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Valve Officially Launches Steam For Linux

samzenpus posted about a year and a half ago | from the time-to-play dept.

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sl4shd0rk writes "Valve has finally released Steam for Linux. Although some of the 57 games listed on the Linux Steam site are previously released from the Humble Bundles, there are others which should provide adequate entertainment for anyone bored with the HB games. Among the games listed, many at deep discounts of 50%-75% off, are HalfLife, CounterStrke Source and Serious Sam 3. Hopefully Valve will keep the ports coming as rumor has it that Left 4 Dead had been ported at least for developers."

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313 comments

Goodbye Windows (5, Funny)

OhANameWhatName (2688401) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903615)

It was horrible knowing you.

Re:Goodbye Windows (5, Insightful)

MrEricSir (398214) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903653)

You might want to wait on that. At this time, there's only ~100 titles available for Linux, and many of them have aleady been out for a year or so.

Maybe one day Linux will be a platform hardcore gamers will use, but Steam for Linux is just a baby step in that direction. Remember, they've had Steam for OS X for a while now, and there's still only a tiny trickle of games for that platform.

Re:Goodbye Windows (3, Informative)

cwebster (100824) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903685)

Yes, but remember that the OSX version was a contracted 3rd party port while the Linux version is a much better done in-house port that they are basing their future steambox hardware strategy on. Not exactly apples to apples.

Re:Goodbye Windows (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42903707)

no, its apples to penguins.

Re:Goodbye Windows (4, Funny)

Chris Burke (6130) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903775)

Apples to penguins results in an unhappy penguin. Fish to penguins on the other hand leads to fat and happy penguins.

Wait, I think I'm misunderstanding.

Re:Goodbye Windows (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42903831)

No, I think you might be onto something. OpenBSD [wikipedia.org]

Re:Goodbye Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904743)

unhappy fish though

Re:Goodbye Windows (5, Informative)

slimjim8094 (941042) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904821)

Wait, what? I've never heard that the OS X version of Steam was a 3rd party port. In fact, I'm almost certain it wasn't since I was in the Mac Beta and on the email list with the developers (who all have valvesoftware.com email addresses)

Citation, please?

Re:Goodbye Windows (2)

Dusanyu (675778) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903771)

sime titles with linux versions are strangly missing for example doom 3 (wich is still sold on steam)

Re:Goodbye Windows (5, Insightful)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904035)

You might want to wait on that. At this time, there's only ~100 titles available for Linux, and many of them have aleady been out for a year or so.

Maybe one day Linux will be a platform hardcore gamers will use, but Steam for Linux is just a baby step in that direction. Remember, they've had Steam for OS X for a while now, and there's still only a tiny trickle of games for that platform.

What's the problem? The availability of games for Linux just exploded into new numbers, and more are coming all the time. You don't have to wait for every game under the sun to be ported, and that's not the point anyway. Make the switch and enjoy. 2013 is the Year of Linux Gaming.

Re:Goodbye Windows (1, Flamebait)

PhxBlue (562201) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904231)

2013 is the Year of Linux Gaming.

Never heard that line before ... not hating on Linux, but seriously, don't hold your breath.

Re:Goodbye Windows (2)

spire3661 (1038968) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904309)

Yes, but have you ever seen this much movement in the space before?

Re:Goodbye Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904383)

Yes, this happens every 5 years or so. As soon as the next hot Windows-only game comes out, everyone will forget about Linux gaming.

Re:Goodbye Windows (0)

somersault (912633) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904673)

When's the last time there was a hot Windows only game?

Re:Goodbye Windows (3, Funny)

elashish14 (1302231) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904893)

Solitaire?

Re:Goodbye Windows (4, Insightful)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904489)

Never heard that line before ... not hating on Linux, but seriously, don't hold your breath.

A little bit of celebration would not be that out of place, though.

Re:Goodbye Windows (5, Interesting)

zwede (1478355) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904055)

At this time, there's only ~100 titles available for Linux

And a couple of weeks ago there were only 40. If they keep going at this rate things are looking promising!

Re:Goodbye Windows (0, Flamebait)

murdocj (543661) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904323)

So you think in couple of weeks 60 games were ported?

Re:Goodbye Windows (4, Informative)

zwede (1478355) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904395)

No, I think a large number of games are in the process of being ported and 60 of them were completed in the last couple of weeks. More will be finished in the next couple of weeks, etc.

Re:Goodbye Windows (4, Funny)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904761)

Many know this site already, but here is a nice overview of the Linux titles: steamlinux.xpaw.ru [steamlinux.xpaw.ru] . Of course there's the Valve's official list [steampowered.com] too.

Re:Goodbye Windows (4, Funny)

arielCo (995647) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904791)

Obligatory: xkcd: Extrapolating [xkcd.com]

Re:Goodbye Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904685)

Remember, they've had Steam for OS X for a while now, and there's still only a tiny trickle of games for that platform.

That's apples to oranges though, OS X is severly limited by Apple's hardware lock-in. Most of their offerings are not suitable for modern games, only a handful of them even have discrete video cards. The more popular Mini, Air and all the low and mid-tier MBP models use integrated graphcis. The only line they sell with a PCI-E slot is the Mac Pro, which starts at $2500 and makes up a tiny fraction of their user base.

Gaming on Linux has its own issues. Gamers aren't going to switch to Linux until 3d performance is on par with Windows and new "AAA" games start getting ported, but hardware manufactures and game publishers aren't going to make Linux a priority until there is a critical mass of Linux gamers. It's a vicious cycle, I don't know how to break it but I do hope that it happens someday.

Hopefully Steam for Linux is a small step in the right direction. However I don't think it will be enough to get existing Linux users to start buying more games, there just aren't enough of them. Windows gamers are gong to have to start switching, and that is a bit of a tall order at the moment.

Re:Goodbye Windows (2, Interesting)

masternerdguy (2468142) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903741)

So when everyone is playing Vega Strike and Wesnoth on their i7 + Quad Sli setups Linux will win. The problem is there is a massive backlog of games that are never going to be open sourced or ported that only run on Linux. I for one *like* some of those games. Carmack was right when he said that getting WINE up to spec was the most important project for Linux.

Re:Goodbye Windows (1)

masternerdguy (2468142) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903783)

Maximum derpage, "that only run on WINDOWS", sorry.

Re:Goodbye Windows (1)

atheistmonk (1268392) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903811)

Definitely agreed. The biggest thing about Steam going to Linux is the exposure for the platform and the interest it generates. This may help to spur on WINE development even more. When I can play Skyrim, New Vegas and Rocksmith flawlessly in WINE I'm not looking back.

Re:Goodbye Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904031)

Don't hold your breath. Gamers aren't exactly the most helpful, educated, or optimistic bunch. They're more likely to whine about a character's suit being the wrong shade then they are to lift a finger to help out with Wine development.

Re:Goodbye Windows (1)

masternerdguy (2468142) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904129)

Most gamers, like most people, don't have the skillset needed to write a compatibility layer between Linux and Windows applications. Hell, most *developers* don't have that skillset. By your reasoning people who don't like iOS or Android should have to role their own custom phone and OS and market it, otherwise they're just 'whiners'.

Re:Goodbye Windows (1)

deathlyslow (514135) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904173)

That's still helping with development. You have to have testers or else they will never get the bugs squashed. One hey this doesn't look right is whining, that can be dismissed. Several people having the same issue means hey there's a bug here that needs to be looked at. Since when has not being a developer excluded you from being a beta tester?

Re:Goodbye Windows (4, Informative)

cwebster (100824) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904149)

Skyrim (all DLC plus mods) works in wine currently. PlayOnLinux will even do all the work in setting up the wine environment for it to run in.

Re:Goodbye Windows (1)

atheistmonk (1268392) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904321)

Yep, I've successfully run Skyrim and New Vegas, but NV is a bit slow and Skyrim is fine at first but quickly turns into a slideshow, as compared to my Win 7 partition where it's flawless :/ Mind you, I did it out of the box (it's amazing it worked just like that) so it could simply need some extra config. I'll give PlayOnLinux a shot.

Re:Goodbye Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904353)

Wine is too complex for most gamers. Gamers expect a button they push to play and thats it. Idealy this button should autostart when they log in so they don't get confused.

Re:Goodbye Windows (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904835)

I spend enough time screwing around in the Creation Kit and tes5edit getting Skyrim exactly how I like it, I really don't feel like dealing with WINE configuration. Why add another point of failure to an already complex system?

True story: I once had to deal with Dioblo II in WINE repeatedly corrupting my MBR. No, really. I could hardly believe it myself until I saw other reports of the exact same thing on the WINE bug tracker.

Re:Goodbye Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904827)

Definitely agreed. The biggest thing about Steam going to Linux is the exposure for the platform and the interest it generates. This may help to spur on WINE development even more. When I can play Skyrim, New Vegas and Rocksmith flawlessly in WINE I'm not looking back.

You can never get full performance under Wine as there is the DirectX -> OpenGL translation going on.

Re:Goodbye Windows (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42903867)

Not that I have anything against Carmack, but his opinion on Wine was just self-serving nonsense. Valve is currently proving that. If people WANTED another Windows, they would have contributed more to Wine and it would have become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Linux has no need to cater to the wishes of gamers. That's why someone like Valve is necessary. If gamers invested even a tiny fraction of the cumulative time they waste whining about modern video games, Linux would already be where everyone wishes it was.

Re:Goodbye Windows (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904329)

If gamers invested even a tiny fraction of the cumulative time they waste whining about modern video games, Linux would already be where everyone wishes it was.

Yeah, because gamers in general know anything about software development.

You're an asshole. No, really, you're probably the world's largest asshole, in fact. Why? Because if you posted on Slashdot less, clearly, you would have developed a cure for cancer by now.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE CONTINUE TO DIE EACH DAY BECAUSE YOU NEED TO POST HERE?!

Monstrous. Simply monstrous.

Re:Goodbye Windows (1)

blind biker (1066130) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903997)

It was horrible knowing you.

Seconded. I'm sick of Microsoft extremely condescending attitude towards their customers, Microsoft's certainty that whatever crap they cook up, we'll have to like it. With regards to that UI masturbation called Windows 8, we'll "get used to it".

I don't know that Steam on Linux will change much, but it is a good, hefty step in the right direction.

Re:Goodbye Windows (2, Interesting)

atomican (2799855) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904403)

I'm sick of Microsoft extremely condescending attitude towards their customers

I'm sick of the (general) Linux community's extremely condescending attitude towards anyone who thinks Linux has flaws and dares to raise them as something that should be addressed, or that perhaps some things work better in Windows and that using Windows because it works better for particular use cases is perfectly reasonable. But no, everyone has to get emotional for some reason.

With regards to that UI masturbation called Windows 8, we'll "get used to it".

Sounds like the current crop of DEs in Linux. If you are told you have "choice" and can use something else, you apparently can choose DEs like MATE (which are OK but based on dead code), XFCE (which are a bit too simple and lacking in functionality) or Cinnamon (which is OK but still too new). Everything sucks in their own way, and moving to Linux can often just result in transferring the suck from one form to another.

Re:Goodbye Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904589)

...that whatever crap they cook up, we'll have to like it. With regards to that UI masturbation called Windows 8, we'll "get used to it".

Yeah Metro sucks, but what about GNOME 3? and Unity? the initial KDE 4.0?

The Linux community has the same UI problem that Microsoft has right now.

Fortunately, we also have a choice between GNOME, KDE, MATE, E17, XFCE, Cinnamon, LXDE, Fluxbox, Blackbox......and others. ;)

Re:Goodbye Windows (2)

Cito (1725214) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904641)

Good luck playing any modern games on linux

I love linux and I have my 2 slackware boxes and been running slackware since the 2.0.29 kernel.

but I always kept a windows box as my gaming pc, you just won't get any modern games on it, If I want to play modern games, Far Cry 3, Assassins Creed, Mass Effect, Dragon Age franchises such as those, and many countless others I'll stick to windows gaming.

I'm not going to install linux on my i7, 16gig ram, dual evga ftw 670 sli, 120g ssd / wd black 2tb data drive gaming rig to play games that came out 5+ years ago.

and most people with gaming rigs won't unless they dual boot to fuck around with some nostalgia, and definitely not going to pay 20 bucks for some 10 year old game anyhow.

but even with my whining, it is a step in the right direction and I do hope game developers take notice and see that linux users WANT modern games, but it will first mean game developers will HAVE to stop developing for DirectX9/10/11. And you will have a hard time getting that to happen with contracts setup with AMD and Nvidia graphics cards who build their cards around DirectX primarily. With opengl as more an afterthought it seems.

so you will have to get video card companies to change their habits and open up their drivers and support or talk microsoft into bringin directx to linux (never will happen) before any modern game companies will seriously bring their triple A games to linux platform.

Other than indie companies and opengl built games which can be ported much easier. And Java based games such as Towns, Dwarfs, Minecraft, etc.

I propose a (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904689)

to almost being succumbed to keep Windows on a dual boot, but Windows' UEFI didn't like that and we had to choose between Linux and Windows and we need Office products, but not essentially really.. and BYE Windows.

Forever.

Re: Goodbye Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904881)

Wait for windows 9 / blue or uefi 2.0 befor calling that

No 64-bit? (2, Informative)

elvestinkle (2734643) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903699)

No amd64 that I saw. 'package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)' lame.

Re:No 64-bit? (4, Informative)

Dusanyu (675778) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903747)

you have to install 64 bit libraries in Mint or Foobuntu use the comand sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk ia32-libs-sdl

Re:No 64-bit? (1)

masternerdguy (2468142) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903763)

Install your distro's 32 bit compatibility pattern.

Re:No 64-bit? (4, Informative)

zwede (1478355) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904019)

Or switch to a smarter distro? My 64-bit distro fixed it automatically and steam runs fine.

Re:No 64-bit? (1)

BetterSense (1398915) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904099)

Which distro might that be?

Re:No 64-bit? (5, Funny)

zwede (1478355) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904255)

Which distro might that be?

Gentoo.

Re:No 64-bit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904187)

What??? 64-bit systems have been around for ~20 years! Linux has worked 64-bit for a good portion of that. I'm not sure how a technology company can keep a straight face and not do 64-bit *first* and 32-bit later on . . . unless it's an embedded system.

I agree: lame.

Re:No 64-bit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904275)

nor does it have as much space as the nomad.

Re:No 64-bit? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904775)

Well, since this is valve, it's probably a good thing they're limited to 32-bit/4 gigs of ram.

Awesome! (1)

slazzy (864185) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903729)

I've been looking forward to having a gaming Linux box for a long time, I know there aren't a lot of games but I'll buy pretty much whatever is available.

Re:Awesome! (0)

arogier (1250960) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903805)

The number of games they have is growing at least. Now, if only I could buy Linux games on Steam using Bitcoin...

Re:Awesome! (2, Interesting)

masternerdguy (2468142) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904041)

Just got back from their site, the only download is a DEB package for Ubuntu. Where's the RPM and shell installation packages? I feel insulted that we finally get steam for Linux but it only works on Ubuntu.....

Re:Awesome! (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904699)

There is 'alien' for turning RPMs into DEBs, somebody should really hack together 'predator' for turning DEBs into RPMs...

(as for shell, it isn't pretty; but the debian package format is (mostly) friendly enough that you can crack a deb open manually if you really want to.)

Not Re:Awesome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904049)

oh no.. it's hard enough fighting the gamer addiction with the few games Linux has... my productivity is going to take another drop.. unless... I ... can ...resist...

Kerosene (Jet fuel) warning (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42903733)

Who cares, there will never ever be anything that reads deb files on my system and that's all they have

Kerosene (Jet fuel) warning (-1, Flamebait)

bferrell (253291) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903789)

Who cares? All they have is a deb package and there will never, ever be a deb package loaded on my systems

Re:Kerosene (Jet fuel) warning (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42903807)

I can't figure out how to use alien so I don't care.

Neither do we.

Re:Kerosene (Jet fuel) warning (4, Funny)

kestasjk (933987) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903841)

Yeah.. wake me up when they have ported it to the OpenBSD pkgsrc system as part of the official set of packages and maybe I'll think about potentially buying a game. (As long as it contains no DRM and is also part of the OpenBSD pkgsrc system as part of the official set of packages, audited by portaudit, of course.)

Re:Kerosene (Jet fuel) warning (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904723)

Valve here...
We are please to hear that if we port Steam to OpenBSD, add it to OpenBSD's offical set of packages, and remove our DRM that you may potentially buy a game.

We will get started on this right away for you

Re:Kerosene (Jet fuel) warning (1)

IRWolfie- (1148617) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903951)

deb packages are effectively just archives from which you can extract the files. This is why it's available on ArchLinux.

Re:Kerosene (Jet fuel) warning (4, Interesting)

zwede (1478355) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903999)

Your distro can't handle deb? Why not? My Gentoo box just has a thin wrapper around the deb to do the install and make it act like any other Gentoo package. I never see a deb package at all.

Re:Kerosene (Jet fuel) warning (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904067)

Gentoo; the OS of choice of niggers everywhere.

Re:Kerosene (Jet fuel) warning (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904909)

Who cares? All they have is a deb package and there will never, ever be a deb package loaded on my systems

Yes, and there is a reason for that. They can't support a thousand different configurations. Ubuntu is the leading distro and with deb comes it.

Meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42903817)

I think I'd rather have a Nintendo Wii U.

Brace yourselves (3, Funny)

arosas (904929) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903829)

Allow me to summarize the next five or so hours worth of posts:

Blah blah blah, DRM.
Blah blah blah, "in mother russia".
Blah blah blah, "I, for one, welcome our penguin shaped overlords".
Blah blah blah, "gun control".
Blah blah blah "godwin's law".

You're welcome. (on a side note: wooooo!)

Re:Brace yourselves (2)

atomican (2799855) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904461)

Blah blah blah, DRM.
Blah blah blah, "in mother russia".
Blah blah blah, "I, for one, welcome our penguin shaped overlords".
Blah blah blah, "gun control".
Blah blah blah "godwin's law".

I know you're joking but the fact you mention complaining about DRM as part of the joke is disheartening. Yes it's overdone and beating a dead horse at this point, but it's still a serious point to raise and it's important that it never gets forgotten. The fact that games attached with DRM (Steam or otherwise) mean games now have an artificial lifetime attached when they didn't otherwise. Yes you might be able to crack them, but that's besides the point.

SteamOS (2)

threeboy (753488) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903897)

Is this a step towards an optimized valve os built on linux? I don't use linux but it'd be cool.

Re:SteamOS (1, Insightful)

masternerdguy (2468142) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904061)

I hope not. Linux is about openness and nothing is less open than a proprietary esoteric distribution.

Re:SteamOS (1)

threeboy (753488) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904155)

Truedat but what I mean is an optimized build for people who want a game centric experience. Steam itself has a web browser and instant messenger. It could be as much of a stand alone OS as ChromeOS is.

Re:SteamOS (1)

atomican (2799855) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904495)

Indeed, which is why I think this general Linux client is more of a stepping-stone towards Valve building their Steambox. They need Steam working on Linux for it to happen, so having a client for regular Linux users is a natural part of the process.

Re:SteamOS (1)

threeboy (753488) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904611)

...and then having a Steam-centric build of Linux for people to build their own SteamBoxes from old computers would be neat.

Re:SteamOS (2)

cblguy2 (1796986) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904675)

My son plays a lot on Steam (TF2 mostly). If there were a Steam-centric distro available right now to run on a live disc, I'd download it *tonight* and run it. I don't feel like futzing with an Ubuntu live disc right now, or stomping all over his Windows install right now. Drop in a disc and run, though, with the Steam client already installed? Sign us up.

Re:SteamOS (1)

OhANameWhatName (2688401) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904345)

I don't use linux but it'd be cool.

Sounds like you've got a project to do.

Re:SteamOS (1)

threeboy (753488) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904439)

I got enough projects that don't make me money already!

Re:SteamOS (1)

ArsonSmith (13997) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904661)

You should try some that don't. It's very rewarding.

The Valentines Bundle 2.0 (4, Informative)

tuppe666 (904118) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903927)

Just for information really with Serious Sam 3: BFE is available cheaper :) here

http://www.indieroyale.com/ [indieroyale.com]

Downloading serious sam now (5, Informative)

zwede (1478355) | about a year and a half ago | (#42903967)

I'm running 64-bit Gentoo and noticed Steam in the portage tree so I installed it. Works fine. Tried the free TF2 and it worked perfectly. Just bought SS3 for $8 and it's downloading. Valve is great!

Will this run from a Ubuntu on a USB stick (4, Interesting)

tuppe666 (904118) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904105)

Ok I wasn't sure I decided if how I felt about steam on Linux...more I suspect that the too negative header to this discussion, when down the side I spotted "Try Linux - Grab Ubuntu Desktop; Ubuntu is our favorite version of Linux. Interested in giving it a whirl? You can install and run Ubuntu from a Live CD or USB stick, or install it to run alongside Windows."

Is that "holy shit I can carry all my steam games around on my USB stick" take it around to my friends...or even work, play a few rounds of team fortress, without any changes to the machine...because if that is true, that is bigger news to me than Steam on Linux, this is Quake Arena/Doom again, only with a raft of cheap choices. I can finally play people I know. [and share an experience with], and socialise with, rather than anonymous strangers on-line [I would rather play off-line than that].

Re:Will this run from a Ubuntu on a USB stick (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904457)

The current Ubuntu live preview will probably not work out of the box.
You will need the nividia/intel/ati 3D drivers for most games. These are not included by default on the live preview.
You will also need the i386 versions of some libraries if you use the 64bit version.
And I don't know what the redistribution license is for the Steam client.

And finally, you will need enough space on the USB drive to store all your games. TF2 alone is around 12GB.
And then there is the issue of slow load times due to reading from a USB drive.

If not already available, I would say its just a matter of time before there is a disc image with 3D drivers and steam built in.

Re:Will this run from a Ubuntu on a USB stick (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904813)

Of course it can run on a USB stick. Step by step:
1) Install Ubuntu or some other distro on the stick (use http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ if you're on Windows). Remember to allow it to change the data on the stick so you can install games on it later! If you don't know what you're doing you might want the 32-bit version of Ubuntu, otherwise you'll have to install the lib32 stuff.
2) Boot into your stick
3) Install graphic drivers, etc (you'll probably want the closed-source packages). If using Ubuntu it'll automatically ask you if you want the proprietary stuff
4) Install Steam
5) Login, install games
6) Have fun with your new portable GNU/Linux OS
7) Buy a USB stick with more memory

This is what I get after installing in Debian x64 (1)

TheDarkener (198348) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904107)

(in testing):

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thedarkener@c64:~$ steam /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6) /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6) /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6) /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /home/thedarkener/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6)
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I saw the above post regarding the i386 libs and I was sure that I had already installed them previously (and confirmed with the following:)

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thedarkener@c64:~$ sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk ia32-libs-sdl
Place your finger on the fingerprint reader

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package ia32-libs-sdl
thedarkener@c64:~$ sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
ia32-libs is already the newest version.
ia32-libs-gtk is already the newest version.
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Any ideas?

Re:This is what I get after installing in Debian x (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904487)

You need libc6 upgraded to 2.15 or later; the only suitable version in Debian repos is 2.17 in experimental.
It may be possible to install the ia32* packages in a chroot.

Or you might try something risky like binary-patching with
sed 's/\(GLIBC_2\.\)15/\113/g' /path/to/steam/binaries

Re:This is what I get after installing in Debian x (1)

LaughingRadish (2694765) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904627)

Here's a Steam installer for Wheezy: https://gist.github.com/grindars/4231563 [github.com] . It only installs per user, not for the whole system, but so far, it works.

Re:This is what I get after installing in Debian x (2)

deek (22697) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904877)

As mentioned by someone else, this is because Debian doesn't have libc6 ver 2.15. You have to download the ubuntu libc6 libraries, and extract them to your ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/ directory.

There are debian testing install scripts for Steam which will automatically do this for you. Go forth and search for them.

Also, don't install the ia32-libs package. Enable multiarch support in Debian: dpkg --add-architecture i386
You can now install individual i386 library packages, instead of having one large package.

Linux != Ubuntu (2)

egr (932620) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904125)

Ubuntu is a Linux, but Linux is not Ubuntu. As far as I can see they've only released for Ubuntu. And yeah... I know I can make it work through some hoops on other systems (and I do), but that's not the point!

Re:Linux != Ubuntu (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904203)

The real reason they're doing this is to test the new Ubuntu £inux phones. Those phones have experimental GPS tracking ribbons that transmit your location to the NSA from anywhere in the world along with a list of all the files on your phone. These are the same tracking ribbons used in 20 dollar bills. They have internal power supplies that are as thin as, well, paper, and are based on dark projects. Ubuntu phone is the next step.

Re:Linux != Ubuntu (4, Informative)

zwede (1478355) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904361)

As far as I can see they've only released for Ubuntu.

Not true. Valve only _supports_ ubuntu. Other distros are welcome to add steam to their package managers. For instance, Gentoo has steam in their repo. It's a thin wrapper package. When you install it, it makes sure all dependencies are met and then downloads steam from valve's server and installs it. All this is automagic as far as the user is concerned.

Re:Linux != Ubuntu (0)

egr (932620) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904533)

How is that not true when you said it yourself : "Valve only supports Ubuntu" and the title of the article clearly states: "Valve Officially Launches Steam For Linux". If you only support one distribution you should probably say that. I still remember when I bought version of Guitar Pro for 6 "Linux" during release. I could not run it properly since then.

Make use of all of those Humble Bundle Steam Keys! (1)

pecosdave (536896) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904181)

Not that the Steam Keys make a huge difference to me. I've been using my Ubuntu Software Center keys anyways, so uhmmm software inception?

I've finally got a reason (2)

ozduo (2043408) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904227)

to upgrade from 10.04 Lucid

As a Windows user... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904241)

I installed Ubuntu for a promotional TF2 hat (and to see how well the game runs). There's still definitely some work to be done on the Linux client, like making it natively compatible with AMD64. It took me the better part of two hours to actually get the client running (though a lot of that was waiting for ia32-libs to install) and fewer than 80 of my 600+ games are compatible with Linux, so I don't think I'll be switching over to Linux as my primary OS anytime soon. What I'm curious about is how Valve plans to get publishers to sign up for Linux releases.

Stop complaining about no 64-bit Steam (1)

atomican (2799855) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904293)

I simply don't understand why people complain about no 64-bit version of Steam when the games running on Steam are basically all 32-bit anyway, and so you'll have to pull down those 32-bit libraries to use Steam for its intended purpose anyway, regardless of the arch of the client.

As a side note, I'm considerably mixed about Steam for Linux since it means more Linux games... locked to Steam. I would have preferred separate DRM-free installers for things like Serious Sam 3 that didn't require a vendor-hosted platform (and hence having to ensure your account is in good health and the game's lifetime being limited to how long Valve remains around), but apparently that was too much to ask, otherwise we'd have more commercial games before Steam on Linux anyway.

Good news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904327)

This means we might finally be able to pin down a linux distro with some substantial software investment.
Currently there are far too many fuck forks all over the place it's a wonder anyone even knows what Linux is anymore.

This way we'll have a yardstick to measure a distro by. "Does it run Steam? No. Bye bye."

Recent firings? (-1, Flamebait)

Roachie (2180772) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904453)

Could this be the reason for the recent firing at valve?

In my neck of the woods, delivering a release is a time for great trepidation as companies realize that they are not going to need quite so many those overpaid typists now that the product is out.

Re:Recent firings? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42904765)

unlikely http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/13/valve-gabe-newell-layoffs-statement/

Re:Recent firings? (2)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904823)

Wow, thought you were joking for a second but I see it is indeed true.
http://www.diffchecker.com/h14Uhs74 [diffchecker.com]
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/122119-Valves-Newell-Issues-Firings-Statement [escapistmagazine.com]

Looks like Valve is focusing on the Steam Box + Linux.

Valventine (1)

future assassin (639396) | about a year and a half ago | (#42904737)

she loves Mr Penguin.

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