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HP Back In Tablet Game With Android-Based 'Slate7'

Soulskill posted about a year and a half ago | from the unique-and-special-just-like-everyone-else's-tablet dept.

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theodp writes "You know the old adage, 'Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me?' Still, even if you got bit by the HP TouchPad debacle, HP's newly-announced $169 Slate7 tablet could prove hard to resist. Specs-wise, the Slate7 sports an ARM Dual Core Cortex-A9 1.6 GHz processor, 7-inch 1024x600 HFFS screen, Android 4.1 (Jellybean), three-megapixel camera on the back, front-facing VGA camera, 8GB of on-board storage, HP ePrint, Beats Audio, and a micro SD expandable card slot. It measures 197mm x 116mm x 10.7mm thick, and weighs in at 13 ounces. It will be available in the U.S. in April. Engadget has some pics and their initial hands-on take."

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Kindle HD (0)

flyingfsck (986395) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001321)

Well, so far I haven't found something that beats the sound of the Kindle HD, but it is tempting to buy this thing just because it runs stock Android.

Re:Kindle HD (5, Insightful)

Threni (635302) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001365)

Nexus 7 (pure Android), or Nexus 10 (pure Android, larger, loads more powerful). Don't see the point of saving a little money for some crappy customised machine. There's no problem looking at pdfs, movies etc on any Android device, so no advantage in Amazon hardware.

Prime video and Kindle Owners Lending Library (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43003805)

Don't see the point of saving a little money for some crappy customised machine. There's no problem looking at pdfs, movies etc on any Android device

I thought only Kindle Fire devices could get Amazon Prime video and Kindle Owners Lending Library in countries where available.

Re:Kindle HD (1)

Erythros (140001) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001465)

The original Touchpad has phenomenal sound. Combined with Android can't beat it.

Re:Kindle HD (2)

saihung (19097) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001515)

Indeed. The audio from my Touchpad with ICS is better than what comes out of my laptop speakers, and better than anything I've heard from another tablet of any description.

The debacle over the Touchpad / webOS was thanks to Apothekeer and the total failure to promote the damned things, or to push bugfixes out in a timely fashion. It didn't have to end that way.

Re:Kindle HD (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001493)

Re:Kindle HD (1)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002065)

A number of news agencies were quoting cnet, who have pulled the story???

The story mentioned only tvs but you'd think the (ex-palm) LG folks would port openwebOS to the LG Nexus 4 fairly quickly if management requested it.

Re:Kindle HD (2)

blackest_k (761565) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001525)

Doesn't seem to be all that good it is missing a few things, it does have 1Gb of ram and bluetooth 2.1
what isn't said is GPS? Glass Screen? USB Host? HDMI? Multitouch ? confused reports of 3meg camera and 0.3 meg Camera on board.

It is not very good and not even on that price point (+ taxes?)

For a new product it has out dated Specifications The Ram onboard Should be at least 2 GB and it has lost me already with no gps or hdmi, even 1 full sized host usb port was too much to ask for the screen resolution is too low.

It's just another junky tablet, its "beats" branding and HP name is not enough to make it anything like desirable. Just another nail in the coffin for HP unfortunately.

Re:Kindle HD (1)

wed128 (722152) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001719)

I dunno...It has similar price and specs to a lot of super poorly-made chinese tablets. Those are tempting, an HP badge makes them moreso...

Re:Kindle HD (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001679)

This thing's about on par with the first-gen Kindle Fire. I don't know what HP thinks they're doing here. The Android market is pretty competitive, you can't just shit in a box and have it sell.

Re:Kindle HD (2)

synapse7 (1075571) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001931)

I think the HP should be closer to the $99-149 range given those specs, otherwise you would be crazy not to get the Nexus. Hardware advantages aside, the software updates alone would be worth the extra money.

Re:Kindle HD (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43002285)

I bought a Nexus 7 and returned it immediately due to the crappy screen they put in them. Horrible ghosting problems. [androidpolice.com]

It's no wonder they were so cheap. They are made of crap components, which isn't too surprising because they are made by ASUS. ASUS used to be one of the best brands in computer tech, but in recent years their quality is shit.

Re:Kindle HD (1)

Eugriped3z (1549589) | about a year and a half ago | (#43003753)

Well, so far I haven't found something that beats the sound of the Kindle HD, but it is tempting to buy this thing just because it runs stock Android.

I don't relish turning control of my device or experience over to Amazon whose goal is to dominate the world's retail sales without regard for quality or the ramifications or source, process or politics. In short I don't trust Amazon's motivations because they don't seem to think beyond the common trappings of capitalism. That being said, neither HP or Google has yet to earn the right to claim a higher level of overall responsibility or accountability to much other than the bottom line. The microSD card slot is a welcome improvement but a 3 mega-pixel camera... really?

The innovation we've come to expect from HP (4, Insightful)

MrEricSir (398214) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001335)

This represents the innovation we've come to expect from HP -- none at all.

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (5, Insightful)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001451)

My thoughts exactly. Compare it to the Nexus 7:

- Shit screen
- Shit CPU
- Shit camera
- Old version of Android
- Usual HP "quality"

About the only thing it has going for it is the SD card slot, which would put it on a par with Chinese tablets costing half the price except that it will inevitably have HP's bloatware pre-installed and un-removable instead of vanilla Android.

It's a first step (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001565)

Part of the problem with HP is they make an entry into a market, and its not perfect and they turn and run immediately. WebOS was a case in point, overpriced, not perfect, immediately dumped. No attempt to refine it and retry.

Here Android tablets have moved on from this, they'll need to have a few stabs at this to get it right. But they won't, they'll turn and run.

history point Re:It's a first step (1)

Fubari (196373) | about a year and a half ago | (#43005319)

HP bought WebOS as part of Palm in 2010; if the Pre phone and all that had stayed under Palm's control I think it would have have done well in the market. The only thing I trust HP to do is shoot themselves in the foot and then say setting a few billion dollars on fire was somehow "strategic".
I'll be quite surprised to see HP actively supporting this tablet thing in 2015. HP doesn't blink when deciding to flush a technology or an acquisition. "Oops we did it again!" would be a fine HP corporate motto.
After owning an orphaned phone and a orphaned color laser printer (yeah, why would I ever want a 64 bit windows driver, you bastards!) I would need a pretty amazing reason to buy anything from HP.

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (1)

peragrin (659227) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001571)

hey be fair it is only one version of android behind current.

At least it isn't shipping with 2.3

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (1)

Shados (741919) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001881)

not being a nexus, it won't get updates very quickly at all if history is anything to go by. Thats a bigger problem.

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (1)

DrXym (126579) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001591)

Most Chinese tablets are 800x480. It does seem pretty blah though.

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (3, Insightful)

blind biker (1066130) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001769)

- Shit camera

The Nexus 7 has an even shittier camera.

And I am a proud owner of a Nexus 7, but the camera really isn't anything to write home about.

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (3, Insightful)

blind biker (1066130) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001795)

To add to my sibling comment: the Slate 7 has a rear-facing 3 MP camera. Not fantastic, but much better than 0 MP rear facing camera of my Nexus 7.

The CPU of the Slate 7 is somewhat comparable to that of the Nexus 7.

So, while I love my Nexus 7 and think it's still the best value for money you can get (outside the Nexus 10, which is just phenomenal value for money - you get the absolute best tablet on the market at any price), I don't think the Slate 7 is a clear loser in all aspects, to the Nexus 7.

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (1)

jacknifetoaswan (2618987) | about a year and a half ago | (#43004175)

Do people, other than iFans, actually take pictures with their tablets? I've never done it with my TouchPad (running CM9), and I don't know anyone else with a non-Apple tablet that actually uses them for pictures, especially since phones are much easier to maneuver, and typically have much better cameras.

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43006141)

Well that and the fact that you look like a total douche doing it:

http://peopletakingpictureswithipads.tumblr.com/

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (1)

synapse7 (1075571) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001941)

on a par with Chinese tablets costing half the price

Wait for the fire sale and then it should be competitive.

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (2)

Lawrence_Bird (67278) | about a year and a half ago | (#43003197)

Having just bought and reviewed [gedankenexperiment.dk] a "Chinese" tablet I can say the HP's specs are way too low to compete. They seem to be designing in slow motion. I got the Hyundai T7 (a tablet "made" by a Korean company in China by....Samsung) and it has a 1280x800 IPS with same cpu/gpu as the GSIII for $148+ship. Battery life not the greatest (a design choice), but most people can probably live with it (does anyone really watch 8 hours straight of video?). Outside of that it performs quite well and has sd,usb and hdmi. Why can't the major players give us that? The reality is that the hardware of the non-famous names is rapidly catching up, if not equalling, that of the popular brands. But at a significantly lower price.

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (1)

ThorGod (456163) | about a year and a half ago | (#43005397)

Umm, the HP actually has the next generation of the Tegra 3 CPU, so you can't call that part of it shit.

You can definitely call the screen shit, though.

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (1)

Quinn Vinlove (2841469) | about a year and a half ago | (#43005845)

My thoughts exactly. Compare it to the Nexus 7:

- Shit screen - Shit CPU - Shit camera - Old version of Android - Usual HP "quality"

About the only thing it has going for it is the SD card slot, which would put it on a par with Chinese tablets costing half the price except that it will inevitably have HP's bloatware pre-installed and un-removable instead of vanilla Android.

yeah, I could probably pick up an android tablet with the same specs from aliexpress for 75 bucks and it would function the same except for the logo on the back

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (2)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001775)

This represents the innovation we've come to expect from HP -- none at all.

They are just tapping into the well of competence that they obtained by buying Compaq's consumer division:

1. Purchase cheap chinese shit from ODM.

2. Apply once-respected label.

3. Profit!(and, if you don't, fire the engineers and let your stock options ride the bump, either way...)

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002803)

This is how most of the companies work today, though. Viewsonic, same thing, they don't make anything any more and it's all rebadging. And they were once one of the best names in computer electronics...

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (1, Funny)

theVarangian (1948970) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001781)

This represents the innovation we've come to expect from HP -- none at all.

What do you expect? HP is the corporate equivalent of Wally [wikipedia.org] .

Re:The innovation we've come to expect from HP (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year and a half ago | (#43004031)

By a strange coincidence “None at all” is exactly how much suspicion the ape-descendant Arthur Dent had that one of his closest friends was not descended from an ape, but was, in fact, from a small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse. Arthur Dent's failure to suspect this reflects the care with which his friend blended himself into human society - after a fairly shaky start. When he first arrived fifteen years ago, the minimal research he had done had suggested to him that the name ‘Ford Prefect' would be nicely inconspicuous. He will enter our story in thirty-five seconds and say “Hello, Arthur.” The ape-descendant will greet him in return, but in deference to a million years of evolution, he will not attempt to pick fleas off him; Earthmen are not proud of their ancestors and never invite them round to dinner.

1024x600 (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001351)

Good thing it runs Android, the resolution is too low for the Windows 8 start screen.

Re:1024x600 (1)

sdnoob (917382) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001369)

they couldn't at least hit 1280x720 for 720p video? what the hell........

Re:1024x600 (1)

Fri13 (963421) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001683)

And what is the problem as the 720p will downscale nicely to that 1027x600?

Yes you get little bars but if that is such a HUGE problem then don't buy anything.

1280x800 would really be ideal for web pages scales and sharpness but I don't mind 1024x600 resolution in 7" display, but on 10" display it is little "small".

Re:1024x600 (0)

fnj (64210) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001833)

1024x600 is an absolute insult. Too shitty to even be a half decent toy, let alone a useful appliance. The threshold of acceptability is 800 the short way, and that's pretty pathetic. 900 and up is where any current product should aim.

Re:1024x600 (1)

smchris (464899) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002099)

Yes. I've already had the Aspire One netbook experience so it's a deal breaker. $30 is a mighty small investment in a better daily experience with a Nexus 7.

It is a 7 inch screen... (2)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002329)

I have a Blackberry Playbook with exactly the same screen resolution and it is perfectly usable. The simple fact is that on a 7 inch screen anything over about 1000 by 600, for most people over 30, is just marketing boasting. Of course Slashdot is infested with people who have golden eyes, like the "audiophile" golden ears, but really 1000 by 600 on a 7 inch screen is at least as good perceptually as 1280 by 768 on a 10 inch.

The problem for HP, as for RIM, is that being technically right does not help to sell what for many people is a fashion item.

Goldeneye (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43003993)

Of course Slashdot is infested with people who have golden eyes

I thought GameFAQs would have a higher concentration of the best-loved James Bond game on the Nintendo 64 and Wii consoles, but whatever.

But seriously, I can clearly see the difference in text quality between a PDF in Aldiko on a friend's Kindle Fire (600p) and the same PDF in Aldiko on my Nexus 7 (800p), and I'm already 32.

Re:1024x600 (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | about a year and a half ago | (#43005203)

I don't know about that. There's a ton of 15 inch laptops out there with 1300x768 resolution, which is way worse DPI than a 7 inch tablet with a 1024x600 resolution. Sure it's not up there with the iPad or Nexus 10, but it's perfectly fine for watching a few vidoes or browsing the web.

Re:1024x600 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43002143)

Scaling video well on LCD requires going up or down in multiples of two and/or using extra processes which costs battery life.

great name!! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001353)

slate 7? come on.. seriously?

i get it.. it's the size of the screen, but how many returns from clueless people expecting windows 7 on it?

Re:great name!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001367)

I was thinking 7 in the series of slates.... but I guess people clueless about technology and could just as easily misinterpret this despite there being tens of thousands of products with 7 versions having been released. 7 after all isn't a very common thing to include in a product name (sarcasm).

Re:great name!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001499)

Or perhaps it's the "slate" part of the name that could cause the confusion.

Re:great name!! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001553)

I dunno.

How many people returned the Nexus 7 because they thought it had Windows 7?

Re:great name!! (5, Funny)

WizardFusion (989563) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001749)

I got a Nexus 10, where's my Windows 10? :)

Re:great name!! (1)

Pieroxy (222434) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002071)

I got a Nexus 10, where's my Windows 10? :)

Don't worry, it's coming. If the progression between Windows 7 and Windows 8 is to be extrapolated, it will have 5 different UIs, weight 512GB and will have IE 17 installed. The same battery life though.

But make no mistake: It's coming.

Re:great name!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43002281)

Slate 7 - you know it's good not like Slates 1 through 6. The slates that failed.

not enough killer trout (1)

Thud457 (234763) | about a year and a half ago | (#43005125)

Everyone know that the even-numberd Leonard [wikipedia.org] movies suck.

Re:great name!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43004409)

people don't go to google looking for windows hardware... so not as many people that have bought a "slate" tablet or an hp computer and got windows.....

the old hp 'slate' (slate 500) had windows 7.. now the 'slate 7' doesn't.

makes perfect sense.

Re:great name!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001809)

No one, except you apparently.

Re:great name!! (2)

CAIMLAS (41445) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002203)

What does "slate" have to do with Windows 7, exactly?

I know, I know... I had the same problem when I bought a used 2007 Nissan. I totally expected it to have an in-dash Windows 7 computer.

I find it fishy (1)

a_hanso (1891616) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001409)

that this device is always presented rear first (on both HP and Engadget). Is there something the matter with the screen?

Re:I find it fishy (4, Insightful)

mwvdlee (775178) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001507)

The only thing you can be sure about is that presenting the non-functional end of a device has absolutely nothing to do with recognizing that people buy these as fashion statements rather than functional devices.

Re:I find it fishy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001569)

that's where the beatsaudio logo is.

Re:I find it fishy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001613)

It's still on the HP BIOS screen..

Re:I find it fishy (1)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002151)

Perhaps the decision of OS was delayed until shortly before release.

So the hardware might have targetted WinRT, Android or open webOS (now sold to LG, according to cnet)

"bit by the HP TouchPad debacle"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001417)

For $99 I got a pretty decent spec tablet that runs Cyanogenmod 10 perfectly. I wish I could get bit like that more often.

Re:"bit by the HP TouchPad debacle"? (1)

Erythros (140001) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001453)

I was lucky enough to get 4 of the 32 gig models.. Still have one sealed in box just in case the one I am typing on now happens to die/break/fall in a fire etc.

Re:"bit by the HP TouchPad debacle"? (2)

queazocotal (915608) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001711)

Charge it occasionally, to at least 50%
Some devices will permenantly kill their battery if actually left idle for years.

Re:"bit by the HP TouchPad debacle"? (1)

tehcyder (746570) | about a year and a half ago | (#43003369)

Charge it occasionally, to at least 50% Some devices will permenantly kill their battery if actually left idle for years.

If he leaves it idle for years, by the time he comes to use it it will be less powerful than a kids toy from McDonald's. 32 gigs will seem like a 1.44 meg floppy now.

Re:"bit by the HP TouchPad debacle"? (1)

Gilmoure (18428) | about a year and a half ago | (#43005311)

What's a floppy?

HP operating from a confused position? (1)

bogaboga (793279) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001423)

Is it just me or does everyone agree with me that HP is in what one would call "a confused state of mind?"

I am afraid I am inclined to believe that this is the case especially when one closely listens to what the company's direction has been in the last few years.

I see what you did there (1)

psholty2 (2696677) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001425)

Intentionally omitting question mark...

HP Touchpad debacle? (3, Insightful)

Erythros (140001) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001435)

Yes, that was a debacle. Initially overpriced so that it couldn't sell then underpriced so that you got one only if you were lucky enough. HP was onto something with the Touchpad, but not everyone was enamored with WebOS. If they were smart they would have ported Android to it and sold it at a reasonable price, maybe $250-$325 range. Those of us smart enough to get one for the hardware specs knowing Android would soon be ported got a great tablet, I use mine all of the time. As far as their latest venture, due to their lack of market penetration up to this point, I doubt consumers will take their offerings seriously and further reviews may doom the device before it has a chance. Who knows, it does seem snappy enough for a budget priced tablet even if the aspect ratio sucks.

Re:HP Touchpad debacle? (1)

jacknifetoaswan (2618987) | about a year and a half ago | (#43004283)

Same here! I picked a 32 gigger up during the firesale, and although WebOS was abysmally bad, a couple months of waiting turned up a CM port, which will hopefully be on Jelly Bean, soon, and a decent tab that I can use for sitting on the couch. For $150, that's totally worth it. This thing? Not so much.

units? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001469)

Why are the dimensions in metric and the weight given imperial units? Surely if you have some sense of what those dimensions mean you could interpret the mass of the thing in g/Kg.

Re:units? (2)

flyingfsck (986395) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001605)

grams per kibigram?

So what exactly is 'beats audio?' (5, Interesting)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001597)

Seriously. I've tried to google, and the most informative things I find are other people asking the same question. Nowhere on the HP site does it actually say what this technology is, though they do seem to insist on putting a (tm) after every use of the term. There's a lot of marketing rubbish like "With Beats Audio(tm) on board, the richest, most dynamic sound on a laptop is at your fingertips." But nothing that actually says what Beats Audio is or does. The best I've come up with is http://tunelab.com/2012/01/09/what-exactly-is-beats-audio-update-an-answer/ [tunelab.com] - which suggests that it's just a trademarked name for a few changes as trivial as changing the headphone jack surround from metal to plastic (which most have anyway) and installing common-sense things like putting the headphone amp away from any noisy digital traces.

Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' (4, Informative)

Chewbacon (797801) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001643)

It's licensed from Dr. Dre's line of headphones (which I believe is manufactured by Monster cable). Existing technology that they had to slap some hip guy's name on. I have it on my HP laptop and it honestly sounds pretty good as far as laptop speakers go.

Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43002939)

Not licensed from Monster. Monster invented (all of) the technology, then Dre fucked them out of it. Out of all the incredibly overpriced hardware designed to dupe stupid kids with money.

http://gizmodo.com/5981823/beat-by-dre-the-inside-story-of-how-monster-lost-the-world

Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43004797)

Couldn't have happened to a nicer company, too.

Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' (1)

afidel (530433) | about a year and a half ago | (#43006175)

Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of fraudsters, though it does go to prove that nobody beats the recording industry when it comes to shady deals.

Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | about a year and a half ago | (#43004089)

It's licensed from Dr. Dre's line of headphones (which I believe is manufactured by Monster cable). Existing technology that they had to slap some hip guy's name on. I have it on my HP laptop and it honestly sounds pretty good as far as laptop speakers go.

Expensive headphones that sound like crap, actually - it's great if all you want to listen to are well, bass beats. That's it. You can do better for far less money. Hell, even Bose is cheaper and better audio.

But effectively, the beats is just an equalizer preset that someone characterized the device for and adjusted to get rid of tinnyness another stuff that makes mobile speakers sound like crap. And yes, it does work, sound does come out much better.

Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' (5, Informative)

Fri13 (963421) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001697)

It is a brand for idea to use EQ to make bass sound deeper/stronger and have a higher quality for audio than typically (no distortion at any volume level you could hear) is offered in mobile devices.

It is similar than what Creative has for its SB Live! branding

Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001841)

I have to turn off Crystalizer on a Sound Blaster X-Fi USB adapter because it makes everything sound like crap. The same goes with most audio "enhancement" processes.

Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' (1)

tippe (1136385) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002697)

...and it's "invented" by Dr. Dre, a trusted name in high-fidelity audio.

Bwwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!

Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' (2)

Plasmoid2000ad (1004859) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002101)

It's a lovely marketing stamp in general. In practice though, on HTC devices at least, it means putting in a decent headphone amp that is actually big enough for poor quality headphones, and having some built in equalizing code that pushed up the bass. For most people, it means things sound better...

Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' (2)

Excelcia (906188) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002187)

It's simply an equalizer preset that boosts the bass and high end a little.

Funny thing. On the HTC One V phone, a little Beats Audio icon would show up in the status bar when you plugged in headphones. Originally, when you'd drag down your notifications and select Beats Audio, you'd get a dialog where you could select from about 10 different equalizer presets, only one of which was the "Beats Audio" setting. The rest were the typical equalizer presets. Rock, Pop, Bass Boost, Classical, etc. When the first update came out for the, that dialog was replaced with a simple "Enable/Disable" for Beats Audio. I guess they didn't want people realizing this much vaunted "Beats Audio" was just another equalizer preset.

Normally something like this would be the other way around, with the handset or laptop manufacturers licensing some Dolby sound labeling. In this case, the HTC update having deleted all the other equalizer preset settings leads me to suspect that this is a Beats marketing strategy. I'm guessing Beats is going to the handset manufacturers and paying them to advertise "Beats Audio" on their handsets in order to boost name recognition and give them street cred in the audio market. And when HTC dumped Beats Audio in with a bunch of other equalizer presets, I suspect Beats wasn't too happy about that, which caused the change.

Re:So what exactly is 'beats audio?' (1)

cawpin (875453) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002379)

Seriously. I've tried to google, and the most informative things I find are other people asking the same question.

Really?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=BEATS+AUDIO&l=1 [lmgtfy.com]

The truth about Android (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001617)

Yes, it certainly works as a tablet, and people who buy these pieces of shit that have no value, THANKS TO OBAMA, are in trouble!

If the dollar was backed by gold, then these Android tablets would be backed by something with value, but they aren't! They're backed by American dollars, which are WORTHLESS!

When Obummer removed the gold standard and failed to replace it with something tangible, it (and I'm referring to Obama here as an "it" because it is neither human, nor does it have a gender) started a chain reaction which resulted in the total devaluation of American currency, and the long, painful descent into massive amounts of national debt.

Obama is a puppet of the Illuminati. He was human. It is not human anymore. It is an empty shell that the Freemasons manipulate to serve their twisted desires. How can this be, you ask? This happened as a result of Hitler's failure to eradicate the Jewish race, and their eventual rise into becoming one of the most nefarious organizations to ever exist. Every Zionist is a Freemason. Every Freemason is either a Jew or a puppet that is being manipulated by the Jews.

I work tirelessly to expose this fraud. Many mock me, or choose not to acknowledge the truth. Laugh, and watch as your country gets flushed down the toilet by the Jews. The Jews are destroying us from the inside, and we are letting them. Read 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion' if you truly want to understand their evil.

"The constitution scales of these days will shortly break down, for we have established them with a certain lack of accurate balance in order that they may oscillate incessantly until they wear through the pivot on which they turn. The GOYIM are under the impression that they have welded them sufficiently strong and they have all along kept on expecting that the scales would come into equilibrium. But the pivots - the kings on their thrones - are hemmed in by their representatives, who play the fool, distraught with their own uncontrolled and irresponsible power. This power they owe to the terror which has been breathed into the palaces. As they have no means of getting at their people, into their very midst, the kings on their thrones are no longer able to come to terms with them and so strengthen themselves against seekers after power. We have made a gulf between the far-seeing Sovereign Power and the blind force of the people so that both have lost all meaning, for like the blind man and his stick, both are powerless apart."

The truth (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001671)

The Jewish pits every ethnic group against the other and it works with excellence. "The blood of the stupid masses will flow as we wait for our day of world victory" he said coldly. For hours after this incredible discussion a sense of inadequacy prevailed. Is it possible that another group of people could be so treacherous in spirit and so evil in intent? The words heard and the evidence at hand is real. Is it possible that the American people can remain docile even while their life blood is being drained from them? It seems so according to what we can see. What does all this say to you?

  "The naive politicians in Washington are gullible. Most of them are not bright enough to see that powerful Jewish lobbyists influenced this practice many years ago and there is no one strong enough to stop it. Some of the money is even returned to the US and spent on Zionist propaganda and support for Israel. There is nothing wrong with sending US dollars to Israel tax-free so long as we are smart enough to get away with it."

"Jews are the most intelligent people in the world so if it benefits them to change the name we do so. That's all there is to it. We mix in your society which is fully corrupted and while the Jews are benefiting themselves the dumb goyim doesn't realize that these Jews with non-Jew names are Jews. We have infiltrated you effectively! I know what you are thinking about as Jews in government who use non-Jew names. Well don't be concerned because in the foreseeable future there will be no real presidential power in the US. The invisible government is taking strength in that direction."

  "Most Jews throughout the world know what is really happening to our people. We have communication unequalled anywhere. It is only the jerks, the ignorant, and misinformed and degenerates who can find peace in your society and you bastards hide your sins by donning sheep's clothing. You are the hypocrites not the Jews as you say and write about. To answer your question, in Russia there are two distinct governments, one visible and the other invisible. The visible is made up of different nationalities whereas the invisible is composed of only Jews. The powerful Soviet Secret Police takes its orders from the Jewish-controlled invisible government. There are about six to seven million communist in Soviet Russia, 50% are Jews and 50% are gentiles, but the gentiles are not trusted. The communist Jews are united and trust each other, while the others spy on one another. About every five to six years the secret Jewish Board calls for the purge of the party and many are liquidated because they begin to understand too much about the Jewish secret government. Russian communists have a secret group order which consists of Jews only. They rule over everything pertaining to the visible government. It was this powerful organization that was responsible for the secret removal of the centre of Communism to Tel Aviv from where all instructions now originate."

"We have castrated society through fear and intimidation. Manhood exists only in combination with a feminine outward appearance. Being so neutered the populace has become docile and easily ruled. As all geldings in nature their thoughts are not involved with the concerns of the future and their posterity but only with the present toil and the next meal."

debacle (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001619)

>even if you got bit by the HP TouchPad debacle

Do you mean HP shareholders, or the 5 people who paid full price for a Touchpad? The rest of us got a pretty good tablet at a really great price when they dumped them.

Definition of insanity (2)

Chewbacon (797801) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001633)

...doing the same thing and expecting a different result. To the stockholders: what could possibly go wrong?

3Mpix rear camera tech (2)

Fri13 (963421) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001707)

What I wish from that 3Mpix rear camera is that has a autofocus in it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7" and it has 3MPix rear camera what is very handy for many situations when you make notes or you want just to quickly record something and you don't need quality what you only get from DSLR or digital video cameras but it is terrible in situations where you would need to get closer than 30-40cm because missing autofocus. And that means as well you can not scan all 2D barcodes well.

Just give good 3Mpix camera with autofocus and it will be great for taking pictures to notes.

Re:3Mpix rear camera tech (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43001799)

Exactly. Every tablet seems to do the same stupid thing. I'd use evernote like crazy if I could just take a decent pic of my documents.

Re:3Mpix rear camera tech (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43003607)

Protip: Go to the dime store and get a pair of geezer reading glasses, remove one of the lenses. You can now focus on close up stuff, just hold the glasses lens in front of the camera lens.

Touchpad burns? I think not. (3, Informative)

TrentTheThief (118302) | about a year and a half ago | (#43001911)

Burned by HP's Touchpad? Not hardly. My TouchPad dual boots WebOS and CyanogenMod 10.

It was well worth the moeny. The graphics are tremendous and the audio is soooo sweet.

specs (1)

puddingebola (2036796) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002041)

Nexus 7 specs look better, but it costs a little more. Annoying they didn't put a microSD card reader in the Nexus 7. The price and the MicroSD slot make this appealing to me.

Re:specs (1)

frovingslosh (582462) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002591)

The lack of a SD memory slot on the Nexus 7 isn't about saving five cents on parts, or about the "you're too stupid to use a memory slot" claim that was made. It is about forcing Google customers to save their information "on the cloud". If you don't mind Google and the RIAA and MPAA snooping through all of your data that might be OK if you live within Google's fiber network area and never leave the house. But in a land of slow Internet and caps by major providers like AT&T even on land lines, it is a deal breaker. I would have bought the Nexus when it came out if not for that (even with the lack of the rear facing camera, which I would really miss).

FAT patent (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43004293)

The lack of a SD memory slot on the Nexus 7 isn't about saving five cents on parts

Perhaps it's about saving dollars on Microsoft patent royalties. Microsoft owns essential patents that cover FAT32 and ExFAT, the file systems used on SDHC and SDXC respectively.

no GPS? (1)

frovingslosh (582462) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002089)

The two cameras are welcome (yea, I already have a digital camera, but there are many uses for a camera on a tablet that a stand-alone camera will not address). And the expansion slot is very important to me (important enough that I was ready to buy the Nexus on day 1 but declined when I was told to just "use the cloud"). But if there is no GPS then this is really in the class of cheap sub $100 tablets. I would live without NFC (although it is a short sighted choice to cut out this low cost feature), but not GPS. Looks like another HP tablet failure.

Also, although less important to me than the GPS, there is no talk of graphic acceleration, at least in what I read. Even some low end tablets have decent graphic power. Makes me wonder if parts of HP want this to fail.

Google drive (1)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002389)

The press release specifically mentions Google Drive.

Re:Google drive (1)

frovingslosh (582462) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002773)

Thanks, I'll look again. I was concerned that the GPS receiver was left out of the specs. But then again, I did see mention that it would be compatable with everything in the Google Play store. And if it lacks an auto-focus feature for the camera (which has already been mentioned here) as well as NFC (also missing from the specs) then it certainly isn't going to run everything on Google Play. So rather than just assume that there is lots of hardware that they were just too modest to mention, I would like to see some reassurance as to what is really in the device.

Or, to put it another way, I wouldn't put it past these weasels to say "Sure, you can run Google Drive on it and look at the pretty maps". "Oh, you want it to tell you where you are? No, it can't do that. But you can run Google Drive and look at maps."

Re:Google drive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43003931)

You're both aware Googe Drive has nothing to do with driving a car? It's their cloud-storage thing.

Re:no GPS? (1)

Dr.Dubious DDQ (11968) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002535)

Came here to complain about lack of GPS and see I was beaten to it.

Does it REALLY cost so much to design the tablets with GPS? Nexus tablets don't seem to have a problem doing it without being expensive...

Not bad for the price... (1)

erp_consultant (2614861) | about a year and a half ago | (#43002487)

I'd have to get my hands on one to try it out but for $169 it's not a bad deal. Yes, the video resolution is a bit weak but it's got Android 4.1 and expandable SD storage and Beats Audio. I snagged one of the 32GB Touchpads and the audio on that is terrific. The expandable storage option alone makes it worthy of consideration.

I've tried those cheap Chinese made tablets and the touch screens on them are universally horrible. You're having to hit the same icon 3 or 4 times before it works right. On an iPad or good Android tablet you can see the difference immediately. That will be the test for the HP tablet. If it has a good touchscreen, with the proper level of sensitivity, then I think it will sell well.

If you compare it to the Nexus 7 it's got a chance. The Nexus 7 comes with 16GB for $199. You can upgrade to 32GB for $249. For about $200 (the HP tablet plus a $30 SD card) you'll have a tablet with 40GB of storage.

The downside for the Slate may prove to be the (relatively) crappy screen. The screen on the Nexus 7 is nothing short of phenomenal.

"bit" by touchpad "debacle"? (2)

Chirs (87576) | about a year and a half ago | (#43003257)

The touchpad was (and still is) a pretty nice tablet. I got three at firesale prices (one for me, two for family members) and they're all still going strong. Mine dual-boots webOS and CyanogenMod 9.

The audio quality on the touchpad was the best of any tablet I've heard and it far exceeds the audio on either of my laptops. The built-in inductive charging is awesome, all new equipment should be doing that out-of-the-box.

Missed opportunity (1)

sootman (158191) | about a year and a half ago | (#43003903)

If the headline had ended with a question mark -- "HP Back In Tablet Game With Android-Based 'Slate7'?" -- we could simply answer "no". [wikipedia.org]

Bought WebOS to build an Android tablet. Sad. (1)

SCHecklerX (229973) | about a year and a half ago | (#43003957)

Maybe some day Android will be useable and I'll take a look at it.

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