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Pirate Bay Documentary Film Now Available On TPB

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the seems-only-fair dept.

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New submitter terbeaux writes "The documentary TPB AFK follows the creators of The Pirate Bay — Peter Sunde, Fredrik Neij and Gottfrid Svartholm — through their technical and logistical trials of keeping TPB online as well as their court appearances in Sweden. After its premiere at Berlin International Film Festival, TechCrunch is reporting that TPB AFK is now available under a Creative Commons license for purchase, download on TPB, or viewing on YouTube. The budget for the film was raised on Kickstarter, where the makers achieved twice the funding goal in the allotted month-long funding campaign. The film already has 40,000 YouTube views, 19,000 torrent seeders, and over 2,000 paid downloads. There are public screenings happening world-wide."

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look at the numbers (-1, Offtopic)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year and a half ago | (#42841595)

here is how you pay the bills

free link: 40,000
free download that requires an ounce of thought: 19,000
pay for this crap: 2,000

its a proud day for doing stuff you love, but not all of us can dedicate the time or money to give stuff away while hoping someone drops a dollar in the guitar case, cause its just not happening

Re:look at the numbers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42841675)

Do you pay for every word you hear, every note played in your vicinity, every time you look at something man-made? All of it required at least some time and money, so requires fair compensation, yes?

Re:look at the numbers (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42841789)

what an idiotic comparison, documentary vs people talking

yes in the media every word, note and image is paid for you dumb shit hippy

Re:look at the numbers (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42841991)

So, the single fact that something is recorded on some media suddenly makes it worth more money? Recording companies are truly successful in their brainwashing.

Re:look at the numbers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42842629)

So, the single fact that something is recorded on some media suddenly makes it worth more money?

Doesn't it? Call me a brainwashed mass if you want, but the ability to play and replay something without being physically present is something worth paying for.

Re:look at the numbers (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year and a half ago | (#42843083)

So, the single fact that something is recorded on some media suddenly makes it worth more money?

If it's good stuff, then absolutely.

Re:look at the numbers (1)

MagdJTK (1275470) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845447)

No, but it means that it cost money to record. Nothing is recorded for free.

Re:look at the numbers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42849803)

There is a lot of things that costs time and money, that doesn't mean that the end result is worth anything.

Re:look at the numbers (1)

Rakhar (2731433) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842721)

Yeah, can't be having noteworthy information presented to us for *free*. That would be ludicrous.

That reminds me, time to pay my /. subscription fees.

Re:look at the numbers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42841837)

here is how you pay the bills

free link: 40,000
free download that requires an ounce of thought: 19,000
pay for this crap: 2,000

its a proud day for doing stuff you love, but not all of us can dedicate the time or money to give stuff away while hoping someone drops a dollar in the guitar case, cause its just not happening

I do wonder though if they are getting anything from the Youtube link? Its currently at 198k views, that must be generating some money also. And I would think that its not like the normal box office mentality on YouTube by looking at the immediate influx of views (first weekend of box office), its more the long haul because as it gets more popular it shows up on more peoples radar therefore more people watch it and they make more money.... Not sure maybe they aren't getting anything??

Re:look at the numbers (1)

derGoldstein (1494129) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842197)

Not sure maybe they aren't getting anything??

They're not naive enough to pass up on an additional revenue stream. If there are ads on the youtube page -- *Someone* is getting something. The question is: who?

Re:look at the numbers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42842723)

The people that made it have already been paid via Kickstarter anyway. Anything beyond that is candy. Why people must compare the old model directly with the new model is baffling. Stuck in the past much?

Re:look at the numbers (5, Informative)

gerddie (173963) | about a year and a half ago | (#42841851)

here is how you pay the bills

  • Acquire funding through Kickstarted before you begin filming
  • free link: 40,000
  • free download that requires an ounce of thought: 19,000
  • pay for this crap: 2,000

There, FTFY.

Re:look at the numbers (-1)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year and a half ago | (#42841903)

what is kickstarted?

Re:look at the numbers (1)

hawkinspeter (831501) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842021)

The summary mentions that the budget for the film was raised on Kickstarter [kickstarter.com] and hence, Kickstarted.

Re:look at the numbers (0)

derGoldstein (1494129) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842219)

I know I'm nitpicking but should "kickstarted" be a verb now? Isn't the mechanism called "crowdfunding"? Shouldn't *that* ("crowdfunded") be the verb?

Re:look at the numbers (1)

hawkinspeter (831501) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842429)

Maybe, but language can be whatever we want it to be. Crowdfunded is a better verb as it's not linked to one specific website and kickstarted can also apply to motorbikes, although I doubt that it'd create any confusion.

Re:look at the numbers (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year and a half ago | (#42843751)

"Maybe, but language can be whatever we want it to be."

oh thats convenient

Re:look at the numbers (1)

chilvence (1210312) | about a year and a half ago | (#42846859)

Yes it is. Otherwise we would have the word crowdfunded or kickstarted.

Re:look at the numbers (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845593)

Maybe, but language can be whatever we want it to be.

Humpty Dumpty, is that you?

Re:look at the numbers (1)

aevan (903814) | about a year and a half ago | (#42843361)

c.f. Googled

Re:look at the numbers (1)

Bram Stolk (24781) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845063)

You could call it kickstartered instead, to avoid confusion with moped related kickstarting.

're:kickstartered dead redemption (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42888757)

But if someone could be confusing
it with jumping up coming down stomping
on the starter of a moped or perhaps a Harley hog
that person, his con
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would all be awesome and for all time

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Re:look at the numbers (0)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year and a half ago | (#42843109)

Notice how the sentence of the OP was "Acquire funding through Kickstarted before you begin filming." There the word "Kickstarted" is used as a noun, and thus Osgeld's question "what is kickstarted?" makes sense.

Re:look at the numbers (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42842095)

He obviously meant kickstarter, it's like this website, where you can ask people for money to make projects, movies, music, even toys and gadgets! and then offer people rewards for making contributions. I'm surprised you have never heard of it, it's pretty common for interesting projects to be mentioned online and even in day to day conversation. Everyone has their blind spots though I guess, so I guess we can't fault you for a simple oversight, it would be like mocking someone over a simple spelling mistake because they pointed out a critical error in your original post.

Re:look at the numbers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42847873)

Where can I get the VHS of this?

Re:look at the numbers (4, Informative)

tlhIngan (30335) | about a year and a half ago | (#42841897)

its a proud day for doing stuff you love, but not all of us can dedicate the time or money to give stuff away while hoping someone drops a dollar in the guitar case, cause its just not happening

Which is why you do this stuff for fun on your off time, and have a regular job like everyone else to pay the bills. It's usually known as a "hobby". Some people are so dedicated to their hobbies in that they scrimp and save for years then take a whole year off or something to just pursue it.

Some people have even written great pieces of software during their off time, used by millions of people, given away for free, with little expectation or demand of payment in return.

Others have created books, artwork, music, and other cultural goods that are given away with little expectation of remuneration (usually the remuneration comes from permission to re-use said work in some context).

Hell, sometimes the compensation comes back in the form of recognition - which can pay even more dividends, especially in a crowded field where you are merely a name amongst others. Doing something high profile and "newsworthy" can elevate you above the other names and get some real payoffs, as well.

There are lots of reasons to do something. Money is one, and pretty common, but it doesn't have to be even the biggest reason why some people do things. Otherwise why do people volunteer at charities? Some people get paid a nominal amount, others give their time and effort for free to them.

Re:look at the numbers (1)

brit74 (831798) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844173)

Is this a joke?

There's lots of reasons that people should be getting paid for their work. For example, if our music, movie, and software industries are supposed to be built on the backs of volunteer labor on our 'off hours from work', you will find that: there is a general lack of professionalism (because people don't have the time to get really good at their craft), that there will be a chronic lack of volunteers (how many awesome open-source games are there again?), and it means society is getting something for nothing while creators are not getting adequately compensated for their work (which is unfair and an unsustainable system when one group does all the work, but another group gets all the benefits). We're not the sacrificial lambs of the 21st century - creating great stuff for the world, while getting virtually nothing in return. If you believe this, then I suggest you work at your job this year and give every single penny to charity. Then you can come lecture us about working for free for the benefit of humanity. (Oh, but we'll tell you you're not "working for free" - when you hand us our order at McDonalds, I'll reward you with **recognition**! Whoop! Whoop! How can you possibly refuse that offer?)

Re:look at the numbers (4, Insightful)

toiletsalmon (309546) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845053)

Bullshit.

You don't have the "right" to make a living off of your artistic endeavors anymore than I have the "right" to make a living from making paper airplanes, having sex with college girls, or selling snowcones. You, like anyone else have the right to make as much money as you can, in any way you like, as long as you don't:

a) break the law
b) piss people off enough that they kill you

That's IT.

It's fine to complain about not getting paid appropriately for your work, but this sense of "artistic entitlement" needs to GO. If you can't hack it trying to support yourself doing what you love, either fix it, or suck it up like EVERYONE ELSE ON THE PLANET and do something different.

You are not entitled to make a comfortable living off of your art.

And as for "professionalism" argument, if you call all the bullshit I see on the Grammy's and hear on the radio "professional", then you can keep your professional works and their "150 years after the death of the artist" or whatever ridiculous length has been bought and paid for by the media companies.

You want to fix artists not being compensated appropriately? Band together and get rid of organizations like the MPAA and the RIAA, because they represent "artists" and they're making "artists" look like a bunch of greedy assholes. And why would anyone care if they aren't compensating a bunch of greedy assholes?

Now get of my lawn! I've got to go to WORK. Because not all of us are FORTUNATE enough to be able to feed our kids by farting the tune for "Old McDonald had a Farm" into a cup or selling macaroni portraits of Che Guverra.

Re:look at the numbers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42885167)

Steve Jobs' dead, dry, gray, scaly balls need more lube. Go suck on them! You necrophiliactic uncle-rapist!

Re:look at the numbers (1)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842011)

here is how you pay the bills

free link: 40,000
free download that requires an ounce of thought: 19,000
pay for this crap: 2,000

its a proud day for doing stuff you love, but not all of us can dedicate the time or money to give stuff away while hoping someone drops a dollar in the guitar case, cause its just not happening

You don't seem to get it. It did happen. Right there it happened. Did holywood pick this movie up? Would it have ever been made had any normal studio been involved? Your media is spoon fed to you, you get exactly what will get you to buy more shit. They play on your hopes and fears to get you to buy into their business model. Can free work? Well it depends on what your goal is. Was your goal to make lots of money? Well then it's not likely to work. Was your goal to make a documentary about a subject the general media doesn't want covered? Then it worked in spades right here.

Re:look at the numbers (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year and a half ago | (#42843731)

yawn, keep your shallow hate the world opinion to yourself please

Burn these into your mind your mind your mind your (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42841607)

Memorable quotes for
Looker (1981)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082677/quotes [imdb.com]

"John Reston: Television can control public opinion more effectively than armies of secret police, because television is entirely voluntary. The American government forces our children to attend school, but nobody forces them to watch T.V. Americans of all ages *submit* to television. Television is the American ideal. Persuasion without coercion. Nobody makes us watch. Who could have predicted that a *free* people would voluntarily spend one fifth of their lives sitting in front of a *box* with pictures? Fifteen years sitting in prison is punishment. But 15 years sitting in front of a television set is entertainment. And the average American now spends more than one and a half years of his life just watching television commercials. Fifty minutes, every day of his life, watching commercials. Now, that's power."

##

"The United States has it's own propaganda, but it's very effective because people don't realize that it's propaganda. And it's subtle, but it's actually a much stronger propaganda machine than the Nazis had but it's funded in a different way. With the Nazis it was funded by the government, but in the United States, it's funded by corporations and corporations they only want things to happen that will make people want to buy stuff. So whatever that is, then that is considered okay and good, but that doesn't necessarily mean it really serves people's thinking - it can stupify and make not very good things happen."
- Crispin Glover: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000417/bio [imdb.com]

##

"It's only logical to assume that conspiracies are everywhere, because that's what people do. They conspire. If you can't get the message, get the man." - Mel Gibson (from an interview)

##

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William Casey, CIA Director

##

"The real reason for the official secrecy, in most instances, is not to keep the opposition (the CIA's euphemistic term for the enemy) from knowing what is going on; the enemy usually does know. The basic reason for governmental secrecy is to keep you, the American public, from knowing - for you, too, are considered the opposition, or enemy - so that you cannot interfere. When the public does not know what the government or the CIA is doing, it cannot voice its approval or disapproval of their actions. In fact, they can even lie to your about what they are doing or have done, and you will not know it. As for the second advantage, despite frequent suggestion that the CIA is a rogue elephant, the truth is that the agency functions at the direction of and in response to the office of the president. All of its major clandestine operations are carried out with the direct approval of or on direct orders from the White House. The CIA is a secret tool of the president - every president. And every president since Truman has lied to the American people in order to protect the agency. When lies have failed, it has been the duty of the CIA to take the blame for the president, thus protecting him. This is known in the business as "plausible denial." The CIA, functioning as a secret instrument of the U.S. government and the presidency, has long misused and abused history and continues to do so."
- Victor Marchetti, Propaganda and Disinformation: How the CIA Manufactures History

##

George Carlin:

"The real owners are the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians, they're an irrelevancy. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the statehouses, the city halls. They've got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies, so that they control just about all of the news and information you hear. They've got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else.

But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. That's against their interests. They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly they're getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago.

You know what they want? Obedient workers people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And, now, they're coming for your Social Security. They want your fucking retirement money. They want it back, so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They'll get it. They'll get it all, sooner or later, because they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club.

This country is finished."

##

[1967] Jim Garrison Interview "In a very real and terrifying sense, our Government is the CIA and the Pentagon, with Congress reduced to a debating society. Of course, you can't spot this trend to fascism by casually looking around. You can't look for such familiar signs as the swastika, because they won't be there. We won't build Dachaus and Auschwitzes; the clever manipulation of the mass media is creating a concentration camp of the mind that promises to be far more effective in keeping the populace in line. We're not going to wake up one morning and suddenly find ourselves in gray uniforms goose-stepping off to work. But this isn't the test. The test is: What happens to the individual who dissents? In Nazi Germany, he was physically destroyed; here, the process is more subtle, but the end results can be the same. I've learned enough about the machinations of the CIA in the past year to know that this is no longer the dreamworld America I once believed in. The imperatives of the population explosion, which almost inevitably will lessen our belief in the sanctity of the individual human life, combined with the awesome power of the CIA and the defense establishment, seem destined to seal the fate of the America I knew as a child and bring us into a new Orwellian world where the citizen exists for the state and where raw power justifies any and every immoral act. I've always had a kind of knee-jerk trust in my Government's basic integrity, whatever political blunders it may make. But I've come to realize that in Washington, deceiving and manipulating the public are viewed by some as the natural prerogatives of office. Huey Long once said, "Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism." I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security."

##

"Everything we see has some hidden message. A lot of awful messages are coming in under the radar - subliminal consumer messages, all kinds of politically incorrect messages..." - Harold Ramis

##

Re:Burn these into your mind your mind your mind y (0, Flamebait)

Psychotria (953670) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842247)

"It's only logical to assume that conspiracies are everywhere, because that's what people do. They conspire. If you can't get the message, get the man." - Mel Gibson (from an interview)

Holy crap! I have to change my entire thought process because Mel Gibson said that. He is famous as a logician and philosopher, so he must be right :(

room 12A (3, Informative)

Tenebrousedge (1226584) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842331)

Ad hominem. Next argument, please.

Seriously, that Monty Python argument was more entertaining than this.

Hilarious Lines! (2)

Tagged_84 (1144281) | about a year and a half ago | (#42841623)

I found Monique Wadsted to be truely insightful in this. Describing how this is all a cult, and she should know a cult from defending the church of Scientology, and that's it's a myth young people have issues with copyright. Her knowledge bomb was how she never thought file sharing would last and that it's all just a fad. Thanks Monique and thanks for helping bring law back to Sweden!

Re:Hilarious Lines! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42842343)

I found Monique Wadsted to be truely insightful in this. Describing how this is all a cult, and she should know a cult from defending the church of Scientology, and that's it's a myth young people have issues with copyright. Her knowledge bomb was how she never thought file sharing would last and that it's all just a fad. Thanks Monique and thanks for helping bring law back to Sweden!

The Wadstedt MAQS lawyer is deeply in bed with Scientology and this is scary. The Scientology cult has previosly even bullied the Swedish parliament to removing public documents. That Scientology is behind the copyright bullying of teenagers downloading music and movies is horrifying. no cult should be able to have this influence over public policy.

Be sure to watch the south park episode about scientology and educate yourself about what a cult really is, and what is dangerous about a cult.

Gottfrid Drug Addict (1)

u16084 (832406) | about a year and a half ago | (#42841637)

What I Got Out of it, Is Gottfrid is a drug addict and and a coward that went into hiding leaving his friends to take the fall?

Re:Gottfrid Drug Addict (2)

Tagged_84 (1144281) | about a year and a half ago | (#42841711)

Err not sure how you jumped to that conclusion? If *anyone* is "hiding" wouldn't that be the one who isn't in the country? I personally believe you waive all rights to being a "coward" when you face up against your overlords, to stand up in the first place takes more courage than the vast majority of people on this planet will ever have.

He wouldn't be worried about how they treat these new "hackers" and cyber terrorists either, surely it wouldn't be a rough prison sentence compared to killers and rapists right? Not like he was placed in solitary confinement for up to 23 hours a day when far more heinous crimes reward you with 3 star accommodation! Coward indeed.

Re:Gottfrid Drug Addict (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42841781)

Ahh, yes confined AFTER we was arrested then extradited. (Sure the extradition was bs but thats besides the point)

Re:Gottfrid Drug Addict (3, Insightful)

Nyder (754090) | about a year and a half ago | (#42841945)

What I Got Out of it, Is Gottfrid is a drug addict and and a coward that went into hiding leaving his friends to take the fall?

We have a society of Drug addicts. Nicotine, caffeine, tons of doctor prescribed drugs (like Methadone). Plus then we have non doctor prescribe addicts also.

It doesn't take much to be a drug addict in this society.

Re:Gottfrid Drug Addict (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42842237)

tons of doctor prescribed drugs (like Methadone).

Antidepressants or anxiolytics would've been a better example... Methadone is prescribed to drug addicts as a substitution treatment.

Re:Gottfrid Drug Addict (1)

Type44Q (1233630) | about a year and a half ago | (#42846253)

We have a society of Drug addicts. Nicotine, caffeine, tons of doctor prescribed drugs (like Methadone).

You left out the most destructive of them all:

sugar.

Re:Gottfrid Drug Addict (1)

bfandreas (603438) | about a year and a half ago | (#42856673)

Oxygen!

Get get really nervous when I don't get my next hit. Oxygen withdrawal is quite ugly.

Re:Gottfrid Drug Addict (1)

icebraining (1313345) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842111)

How would his presence help his friends? You make it sound like the other got convicted for crimes he did, when in reality he was convicted as well.

Re:Gottfrid Drug Addict (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42842133)

YOU are a drug addict too.

Caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, prescription and illegal drugs. Or maybe you get 'high on life'. Using the brains own drugs from thrill seeking, gambling, sex, honor, duty or love.

Unless you're one of the truely rare individuals who use none of those at all. We're all drug addicts.
Just the way the powers that be want it. Addicts are easy to control.

Now get back to work citizen. Or you won't be able to afford your fix.

Re:Gottfrid Drug Addict (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42846989)

Standing up to something that's about to steamroll you isn't courage, it's stupidity.

Shamless self promotion... (5, Informative)

Wescotte (732385) | about a year and a half ago | (#42841681)

I also have a feature film recently completed and to free download via TPB [thepiratebay.se] and stream via Youtube [youtube.com] . It's a comedy/horror called The Amateur Monster Movie [imdb.com] and is similar in style to Shaun of the Dead.

We have a second film in post production right now to be released in Spring 2013 and a third in preproduction looking for a 2014 release. Most likely they will be released for free as well. You can find more info on our website [spadeheartclub.com] . Hope you guys enjoy it.

Re:Shamless self promotion... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42841793)

Nice work... congrats. Reminds me of our college films, back when I had to rent time from the school on the fancy (and expensive) digital editing systems. It took me as long to get material from computer and tape into the system than it did to edit. :)

Yours looks much better though. Keep it up.

Re:Shamless self promotion... (1)

Nyder (754090) | about a year and a half ago | (#42841933)

I also have a feature film recently completed and to free download via TPB [thepiratebay.se] and stream via Youtube [youtube.com] . It's a comedy/horror called The Amateur Monster Movie [imdb.com] and is similar in style to Shaun of the Dead.

We have a second film in post production right now to be released in Spring 2013 and a third in preproduction looking for a 2014 release. Most likely they will be released for free as well. You can find more info on our website [spadeheartclub.com] . Hope you guys enjoy it.

Nice, something else to watch tonight, thanks for the info. Sounds good! =)

Re:Shamless self promotion... (1)

Sigg3.net (886486) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842187)

Thanks for this! I'll definitely check it out tomorrow. Hung over? Check. Cheese Doodles? Check. Comedy/Horror? Check.

Re:Shamless self promotion... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42842203)

May i suggest donations by bitcoin? It's easier to donate - especially for smaller donations - and practically without fees.

Re:Shamless self promotion... (1)

Wescotte (732385) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842231)

That's not a bad idea. I'm familiar with bitcoins but never actually used them before so I'll have do some research on setting up an account.

Thanks for the suggestion!

Re:Shamless self promotion... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42842451)

Great. Thanks. As a "drive-by donater" it's nice to be able to throw a coin your way easily. That probably involves setting up multiple donation methods, but hey, if it means more coinage. :)

I guess the simple way is to get the bitcoin client and put a bitcoin address on your site. But you could also use bitcoinate or bitpay. I'm sure they have some extra features.

Re:Shamless self promotion... (1)

fa2k (881632) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842589)

May i suggest donations by bitcoin? It's easier to donate - especially for smaller donations - and practically without fees.

Yeah, maybe I would have done it, just for the novelty of using my bitcoins for something. $ 10 is a bit much, though. So many projects deserving of donations, so little cash...

Re:Shamless self promotion... (1)

fa2k (881632) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842611)

Damn, didn't read the whole thread, I thought it was about TPB movie. Sorry. Anyway, Amateur Monster Movie looks cool

Re:Shamless self promotion... (1)

geekymachoman (1261484) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844401)

Telling ones story isn't necesarily ones promotion. It's a story. Though.. average visitor of this site has too big of an ego to not think of it as unjust to him/his projects.

Anyway.. tpb movie didn't 'promote' them, at least not in my eyes. I only found interesting them as some 'random' guys that did something, most probably by random chance... or being at the right time at the right place, and having the 'right' idea. That's all. Suprnova guy 10 yrs ago.. was the same. If he fought all kinds of mafiaa, it would be interesting to see his story too. What kind of a guy was he.

When it comes to your movie, good luck with it. Hope you promoted yourself well, even if you used someones else .. promotion as you call it.

inevitable (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42841755)

Someone will call this a DMCA violation and demand it be pulled form YouTube.

ROFLMAO! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42842089)

Ahhh man i imagine this just chaps the asses of the MPAA and RIAA shills and execs so fucking hard... They could never imagine doing something like this.
Because they didn't do step one way back at the beginning...

Step 1. DON'T be a douchebag to all your potential customers.

All the old media people have fucked up that step time and time again.

Wish they'd hurry up and die off.

Not sure (2)

Psychotria (953670) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842225)

I freely admit that I have no idea about the TPB trials (although I have, of course, heard about them) because it's not something that interests me greatly (I've never visited TPB and never used a torrent. Yes, I must be old). Nonetheless I watched the film. It was definitely interesting, but somewhat one-sided. As someone who really has no idea about the trials and appeals the film doesn't seem to present both sides of the case in equal light. Maybe it's not meant to, I don't know.

It's not explicitly stated that the footage is "actual" but I am going to assume it is. So, the picture in my mind (influenced by the film) is that there were three guys. Two of these guys seemed to abuse substances (although I pass no judgement on that) and ran away. The other guy was "a good guy" and stayed to accept the outcomes of the Swedish legal system. Throughout the whole film all three of them seemed to assume that the law would finally vindicate them. I guess that's part optimism and part bravado. I am not 100% any of them convincingly stood for any "political viewpoint" at all; a lot of their views could be viewed as post facto opinions, but put in their shoes I may have behaved similarly.

Anyway, it was an interesting watch. It's not very often at all that I'll watch through 1.5 hrs of something like this so I applaud the film makers. I wish there was more insight into "the other side of the story" but I suppose that would have doubled the film length and I'd have never gotten to the end.

Re:Not sure (1)

Nimless (2782015) | about a year and a half ago | (#42843035)

The other side of the story it's the copyright law system. Even if I don't like the current copyright system, I cannot condone people making money by breaking copyright.

Re:Not sure (1)

Kjella (173770) | about a year and a half ago | (#42843249)

As someone who really has no idea about the trials and appeals the film doesn't seem to present both sides of the case in equal light. Maybe it's not meant to, I don't know.

Well, there wasn't really many doubts about the facts of the case. The other side's position was basically that by facilitating file sharing through torrents and trackers and making ad revenue in the process they were part of the illegal activity and guilty. To compare it to US standards in the Betamax case the court found in a 5-4 decision that you are not liable for copyright infringement by third parties as long as your product or service has substantial non-infringing uses, but in MGM vs Grokster they found in a 9-0 verdict that if you promote its use to infringe copyright, as shown by clear expression or other affirmative steps taken to foster infringement then you are liable. Just by calling yourself The Pirate Bay you've pretty much put yourself in the "Grokster" category instead of "Betamax". Of course Swedish law applies in Sweden, but it's a little like selling guns as murder weapons - it doesn't fly well in any country.

What I still don't quite understand is why they got convicted, but TPB continues to operate - they've even switched to a .se domain. I can't see any principal difference between then and today even though they've switched to external trackers and magnet links. It's like the Swedish government saw the public opinion during the TPB case and just decided to leave it be and not stick their hand into that hornet's nest again. It's still in the top 100 of Alexa's top 500 web site ranking with over 1% of global internet users visiting it daily. Of course the entertainment industry trying to ban access from other countries but that'll be mostly pointless as long as the main site stays up and the longer it does the harder I think it'll be to take down, politically. Because I sure don't think the cops will without approval from the very top.

Re:Not sure (1)

Em Adespoton (792954) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845189)

it's a little like selling guns as murder weapons - it doesn't fly well in any country.

Not really, as murder is illegal everywhere. It'd be more like selling whiskey as something to get you drunk -- this shouldn't be an issue in the US, but you're going to have problems with the courts in, say, Saudi Arabia.

Theora (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42842583)

Wasn't there an Ogg Theora version promised? I can't find it on TPB.

Blocked (1)

fa2k (881632) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842693)

It's so annoying that TPB is blocked. There are now two movies on this page that I can't get. I figured out a trick some time ago, using "\n" to separate lines in the HTTP request, which is invalid HTTP. That's accepted by the Pirate Bay server and not blocked.
printf "GET /user/SimonKlose/ HTTP/1.1\nHost: thepiratebay.se\n\n" |nc thepiratebay.se 80 | grep "magnet:"

Anyway, I'm not going to suggest that TPB make a text-friendly version, as this loophole will just be blocked too.

Ways around TPB blocks (5, Informative)

Kiwikwi (2734467) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842939)

First method: Try a Pirate Bay proxy: http://thepiratebay.se/ [thepiratebay.se] , http://malaysiabay.org/ [malaysiabay.org] , many more [piratebaymirrors.com]

Second method: Several ISPs use simple DNS blocking, so try Google Public DNS [google.com] . (This doesn't apply to OP, but may help others.) On Windows, you can use the following command to see if it might work, without changing your DNS: nslookup thepiratebay.org 8.8.8.8 (the IP right now should be 194.71.107.50).

Third method: Use Google Cache to find the magnet-link:

1. Do a site:thepiratebay.se Google search for the torrent. [google.com]
2. Click the Preview (>>) arrow next to your result, and click the Cached link.
3. Click "Text Only" version if the page fails to load.
4. Finally, click the magnet link.

If the "Cached" link is missing from the Google search result, click on the search result, then copy the URL (the real URL, not the Google redirect URL), prepend "http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:" to the URL. (example) [googleusercontent.com]

Re:Ways around TPB blocks (1)

Kiwikwi (2734467) | about a year and a half ago | (#42842983)

Fourth method: Have someone on the Internet give you the Magnet links:

TPB.AFK.2013.480p.h264-SimonKlose [surl.dk]
TPB.AFK.2013.720p.h264-SimonKlose [surl.dk]
TPB.AFK.2013.1080p.h264-SimonKlose [surl.dk]
The Amateur Monster Movie [surl.dk]

(Using a URL redirect service, since Slashdot chokes on Magnet links.)

Re:Blocked (2)

xiando (770382) | about a year and a half ago | (#42843025)

Try https://www.torproject.org/ [torproject.org] it'll get you to there even if the site is blocked by your ISP.

Downloaded & Paid For (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42842789)

Worth every penny of the $34 I donated.

Magnet links (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42842929)

480 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:99feae0a05c6a5dd9af939ffce5ca9b0d16f31b0&dn=TPB.AFK.2013.480p.h264-SimonKlose&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.istole.it%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80

720 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:79816060ea56d56f2a2148cd45705511079f9bca&dn=TPB.AFK.2013.720p.h264-SimonKlose&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.istole.it%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80

1080 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:411a7a164505636ab1a8276395b375a3a30bff32&dn=TPB.AFK.2013.1080p.h264-SimonKlose&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.istole.it%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80

So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42843039)

Is it worth watching? Did it entertain/interest you?

Peter Sunde himself not very happy with TPB AFK (3, Interesting)

De Lemming (227104) | about a year and a half ago | (#42846217)

Peter Sunde himself has mixed feelings about TPB AFK. In the end, he's not very happy with it...

On the one hand, the movie is great in terms of photography, editing, sound. The experience the viewer gets of the movie is kind of like a thriller. But on the other hand, it’s not my view of the things that actually happened during this period.

The film maker, Simon, who I consider a good friend, and I have different views of what the movie should be. It’s his film though so he makes all the shots. There are lots of scenes in the movie that are well edited to be something different than they are. This is all part of making a movie, drama is needed. I’m not happy with all of them, and I don’t like the dark and gloomy view that Simon has of the past years. The editor (whom I’ve never met, so he has no real idea of who I am, just what has been filmed of me) has cut the movie in a way that is very different from what I’ve experienced.

Read Peter's complete review on his blog [brokep.com] .

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