revenue growth to investors, I'm sure Tim Cook would not announce that Apple would begin quarterly reports of software revenue (e.g. iTunes) without being certain he can produce big numbers.

iTunes sales numbers are right there in their financials. It's marked as "online services" or somesuch, and it earns a few billion dollars in revenue annually (note timespan).

Of course, those numbers pale compared to even Mac revenue numbers (order of magnitude higher).

And revenues aren't profits - no one outside Apple knows how much the iTunes store makes in profit - though I suspect it's saddled with the cost of the datacenter Apple set up and iCloud and processing fees and such.

Re:Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818901)

Well, it was for the whole store, but it was for 2010 and I'm having a real problem pinning down the relevant quote to the conference call it supposedly came from.

Re:Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (1)

Mister Whirly (964219) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820525)

How can a service that only provides other artist's content and takes 1/3 of the money not be turning a profit? What are they running on Apple Servers so their server cost is quadrupled?

Re:Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (2)

Patch86 (1465427) | about a year and a half ago | (#42822359)

Have you seen the licensing costs for Apple Server software? iTunes may barely break even, but their Enterprise Software division is doing great!

Only half joking; that sort of accounting trick is common as muck, as long as there's an incentive for it. Not sure what that incentive would be in this case, but 5p on the side says that it begins with "T" and ends with "X", without much in the middle. See Starbucks and their "loss making UK division", with a surprisingly high, and highly circuitous, payment to license the brand from their American parent which just so happens to change each year to match whatever their revenues are...

Re:Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (1)

steelfood (895457) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821955)

The real question is whether Apple will ban other internet streaming apps from the app store once they release their service.

Re:Another revenue stream for Apple's iAd Network? (1)

steelfood (895457) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821983)

Arg, I meant music streaming apps.

And I can't even blame this on it being late at night (or early in the morning for that matter).

What will they come up with next?! (1)

Mister Liberty (769145) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818745)

What is this new thing called 'radio'?

Re:What will they come up with next?! (2)

tinkerton (199273) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818821)

It's kind of an analog wifi. I'm surprised they managed to make it work so soon, if you know how many engineers broke their teeth on analog computers. Probably not really analog then but with a digital machinery under the hood..

Re:What will they come up with next?! (2)

rossdee (243626) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819679)

Radio is so old it predates Analog, and even Astounding and Amazing Stories...

Re:What will they come up with next?! (1)

tinkerton (199273) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820083)

On the other hand Astounding Stories predated Scifi radio shows by a few years.

Re:What will they come up with next?! (2)

inasity_rules (1110095) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818879)

You joke, but my fairly recent Nokia N8 could both receive and transmit Analogue FM between around 88MHz and 104MHZ. I often wondered if I couldn't hack it into a smart tuner...

Analogue radio is still around in many parts of the world and isn't going anywhere. However TFA is referring to the use of Wifi or (3rd gen) GSM radio to stream audio from a internet source...

 

Re:What will they come up with next?! (2)

JasterBobaMereel (1102861) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819045)

That will be something like the Radio service I get on my Android, or something similar to the live streaming of broadcast audio I can also get on the same device ...

Re:What will they come up with next?! (1)

OakDragon (885217) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819891)

Conan O'Brien once quipped about TV : "You can watch videos, just like on your computer or phone, but in the comfort of your own living room!"

Re:What will they come up with next?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42824025)

You don't want one, they're dangerous. Have you ever heard the term "radioactive"?

Pandora WTF is that who cares? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42818803)

Dear Pandora Visitor,

We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S., Australia and New Zealand. We will continue to work diligently to realize the vision of a truly global Pandora, but for the time being we are required to restrict its use. We are very sad to have to do this, but there is no other alternative.

We believe that you are in Canada (your IP address appears to be 96.50.23.58). If you believe we have made a mistake, we apologize and ask that you please email us.

If you have been using Pandora, we will keep a record of your existing stations and bookmarked artists and songs, so that when we are able to launch in your country, they will be waiting for you.

We will be notifying listeners as licensing agreements are established in individual countries. If you would like to be notified by email when Pandora is available in your country, please enter your email address below. The pace of global licensing is hard to predict, but we have the ultimate goal of being able to offer our service everywhere.

We share your disappointment and greatly appreciate your understanding.

Sincerely, Some quiggles

eat my shorts I know the ropes [205.188.215.228]
So I just open this up in VLC http://205.188.215.228:8010 instead ....like I said eat my shorts.
Same with JetFM Courtney and many others from all over the place.
Some of the best are:
http://145.58.33.95:8096
http://glb-stream11.streamserver.ch/1/rsc_de/mp3_128
And my favourite of all time that Pandora cannot even touch
http://radio.cesnet.cz:8000/cro-d-dur.flac

Harrumph

JERKS

Re:Pandora WTF is that who cares? (2)

inasity_rules (1110095) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818907)

Try living in Africa. We got the iTunes music store late last year, by which time I'd already chucked the only idevice I ever had the misfortune to own. Can't even buy from amazon....

Re:Pandora WTF is that who cares? (1)

thejynxed (831517) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819217)

1) Setup a postal address in the EU, with forwarding to your address in Africa.
2) Use a proxy to order from Amazon.
3)?
4) Profit!

(And yes, this works, my aunt and cousin had to do exactly this when they were in Africa for two months.)

Re:Pandora WTF is that who cares? (2)

inasity_rules (1110095) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819293)

2.5 Get rejected because your credit card isn't in the EU.... I think they sell a T-shirt for this...

It is honestly so stupid (also another reason I quit apple).

Me:"I want to buy x, y, z. Here take my money. Heck, I'll even pay your ridiculous price."

Apple/Amazon/Pandora/etc: "STFU. This stuff isn't available in your region."

Me: "And I shouldn't pirate because....?"

At least steam works fine. Why can't everyone else that?

How games differ from music, movies, and TV (2)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819709)

At least steam works fine. Why can't everyone else that?

Steam is a service for distribution of video games. The time between the invention of video games and the Internet was much shorter than for music, movies, or TV shows. Because distribution was so difficult in the pre-Internet era, long-term exclusive contracts with a distributor that specializes in each territory became the norm. PC games, on the other hand, had demos spread through dial-up BBSes even before the Internet was opened to the public in the mid-1990s.

Re:How games differ from music, movies, and TV (1)

Mister Whirly (964219) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820599)

PC games, on the other hand, had demos spread through dial-up BBSes

Demos, hell, whole games available for downloading. And way before the word a "torrent" had anything to do with digital distribution.

Re:How games differ from music, movies, and TV (1)

filthpickle (1199927) | about a year and a half ago | (#42822497)

BitchX bitches!

Re:How games differ from music, movies, and TV (1)

drkstr1 (2072368) | about a year and a half ago | (#42827671)

Hahaha, I had completely forgotten about BitchX. Good times. Thanks for the smile. :)

Re:Pandora WTF is that who cares? (1)

Sepodati (746220) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819149)

Do any of the other services you list have algorithms that match music you like similar to Pandora? My Pandora station has 15-20 artists across a wide variety of music genres, so the resulting stream is an interesting mix. If the services you listed do something similar, great. Otherwise, you don't know what you're missing.

Re:Pandora WTF is that who cares? (1)

gitano_dbs (1490853) | about a year and a half ago | (#42826941)

Pandora outside US its irrelevant, can not legally access from outside ;)

Blame Canada! (4, Insightful)

Chibi Merrow (226057) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819207)

It's not Pandora's fault. It's Canada's fault. Stop being a worthless internet crybaby and go get your local laws fixed so that Pandora can offer you service, and not be locked out by the local copyright monopolies.

Re:Blame Canada! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820527)

How did this get modded up? In Canada we have cancon restrictions for a very good reason and a lot of Canadians support that. If someone wants to be a player in our media, they need to support Canadian artists. When you live next to an Imperialistic entity like the USA, if you don't protect your culture, you will lose it.

Re:Blame Canada! (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820841)

Apparently the ridiculousness of forcing people by law to support their own culture is lost on you. If Canadians really cared, why does it have to be a law?

Yes, the imperialistic USA, forcing Canadians to buy US "culture". What a fucking maroon.

Re:Blame Canada! (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42821381)

As a canadian, I detest that the government attempts to force feed me "Canadian" content. I like what I like. Some of it may be of Canadian origin, and some may not. I don't need some government bureaucracy trying to tell me what music I should listen to, or video I should watch.

Stop being scared of the Americans. It makes you look pathetic.

Re:Blame Canada! (1)

Chibi Merrow (226057) | about a year and a half ago | (#42829157)

Except that it has nothing to do with "CanCon" restrictions and everything to do with the stupidity of copyright laws and licensing.

Also, the person I was responding to doesn't seem to give a flip about "protecting Canadian culture". I bet most other Canadians don't, either.

Re:Blame Canada! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42823773)

Just use Hola. You are probably breaking some grey law, but fuck it. The Canadian Government has been terribly ignorant about technology and the law.

Possibly ... (2)

dbscoach (1993982) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818815)

... we'll even be blessed with 'Television' in iOS7?

Re:Possibly ... (1)

kthreadd (1558445) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818851)

I think they rather sell you episodes of TV shows through iTunes.

Baby steps (2)

Overzeetop (214511) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819659)

Woah, there, buckaroo. That's the kind of thing that will be rolled out over the next decade. Everyone else will have it first, but I promise you that when Apple releases (ahem, allows) it, it will be like a breath of fresh air and TV will not just be TV - it will be wonderful again.

You'll have to excuse me. I need to go watch some youtube videos which are nothing but a fake staticy screen with the message that the content owner hasn't approved the viewing of the material on my device.

Deep system-level (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42818883)

"A team of developers came up with a tool that gives users deep system-level access to do things like install applications from third-party app stores, change the look and feel of iOS, and add new software features."

That's so deep that I'm too scared to even read it.

Re:Deep system-level (2)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818915)

Mortal man was not supposed to meddle with the font in the messages app.

This is ludicrous! (3, Insightful)

polyp2000 (444682) | about a year and a half ago | (#42818939)

Ok Jailbreaking iPhones is news i guess - although why someone would buy an iPhone in the first place with the intent on jailbreaking it is a mystery to me - surely thats an admission that the phone doesnt check all your boxes. irritation aside ....

they found some icons that arent currently in use by any apps. big f***king woop. Im sure you could find a bunch of unused icons on any windows , linux, amigaOS.

Just because its Apple - this is some sort of game changing discovery that merits a wordy article on cnet - only to appear on slashdot hours later.

Come on now are the moderators that bloody nerdy now that a glimpse of a new icon gives them a semi ?

N.

Re:This is ludicrous! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42818963)

It's really news about Android if you think about it.

They're trying to bring features that Android already has!

Oh, the irony ...

Re:This is ludicrous! (1)

alen (225700) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819455)

what features? hidden buttons?

there are dozens of radio apps for ios. apple just wants their own

Re:This is ludicrous! (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819533)

Yeah, it's not like Apple's decision to release a firstparty app for a popular service has ever had any newsworthy consequences.

Re:This is ludicrous! (1)

HycoWhit (833923) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820055)

Read past the first few sentences--there is more in iOS 6.1 than iRadio. "came up with a tool that gives users deep system-level access to do things like install applications from third-party app stores, change the look and feel of iOS, and add new software features" Sounds like Go Launcher type stuff.

Re:This is ludicrous! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42819157)

why someone would buy an iPhone in the first place with the intent on jailbreaking it is a mystery to me

I know right? That's why I refuse to buy a car until they release one that flies. I would never settle for anything less than perfect. I'd rather walk everywhere.

Re:This is ludicrous! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42819165)

Jailbreaking an iphone is so easy even a dummy like you could do it. So it is a perfectly reasonably consideration for a person who thinks this phone checks all my boxes but N and I can jailbreak it to do N.

Not altogether different from having to update an Android install in the absence of a carrier update. Except the automated tools to do it are usually better.

As far as the presence of a clue that Apple is going to add some new feature that many others already have, welcome to the world since 2006ish. We all realize that you are mad about it, but pretending that it is a new development just makes you look childish. Yes Apple doing stuff is big news, but not because the editors make it so. Because their audience does.

Re:This is ludicrous! (1)

PRMan (959735) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819191)

Jailbreaking a phone is NOT easy. That's why only a few smart kids are doing it. Yes, they may eventually make it easy for dummies, but there's no guarantees that an exploit will be found. It relies on bugs in the software that have to be poked at.

Re:This is ludicrous! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42819247)

Ok Jailbreaking iPhones is news i guess

Condescending, much?

although why someone would buy an iPhone in the first place with the intent on jailbreaking it is a mystery to me

That's because you're an idiot.

surely thats an admission that the phone doesnt check all your boxes.

Nothing checks all boxes; some check more than others.

irritation aside ....

Here's hoping your irritation is back.

Re:This is ludicrous! (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819347)

Im sure you could find a bunch of unused icons on any windows , linux, amigaOS.

So? There aren't many - or any - unused graphical resources in iOS. Each time Apple has added something and not immediately used it (such as double-resolution textures for the iBooks app) it has subsequently become part of an actual software release (iBooks on the iPhone 4).

Re:This is ludicrous! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42819349)

... surely thats an admission that the phone doesnt check all your boxes.

This is why they are implementing radio buttons.

Re:This is ludicrous! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42822531)

Genius. Well played, Sir AC.

Re:This is ludicrous! (3, Insightful)

gutnor (872759) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819403)

why someone would buy an iPhone in the first place with the intent on jailbreaking it is a mystery to me

That's called expectations clash with real life. Other examples:

Why would you buy an Android phone with the intention of installing cyanogen on it ?
Why would you buy a Windows computer with the intention of installing Linux ?
Why would you get your internet connection from an ISP and access content from censured source using VPN ?
Why would you buy a flat with the intention of refurbishing it ?
Why would you vote for a politician and then lobby to get some of his decisions overturned ?

Re:This is ludicrous! (4, Insightful)

sootman (158191) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819695)

> why someone would buy an iPhone in the first place with the
> intent on jailbreaking it is a mystery to me - surely thats an
> admission that the phone doesnt check all your boxes

I can't believe you got a +5 for that. You're not very imaginative, are you? Here's a possibility: maybe NO phone "checks all your boxes" but the iPhone comes closest? Maybe you like a competing phone a lot, but a jailbroken iPhone is even better?!? Maybe you like iPhones just fine, and jailbreaking them makes them even more fantastic?

Have you ever in your life bought something and then changed it to make it suit you more? OH MY GOD!

Re:This is ludicrous! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42825365)

Actually the Jobsian reality distortion field just makes you think you have jailbroken the iPhone.

Aw man, what a letdown. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42818951)

Here I was hoping this was going to be Apple spying on people in their browsers on mobile by injecting hidden radio buttons.
Why? Who knows, they could easily just scrape the entire page state.
Stupid Apple, can't even not spy on people right.

Re:Aw man, what a letdown. (2)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819449)

I think you've got them confused with Google.

Dev work done before a business deal (2)

alen (225700) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819031)

Amazing that apple would develop a potential service to be ready to go the day a business deal is signed. And keep the code hidden until a deal is signed

Simply amazing

What are the first three words? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42819143)

"CNET is reporting..........."

Radio buttons....really? CNET is like that retarded cousin who plays console videogames all day long, chats in Yahoo, and he thinks that makes him a computer haxor.

CNET owns GameFAQs (2)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819745)

CNET is like that retarded cousin who plays console videogames all day long

Like? You mean it is. CNET owns GameFAQs, and it bought Giant Bomb, which began as a purportedly more ethical competitor to CNET's GameSpot.

Stay tuned for news of Apple's foray into B&D (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42819713)

discovered by researchers who found repeated references to "Submit" in Apple script.

If I were Apple... (3, Interesting)

sootman (158191) | about a year and a half ago | (#42819717)

... I'd dedicate one measly megabyte of iOS to random icons and product ID strings just to fuck with people. Seriously, it'd be fun. For every one feature accurately hinted at there would be ten bogus ones.

Radio button confusion. (1)

GuB-42 (2483988) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820201)

First thing I thought after reading the header : "What ?! Didn't iOS already have radio buttons (the GUI element) ?".

Re:Radio button confusion. (1)

neminem (561346) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820935)

Yep, that was my thought. "How is it news that someone discovered iOS had a couple hidden UI elements? They must toggle on some pretty spectacular option...

Re:Radio button confusion. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820973)

+1000

It doesn't (1)

Frankie70 (803801) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821101)

Actually you don't have the Radio Button UI Element in IOS. You have to use third party ones like the ones from mobisoftinfotech.

Re:It doesn't (1)

BasilBrush (643681) | about a year and a half ago | (#42829003)

Well, the segmented control, and the tab bar control are both types of radio button.

iOS just doesn't have the vertically stacked circular radio button style.

Like Nokia Music's free Mix Radio service? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820667)

Which is also BTW, advert free.

It's supported by a $4/month upgrade to unlimited high quality *offline* downloads.

Internet radio ? No thanks (2)

ctrl-alt-canc (977108) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820727)

I tried it on my car: I don't have a iPhone but an android smartphone, but I guess the results shouldn't be that different. Consumption of bandwidth is huge and reception is crappy, since on my commuting path I don't have a reliable UMTS/GSM data coverage. Furthermore one hour of reception drains about 50% of the battery.
On the other side, my Sony shortwave receiver needs 4 AA cells every two weeks, and can pick up plenty of stations. Unfortunately BBC, Voice of America and other broadcasters are shutting down their shortwave facilities, since they claim that internet is the future...sigh.

Re:Internet radio ? No thanks (2)

isorox (205688) | about a year and a half ago | (#42822789)

I tried it on my car: I don't have a iPhone but an android smartphone, but I guess the results shouldn't be that different.
Consumption of bandwidth is huge and reception is crappy, since on my commuting path I don't have a reliable UMTS/GSM data coverage. Furthermore one hour of reception drains about 50% of the battery.

On the other side, my Sony shortwave receiver needs 4 AA cells every two weeks, and can pick up plenty of stations. Unfortunately BBC, Voice of America and other broadcasters are shutting down their shortwave facilities, since they claim that internet is the future...sigh.

It' amazing how few people in target BBC areas have radios now, compared with access to smartphones and the internet.

BBC R&D did a fair bit of work on DRM, which was obviously doomed to failure. All the downsides of shortwave, coupled with the fact noone has a receiver. And it's French.

Re:Internet radio ? No thanks (1)

filthpickle (1199927) | about a year and a half ago | (#42822805)

Not sure if you are just pointing out that you hacked that together or not...but this isn't over the air radio either.

Re:Internet radio ? No thanks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42829711)

I tried it on my car: I don't have a iPhone but an android smartphone, but I guess the results shouldn't be that different.
Consumption of bandwidth is huge and reception is crappy, since on my commuting path I don't have a reliable UMTS/GSM data coverage. Furthermore one hour of reception drains about 50% of the battery.

Meanwhile for other people with more favorable commutes, reception is great and battery use is less (because mobiles reduce tx power when they have a good connection). Not that battery use matters in your case, since it's in your fricking car and may as well be on the charger! (Different for cycle or public transportation commutes, naturally.)

Consumption of bandwidth is on the order of 100kbit/s ~= 50MB/h or just over 1GB/month if you use it for one hour every weekday -- not really huge IMO, but I guess it depends how much you listen to and hard you let your carrier rape you...

So yeah, it's bad for you -- but I trust you don't make the mistake of assuming what's true for your circumstances is true for everyone.

On the other side, my Sony shortwave receiver needs 4 AA cells every two weeks, and can pick up plenty of stations. Unfortunately BBC, Voice of America and other broadcasters are shutting down their shortwave facilities, since they claim that internet is the future...sigh.

Well, then -- shortwave's better for you (and some other people, yes), but is useful to far fewer than it used to be. At some point, it stops making sense to run those transmitters for the shrinking audience. Do you claim we're objectively not to that point yet (and if so, what numbers are you looking at that the Beeb offices don't have?!), or are you just irked because it happened while you're still in that audience?

STOP CALLING WINDOWS "PC", YOU RETARD! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820955)

Enough said.

Fuckin' iTards. Too stupid to live.

Big Deal (1)

Frankie70 (803801) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821047)

Here's a tutorial on how to create radio buttons on IOS. You can create as many as you want - and you don't need to jail break anything - http://www.mobisoftinfotech.com/blog/iphone/iphone-uibutton-tutorial-radio-buttons/ [mobisoftinfotech.com]

Re:Big Deal (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about a year and a half ago | (#42824603)

Well I was confused, as a non iphone user. I was thinking "how the hell can someone overlook a button, it's right there on the device that any fool can see". Had to read some confusing sites full of apple-speak before I realized that "button" meant "graphical icon". And the whole story is nothing more than "hey, some old cruft was left around in flash instead of being removed, news at 11!"

So...more like iHeartRadio? (1)

chronokitsune3233 (2170390) | about a year and a half ago | (#42824859)

'The buttons hint at Apple's much-rumored radio service, a product that will let people stream music much like they do on the popular Pandora service, but with deep ties to Apple's iTunes library.'

So, it's not really like Pandora at all, and more like Google Play Music, which lets you keep your music in Google's cloud and stream it to your mobile device?

Or are we talking something similar to an actual radio's function on your phone, letting you select your station and everything, like iHeartRadio does?

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