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iOS 6.1 Leads To Battery Life Drain, Overheating For iPhone Users

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the that's-a-drag dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "We have started seeing an increase in iPhone issues related to battery life and overheating. All of them seem to be related to users upgrading their devices to iOS 6.1. Furthermore, Vodafone UK today began sending out text messages to iPhone 4S owners on its network, warning them not to upgrade to iOS 6.1 due to issues with 3G performance. The text reads, 'If you've not already downloaded iOS 6.1 for your iPhone 4s, please hold off for the next version while Apple fixes 3G performance issues. Thanks.'"

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Hmm (1)

Ryanrule (1657199) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844621)

My phone is too full to run the upgrade. I guess I am just good.

Re:Hmm (-1, Troll)

Shavano (2541114) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844639)

My phone is too full to run the upgrade. I guess I am just good.

Try removing the pirated songs and videos.

Re:Hmm (1)

MightyYar (622222) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844701)

On some of our phones, that would leave little but contacts and apps.

Re:Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844715)

Thou shalt not use storage space, it should stay free.

Re:Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844719)

My phone is too full to run the upgrade. I guess I am just good.

Try removing the pirated songs and videos.

Try trolling harder.

Re:Hmm (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845391)

My phone is too full to run the upgrade. I guess I am just good.

Try removing the pirated songs and videos.

Try trolling harder.

Okay.

Try removing all your kiddie porn.

That better?

Re:Hmm (0)

Lumpy (12016) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844917)

Maybe he is Steampunky and likes pirate songs and videos...

Yarr! WE be Sky Pirates!

There's an app for that. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844623)

iSuck.

Upgrade to 6.1? (-1)

kurt555gs (309278) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844651)

How about upgrading to a Nexus 4 or Samsung Galaxy S III?

Problem solved.

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (1, Troll)

lucm (889690) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844711)

Maybe those have the same bug since they are (allegedly) such a shameful copy of the iPhone...

They only copy the obvious parts... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845615)

They only copy the obvious parts. It would be way too easy to show infringement on prior art if they copied the bugs as well.

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (5, Interesting)

iMouse (963104) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844745)

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845109)

Ooh look, a little iFan cannot face the facts their beloved company isn't perfect, so she avoids the issue concerned and goes off looking for something else. Tip: Apple's cockups are not your failings, stop taking everything personally. You'll feel better for it.

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844777)

I've been reading /. since 1998 or something and one thing that would always make me mad were the assholes that would reply to a problem in a particular OS with the suggestion that the solution to that problem would be using another particular OS. Normally it would be a MS Windows issue and always there was an asshole saying that with Linux that particular problem would not happen.

So to get back to point. Next time you have a headache, please remember, that the problem is that you have a faulty head and should be using another, better one. So please have someone chop it off, and replace it with a new one.

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (1)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844849)

Next time you have a headache, please remember, that the problem is that you have a faulty head and should be using another, better one. So please have someone chop it off, and replace it with a new one.

And we'd really like to hear about your experiences afterwards. Especially if this problem keeps recurring despite your solution...

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (2)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845191)

So to get back to point. Next time you have a headache, please remember, that the problem is that you have a faulty head and should be using another, better one. So please have someone chop it off, and replace it with a new one.

Don't be a pirate. Don't steal heads.

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (4, Funny)

RobbieThe1st (1977364) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845407)

I suggest switching to Linux.

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845609)

Would you feel the same way if someone told you to use a spoon instead of a fork to eat oatmeal? Sometimes the solution to a problem is to use a tool better suited to the situation.

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844821)

Yea so when the Nexus 5 or Samsung Galaxy S 4 come out you can buy that one too because you won't get the latest OS for 6 months on your old phone, well unless you root your old phone.

My iPhone 4S is running fine here.

and they have replaceable batterys and extended on (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844869)

and they have replaceable batterys and extended ones as well.

Re:and they have replaceable batterys and extended (0)

Lumpy (12016) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844947)

I have NEVER had to replace a battery on a nexus phone. nobody needs a replaceable battery unless you cant afford the phone to begin with.

Re:and they have replaceable batterys and extended (0)

Pubstar (2525396) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845351)

Or if you go out for the day (and night) and you would like a spare so your phone doesn't die while you are out. My old job I'd sometimes work 20 hour calls without an outlet to charge my phone.

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (2)

node 3 (115640) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844905)

There may be many worthy reasons to move from an iPhone to a Nexus 4, but battery life isn't one of them, and neither is heat.

However, you may be on to something with the SIII. After all, if holding off on upgrades to the newest OS version is something that's important to you, going with a non-Nexus Android device will provide that functionality far beyond expectations. :D

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (0)

Lumpy (12016) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844921)

You mean Downgrade... No LTE = the phone is LAME and junk.

I am pissed that the Nexus 4 does not support LTE.

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (-1)

RobbieThe1st (1977364) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845449)

To be fair, in ny neck of the woods, there's only one city nearby where there's LTE, and only a couple of spots where there's 3G. I'm lucky to get GPRS most of the time, and there's even blank spots on the highway I drive to work on where there is /NO/ reception, so... I don't see the point of LTE.

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845021)

why is this marked off topic (2000CET 09022013) ? It is sensible proposal - I do not have either of the phones and do not intend to buy one of them but if calling were vital function I would think twice before buying apple esp as this is not the first time they have problems with radio.

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (1)

sdsucks (1161899) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845235)

Did you get paid for that advertisement? Either way, it's still spam.

Re:Upgrade to 6.1? (-1)

kurt555gs (309278) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845259)

I'm sure glad that I have Karma to burn. The Apply fanbois are even worse than the Microsoft ( M$ ) shills.

Background audio (1)

hawks5999 (588198) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844663)

It seems background audio from Safari and other browsers is broken as well.

Re:Background audio (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844703)

They disabled the autoplay attribute of the HTLM5 audio tag a few versions again, video/audio has to be user-initiated (play() called in a click trigger).

Never Upgrade Immediately (4, Insightful)

Jarik C-Bol (894741) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844679)

And this is why I refuse to install system updates for at least a month after they are released. Let some other poor sod brick their phone with an obscure bug, and get the fixed update once they finish the croudsourcing beta test.

Re:Never Upgrade Immediately (-1, Flamebait)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844695)

It's Apple. Don't install ANYTHING until the x.3 version is out. Been that way forever.

Re:Never Upgrade Immediately (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844893)

It's Apple. Don't install ANYTHING until the x.3 version is out.

It's Apple. Don't use ANYTHING.

Re:Never Upgrade Immediately (5, Insightful)

node 3 (115640) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844929)

Troll much?

There are hundreds of millions of people without any problems whatsoever, and hundreds, maybe even a few thousand, who are having problems. After all, if what you said were true (and not just the standard Slashdot drivel), you'd see not just a sensational headline and story, but an outcry from the users.

Don't worry yourself about it, though. Trolling Apple here will get you points.

Re:Never Upgrade Immediately (1)

DarkVader (121278) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845279)

Well, Apple HAS been very badly behaved lately. If nothing else, the fact that we have had to wait until this week to install 6.x because we've been waiting for a jailbreak is incredibly wrong, there should be no such concept as a jailbreak because there should be no such concept as a device that the user cannot install his choice of software. It's MY phone, not Apple's phone.

Sure, they're nowhere close to as evil as M$, but they ARE evil.

And what's truly infuriating about that is that they are the ONLY ones making a good user interface for a computer. Linux got lost in the weeds first, with Gnome and Unity, then M$ upped the unusability game with Windoze 8. Apple had to get into it a bit with removing scroll bar arrows and making all window edges growable, but overall Mac OS is by far the best OS out there, nothing else is even close as far as useability. And iOS is quite nice as well, once it's jailbroken.

Re:Never Upgrade Immediately (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845387)

Oh get a life, dude. Hundreds of thousands of people without problems and a whole bunch with. What I said is really True Gospel, no matter what the fanbois whine about. Apple has been pretty bad about software / firmware upgrades for years. 10.0.0 - now exactly how useful was that, remember? 10.6.0 (which was supposed to fix things - glitches galore. 10.7.0 - a mess, 10.8 - still pretty iffy for a lot of people.

Hey, I use OS X (and iOS) daily - I like it. I'm just happy to let the bleeding edge get all white and pasty and act as beta testers. Of course, this isn't exactly restricted to Apple - Google, Microsoft, Oracle (well, they never actually get it together), HP (um, ditto) and everybody else has issues.

Just don't get all of your panties twisted about. It's a tool. Not an altar.

Re:Never Upgrade Immediately (1)

Concerned Onlooker (473481) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845077)

I guess at least that's an improvement over MS, where it was always don't install ANYTHING until the 3.x version is out.

Re:Never Upgrade Immediately (3, Insightful)

_xeno_ (155264) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845331)

Except last I checked, iOS 6.1 contains security fixes, a few of which are not related to blocking jailbreaking.

So your choices are apparently "useful battery life" or "able to browse webpages safely." Sounds about normal for Apple, since this isn't the first upgrade that completely killed battery life for most users.

787 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844689)

I didn't know Boeing's 787 ran on iOS.

Official Apple Response (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844691)

You updated it wrong. - The Ghost of Steve Jobs

Re:Official Apple Response (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844731)

You know, Jobs might have been a world-class prick, but not as many of the fuck-ups that have been happening over the last year and a half would have happened had he been running things. Apple is now out of the hands of an eccentric, driven leader with a vision, and into the hands of the corporate hacks. Over the next 5 years you can say bye-bye to Apple's stock price as it turns into Just Another Company.

How do you know that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845147)

Jobs fucked up many things when he was alive.

Now he's dead, he'll never get the chance to fuck things up again, but that doesn't mean if he were alive he'd not screw it up in his own way.

Basically, the other phones have access to the same tech produced by the companies Apple bought from and since that was the major reason for the iPhone to be better in the beginning than competing phones, they lost their competitive edge.

Even Jobs would have buggered it up with that scenario. Unless he put contracts out on Gorilla et al to forbid them from selling their stuff to other than apple.

No problem here (5, Informative)

DJ Particle (1442247) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844725)

iOS 6.1 - iPhone 4S - no issues. Don't know where TFA is getting this from.

Re:No problem here (4, Informative)

grqb (410789) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844751)

Same here

Re:No problem here (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844797)

iOS 6.1 - iPhone 4 - same, no issues for me either.

Re:No problem here (1)

iMouse (963104) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844801)

Have a friend with a 4s and iOS 6.0.x that has some kind of background process keeping the phone from going into standby. The standby and usage timers are the same and the phone only gets about 8 hours of use.

I'm wondering if some misbehaving apps or mail/sync configurations are keeping the phone awake. Something in the iOS 6.1 update could be causing a similar problem for some of those who update.

Both my iPhone 4 and wife's 4s seem to be relatively normal since the 6.1 update.

Re:No problem here (4, Informative)

TrancePhreak (576593) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845611)

I've read about a problem like this. It was a bug in the handling of exchange servers for the built in mail app. Removing and re-adding the exchange account seemed to fix it. The bug will randomly reappear at times and there is no known cause.

Re:No problem here (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844847)

Just upgraded, then saw this post -- doh! So far so good, though, on my iPhone 5 using LTE.

Re:No problem here (1)

Zadaz (950521) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844851)

Also no problems with 4S and 6.1.

I wonder if some of these 'problems' are from the same people who refuse to believe that iTunes shuffle is random.

I know why /. posts these articles, to get lots of comments. All the comments are between fanbois and trolls. Which adds nothing to nothing.

Re:No problem here (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845013)

Don't forget the posts of anecdotal evidence... and hamsters, what's with this those furry fuckers?

Re:No problem here (1)

fluffy99 (870997) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845245)

Also no problems with 4S and 6.1.

I wonder if some of these 'problems' are from the same people who refuse to believe that iTunes shuffle is random.

It's not that it isn't random, it's that it doesn't work like most people would expect. Even Apple will tell you that shuffle doesn't pick the next song at random. When you first turn on shuffle, it creates a shuffled playlist and uses that forever unless you turn off shuffle and turn it back on. So every time you play song X, it's always followed by song Y. In some ways it makes sense, but after listening though a few times, it's easy to notice that its not really picking the next song at random.

http://www.cultofmac.com/181517/why-itunes-shuffling-order-isnt-really-random/ [cultofmac.com]

At least I'm not posting on /. that "Hey my phones works okay, must not your the anti-apple trolls making this up.".

Re:No problem here (1)

RobbieThe1st (1977364) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845479)

Isn't this how shuffle always works? It works like that on my Rockboxed device, on my N900... heck, I'd say that's the "expected" way of doing it.

Re:There is probably more than one 4S model (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844911)

How many different models of the iPhone 4S are there though? As an example, there are actually 18 different PS2 models not just two like most people think.

Re:There is probably more than one 4S model (1)

alen (225700) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844973)

the models are all the same, the 3G networks around the world are all slightly different

probably a bug in how vodaphone does something on their network and some app using location services

Re:No problem here (1)

node 3 (115640) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844983)

You must be new here.

Re:No problem here (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845031)

I'm on Vodafone in the UK and have this text message, quite amusing since I've just dumped my iPhone 4s for a Galaxy S3 and very happy with it.

It turned up 09:45 on Feb 9th and states

"If you've not already downloaded iOS 6.1 for your iPhone 4s, please hold off for the next version while Apple fixes 3G performance issues, Thanks"

Since I'm running android, not an issue, t'other half has a 4S though but she's still on iOS 5, so not an issue there either.

Re:No problem here (3, Funny)

DarrylM (170047) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845055)

Ditto. My 4S has had no problems with iOS 6.1. In fact, my battery life seems better than it was before.

Re:No problem here (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845155)

No problems either. However, as a rule, I keep off the push notifications and location services. I wonder?

Andriod Update (1, Troll)

hduff (570443) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844733)

The most recent update on my HTC increased my battery life significantly.

Re:Andriod Update (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844783)

Yes, you're right, the bushfires in australia are less severe because there are also bushfires in other places.

It's not issue... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844743)

It's a feature to keep user's hands warm during the cold winter months, which will be turned off in a future release when the seasons change.

- Apple PR

Re:It's not issue... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845339)

Is there a southern hemisphere version of the firmware?

Congratulations! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844771)

Congratulations, Apple fanboi! Your expensive gadget sucks!

Rats, already upgraded (0, Flamebait)

sideslash (1865434) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844815)

Presumably by using an iPhone 4S at all, I'm "owning it wrong". My deepest apologies to the hallowed memory of Jobs. I shall drop everything this instant and run out and purchase an iPhone 5.

Coming from the Microsoft world I have been very surprised at how little attention Apple pays to legacy compatibility. It's only recently become impossible to run 16 bit Windows apps in the latest Microsoft OS. Compare that to the constant forced churn in Apple desktop software. And just to pick another example still raw in my memory as a developer, see the change on iOS to CocoaTouch/UIViewController auto rotation handing methods, with pretty much zero attention paid to "helping old stuff still work", leading to really ugly breakage all across the App Store. That was not an accident, that was basically a premeditated Three Stooges eye-poke on third party developers.

Conclusion: Apple doesn't care about yesterday's customers, they keep their eyes fixed only on future dollars. When Apple goes down (as all behemoth tech companies eventually do) I shall do a little iDance on their grave, perform an Xpectoration on their development tools, and will be sure to Pee Different(r) on anything else I see lying around.

Re:Rats, already upgraded (2)

ericloewe (2129490) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844887)

As far as I know, 32-bit Windows 8 still supports 16-bit apps. 64-bit Windows dropped those quite some time ago.

Re:Rats, already upgraded (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845035)

This is correct.

Re:Rats, already upgraded (1)

sideslash (1865434) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845095)

Thanks, you are correct on all counts. My comments were based on the preponderance of new systems sold, which are pretty much all 64 bits as of (vaguely) recently.

Re:Rats, already upgraded (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844957)

Jesus pig fucking Christ get over yourself. It's a bug. They'll fix it. This shit happens with everything. Do our little dance then slit your skinny wrists, scumb geek filth.

Re:Rats, already upgraded (3, Informative)

whisper_jeff (680366) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844987)

Apple provides some of the best legacy support for their devices of all mobile vendors. By a WIDE margin, in many cases given that most other mobile vendors stop supporting a device the instant it's sold...

Also, on the desktop side, they continued supporting OS9 apps for almost a decade after moving on from that OS, as but one example of their legacy support. They not only provide some of the best legacy support in the industry, they also provide a great deal of advance warning of when that legacy support os going to end.

So, aside from just being a troll, I don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Re:Rats, already upgraded (1)

sideslash (1865434) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845065)

No, I'm not trolling. Do you have a response to my comment about the deliberate breaking of autorotation in UIViewController in iOS 6? (If you're not an iOS developer, then never mind.)

Apple provides some of the [least horrible] legacy support for their devices of all mobile vendors. By a WIDE margin

FTFY.

Re:Rats, already upgraded (1)

whisper_jeff (680366) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845365)

Not a developer - feel free to ignore as you will.

Your complaint is as a developer. You started the conversation about owning an iPhone, which is about being a consumer.

As a consumer, Apple provides some of the best legacy support in the industry. Yes, some things eventually become EOL but, compared to the other options, Apple products are supported a very long time from release.

As a developer, I would say this - any developer who thinks they can develop once and be done forever, especially in the rapidly changing landscape that is mobile, is delusional. To stay current means periodically being forced to adapt to an evolving OS landscape.

I would imagine that for every example of Apple breaking something in iOS as the system has evolved, someone (with more knowledge about the development environments than I have) can point out similar situations with Android (not singling out Android - it's just a two horse race and the others don't really matter, quite frankly...).

So, either complain as a developer (which isn't really relevant to this entire subject given that it has pretty much nothing at all to do with development) or complain as a consumer in which case you're wrong.

Re:Rats, already upgraded (1)

node 3 (115640) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845047)

Um, what is this drivel? The 4S isn't "yesterday's customers". Apple sells it today, and will keep selling it tomorrow, and for many tomorrows to come. Nobody's telling you to buy a 5, not even Apple. I have a 4S, and it works better today than it did when I bought it well over a year ago.

You are right about one thing. Apple does drop support when they feel it's worth it. PPC, Classic, 32-bit hardware... But here's the deal with that: 1. the old stuff doesn't magically stop working. 2. by dropping legacy support, the new stuff works much better than it otherwise would.

MS's adherence to legacy has brought about all sorts of annoyances (including security issues) throughout the years. That's one of MS's strengths, though, supporting things for years and years. Apple's quickness to disregard legacy to make things better is one of their strengths. I prefer the latter, because it provides, for me, a much better experience. Perhaps you prefer the former?

Re:Rats, already upgraded (1)

sideslash (1865434) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845221)

Perhaps you prefer the former?

We've talked about this from several angles, so that's a hard question to answer simplistically. We all like cool new stuff that works. :D

I'd just get back to my example of Apple deliberately breaking autorotate for legacy apps running on iOS 6. I definitely do not prefer that kind of change. I think it was a good example of what I was talking about, and not "drivel" at all. You're welcome to write a refutation of that point.

Re:Rats, already upgraded (1)

Kaldaien (676190) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845619)

Apple really doesn't care much for legacy support; Rosetta is not even installed on Mac OS X by default anymore. They constantly make minor changes to their core OS APIs that require writing separate code paths or using separate languages altogether. The OS X window system interface in my graphics engine is 4x as long as the Microsoft Windows interface. And now, to compile the engine as a 64-bit binary on OS X, I have to write an Objective C wrapper to use parts of the OS that are no longer accessible in their 64-bit C APIs.

It has been this way for most of Apple's history and it is frustrating for software developers and consumers alike.

No Exchange, no problem (1, Informative)

Tangential (266113) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844843)

Everything I read points to interaction with MS-Exchange as the culprit.

It may be an Apple bug related to interacting with Exchange, but since Exchange is a proprietary and non-standards compliant interface, such things happen from time to time.

I've experienced better battery life since going to 6.1 on my 4S. Of course I don't (and hopefully won't ever) use Exchange.

Re:No Exchange, no problem (5, Informative)

Richard_at_work (517087) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844939)

Nice attempt at trolling, but since Apple is a licensee to the ActiveSync protocol, they are fully within control of how they implement that spec and thus responsible for any issues that crop up when none existed before...

"proprietary" and "non-standards compliant" doesn't equate to "shit", it just equates to "I can't download the spec from a website and implement it". If you implement the protocol badly, it doesn't matter whether it's proprietary or not. If you don't control both ends of a connection, then you are entirely dependent on how the other end implement the protocol, proprietary or not.

Re:No Exchange, no problem (2, Informative)

Gr8Apes (679165) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845145)

... If you implement the protocol badly, it doesn't matter whether it's proprietary or not. If you don't control both ends of a connection, then you are entirely dependent on how the other end implement the protocol, proprietary or not.

And apparently,from skimming the referenced articles, it appears that the server end has issues....

Re:No Exchange, no problem (2)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845217)

And apparently,from skimming the referenced articles, it appears that the server end has issues....

Wow, this iOS upgrade is so bad it's even affecting the servers!?

Re:No Exchange, no problem (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845267)

Yes. On our corporate network all IOS 6.1 devices have been locked out due to a bug which was overloading the Exchange servers. Specifically it was targeting the Calendar system and at this time they have permitted web browsing access again, but access to Exchange / Outlook has been limited to read-only for calendar events to them.

Posting as AC because I am moderating today.

Re:No Exchange, no problem (2)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845383)

Apple and Google are working to undermine Microsoft. But Apple didn't think going Google's route and just dropping Exchange support was the best strategy - they decided to actively attack.

Re:No Exchange, no problem (1)

zennyboy (1002544) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845543)

No mod points, but +1:lol!

Re:No Exchange, no problem (1)

Gr8Apes (679165) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845325)

And apparently,from skimming the referenced articles, it appears that the server end has issues....

Wow, this iOS upgrade is so bad it's even affecting the servers!?

I would actually read that as Exchange is so bad that a typo can take it down. To each their own. We don't even know what the actual bug is, but the server should never go down from a message. It is ALWAYS up to the server to validate and handle inbound traffic appropriately. Never trust a client. Then again, this is MS we're talking about.

Re:No Exchange, no problem (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845395)

For what it's worth, I was trying to make a "let's blame everything on Apple" joke. A client should only have limited ability to disrupt a well-designed server setup.

Re:No Exchange, no problem (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844965)

The company I work for have said there is an issue with 6.1 and the latest MS Exchange. "Dont accept any meeting requests" they say.

So I suspect this parent is not "funny", but on the money.

Re:No Exchange, no problem (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845467)

The company I work for have said there is an issue with 6.1 and the latest MS Exchange. "Dont accept any meeting requests" they say.

So I suspect this parent is not "funny", but on the money.

Sounds like more of a feature than a bug. No more meetings? I'm upgrading right now!

Re:No Exchange, no problem (1)

MojoRilla (591502) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844989)

There are have been problems with iOS, exchange support, and push email for a long time. I used to have really bad bluetooth problems, and I would get into funky modes where my battery drained fast and my phone overheated. Granted, I did have a slow and overloaded Exchange server. The solution to both problems was to off push email and fetch email every 15 minutes.

I guess they did need Jobs screaming at them... (4, Funny)

AmazingRuss (555076) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844903)

...to keep from fucking things up all the time.

All versions of iOS drain battery (2)

edxwelch (600979) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844923)

I remember hearing battery problems for practically every iOS version from 5.0 onwards.
http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/16/ios-5-battery-life-fix-tips/ [osxdaily.com]
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/12/ios-6-0-2-suspected-of-draining-batteries/ [arstechnica.com]
What gives?

Using the phone drains the battery (2)

bughunter (10093) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845547)

Title fixxored.

It cuts both ways I guess (3, Interesting)

erroneus (253617) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844959)

One of the strong points of iPhone is the fact that it is very manufacturer supported. It is *THE BEST* menufacturer supported consumer device out there. I don't care what you cheer for or what you bought, I think there's simply no denying Apple's iPhone is at the top in this category. They get updates. They get fixes. The carrier does not and cannot get in the way. (Though in the early days with AT&T demanding Apple disable tethering and all that kinda sucked.) After saying all this, you would think I'm another Appe fanboy. I'm not. I'm not any kind of fan boy, but I choose Android over all others and choose carrier independence by going with unlocked, rooted and custom ROM'd phones. So all that out of the way, what am I talking about cutting both ways?

Well, this: Apple pushes updates to the whole OS -- kernel, apps and all, to all users and all [selected] phones. "The experience" is pretty important to Apple and that it should be consistent is a high priority to them. I think their rate of updates appear to be okay but their all-or-nothing thing is a problem in that problems like these occur and from what I understand, going back to a previous version is not done... not casually anyway and requires jailbreaking maybe?

The power of the various versions of the iPhones vary. Android devices vary a LOT more. And as I look at the potential of the devices, it is easy to observe that the hardware has limits which shouldn't be exceeded. I've been pissed off at T-Mobile and Samsung for not updating my SGS2 soon enough or for long enough, but sometimes the argument that the hardware can't support the software is true. This Apple story rather reminds me of that fact.

So it cuts when the device (iPhone or Android) doesn't get the updates users crave, but it also cuts when the updates kill the phone. I guess it's time for me (and anyone else who hasn't yet) to accept that my expensive phone(s) are to be considered short-term use devices with a life expenctancy of about a year... maybe a year and a half. (And certainly not the duration of the contracts that most people sign in order to get their new shiny.)

Wouldn't it be nice if we could have a more PC like experience with our phones? By that I mean, choose our body/case, display, processor, RAM, storage, radios and all that? I know... too much to hope for. Still, to fight be able osolecence would be nice.

Re:It cuts both ways I guess (1)

foobsr (693224) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845045)

From your ID (erroneus) I infer that this must be a fine piece of sarcasm.

CC.

Re:It cuts both ways I guess (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845497)

Or, you could, for example, keep the perfectly functional operating system you had when you bought the machine. I know, you miss out on the latest shiny and you're vulnerable to some edge case security problem. But it still beeps and whistles like before.

Apple SHOULD do a bit more testing on their upgrades and you'd think because they only have a couple of models of each phone you could manage that, but I guess it's harder than it looks.

I had issue w. battery, recreated my email profile (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42844997)

I solved my 6.1 battery issues by deleting and recreating my two exchange email profile.

Apparently this a common issue after iOS upgrades.

Faster Release Cycles (2)

foobsr (693224) | about a year and a half ago | (#42844999)

Obviously, the release cycles have to be accelerated in order to avoid poor quality control, as faster cycling cycles will ensure that bugs will be found earlier.

CC

Re:Faster Release Cycles (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845131)

and by releasing directly to the public skipping QA, million users can find bug even faster. ;P

ActiveSync and Calendars (5, Informative)

Laser_47 (234412) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845037)

Apparently if you update a calendar item on your iOS device, it tries to update Exchange and fails.

It then retries continuously, chewing through battery life and log files: http://wmpoweruser.com/exchange-server-acting-up-blame-those-ios-6-1-users-then-ban-them/ [wmpoweruser.com] .

No problems on the 5 iOS devices in my house. (1)

sdsucks (1161899) | about a year and a half ago | (#42845113)

Including two iPhone 4S.

No problems w/my Android updates (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845151)

Because the manufacturer of my 1 year old phone has decided that it isn't *worth* updating. No problem - I just installed Cyanogen mod and I'm good ... well, except that the camera isn't supported yet, and the battery life is 1/2 what I get on the manufacturer's ROM.

Suddenly, overheating Apple phones don't look so bad - at least iPhone owners can be reasonably certain that Apple will actually release a fix, in a timely fashion.

LOL (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845185)

LOL @ faggot's.

No problems here!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42845553)

Im posting this from my 4s with iOS 6.1 and as you can see, no battery dra..#=+####|{#*CARRIER_LOST

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