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Why Google Needs To Launch the Chromebook Pixel

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the the-extra-k-makes-4k-acceptable dept.

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DavidGilbert99 writes "A leaked video of the purported Google Chromebook Pixel laptop has stirred quite a lot of interest but whether or not the laptop in the video is real, Google needs to launch it in order to kickstart the Chrome OS platform." A high-res screen would be welcome, but Google seems to be doing alright with Chromebook sales right now. Warning: IB Times has ads with autoplaying videos and sound; you have been warned.

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Why? (4, Interesting)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820151)

The article doesn't make a particularly good case for why ChromeOS would suddenly become attractive on a high-resolution touchscreen. Especially given that it's built around Google's not-touch-optimised web apps.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820213)

Um... have you seen the tablet-optimized Google sites? You touch the /screen/ on tablets.

Re:Why? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820243)

I'm sitting in my computer chair right now, and know what? I'm completely, totally, and utterly naked. What say you?

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820723)

Gesundheit.

Re:Why? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820873)

I can see that. Meet me in HR in five minutes. - Your boss

Re:Why? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820319)

I could give half a fuck about the OS that it comes loaded with, particularly since I'll end up wiping it and installing some more conventional Linux distro on day one. I just want an affordable laptop with a high-DPI panel. I don't think it's particularly unreasonable to ask that my laptop panel have a DPI that's on the same order of magnitude as my cellphone.

Re:Why? (1)

fast turtle (1118037) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820703)

From what I'm seeing, the problem is that Most Android and iOS devices do not have expandable memory (USB/SD/HCSD/MHCSD) ports and yes I have a Nexus 7 (32gb Nvidia Tegra) and w/o access to external media or the ability to boot the damn things from external you're not going to be able to put anything except what the OS allows on them.

This is one of the biggest reasons I'm seriously looking at a Win Pro tablet. Yes it's a stupid problem but if the only way I can get something that allows me to install an alternative OS (Linux/BSD/BeoS) then I'll have to vote with my wallet. The alternative is a locked down ecosystem as we're already seeing from Apple and Google has now decided to go the same route with their Nexus Tablet.

Re:Why? (1)

TheCRAIGGERS (909877) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820847)

I'm not sure what you're talking about; the article and the person you were replying to are both about Chromebooks, which are laptops, not tablets.

They have plenty of ports / expandable memory and are quite easy to install your own flavor of Linux on.

Re:Why? (4, Informative)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821185)

The Acer C7 Chromebook does. RAM and HD can be changed.

The Nexus 7 can load whatever OS you like, same thing with a the Chromebook. You can download the files and flash them all you like or use USB OTG if you must have external storage.

You are either Trolling or extremely ignorant.

Nexus 7 supports external USB (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42822407)

Get a $3 USB OTG (On The Go) cable. You can read from a USB drive with a $2 app and read/write if you root/jailbreak it.

Re:Why? (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about a year and a half ago | (#42822551)

They would update their apps for touch, naturally. The main attraction is the resolution though, not touch. That's why you still get a keyboard and trackpad.

Re:Why? (-1, Offtopic)

osragati (2835751) | about a year and a half ago | (#42823679)

http://www.cloud65.com/ [cloud65.com] my co-worker's sister-in-law makes $64 an hour on the computer. She has been without work for 10 months but last month her paycheck was $12141 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read more here

I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (3, Interesting)

crazyjj (2598719) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820157)

Every now and then I see one of these ChromeOS stories, and it reminds me that ChromeOS exists. I'm not being catty there, I mean that I really do literally forget about it. That's probably not a good sign for Google. It not only hasn't made a big splash, it's barely made ANY splash at all.

What? (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820231)

Best buy advertises and sells Chromebooks. My mom has one and loves it compared to her slow netbook.

Re:What? (4, Insightful)

zoid.com (311775) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820451)

I agree... Chromebooks are great for parents :) They just work and tech support is nil.

Re:What? (1)

swillden (191260) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821307)

I agree... Chromebooks are great for parents :) They just work and tech support is nil.

The one downside is that they're small, which makes them difficult for older people. I'd buy one for my father-in-law in a heartbeat if they were larger; I'm actually considering installing ChromiumOS on the 15" Acer that I gave him last year. Right now it's running Ubuntu in a fairly locked-down configuration, but he still manages to mess it up from time to time (most recently he made the Chrome window larger than the screen and moved it so all the controls were off the screen). If there were a cheap 15" Chromebook with a low-to-moderate resolution screen, I'd order one for him right now.

Re:What? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820627)

Best buy is on the verge of bankruptcy. They're no more relevant than a Microsoft Store.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820255)

Except that Chrome OS has been the top selling laptop on Amazon for many months now.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820285)

It's best for Google if they just quietly sell the things and don't get people too hooked on "ChromeOS". What google really wants to sell is "Chrome". Then one day when Chrome on Android reaches parity with Chrome on PC they can discontinue ChromeOS and play up the fact that Chrome is in their Android-based ChromeOS replacements. It's really not in Google's best interest to maintain so many Linux distributions. ChromeOS has only one reason to exist, Chrome on Android still sucks. It has improved significantly, or so I hear, it won't run on my antique tablet.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820385)

"Chrome on Android still sucks"

"It has improved significantly, or so I hear"

Those two statements are contradictory.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820469)

Not necessarily.

Let's say on the scale from 0 to 10, 5 is the threshold for "not sucking." If Chrome on Android was a 1 and is now a 4, Chrome on Android would still suck, yet it has improved significantly.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820431)

Your tablet - and my older Android phone - are both disposable. They're going to age out of the marketplace, if for no other reason than our changing expectations for devices. Your tablet's battery will degrade into uselessness and is doubtless not replaceable. My phone does not support LTE. In the meantime, Chrome exists and functions pretty well on ICS and Jelly Bean and will presumably work on the preponderance of hardware made since 2012 and will become dominant and common.

I actually use Firefox on Android, and it WILL run on older hardware. Many standard addons work as well. The biggest problem seems to be that a lot of mobile sites are coded with the assumption that the viewer is using Webkit, so on some sites I wind up having a better experience with the full site than the mobile one.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821211)

Not replaceable?

For a slashdotter? You open the damn thing and solder in a new one. Kids these days.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

ichthyoboy (1167379) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821901)

I actually use Firefox on Android, and it WILL run on older hardware. Many standard addons work as well. The biggest problem seems to be that a lot of mobile sites are coded with the assumption that the viewer is using Webkit, so on some sites I wind up having a better experience with the full site than the mobile one.

Like Slashdot? The mobile site is terrible...

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

symbolset (646467) | about a year and a half ago | (#42823027)

The popover to try the new mobile format is delightful, as it can't remember that you said no the last thousand times. It just merrily pops up to ask again EVERY FREAKING TIME.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820291)

Every now and then I see one of these ChromeOS stories, and it reminds me that ChromeOS exists. I'm not being catty there, I mean that I really do literally forget about it. That's probably not a good sign for Google. It not only hasn't made a big splash, it's barely made ANY splash at all.

You can't seriously think that whether a product has made much impact on you determines its success in the wider market. That suggests a serious disconnect with reality.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (2)

hedwards (940851) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820335)

No, but who is buying these things? Which is sort of the point. They don't fill any particular needs, they don't get any press either here or on regular web sites. I've never actually seen one anywhere. So, the GP is making a point that wherever they're being sold, it probably isn't in the general market. Or the owners aren't taking them outside for use.

I'm wondering if the hardware isn't just being repurposed for other things.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (2)

somersault (912633) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820541)

Or the owners aren't taking them outside for use

Why would you expect them to be outside? And do you always check what laptop everyone around you is using? My mum's laptop never leaves her house, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist or have any uses. My Ultrabook rarely leaves my desk at work, because I already have tablets and a desktop at home. I rarely take either of my tablets outside. My phone does the job just fine then.

They don't fill any particular needs

When tablets first came out everyone (including me) said they don't really fill a particular need. But they are very popular now. They aren't "needed", but they are much more convenient than a full laptop for the majority of browsing, email and IM needs, reading books, watching YouTube, etc.

This Chromebook isn't going to be much use for reading books, but as it comes with a full sized keyboard, it nicely fills in the gap for people who want something very cheap and portable with good battery life for browsing, but still comfortable for writing large emails, doing a lot of instant messaging, writing essays, etc. That is a whole lot of people.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

hedwards (940851) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820717)

If they're selling well, you would expect for at least some of them to be taken outside. If you just want something to check email and stuff like that, you're better off buying something that's used.

And yes, the fact that I'm not seeing them is a problem for them. Windows laptop manufacturers can get away with that because Windows is a commonly used OS and they're just competing with other Windows laptop manufacturers. Apple can't as much because they need people to know that they're product is being used. ChromeOS OTOH, isn't getting any attention and adding the Pixel isn't going to change that if it isn't clear that people are using it.

And yes, when tablets first came out they didn't fill any particular needs. Many years later, Apple figured out how to make them useful and convince people to pay for them. At which point many more uses came into existence. In large part because there was money to justify creating applications just for it. ChromeOS doesn't look to be going that way because nobody knows where these machines are or what they're doing.

if it never leaves your desk at work (1)

Chirs (87576) | about a year and a half ago | (#42823217)

why are you paying extra for an ultrabook, where the emphasis is on portability?

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

Petaris (771874) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820679)

Schools are buying them. More and more all the time as they are a good, affordable, and managed solution for a lot of uses.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

Albanach (527650) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820761)

No, but who is buying these things?

Well, you've probably heard of the iPad. I'm pretty sure there are now millions of folk using tablets as their primary computing device.

Some folk have probably noticed the lack of a keyboard can be an issue. For anyone using an android tablet, a chromebook would probably be a pretty decent complement and between the two devices you would have a nice complete package. Everything you work on is automagically on both devices, there's next to no management required. It just works.

If my parents need a new computer in the future, I'd have little hesitation in recommending one to them.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

mcspoo (933106) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820803)

Chromebooks are actually quite good for newbs. As long as they have "one of us" to set it up, connect to their wireless (home or public), they are absolutely perfect for people who use computers for nothing for than web browsing, facebooking and email. The price point works for lower income users, and there is a growing movement to bring them into public/community service like libraries and schools. That's probably where the majority of sales are coming from.

The touch enable is probably just a "MS did it, so did we." type thing. The Chromebook is probably more usable than a Surface anyhow...

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42821363)

I actually use my Chromebook pretty often! I use it mostly for college work, having a night lightweight machine that is dedicated towards web stuff is actually a nice supplement. For me there are two things that a laptop needs to get right: 1) be light weight, 2) have extremely good battery life. The Samsung Chromebook does both of those pretty nicely.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

crazyjj (2598719) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820439)

You can't seriously think that whether a product has made much impact on you determines its success in the wider market.

No, I just think it's probably a bad sign when a highly tech oriented person has to periodically be reminded that your tech product even exists.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (3, Insightful)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820297)

you mean buy a product that -needs- to always be connected to the public net, is written by the premier privacy snooper in the world and you have no true idea what's going on behind the scenes?

gee, I can't imagine why its not more popular.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (4, Insightful)

somersault (912633) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820393)

It's the top selling laptop on both Amazon.com and Amazon.co.uk right now. You've heard of Amazon, right? You know, the number 1 online retailer. Just how much more do you need before you define something as "popular", Mr Snarky?

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820603)

Well, I'm not trying to be snarky, but my definition of "popular" is seeing one of these beasts in the wild. It's yet to happen. And I work in prime habitat for laptop computers (university). Maybe I need to pay closer attention, because the sales certainly look good. Perhaps they blend in too easily with the other machines, or they aren't suited for the kind of activities here.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

swillden (191260) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821443)

Well, I'm not trying to be snarky, but my definition of "popular" is seeing one of these beasts in the wild. It's yet to happen.

Are you sure you haven't? The Acer doesn't look much different from a typical netbook, and the new Samsung looks a lot like a MacBook Air. There are a lot of both (Airs and Chromebooks) around my office (I work for Google) and it takes more than a quick glance to distinguish them if you can't see the Apple logo.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

BitwizeGHC (145393) | about a year and a half ago | (#42822167)

That's pretty much grounds for trademark and patent litigation right there.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

swillden (191260) | about a year and a half ago | (#42823529)

Because it's thin, silver and small?

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820653)

I agree with the OP. I didn't even know that the ChromeBook had been launched until I saw a story about sales stats. I work in IT, I own an Android phone - it's not as if I'm sitting in a hole somewhere. It doesn't really matter what Amazon manage to sell - that doesn't make something popular, it just means someone's found the right price point.

(BTW - do you work for Amazon?)

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820795)

Inside sources have also revealed that it's the number one returned product on amazon.com. You won't hear THAT on the the evening news. Why are videos critical of Amazon.com or the Chromebook taken down almost immediately from youtube? Both Google and Amazon deny any wrongdoing. Do you trust them?

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

Sepodati (746220) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821895)

I don't know about Youtube, but there are 140-odd 1 or 2-star reviews just on a Samsung model on Amazon. I'm sure other models are similar. Certainly enough to make an educated decision.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

Sheik Yerbouti (96423) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821579)

I am calling bullshit on that number one thing I think it's outright fake. I think they are paying Amazon for that to make it appear popular I don't think it's real. I work in IT everyone I know is seriously in to technology and gadgets and I have seen zero of these in the wild anywhere and no one I know is talking about them at all. I think this is all a bullshit PR campaign thought up by an ad agency in fact the suspicious number of slashdot stories around the chrome book makes me think they are getting paid as part of this deal in other words this story is a BS slashvertisement and a good percentage of the people here and perhaps even you are paid astroturfers.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820471)

It doesn't need to be connected at all times. It has offline document support, and you can browse anything you've got on the harddrive or a flash drive (including videos).

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820515)

so...xbox written by facebook and built by Apple?

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820845)

Chromeos is open source. You can download and build it yourself.

Rooting a chromebook entails flipping a switch or holding down a special key while it boots. At which point you can replace the entire OS yourself, or not.

People run these dual boot, two separate OS images running on two separate X servers and hot key switch between them. I currently have mine set up to switch fvwm displays between Chrome and a chrooted gentoo.

And the chromebook also has local storage, or you can store things in the cloud if you prefer.

So you do know what is going on. You don't need to always be connected and Google can't snoop on you if you don't want them to.

Are you just ignorant and having a knee-jerk reaction, or are you being paid by Microsoft? Slashdot seems to consist of 50% of each these days. I miss the days when it was 100% ignorant knee jerk reactions.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about a year and a half ago | (#42822605)

Not true, you can do offline tasks like responding to email or writing documents without an internet connection. It will simply re-sync next time you are online, much like a phone.

Chromebooks are popular because people want a simple laptop that "just works" and has all the services they use (browsing, Skype, document editing, email). No anti-virus to worry about, low cost, good hardware and long battery life. They are what Netbooks should have been, except that they shipped with Windows XP or a terrible custom Linux distro. I know ChromeOS is a custom Linux distro, the difference is that it isn't terrible.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42822639)

I had this notion of web apps being very inconvenient "because you need to be connected at all times". With HTML5 localStorage and caching, it's just not true. Apps are loaded through the browser and saved, just like a native app. The difference is that when you are connected you can connect to the back end of the app, automatically update to the newest version of the software etc. As long as developers develop with offline mode in mind, there's no reason why you should need to always be connected.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820329)

I kinda agree.com I've got a variety of computers including a netbook, with a ssd and Wi-Fi off I get 7.5h battery and with Wi-Fi I get around 6h. I've never needed more then 120G storageon it and I'm not required to have an internet connection if I don't want to. It imo runs fast, boots in under 15sec. Runs everything I want it too, what does chromeos offer that a netbook for the same price can't? Send chromeos actually offers significantly less in terms of applications.

UDL

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820353)

Just because it hasn't made a splash among people who need high-tech workstations doesn't mean it hasn't made a splash. Remember it was the OS of the best selling laptop this past holiday season. The article saying that this needs to be "kickstarted" is a bit misleading.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1)

FatdogHaiku (978357) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820683)

While it may have had good sales during the Christmas shopping season, I'd like to know the return rate after people found out it was not a $150 laptop but a internet dependent device. I know people that returned Kindle Fire units when they found it was more of a sales portal for Amazon than an actual tablet. I know people that bought e-book readers when they did not even have WiFi in the home... Damn... I need to meet smarter people... But my point is most of the sales are made to people that don't actually understand what they bought. While Chrome the browser is doing great, ChromeOS has not even warranted a label in the stats tables I'm seeing.
http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php [w3counter.com]

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (4, Insightful)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820365)

I completely forget about Exxon unless it's in a news story, but they seem to be doing ok without me. Something about 7 billion other humans on the planet.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820403)

I have a Chromebook and it's really great! My girlfriend also has one, and I use ssh to log into my servers and do work, and she uses online applications like sharelatex.com and the browser-versions of Geogebra to write worksheets for her math students.

More and more of our work can be done just as easily in a browser as not, and less and less requires a desktop or a "fully-functional" laptop. Really the only thing I have a desktop for is games and running resource-intensive programs.

Re:I really keep forgetting about ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820709)

A friend picked one up a couple of days ago and likes it. He's having a better experience than I am on an Android Transformer which is a landscape device running an OS that displays some key OS screens in portrait-only.

So? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820217)

Why do videos like this generate so much interest? It's just another laptop. Looks like every laptop that came before it. Throw in a touchscreen, whatever. It's still just a big hinged rectangle. Nothing new here.

Re:So? (1)

partyguerrilla (1597357) | about a year and a half ago | (#42822415)

Malibu Stacy with new hat!

Android apps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820245)

Perhaps it would be more useful if it could load and run Android apps?

Only one thing I find interesting about it (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820287)

It is a laptop that doesn't come with an os from Apple or Microsoft.
Yes, I know there are others, but every time I see a new non-AppleSoft machine being sold it makes me glad.

Other than that- yeah, nothing that seems all that compelling to me.

Screw this (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820295)

Hey remember when /. didn't link to sites that seem to be obvious linkbate?

Re:Screw this (2)

Anarchduke (1551707) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820421)

not really

Reason for Chrome OS (0)

parallel_prankster (1455313) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820347)

I always thought that Android was more of a project by Google just to make sure Apple has some competition in the market. Android was extremely sh*tty for a long time. Over time Android is no longer going to be supported by Google. I think Google does not care so much about open source. Its main goal is to gravitate people towards Linux-like OSes and ultimately make them use Chrome OS. That is the OS that they are going to put their heart and soul in. Think about it, whatever category you put Chrome OS in - mobile (Android), desktop/tablet(linux variants), there is always some other open-source non-Windows, non-MAC OS. Why would they need to make a new one?

Re:Reason for Chrome OS (1)

JonBoy47 (2813759) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820913)

Android was the product of an "Oh $#!+" moment when Google realized the world was migrating to mobile access of the internet, and they had no presence in that space. They did not want to be beholden to Apple for access to their mobile user-base. Google's effort in the mobile space is to generate a user-base more or less locked into Google's family of services. They're much more able to get their fingers into a platform that they control, and are thus better able to monetize the user-base's interaction with their services. Google will eventually and inevitably merge Android and ChromeOS into a single product line. Similarly, Apple will ultimately merge OS X and iOS. Just like Micro$0ft has basically already done with Windows 8.

Re: Reason for Chrome OS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42821625)

Careful, statements like that make micro$oft sound like an innovator, we've burned people at the stake for less.

Chromebooks outselling Windows 8 PCs (4, Interesting)

Enderandrew (866215) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820415)

Google doesn't need new hardware for Chrome OS. They just need more marketing, because they're already doing well.

Imagine for a moment that you're a small business, such as a plumbing company. You don't have a full-time IT staff. You have maybe 10-30 computers.

You're probably buying your PCs retail. Then you have to buy a Windows server, and pay someone to set it up. You buy CALs for users and computers. A second back-up server is probably out of your budget. Off-site data back-ups are probably out of the question.

Who administers your network to keep it safe and secure? How to do you prevent malware and viruses? Administer your email?

You pay a bunch upfront, and then never know when you need to bring in an IT company to fix things. Your IT budget is completely unknown.

Or, you get Chromebooks. Google used to offer packages to lease them for $25/$30 a month. Not sure if they still do, but you can get them for $250 if not. You don't have to have your own server, unless you need Citrix for proprietary Windows apps. Your data is in the cloud. You don't have to run a mail server. Anyone can sit at any PC and instantly have their work. You don't pay an IT staff. You can budget easily for IT costs.

http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/business/devices/ [google.com]

Re:Chromebooks outselling Windows 8 PCs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820655)

Really? Are they out selling Windows 8 PCs?

I'd love to see a citation for that, as neither company has revealed sales figures.

Re:Chromebooks outselling Windows 8 PCs (1)

Squash (2258) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820877)

the Chromebook has been Amazon's best selling laptop for a while now. That doesn't mean its outselling all Windows 8 PCs, but at least on Amazon its outselling any particular Windows 8 PC. Take that as you will, since the Apple TV is also on that page. http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics/zgbs/electronics/ref=zg_bs_electronics_home_all [amazon.com]

Re:Chromebooks outselling Windows 8 PCs (2)

squiggleslash (241428) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821035)

I suspect the OP's comment is a combination of wishful thinking combined with misreading headlines. What is true is that:

1. The ChromeBook is doing well on Amazon. The fact it's topping the list of laptops shouldn't be seen as meaning that ChromeBooks in general are doing better than Windows 8 laptops because there are many, many, of the latter, and very few of the former.

2. Acer is saying that their ChromeBook is selling better than their Windows 8 machines. Again, that has to be balanced by context, Acer is one manufacturer, there are many more manufacturers of Windows laptops than ChromeBook laptops (and as such sales of ChromeBooks are split across fewer manufacturers)

There's no doubt the ChromeBook is doing extraodinarily well for a device that nobody has ever heard of. Actually, it'd be doing well even if it was well heard of. It's clearly a major threat to Microsoft and Apple right now. It may well be out-performing Apple's laptop sales already. But it's certainly not the top selling platform, even if some individual devices are top selling laptops.

Re:Chromebooks outselling Windows 8 PCs (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821089)

A combination of three things.

1. Amazon lists Chromebooks outselling Windows 8 PCs.As the largest online retailer, they reflect larger trends.
2. Acer outright says Chromebooks are outselling Windows 8 PCs.
3. HP said in response to these sales trends they're cutting back Windows 8 models and putting forth a Chromebook model suddenly.

Re:Chromebooks outselling Windows 8 PCs (1)

mystikkman (1487801) | about a year and a half ago | (#42822105)

A combination of three things.

1. Amazon lists Chromebooks outselling Windows 8 PCs.As the largest online retailer, they reflect larger trends.
2. Acer outright says Chromebooks are outselling Windows 8 PCs.
3. HP said in response to these sales trends they're cutting back Windows 8 models and putting forth a Chromebook model suddenly.

1) Amazon doesn't really reflect anything in the broader market. For example, in the past Nokia Lumia windows phones were leading Amazon. Also, being the bestseller is way different from outselling others.
2) Acer did not say anything even close to that. 5% of 10% of their Acer sales is nowhere close to "Chromebooks are outselling Windows 8 PCs" Please stop making up things.
3)Yes, it takes a few weeks to manufacture and put a new OS model on shelves. Really?

Shilling much? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42822141)

This shill post is +5? Why is Slashdot celebrating a completely closed device that keeps your data hostage in the cloud and who can disable your account with no notice for no reason? Chromebooks' 100GB in the cloud is no longer free after 2 years and it comes with a pathetic 16GB. Even Windows is more "free" than this. And this is ignoring the other blatant inaccuracies in your post.

Re:Chromebooks outselling Windows 8 PCs (1)

guises (2423402) | about a year and a half ago | (#42822191)

Arr... but the hardware's the only appealing part of this. Google has been great for hardware with their Nexus line, providing some really excellent devices at really good prices. This laptop would probably cost around half of what Apple charges (based on the price differentiation that they've managed with iDevices) for hardware that's at least as good. Put SUSE on it (or the flavor of your choice) and you have something really great.

Interesting, yet lacking in details.. (4, Interesting)

Squash (2258) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820449)

Sure, the high res screen would be nice. If I could ask for a single upgrade for my Samsung Chromebook, that would be it.. But the last few Chromebooks released have been disappointing to me, and I'm skeptical that this would be any better.

I'd say Samsung got it right with the Exynos CPU, and ChromeOS runs very, very well on ARM. Between my home and business we've replaced 3 laptops with Chromebooks, but it seems like the Samsung model is the only one that I would even consider. If you want a cheap feeling, heavy, loud, low battery life laptop, there's plenty of those to choose from. If you want something that runs cool, runs for long time, doesn't annoy you with fans, and doesn't burn your lap, then the Samsung is your only pick.

Google, if you want to release a "powerhouse" chromebook, try the Exynos quad core, and throw in some more memory. Exynos supports 40 bit memory addressing, so the 4G barrier doesn't really exist in a practical sense (32 bit address space exposed to each processes, chrome is multi-process).

Re:Interesting, yet lacking in details.. (1)

darjen (879890) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821477)

I've been seriously considering getting a Chromebook as a second general purpose device for my wife. She's always on my home desktop doing facebook, gmail, pinterest, etc. I also have an iPad, and the number one thing I like about it is the high resolution. I use it mostly for reading, maybe a game now and then, and it's hard to go back to reading text on a regular computer screen after using it for a while. I think a higher res screen would be great.

The samsung one looks nice, but I'm kind of leaning towards the Acer model. From the reviews I've read it is faster, and you can easily swap in 4gb memory and a big ssd.

Re:Interesting, yet lacking in details.. (1)

Squash (2258) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821777)

If you're leaving it as ChromeOS, you'll regret buying the Acer. Its a lot heavier, requires active cooling, and the battery life is ass. Basically, its a cheap x86 laptop, with the normal issues of a cheap x86 laptop. The little bit of speed you pick up will pale in comparison to how much nicer the Samsung is to use in the real world. She won't notice that Facebook loads .001 seconds quicker, but she will notice her lap getting warm, the fan running constantly, and having to take her power cord with her every time she brings it somewhere.

Screw ChromeOS (4, Insightful)

DF5JT (589002) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820487)

I want that screen in a shiny, non-Apple laptop and load it with Linux.

Re:Screw ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820839)

What a waste that would be. Linux is for low lifes. ChromeOS FTW!!

Re:Screw ChromeOS (1)

Lazere (2809091) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821509)

Uhm... Obvious troll is obvious?

Re:Screw ChromeOS (1)

blind biker (1066130) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821695)

Screw ChromeOS
I want that screen in a shiny, non-Apple laptop and load it with Linux.

Not trolling but 100% serious: that is exactly why Google is reluctant to release it.

Re:Screw ChromeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42821707)

This is my greatest hope for a high rez laptop on the cheap. I'm never gonna buy a macbook pro and equip it with a retina display just to rip osx off of it, but at the right price point I will buy a chromebook and put whatever flavor of linux suits me best.

Re:Screw ChromeOS (1)

loufoque (1400831) | about a year and a half ago | (#42824027)

Last I checked none of the Linux desktops have good support for very high-definition displays.
You'll either end up with very small unreadable text or badly engrossed text looking like shit.

Still sussing out Chrome OS (2)

obarthelemy (160321) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820507)

I installed a Chrome OS VM just yesterday to see what all the fuss was about.

It seems nice enough to surf and use web apps. I haven't really tried offline yet, but if they say it works, it probably does.

Were it does come apart is in any old-school scenario: I could find no way to access my network shares, to play non-local media content (except running a web server and presenting the content as Flash or HTML5), no DLNA client nor server.

I don't really see how Chrome OS is superior to Android. Is there anything Chrome OS does that Android doesn't ? 'coz there's sure plenty that Android does but Chrome OS doesn't !

Re:Still sussing out Chrome OS (1)

Squash (2258) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820651)

You do need to expose your shares as HTTP, but you probably don't need to wrap them in a flash player. The built-in media player supports several formats, h264 included. I use FreeNAS as my file server and a few minutes with that got me a nice web accessible, directory-indexed media share. It isn't perfect but it does the job with minimal fuss.

And what Chromebooks can do that tablets can't do: Replace traditional laptops. You can actually do real work with these things.

Re:Still sussing out Chrome OS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42821071)

Chrome OS is designed for desktop devices, Android for touch devices. Google is under the assumption that most people who have used Windows 7 and Chrome and just want a laptop with a keyboard for web browsing would be better served by a desktop OS. Since the sales are taking off and Windows 8 seems flat, that strategy appears to be working.

Re:Still sussing out Chrome OS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42821255)

Is there anything Chrome OS does that Android doesn't ?

One word: updates.

Re:Still sussing out Chrome OS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42822405)

ChromeOS gets updates, Android doesn't.

Re:Still sussing out Chrome OS (1)

loufoque (1400831) | about a year and a half ago | (#42824055)

Android is a mess based on Java that their acquired from another company.
ChromeOS is an innovative operative system built by the research division at Google, using the same technology as Google Chrome, the world's most popular web browser.

Foiled again, auto-playing ads! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42820511)

Warning: IB Times has ads with autoplaying videos and sound; you have been warned.

Not if you've got a properly-equipped web browser!

By which I mean "a browser where Flash promptly crashes for some reason as soon as it tries to play video". Damnit, Flash works on my home computer...

See my works ye mighty and despair (1)

elysiuan (762931) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820623)

One of them is some sort of television feed. This plays right along with the ad videos! I feel like Ozymandias in Watchmen with my wall of a hundreds of video screens on that page.

Re:Foiled again, auto-playing ads! (2)

cyber-vandal (148830) | about a year and a half ago | (#42820837)

Adblock and Flashblock are your best friends.

Don't want (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821055)

I'm sure I'm not the person they want to sell to but last time looked it offered nothing for doing development. Excluding that they live in a magical world where you always have a net connection. Even in a well connected city that's not always the case. I'll stick with OS X or Linux which does everything chrome os does and more.

Chromebook Pixel (1)

ekim04tteckaz (2629757) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821095)

This device looks great, with the sweet screen, that means there is a need for a decent CPU + GPU combination, also hopefully it means that this device will support more, and hopefully higher speed memory. Up to 8 gigs of Ram, a great touch-enabled screen, a moderately powerful CPU + GPU, an SSD, backlit keyboard, and very stylish look and size, sign me up! If Google can squeeze some good battery life out of this machine, between 4-6 hours, this product will be a slam dunk. Everyone arguing about ChromeOS, who cares? If you don't like ChromeOS, load something else. If you are not a technical person and do not like ChromeOS, look for something else. Google is hardly struggling, but this flagship device looks great. Personally, I love Android, it's a great mobile operating system, and if blending ChromeOS with Android brings more functionality I am all for it. I am a Fedora fan on laptops, and would likely dual boot Fedora on this machine, but if I could get all my developer tools to run in ChromeOS, I could see myself just running ChromeOS.

No more eating in at your desk... (1)

kimgkimg (957949) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821157)

I don't want cheesy-poof grease on my screen.

CHROMEBOOK PIXEL??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42821221)

Hehehe! You mean the laptop with a resolution of 1x1 ?? YAY for the ChromBook Pixel! :)

If they sell a $200 USD laptop I'll buy it (1)

jphamlore (1996436) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821263)

I'm not impressed with Chromebook sales considering fairly similar PC laptop models at that price point also sell like hotcakes. I bought an Acer Aspire One 725-0687 from Walmart for under $200 USD and it works fine in Debian unstable. That sounds like a better price than say 199 British pounds. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Red-11.6-AO725-0687-Laptop-PC-with-AMD-Dual-Core-C-70-Accelerated-Processor-and-Windows-8-Operating-System/21853455 [walmart.com] I did have to swap out the hard drive for an SSD but I would have had to have done that with an Acer Chromebook as well. And unlike an Acer Chromebook, I would not have had to have been forced to use Ubuntu 12.04 or whatever has been hacked to work on the Chromebook, but instead I can use any Linux distribution I want once I set the bios to legacy bios. Apparently Walmart can sell whatever number of $200 11.6 inch laptops they want, just like Google can sell however many sub $250 USD Chromebooks they want. The question of course is whether the respective companies feel like keeping these products in stock, which is not always the case for either.

MacBook (1)

Lazere (2809091) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821495)

Hasn't anybody else noticed that this video is just showing a MacBook with a stupid image fullscreen? I very highly doubt there is something like that in the works...

First look it looks like an Apple product (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42821605)

Why can't Google and its cronies do its own thing and stop copying Apple? At first look I could swear it was a MacBook Pro!

Re:First look it looks like an Apple product (1)

Lazere (2809091) | about a year and a half ago | (#42821789)

I'm pretty sure it is a MacBook Pro. Some idiot conspiracy theorists probably put this video together and now everybody is believing it.

(R) (1)

nightfury (2826503) | about a year and a half ago | (#42822183)

Did anyone else notice the lack of a registered trademark symbol on "Google" at the end of the video?
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