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Blizzard Set To Debut 'Something New' At PAX East

Soulskill posted about a year ago | from the battle.net-forum-users-already-upset-about-it dept.

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skade88 writes "Ars is reporting that Blizzard will announce a new game on March 22, 2013 at PAX East. They say the new game is not a sequel or expansion. Blizzard is also saying the new game is not the long rumored MMO named Titan. Considering that every game Blizzard released since 1998 has had the name StarCraft, Warcraft or Diablo in it, this is big news. Ars speculates in the article that the new game could be Blizzard's version of a DOTA game. They showed off Blizzard All-Stars at BlizzCon 2010 as a SC2 custom map. It could be ready for launch as its own standalone game. I guess we will have to wait and see!"

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WoW for PS4 and Xbox Durango?!?!? (1)

crazyjj (2598719) | about a year ago | (#43035989)

No...let me guess, more micro-transaction shit, right?

Re:WoW for PS4 and Xbox Durango?!?!? (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year ago | (#43036169)

Watch, probably moving to the annoying mobile IAP method.

Player, you have run out of Mana! You may disconnect from battlenet for 1 hour to regenerate or pay $1 to regenerate now.

Re:WoW for PS4 and Xbox Durango?!?!? (4, Insightful)

Andrio (2580551) | about a year ago | (#43036553)

Man, this sucks. I remember when I loved Blizzard, but now I can't even get excited about this news, not even a little bit.

I know that this new project, no matter what, will (1) Be always online and require an account and (2) Will have its gameplay heavily influenced, driven, or impacted by a means to make money after the initial ($60!) sale, via micro transactions or a monthly fee or whatever.

Re:WoW for PS4 and Xbox Durango?!?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43037231)

Yep, because #2 is obviously the case with StarCraft 2. Don't get me wrong, I dislike the way Blizzard has been doing their games since they became ActiBliz, but they didn't really put any gimmicks for extra money into SC2 (yet). In case you don't recall, Brood War was a separate, pay for game. Although each did include a campaign for each race, SC2 Wings of Liberty did have a lot more Terran content than either SC1x campaign had.

Re:WoW for PS4 and Xbox Durango?!?!? (1)

IndustrialComplex (975015) | about a year ago | (#43038441)

Yep, because #2 is obviously the case with StarCraft 2.

Wasn't that the game where the storyline was broken apart into three separate installments?

Re:WoW for PS4 and Xbox Durango?!?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43037275)

YEAH, SC2 has micro transactions and monthly fees, AMIRITE?!

Re:WoW for PS4 and Xbox Durango?!?!? (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a year ago | (#43037341)

YEAH, SC2 has micro transactions and monthly fees, AMIRITE?!

That's not to say they didn't want them.

Blizzard's next big property will have some after-purchase revenue involved. Guaranteed. Because Blizzard has never shown particular willingness to do something different than other developers and that's what other developers are doing.

Re:WoW for PS4 and Xbox Durango?!?!? (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | about a year ago | (#43037717)

YEAH, SC2 has micro transactions and monthly fees, AMIRITE?!

You do realize that "impacted by a means to make money after the initial ($60!) sale" also includes expansion packs? One of which is coming out for $40 in two weeks?

Re:WoW for PS4 and Xbox Durango?!?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43038565)

You do realize that "impacted by a means to make money after the initial ($60!) sale" also includes expansion packs? One of which is coming out for $40 in two weeks?

While that is true, Bliz has been doing expansion packs since like Warcraft 2. The industry itself has been doing expansion packs for a long time, along with sequels.

The Industry has always wanted to make money. Instead of some sort of slow decent into the Dark Side, I think we are just more conscious of it (a disadvantage of being older and more paranoid^H wiser)

Re:WoW for PS4 and Xbox Durango?!?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43038755)

Sc2 has some of the best value out there. Basically she'll out 40-60 dollars every couple years for infinite multiplayer with constant stream of patches and updates. Blizzard actually follows the meta game and makes changes accordingly. Not too many games without subscriptions get that sort of love.

Clealry (4, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | about a year ago | (#43036047)

they've done away with the pretense of a game and just have an auction house.

Or it could be truly shocking and they are going to produce a fun game again.
I would love to see a new Warcraft RTS. preferable without some lame story shoved into it.

Re:Clealry (1)

masternerdguy (2468142) | about a year ago | (#43036081)

Avoiding RTS stories (most are bad) is as easy as multiplayer and skirmish.

Re:Clealry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036257)

I thought the Warcraft 3 story was great. It was grand enough to work as the fundamentals of WoW lore.

Re:Clealry (1)

dywolf (2673597) | about a year ago | (#43036341)

What games have they released that haven't been fun? Even Diablo 3 was fun the first time through.

and if you just want a competent RTS without any backstory, there's already 1000's of those. half the attraction of the warcraft and starcraft games are the stories that provide the motivation/reason for the missions

Re:Clealry (1, Interesting)

a1cypher (619776) | about a year ago | (#43036523)

I would LOVE a new Warcraft RTS.

But not like warcraft 3 where they put too much emphasis on "legends" which were single irreplacable units with super powers that the game revolves around. Too much like a pre-cursor to WoW.

   

Re:Clealry (2)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about a year ago | (#43037165)

I kinda liked the hero; especially the dwarf. The sound effects in that game are classic. Can't remember tghe last time I played it and I still find myself imitating them in context:

"Woooooork complete!"

PORTAL 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036051)

spoiler

Re:PORTAL 3 (2)

pezpunk (205653) | about a year ago | (#43036087)

that would be a neat trick, considering .... anything.

Re:PORTAL 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036363)

Not that crazy, we've seen that Blizzard can count to 3 (it just takes a decade).

However, the press release claims the "new" game won't be a sequel or expansion. Which leaves one real option: Crossover!

Imagine if you will, a RTS with a deeply ingraned hero system (like in Warcraft 3, but almost as fully detailed as Diablo 3 characters) where Diablo is found chasing the renegade Burning Legion across realities, the chase only slowed when the Burning Legion convinces the UED to help them in exchange for magical enhancements to their technology. When the preview movie ends, 18 factions from Warcraft, Starcraft, Diablo, and hybridized forces are entangled in a massive struggle for power with alliances that barely last long enough for the toner to fuse to the arcane scrolls it was printed on.

Re:PORTAL 3 (1)

MozeeToby (1163751) | about a year ago | (#43037071)

Call me crazy, but I think the joke may have been the fact that Portal isn't owned by Blizzard.

Re:PORTAL 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43037515)

Call me crazy, but I think the joke may have been the fact that Portal isn't owned by Blizzard.

Right, because game franchise ownership never changes hands...

If Valve were actually doing something more with their portal guns than watching them get modded into Minecraft (which Blizzard might have attempted to sue for daring to end a game's name with 'craft'), then you could argue that they would not contemplate leasing rights for another development group to make another game built on some of the same principles.

Re:PORTAL 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43037315)

Don't be silly, it only took 8 years for Warcraft 1-3 to come out. And it took 16 years for Diablo 1-3, not just 10.

Or a Quake-type game... (2)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year ago | (#43036117)

"Ars speculates in the article that the new game could be Blizzard's version of a DOTA game."

Well, there are a half dozen of those already, too. So: Nothing new still.

Re:Or a Quake-type game... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036217)

"Ars speculates in the article that the new game could be Blizzard's version of a DOTA game."

Well, there are a half dozen of those already, too. So: Nothing new still.

LOL Ars.

"Ars speculates in the article that the new game could be Blizzard's version of an old Blizzard's game mod."

FTFY

a blizzard version of call of duty (1)

alen (225700) | about a year ago | (#43036135)

can't wait
3d isometric top down view and you have to spend money to buy every upgrade

Re:a blizzard version of call of duty (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year ago | (#43036203)

A proper RTS or turn based game would be great to have again. If we could forgo having to buy each bullet.

I am pretty excited about the new wasteland.

Wasteland2 - I'm with you. (1)

attemptedgoalie (634133) | about a year ago | (#43036293)

I can't wait for that to hit.

That Kickstarter was exciting. "If we get this much money, we'll do this in Linux".

Ok, we just hit that number.

"If we get"

Ok, we just got that while I was typing the description.

Re:Wasteland2 - I'm with you. (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year ago | (#43036321)

I was surprised how fast that went too, especially since the genre is pretty much dead. Maybe we can eventually have another "Jagged Alliance".

Re:Wasteland2 - I'm with you. (1)

jittles (1613415) | about a year ago | (#43036441)

Oh yeah Jag was a great game. I guess Jagged Alliance Back in Action was published in the not too distant past but it was a terribly executed remake of Jag 2.

Re:Wasteland2 - I'm with you. (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year ago | (#43036493)

I only found out about that now.
I was excited, then sad to see it had no fog of war and basically was a terrible game.

This should be easy. Make old game again, updates graphics and story line. Change nothing else.

Re:a blizzard version of call of duty (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036781)

No, the bullets will be for free. What you'll have to buy, is the bronze, silver and gold triggers to use them.

Let me guess (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036141)

Microtransaction Hero!

Spend real money to buy things to wave your dick around on the forums. Complete with full public profiles so others can see how much money you actually spent.

Cool features like:
- Call people noobs for not spending as much money as you have
- Spend money instead of actually playing the game
- Spend money to acquire virtual currency that Blizzard owns
- Spend money to super-inflate the in-game economy so if you want something later, you have to spend more money

I hope it's not a DOTA-clone (0)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | about a year ago | (#43036201)

As the title implies, I can't stand all these DOTA/LoL-clones. They're fine if you're a pimple-faced teenager with raging hormones and the need to yell at someone, but it sure won't attract me.

Re:I hope it's not a DOTA-clone (1)

Whorhay (1319089) | about a year ago | (#43038599)

I also hope it's not a DOTA clone. The only tower defense game I can remember liking much recently was Dungeon Defenders, which i enjoyed because it had character progression.

Original IP from Blizzard? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036205)

Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder. [youtube.com]

They're going to keep flogging Warcraft and Starcraft until they die.

Re:Original IP from Blizzard? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year ago | (#43036245)

Incorrect sir!
They are actually showing off two games WarStar and CraftCraft. In the first one the two famous IPs have been combined into one single RTS, in the later the SAME DAMN THING!

Re:Original IP from Blizzard? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43037381)

Actually, there is a custom map for Starcraft 2 that is called CraftCraft...it's kinda fun.

Definitions, please (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036227)

And what exactly is a DOTA game?

Re:Definitions, please (5, Informative)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | about a year ago | (#43036323)

From what I can gather you have two or more teams, each with their own base, all trying to capture points from the other teams all the while your own teammates keep yelling obscenities at you because you're not doing this or that exactly how they want, and it ends with one or the other team capturing enough points, wiping the other one out, or the players getting fed up with the constant abuse by own teammates and logging out. But really, the constant raging, belittling and abusing of own teammates is seemingly the most important thing in these games.

Re:Definitions, please (0)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | about a year ago | (#43036957)

Good guess but I heard it will consist of a slot machine. You earn slot tokens by moving a cursor around the screen for 1 hr per token. Each token has a tiny chance of increasing your power rating by 1 point. You can then walk around the game with your rating flashing over your head.

You can do group tasks where you all work together to move the cursor for 2 tokens per hour but then they scream "retard!!!" at you while you do it.

Re:Definitions, please (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43037241)

Absolutely true, you dirty smelly dyke bitch.

Re:Definitions, please (4, Informative)

Anubis IV (1279820) | about a year ago | (#43036429)

DOTA = Defense of the Ancients, the most popular custom map in Warcraft III. It spawned the MOBA (multiplayer online battle arena) genre in which players control a single hero unit from a third-person perspective while leveling/gearing up in an attempt to destroy the opponent team's base, and which now has a number of entries in it, the most notable being League of Legends. DOTA is so well known and popular that Valve even hired IceFrog, one of DOTA's lead developers, to create "DOTA 2" as a standalone game that is currently in beta (and is already the second most popular eSport title, behind only StarCraft II).

Re:Definitions, please (1)

Anubis IV (1279820) | about a year ago | (#43036455)

Correction: not the second most popular. It's the second highest-paying to its contenders, behind only SC2.

Re:Definitions, please (1)

tippe (1136385) | about a year ago | (#43037627)

I saw DOTA but thought DOTT (Day of the Tentacle). Man, that was a good game back in the day. I'm not sure how I would feel about a remake, but I'd probably still buy it though. I have no interest in DOTA, though, so Blizzard won't be getting my money if that's what they'll be announcing...

</ramblings_of_an_old_man>

Re:Definitions, please (1)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | about a year ago | (#43037737)

You will be confused to know that Day of the Tentacle is now a Disney property.

Re:Definitions, please (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43038515)

Day of the Tentacle + Tinkerbell.

All we need to do is wait for a Japanese company to buy Disney and let the porn flow naturally.

Re:Definitions, please (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036657)

DOTA was the first "MOBA":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplayer_online_battle_arena

That explains the gist. RTS controls in a half-tower-defense, half-action-RPG type of 5v5 pvp game.

Re:Definitions, please (1)

edcalaban (1077719) | about a year ago | (#43038747)

Not the first, just the first to get super popular. Check your own wiki link - Aeon of Strife was the first, and they used to be called AOSs.

Assuming the MOBA rumor is true... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036255)

Too little, too late.

They should have joined that bandwagon a long time ago. Even DOTA2 can't touch League of Legends now.

Re:Assuming the MOBA rumor is true... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036591)

Games that require no skill became popular with people who weren't good enough to play Starcraft, who knew.

Re:Assuming the MOBA rumor is true... (2)

ArhcAngel (247594) | about a year ago | (#43037097)

Yeah, There is a lot of hype around DOTA 2 but I figured it wasn't meeting Valve's expectation when they started handing out multiple copies to anybody who had ever shown an interest. I had already purchased a copy and they gave me and my son's account 4 more each to hand out to friends.

Re:Assuming the MOBA rumor is true... (3, Informative)

HaZardman27 (1521119) | about a year ago | (#43037343)

It was planned as a free-to-play game with cosmetic microtransactions. The whole point is to get as many people interested in it and playing as possible. The $30 you can spend for it is "early-access" for anyone that somehow can't get an invite. Look at the number of people playing it on a typical day - it usually peaks at over 200k simultaneous players.

Re:Assuming the MOBA rumor is true... (1)

HaZardman27 (1521119) | about a year ago | (#43037375)

Dota 2 and LoL are very different games within the same genre. LoL is a much simpler and more streamlined version of the genre, which of course appeals to a wider audience. Dota 2 is primarily for players of the original and Heroes of Newerth. The mechanics are more robust and the learning curve is much steeper.

make a TBS game as good as HOMM 2 or 3! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036347)

make a TBS game as good as HOMM 2 or 3!

Aha (3, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#43036373)

I will show "some reaction" when I know what it is.

Seriously, I mean, I'm used to vaporware and whatnot, but this is getting ridiculous. Are we now supposed to get excited over the announcement of getting "something", they can't even be assed anymore to at least announce it?

Re:Aha (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036679)

this was just the announcement that they are going to make an announcement oh they joy and excitement

d3 on xbox (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036589)

They are probably being pressured by Microsoft to announce Diablo3 on the Xbox since they already announced Diablo3 on the PS4.

World of Hobbitcraft (1)

Grayhand (2610049) | about a year ago | (#43036631)

It's exactly the same as WoW just with Hobbits added. Just think hairless Pandas that need to be fed constantly.

Re:World of Hobbitcraft (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036749)

It's exactly the same as WoW just with Hobbits added.

So it's LOTRO?

DOTA... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036639)

I've tried DOTA multiple times. It's simply boring. Not a fun genre. Like any genre, it has its depth. But it's not an interesting depth. It bores me. I don't like that there's no long term progression. And yet I don't mind that in pure RTS. But in the case of DOTA, that lack is genre-killing.

And the headline had me excited for Titan or something interesting and new.

But if it's not Titan, it is absolutely a DOTA.

And EA-Blizzard has completely lost my interest for awhile because of it.

What genres are new to them? (2)

stewsters (1406737) | about a year ago | (#43036699)

I am kind of curious. They cover there fantasy and dark fantasy bases with Warcraft and Diablo, they cover their distant future with Starcraft.
What does that leave that's significantly different?

A contemporary hyper-realistic fps war game? Where you can trade real world money to drop tanks and get airstrikes?

An mmo where you play as a minimum wage worker at a large box store? You can have to make up the difference in your rent with micro-transactions?

A pirate simulator? Where you need to use micro-transactions to buy fruit so you don't get scurvy?

Re:What genres are new to them? (1)

idontgno (624372) | about a year ago | (#43036839)

How 'bout an ARG where you use micro-transactions to learn WTF Blizz intends to announce, so you don't have to masturbate yourself up to the frenzy of anticipation and excitement their marketing department clearly expects you to have.

Seriously, has Vivendi's ownership of Blizz yielded ONE positive result?

Screw Blizzard... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036713)

They lost me as a customer when they introduced Kung fu pandas to WOW, that was the last straw. The only game of theirs I play now is Diablo2 when the ladder is reset.

They will never see anymore money from me.

If it's not a sequel... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036721)

Then it's going to be a prequel, obviously.

Why do you care? (1, Offtopic)

B5_geek (638928) | about a year ago | (#43036767)

Have you forgotten how poorly they treated the community and the whole bnetd fiasco?

I don't give a flying fuck what they make, they will never get a dime from me.

WOD (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43036787)

Since Blizzard is owned by Activision nowadays I'd go with "World of Duty" .. Another cash-cow coming in!

More well polished mediocrity. (3, Insightful)

Ziggitz (2637281) | about a year ago | (#43036823)

Blizzard has become the J.J. Abrams of game developers in the last couple years. Nothing they do is risky or ambitious. As a result Diablo 3 turned into a snoozefest with no new mechanics and a loot system that was less exciting than its predecessor. They showed they can't break away from core mechanics in Starcraft 2 that were terrible for the multiplayer scene. If they were to make a DotA style game at this point, I would give an absolute vote of no confidence in their ability to turn it into a quality competitive game. Sure it'll look pretty and it'll run smooth. It'll either be well balanced and boring as hell or broken beyond all belief. They'll ignore player feedback and commit themselves to horrible design decisions.

The thing I dislike most about Blizzard right now is that they seem to think that they have bottled the formula for fun. They think that they have a perfect statistical method for determining balance while completely ignoring how their games are actually being played. What they've actually bottled is the perfect formula for average clones of prior success. So not really all that excited.

World of Starcraft! (3, Interesting)

S810 (168676) | about a year ago | (#43037005)

Maybe this will be World of Starcraft! I have long thought that it was the next evolution of that franchise.

Re:World of Starcraft! (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about a year ago | (#43037219)

Eve should hire Blizzard developers to come in and revamp the UI. Maybe it's because Eve has a lot of information to present, but as fun as the game is the UI sucks. Far too menu driven especially when you're combat.

Re:World of Starcraft! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43037329)

Eve is better without Blizzard devs.

Re:World of Starcraft! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43038547)

After comparing the WoW auction house to the Eve market, I can't imagine a single Eve player who would welcome a "wowification" of the Eve UI.

Re:World of Starcraft! (3, Interesting)

Tharkkun (2605613) | about a year ago | (#43037287)

Maybe this will be World of Starcraft! I have long thought that it was the next evolution of that franchise.

It will probably be the Bungie and Blizzard collaboration that has yet to be announced. The signed on to develop a game together a couple years back.

Probably will screw it up again (1)

ravenswood1000 (543817) | about a year ago | (#43037159)

They take a good game and mess it up. Wonder what they will be doing this time

Re:Probably will screw it up again (1)

Tharkkun (2605613) | about a year ago | (#43037365)

They take a good game and mess it up. Wonder what they will be doing this time

I'm not sure which game you're referring to? 10 million subscribers still for World of Warcraft. Diablo 3 top selling game of the year sold 12 million copies. You may not appreciate their work but obviously someone does.

I say this now. (2)

Westwood0720 (2688917) | about a year ago | (#43037175)

I'll say now that I'm not buying it. Then again, I say I'm cancelling my WoW account and never returning. Only, in four months I renew, level to 45, get bored, and quit again. I do this three times a year. Diablo 3, told myself I wasn't going to bother. Week after release, I bought it. Blizzard always seems to sucker me into their games. No matter how often I tell myself I'm not playing, I come back. >.
Certainly has my attention as to what the game could be though.

Just So It Has Kung Fu Pandas (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43037245)

Blizzard will be out of business before it releases whatever this is in 2019.

Blizzard Games (2)

CFBMoo1 (157453) | about a year ago | (#43037311)

WoW has seriously turned me off to Blizzard games. Seven years in that did have it's good times but that was from the people I met and not from the game I played.

Loved Diablo 1 and 2, haven't even touched Diablo 3. I'll be cracking away at the next cavern in Minecraft when they release this new one.

Re:Blizzard Games (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43037499)

Diablo 3 was a rip off anyway. I threw the DVD in the garbage.

They cashed in on their entire reputation for a quick buck.

Never again.

Maybe it's just the Diablo III console port? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43037535)

They're supposed to be demoing that at PAX East.

Yawn (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43037779)

I don't really care what it is, it's going to suck. Look at WoW. Waste hours on end to get gear, so that when the next release comes you need to grind again and that gear you already have that you worked so hard for? Worthless. Then you get the jerks that want to kick anybody that hasn't been playing for over a year running the same raid day after day so that they don't have to waste time waiting for anyone new. Add to that the constant manipulation of stats to make one class or another better or worse after you've spent months playing that class, and now you're getting slapped everytime you get into a PvP scenario. Oh please sign me up. Not. F U Blizz. Seriously. F U.

Re:Yawn (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43038099)

Don't forget that it seems like one *has* to grind the FoTM class/spec, or they will be HKs by that class/spec.

Glad I moved to Rift. Takes an actual brain to actually play that game (both PvE and PvP.)

Meh. Who cares? (2)

runeghost (2509522) | about a year ago | (#43038545)

Blizzard jumped the shark years ago. The only people who might be legitimately excited by this news are stockholders, at the prospect of yet another franchise to milk cash from.

Here's my guess (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#43038571)

Eastern Kingdom and Kalimdor Xtreme Beach Volleyball.

Which will be followed in about five years by
Leisure Suit Larry in the land of the night elves.

As a Mac user, let me be the first to say (3, Insightful)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#43038579)

Finally, another game available for the Mac! We almost have a dozen good games now!

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