Beta

Slashdot: News for Nerds

×

Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

cancel ×

48 comments

ubuntu (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42986351)

Ubuntu £inux is the root cause of bad government. Did you know that Ubuntu collects your personal information and files and sends them to the NSA and Amazon for inspection? Reputable companies like Apple, Google, and Microsoft never disclose your personal information. Did you know that Ubuntu can't run the smash hit Aliens: Colonial Marines (on its war to becoming the game of the year 2013)? Who could use such shitty software! Shuttleworth likes to talk about how advanced their tablets and phones will be when they hit market, but they contains black ops GPS tracking ribbons (the kind used to track you using $20) bills. Why aren't any of these heavily advertised products on the market yet? Some believe that the technology to build them doesn't exist yet, and they are waiting for delivery.... Does this mean that Shuttleworth is involved in a conspiracy with aliens? I don't know, I'm just asking questions. I personally installed Windows 8 and signed up for the cloud, and now I have a worry free desktop. Microsoft is doing their best to beat back the Ubuntu monopolists but so far the Canonical conspiracy is unbeatable.

Re:ubuntu (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42986403)

Smoke another one... lol

Re:ubuntu (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42988247)

That is the best troll I have read in ages!

Re:ubuntu (1)

Robert Zenz (1680268) | about a year and a half ago | (#42988401)

You must be lamest troll on the planet, seriously our are [verifiedfacts.org] .

Admit It (4, Funny)

xstonedogx (814876) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986383)

You read that as Ubuntu Touch Porn-a-Thon.

Re:Admit It (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42986415)

Actually, I read it as Ubuntu Touch Port-a-Jon

Re:Admit It (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42986551)

I did, honest to goodness, I really did read the title as "porn-a-thon". And I found myself thinking that "touch" technology must have really taken a new turn.

Re:Admit It (1)

enjar (249223) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986745)

I actually parsed it as "Port-A-John" first. A whole new meaning to open source hardware.

Re:Admit It (1)

yathaid (2106468) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986751)

Nope.
(Goes to the corner and hangs head in shame)

Re:Admit It (0)

LoRdTAW (99712) | about a year and a half ago | (#42987187)

I was just going to post that. Damn it.

Re:Admit It (0)

riverat1 (1048260) | about a year and a half ago | (#42987553)

You beat me to it.

N900 (3, Interesting)

RoccamOccam (953524) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986555)

I wonder if the resistive touchscreen of the N900 would eliminate the chances of a port.

Re:N900 (4, Informative)

Microlith (54737) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986563)

Doubtful, though multitouch features wouldn't work. The lack of RAM and slow processor would be far greater inhibitors.

Re:N900 (1)

RoccamOccam (953524) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986951)

That's what I mean. Are there critical multitouch gestures in the UI that can't reasonably be replaced?

Re:N900 (1)

SpzToid (869795) | about a year and a half ago | (#42988423)

Okay, then I wonder if the resistive touchscreen of the N900 would eliminate the chances of a port to something like a Raspberry Pi?

Re:N900 (1)

Rhys (96510) | about a year and a half ago | (#42988889)

I don't know what is in the N900, but the current builds of Ubuntu are sluggish on a Galaxy Nexus (though nice and smooth on a Nexus 4). I would guess that means the N900 would be a slideshow.

working for million shuttleworth for free? no thx (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42986571)

Aren't you sick of working for free so some big money dickhead at Redhat, Ubuntu or IBM can get rich? Meanwhile you're in your mom's basement and can't get laid while Millionaire Space Tourist And Ubuntu Owner Mark Shuttleworth pounds premium pussy and laughs at all you nerds working for him for free...

Re:working for million shuttleworth for free? no t (1)

gmuslera (3436) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986793)

Ask Oracle regarding MySQL... you can always fork MySQL if you don't like Oracle direction, can you do that with Windows or OS/X? With open source you have the option.

In fact, with the porting guide Ubuntu is giving to the community the control, they target is to bundle it with phones under their brand or companies that have an agreement with them. Port this to the devices you want, provided that had enough hardware support to run it. So far don't seem have ned connection to be tied to the company as Android do so if you want to do your own flavor probably the license will enable you to do it.

Or just develop for it and the other ones that share the same ecosystem, Sailfish, Tizen, Mer, KDE Active Plasma, BB10, Meego and probably others use Qt/QML as base, develop for it and will probably work in all with minimal effort, without being tied to a single platform.

Re:working for million shuttleworth for free? no t (1)

monkeyhybrid (1677192) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986869)

Who care's if some people get to make bucket loads of cash off of open source? And for whatever money the likes of Mr Shuttleworth make off it (and good on them, I say), there's a lot of money being poured back into OS projects that we get to enjoy the fruits of for free. We're all profiting from the hard work of developers in some way or other.

Re:working for million shuttleworth for free? no t (1)

monkeyhybrid (1677192) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986873)

*cares, not care's.

Edit buttons are much needed, Slashdot!

Re:working for million shuttleworth for free? no t (0)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year and a half ago | (#42987671)

and if you typed that from an ubuntu system, they now know everything you just said.

re: ubuntu; its now poisoned fruit. I can't trust them and won't ever install their stuff again. the company I work for was going to deploy ubuntu but I have warned them that, since the keylogging went public, no one should deploy their code, libs, distro.

sorry, but you get one chance to screw yourselves, ubuntu, and sadly, you took that.

game over.

no matter what you do, game over afaiac.

Re:working for million shuttleworth for free? no t (1)

HJED (1304957) | about a year and a half ago | (#42988253)

[citation needed]

There's not much worth porting yet (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42986687)

From what little I've played with it, Ubuntu Touch is nothing but a glorified chroot on top of a bare-bones Cyanogen install. Which is good as it eliminates the overhead of standard Android, but I expected something a little more bare metal.
My biggest surprise was the fact that they included the standard 12.10 repo. I was able to install SSH (real OpenSSH not dropbear) per their instructions and install anything I wanted. Pianobar (a shell Pandora client) worked wonderfully with the included ALSA driver. Last time I tried this in a Android chroot, the Android system had a lock on the sound system I couldn't break, so there's hope for better audio apps at least.
Next I want to try getting Xorg running which seems doable.
Of course all this is useless if you have the SSH via USB or Wifi to do it, but it's a good start.

Re:There's not much worth porting yet (1)

gTsiros (205624) | about a year and a half ago | (#42988201)

Wow, that's lame...

I, as many others I'm sure, expected this to be a "proper" linux port for devices that previously ran the whole android deal.

Re:There's not much worth porting yet (2)

nhaines (622289) | about a year and a half ago | (#42989265)

Why would you expect that? It's a developer preview with the API and SDK frameworks so that developers can start testing their applications on the actual devices instead of an interface simulator on the computer. They've been nothing but clear about this since they announced it in January.

The "proper" Linux port will be finished in time for Ubuntu 13.10.

iPhone? (2)

alexmipego (903944) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986697)

Today I was looking for an iPhone port, I wish they did it if possible. It would be very cool indeed.

Re:iPhone? (1)

NemosomeN (670035) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986719)

If iPhone support is anywhere on the to-do list, it's at the bottom.

Touchpad (5, Interesting)

skine (1524819) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986703)

Fingers crossed that soon I'll be able to treble boot WebOS, Android and Ubuntu on my HP Touchpad.

Re:Touchpad (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42986757)

You need to reevaluate your life, son.

Re:Touchpad (1)

gmuslera (3436) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986837)

Or Meego, Nitdroid and Ubuntu in my N9. But knowing the Maemo/Meego ecosystem, probably will be a compatibility layer to run unchanged binaries for Ubuntu in Meego. It eventually could exist for WebOS too.

Re:Touchpad (4, Funny)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year and a half ago | (#42987755)

I'll be able to treble boot

if you do that, all your bass will belong to ubuntu, then!

Re:Touchpad (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43032859)

Are you talking about Ubuntu touch or ported desktop version of Ubuntu? Either of the version is fine for me, can you help me in installing it on my Touchpad?
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486757&op=Reply&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=42986703

So, what's the verdict? (1)

monkeyhybrid (1677192) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986739)

So, to all those with compatible hardware and willingness to test out these installs, what do you think so far?

Seeing as these images are packaged for devices that were originally running Android, how does it compare to Android in terms of responsiveness, features, ease of use, intuitiveness, eye candy, etc? Any glitches, glaring ommissions? Any really cool features?

And what's the 'Linux' side of it like? Can you pull up a terminal and do general sys admin type stuff on one of these things? Does it have well populated repositories with packages we've come to take for granted on our desktops and servers?

Re:So, what's the verdict? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42986789)

There is a serious lack of features still. GSM data doesn't even work, and the only apps are the dialer, web browser, video player and camera.
Eye candy would be nice if it wasn't full of fake data and static images (see calculator and weather apps)
It's a chroot environment running on top of a bare-bones Android install (Cyanogen kernel, actually). It's based off 12.10 and actually includes the standard repo, so you can install anything that's been compiled for arm (or compile it yourself, godforbid) There's no terminal app, so you have to do all this remotely. You can try installing X11, but I wasn't able to get it to work. I think the Touch UI is locking the framebuffer. (if X even has support for it)

Re:So, what's the verdict? (1)

monkeyhybrid (1677192) | about a year and a half ago | (#42986927)

No terminal!? Nice to know it still has the standard repositories though. I guess once you've logged in remotely (SSH presumably?) you could apt-get install a terminal application for local use?

I had a quick look at a few of the Youtube videos of it that have popped up over last few hours so see what you mean about fake data and static images for applications. Seems there's quite a bit missing at the moment.

Re:So, what's the verdict? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42987093)

"Seems there's quite a bit missing at the moment."

Hardly anything implemented would be more apt.

Re:So, what's the verdict? (2)

mhall119 (1035984) | about a year and a half ago | (#42988653)

Development of the Terminal application is underway and open to anybody who wants to contribute to it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Terminal [ubuntu.com]

And yes, there is a lot that hasn't been implemented yet. This is a Developer Preview, meant to give app developers something to play with and deploy Ubuntu SDK apps on, and also to make the source code available to anybody who wants to hack on it (and we hope contribute those hacks back to us).

Re:So, what's the verdict? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42987075)

The interface is pretty sluggish and the app selection is very minimal. I would recommend most people hold off for now unless you are a die hard Ubuntu fan or plan on developing apps for the OS. It's an interesting concept and I think the UI looks cool (people that like Unity may disagree with me here.) The whole idea of using swipe gestures as opposed to buttons that always remain on screen is also something that differentiates itself from Android and iOS.

I tried it on the Nexus 10 and I'm interested to see how the dual-pane/multi-tasking features will work in practice after watching the video with Mark Shuttleworth showing it off.

Re:So, what's the verdict? (1)

DFurno2003 (739807) | about a year and a half ago | (#42989075)

I think we shouldn't jump the shark.

Working Free For Canonical (-1, Troll)

enter to exit (1049190) | about a year and a half ago | (#42987139)

Work for free so Shuttleworth can abuse his users? That sounds like something i'd love to do.

If canonical is going to do things in secret, ignore privacy concerns and adopt an apple like "we know best" attitude they should just hire people to fix their software. You've got to be pretty naive to work on an Canonical product at this point.

Re:Working Free For Canonical (1, Flamebait)

jasauders (2834617) | about a year and a half ago | (#42987377)

Spare us your whining.

Re:Working Free For Canonical (2)

jampola (1994582) | about a year and a half ago | (#42987427)

Completely uncalled for. I fail to see how this "abuses" "his" users? Last time I remember, people weren't "working" for Canonical per se but working towards making x phone usable with Ubuntu.

Re:Working Free For Canonical (1)

andydread (758754) | about a year and a half ago | (#42987513)

Astroturf much?

devices (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42988095)

How hard would it have been to list the devices in the summary?

My device is missing! (1)

polyp2000 (444682) | about a year and a half ago | (#42988409)

HP Touchpad please!

Just let it die (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42991105)

No Thanks. Ubuntu is becoming the M$ of the Linux world, with recent moves selling out their users. I'm sticking with Android.

Re:Just let it die (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43039815)

Erm, how is Android not worse?

Check for New Comments
Slashdot Account

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?

Don't worry, we never post anything without your permission.

Submission Text Formatting Tips

We support a small subset of HTML, namely these tags:

  • b
  • i
  • p
  • br
  • a
  • ol
  • ul
  • li
  • dl
  • dt
  • dd
  • em
  • strong
  • tt
  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>
Create a Slashdot Account

Loading...