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Gamer Rewrites Valve's Steam Installer For Debian

samzenpus posted about a year and a half ago | from the check-it-out dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Gaming on Linux is growing fast right now, and most of that is thanks to Steam. Initially, Steam committed only to the most popular desktop distribution, Ubuntu, but more recently has opened the door to others. So what do you do when you want to game in Linux and you're using something a little less popular — at least, on the desktop? If you're a programmer called GhostSquad57, you rewrite the installer for Debian. GhostSquad57 uploaded his efforts to Github yesterday, and has since reached out to the Linux community."

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big deal (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070499)

Seeing as Ubuntu is debian for those scared of terms.

Re:big deal (1, Flamebait)

pecosdave (536896) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070599)

Ubuntu is Debian for people who actually want to use their systems. Debian used to be pretty nice, but once Ubuntu came along the developers sort of gave up on having a working Debian and decided to become framework guys for Ubuntu. Debian in its current state is nearly unusable as a desktop, at least with KDE.

Re:big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070667)

Yeah well I punted Ubuntu for screwing up repeatedly. I suspect you're a paid troll anyway.

Re:big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071011)

Yeah because Ubuntu has a huge corporation behind them that pays people to troll on Slashdot. Geez. WTF????

Re:big deal (5, Insightful)

Narcocide (102829) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071387)

Well, actually they do [wikipedia.org] . Debian, Mozilla and Apache are the ones run by shadowy not-for-profit legal foundations (aka "charities"), but Canonical, on the other hand is a a for-profit corporation is actually selling your demographic info to advertisers just like Facebook and Apple.

Re:big deal (1)

dargaud (518470) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072673)

Canonical, on the other hand is a a for-profit corporation is actually selling your demographic info to advertisers just like Facebook and Apple.

"My demographics" ?!? Besides my IP for when I downloaded Ubuntu 6.4 and every time I run "aptitude full-upgrade", I really wonder what kind of "demographics" they have on me...

Re:big deal (2)

loufoque (1400831) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070673)

Isn't it the other way around?
Debian is what you use when you want to actually use the system, since, unlike Ubuntu, it actually has up-to-date and reliable packages.

The only advantage of Ubuntu is packaging restricted drivers better. Ubuntu also packages some weird desktop experiences (such as Unity), if you're into that sort of thing.

Re:big deal (2)

larry bagina (561269) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070795)

"up to date" isn't an apt description for debian stable. Unless you're a time traveller from 3 years ago. Reliable, I'll give that one to you, if you ignore how they fucked up ssh.

Re:big deal (1)

iroll (717924) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071413)

Even here in the future, stable is fine for pretty much any normal home and office use. And if it isn't, the upgrade to unstable is almost trivial to perform and isn't likely to cause any problems.

Re:big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071657)

uptodate... apt... Not sure if serious.

Re:big deal (2)

loufoque (1400831) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071771)

You should always use testing on your desktop, laptop or workstation, especially if you work in IT.
stable is for production environments.

Re:big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070805)

Depends on which package you're talking about.
Wine on debian is terribly outdated, and steam doesn't work on my lmde (which is more or less up to date with debian) because it uses an order version of glibc than ubuntu.

Re:big deal (1, Informative)

spike hay (534165) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071473)

Debian Stable is certainly not up to date, and I've always had problems with lots of random bugs whose fixes haven't been backported. Sid is the only way to get modern packages, but it's an absolute clusterfuck. Ubuntu/Mint are nearly as bad, but they do clearly put work into making sure the desktop experience is relatively smooth.

Arch linux on the other hand has bleeding edge STABLE packages. I almost never have any issues. Arch packaging are typically very vanilla. Heavy patching like Debian does introduces a lot of problems (ie in urxvt [pod.tst.eu] ). Upstream generally knows best. They wrote it.

Re:big deal (1)

kthreadd (1558445) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071743)

Arch is fine on a single machine, but I've yet to see a site with 100+ machines running it as well as Debian stable, Ubuntu LTS or any of the RHEL clones.

Re:big deal (0)

Chibi Merrow (226057) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072703)

We're running a couple hundred CentOS 6, Fedora 13/16/18 machines. Do we count?

IGNORE PARENT (0)

Chibi Merrow (226057) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072719)

I am teh dumb. Misread what grandparent was saying.

Re:big deal (3, Informative)

marcello_dl (667940) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072435)

You should remember that there is also debian testing, which currently is debian wheezy. As stable becomes too old, testing become more of a viable alternative. I ran into more problems with kubuntu than sid, and testing is way better than sid for normal users, because upgrades are less radical.

I also had a smooth experience with debian stable, if you want to run newer software too you could make a chroot with sid or testing, or consider the LD_LIBRARY_PATH option: at home I am running wheezy, plus the fglrx-legacy driver from experimental, using a closed source client with libraries gotten from ubuntu, and the resulting frankenstein has not had one hiccup.

Re:big deal (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070693)

That's because KDE is bullshit. I've been using Debian with XFCE on my daily machine since Ubuntu ran right off the cliff with Unity.

Re:big deal (3, Insightful)

phorm (591458) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071001)

And Mint is for people who want more packages but dislike the direction that Canonical has been taking with Gnome3 etc...

(it also works with the stock Steam installer)

Re:big deal (4, Informative)

TheDarkener (198348) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071641)

I've been using Debian 'testing' as a desktop (and a netbook for that matter) for many years now. I used Ubuntu for about 4 years at home and with my business clients (I'm a network engineer), roughly from v6.10 -> 10.04 but switched back because of the "will not fix" developer mentality to those who wanted functional packages from an LTS release. There was always something major that was broken, always with the carrot-on-a-stick, "Just upgrade to the latest release and use PPA from JoeSchmoe" answer when you just wanted to use your computer. It kept me for a while, but it got reeeeal tiring.

Debian has always "just worked" on my desktop. It's also a great LTSP sever, serving my kitchen and livingroom thin clients. With all of the good stuff that the Ubuntu/Canonical folks do getting backported to Debian, I feel like Debian testing is "Ubuntu Stable".

Re:big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071783)

Ubuntu is quickly becoming the Windows of Linux. Each new release is more bloated with useless crap than the last.

Re:big deal (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070639)

Seeing as Ubuntu is debian for those scared of terms.

Even less of a big deal when you check out NEW [debian.org] .

Re:big deal (2, Insightful)

Minwee (522556) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070703)

Try mixing Debian and Ubuntu repositories some time and see how big of a deal that is.

Re:big deal (1)

Randle_Revar (229304) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072427)

Done that. Boring, next!

Re:big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070875)

Seeing as Ubuntu is debian for those scared of terms.

In terms of package management and software dependencies - the things a linux installer is about - debian and ubuntu are very different things. This installer actually bypasses the package management almost completely by including most required binaries in the steam package - the endresult works but lacks any of the features package management normaly provides.

Re:big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071107)

the endresult works but lacks any of the features package management normaly provides.

Sounds pretty ideal for this sort of thing.
I doubt that the users of this package are interested in fixing any problems that shows up. For everyone who isn't distro managers anything that "almost works" is an obstacle in the way of what they wanted to do.

Re:big deal (0)

Dunbal (464142) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071023)

Exactly what I came here to post. So he translated it from Quick Basic to Visual Basic. (golfclap)

Re:big deal (5, Funny)

jgtg32a (1173373) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071631)

Ubuntu is an African word that means "I can't configure Debian"

Re:big deal (0)

ThisIsSaei (2397758) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071707)

Best post in this thread, right here.

Re:big deal (2)

UltraZelda64 (2309504) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072807)

Too bad the phrase doesn't hold up to time, because Debian has been getting incredibly easy to install, with pretty much everything except "non-free" drivers working at first boot... but yeah, it is a good phrase that historically has some truth to it.

Re:big deal (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071865)

Debian is a Klingon word that means "I'm scared of Slackware"

Re:big deal (1)

TeknoHog (164938) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072459)

Slackware is ancient Sumerian for "Beware of He Who Must Not Be Named, also known as Gentoo".

Re:big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43072387)

Ubuntu is an African word that means "I can't be arsed to configure Debian"

There, fixed that for you!

Re:big deal (5, Interesting)

dcollins117 (1267462) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072911)

Ubuntu is an African word that means "I can't configure Debian"

It's funny because it's true. As a windows user who wanted to learn how to use linux (15 years ago or so) I had the catch-22 issue of installing and configuring system I knew very little about. So it was crucial for me that the installation "just worked" to get a working machine to learn on. I tried Debian first and got no where, then tried Ubuntu and it "just worked".

Ubunutu is far from perfect, but it works good enough for new users that they can learn what they need to in order to abandon it once they tire of Canonical's shenanigans.

Not GNU/Steam (5, Funny)

ButchDeLoria (2772751) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070501)

Not free enough, 2/10 would not install.

Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070527)

Really. It's not. It hasn't been in a year or more, so can we stop this "Ubuntu it the big best Linux" crap already?

Ubuntu started to tank shortly after Shuttleworth sold his soul to the devil. The most popular distros are now Mint (by far), and probably also Mageia by now.

I personally don't see why Valve doesn't just aim for Debian support. If that works, Ubuntu, Mint and many more should be minimal effort.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070643)

I wanted to try Ubuntu at one point. The download page asked me to pay money to Canonical. Now I use CentOS.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070751)

It asked how much Ubuntu was worth to you. Debian's download page for the longest time had a "please donate to us"button. So to has slackware. And others.

You don't have to. :P

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (3, Informative)

Arashi256 (1804688) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070779)

That's a donation page, numbnuts.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070839)

You may want to try Ubuntu's official site next time.

I had to scroll down quite a ways before Ubuntu's download page mentioned money... and that was only if I wanted it on DVD. CentOS's download link takes me to their sponsor page before I can proceed to their list of mirrors... and it's not shy about asking for donations before you click on the mirrors link.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (1)

CodeReign (2426810) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070891)

That is the official site. When you click download it comes up with some sliders saying support for features etc. there is a click through at the bottom but it's not immediately obvious you don't have to pay.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (4, Insightful)

crazyjj (2598719) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071063)

Hate to break it to you, but most downloads on Steam are going to ask you to pay for them too.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071945)

I wanted to try Ubuntu at one point. The download page asked me to pay money to Canonical.

You don't have to pay. But Ubuntu is like Wikipedia: if you would like to see something like that in the future, and help it become even more awesome, you can throw some coins in the guitar case.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (4, Insightful)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070771)

It depends on how you determine popularity. Because Linux distros typically don't phone home at any point during installation or operation, it's impossible to know how many installs of a given distro are out there. Mint may have the most pageviews or the most downloads in the last X months, but it doesn't mean it's the most widely installed.

If a company with 1000 seats downloads Ubuntu once and uses that single download to install it on all 1000 PCs, while the business next door has all ten of its users download Mint to install on their own desktops then Mint appears to be ten times as popular as Ubuntu.

I'm not saying this is the case, just that it's almost impossible to figure out the most popular Linux distro. It's also important to point out that Mint is to Ubuntu what Ubuntu is to Debian... if Debian stopped, Ubuntu would die and if Ubuntu stopped then Mint would die.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (3, Informative)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071049)

Because Linux distros typically don't phone home at any point during installation or operation,

Bullshit excuse. They do request updates, don't they? Its not hard to tell who's using your Linux distro when they come to you for patches.

If a company with 1000 seats downloads Ubuntu once and uses that single download to install it on all 1000 PCs, while the business next door has all ten of its users download Mint to install on their own desktops then Mint appears to be ten times as popular as Ubuntu.

Yes, if you picked a particular 5 millisecond period and just used that as a basis for all of your extrapolation, but when you look at it on average, that sort of thing doesn't matter.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071187)

But in an enterprise situation, don't you typically have a small number of machines downloading patches from the repository, then distributing them to (potentially) thousands of machines via LAN?

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071451)

The company I work for has around 500 clients. We only have about a dozen servers that connect to Microsoft for updates, one of those servers is responsible for distributing the updates too all of the other clients.

The truth is that the largest groupings of users are corporate, and the larger a corporate userbase is then the more likely they will just have a few servers that grab the updates and distribute them for everyone else.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071959)

Hi Mr RIAA. It might come as a surprise to you, but 1 IP != 1 user.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071235)

To be rather pedantic, but still worth mentioning, technically speaking */Android/Linux is probably the most popular method of distribution, followed by POS/GNU/Linux and DVR/{busybox,GNU}/Linux, and finally by the {Slackware,Debian,Redhat,Gentoo,...}/GNU/Linux desktops and servers.

But as another post poined out, it's impossible to know.

RMS was not a self-promoting fool to push for "GNU/Linux", he foresaw there would be something like the rise of the Androids before most others, and that these different software stacks would need to be distinguished somehow.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071715)

I, too, enjoy revising history!

I don't think RMS is a fool, but his aim most certainly was promotional, not some prescient move to distinguish then-current distributions from future systems.

He wanted to raise awareness of the GNU project and what they had done to make totally free Unix a possibility, and as a side-effect, raise awareness of his personal crusade.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071347)

if Ubuntu stopped then Mint would die

You might want to check out Mint Debian. It's based directly on Debian as the name implies. I use the XFCE version at work on my 2 main boxes. It's a thing of beauty.
I actually attempted to install Steam on one of them a couple of days ago and ran in to dependency issues due to it requiring Ubuntu packages that didn't exist for it. Good work GhostSquad57!
BTW, the whole point of opensource is that if Debian "stopped", Canonical (and Mint) have all the sources and are quite free to pick it up and "start" it again.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071491)

They might have all of the sources, but they probably don't have enough developers. They might be able to afford enough developers to pick up the slack, but they might not be able to. Either way, development of Debian would be dead in the water for some period of time until someone (if anyone) stepped in to pick up the slack. It's also possible Ubuntu would shift to be based on some other distro or they find they can't adapt and die out.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (1)

westlake (615356) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072687)

If a company with 1000 seats downloads Ubuntu once and uses that single download to install it on all 1000 PCs...

....it is a locked down tight enterprise-wide distribution that doesn't include Steam, and, in that environment. more likely to be Red Hat than Ubuntu.

It is not the user's choice and not a popularity contest either.

Re:Ubuntu is NOT the most popular Linux OS. (1)

DaTrueDave (992134) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071227)

I'm not a Linux nerd. I've messed around with Red Hat a long time ago, and Ubuntu recently, but I do not follow Linux trends at all.

That said, all of the guys at work that try to talk me into using Linux are using Ubuntu and recommend Ubuntu. I've not heard anyone else anywhere claim that Ubuntu isn't the most popular flavor of Linux right now.

Wake me up when (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070545)

he rewrites the proprietary games distributed by steam(ing pile)...

Re:Wake me up when (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070865)

Somebody did make Half-Life 2 FOSS [bbc.co.uk] , he almost get sent to the Federal (nigger filled) Gulag in the USSA, the German authorities stopped that earlier.

Wow Slashdot! (5, Insightful)

bennyp (809286) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070557)

Check out this headline: Linux guy edits script to better suit his setup. Let's get this to the front page NOW!

Re:Wow Slashdot! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070633)

Yes, we're all duly impressed that someone was able to edit file system paths in an SH script. Let's hand out trophies for everyone!

This is what passes for laudible news, these days? WTF.

Re:Wow Slashdot! (5, Informative)

zigfreed (1441541) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070635)

It's worse than that. This is a Slashdot discussion about a Reddit thread [reddit.com] , with a third site intermediary.

Re:Wow Slashdot! (5, Insightful)

RocketRabbit (830691) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071323)

But how else can "anonymous reader" engage Dice Holdings' genius marketing team to promote thepowerbase.com's awesome news aggregator?

I think you are missing the point of these slashdot stories. They are pure SEO spam, designed to uprank whatever shitty site is giving us a synopsis of what is happening at another site.

It's really too bad the internet took off and was noticed by business and advertising types. We need a modern day digital Jesus to upset the money changers' tables.

Re:Wow Slashdot! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070733)

This. Slashdot is not HN!

Re:Wow Slashdot! (2)

GigaBurglar (2465952) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071043)

I was thinking the same thing. It's no more impressive than the build script in the Arch User Repository.

Re:Wow Slashdot! (2)

Ambiguous Coward (205751) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071505)

I don't even know what that means! We need laws outlawing this sort of thing, NOW.

Whoop-dee-do for Debian (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070631)

# layman -a gamerlay
# layman -S
# emerge steam-meta

Done. Been working since the middle of the beta for Gentoo users, and that distro doesn't even use .deb files natively. So... um... congrats, Debian? Nice to see you're still old and slow to react? I guess?

Re:Whoop-dee-do for Debian (1)

ninlilizi (2759613) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071017)

Pretty much this.
There was an installer for Arch in the AUR repository since nearly the start of closed beta

Re:Whoop-dee-do for Debian (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071523)

Obviously this one random guy represents the Debian project, not. What a typical Gentoo user, cocky and thinks he's so smart... unfortunately isn't. Guess again kiddo.

Re:Whoop-dee-do for Debian (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43072483)

Obviously this one random guy represents the Gentoo project, not. What a typical Slashdot poster, cocky and thinks he's so smart... unfortunately isn't. Guess again kiddo.

Re:Whoop-dee-do for Debian (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43072551)

So the guy probably did this:

cat>steam-installerEOF
layman -a gamerlay
layman -S
emerge steam-meta
EOF
chmod a+rx steam-installer

You could have been on slashdot !!!!!

Sounds like he's job hunting... (1)

turp182 (1020263) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070645)

Good way to get noticed by Valve.

Re:Sounds like he's job hunting... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071427)

I'm sure they really need kids who can trivially edit shell scripts!

Re:Sounds like he's job hunting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071431)

not necessarily in the way he wants.

Not Very Impressive (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070681)

Since Ubuntu uses Debian's package manager, this isn't much of a change. And people have had it working on Arch for over a month, it's even in their official repos now.

Re:Not Very Impressive (1)

kthreadd (1558445) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071713)

I don't know what this installer does in particular, but there's a lot of things different between Debian and Ubuntu. They are not at all the same system just because they share the same package manager. Ubuntu is no longer Debian with a fancy installer. Most Ubuntu packages are just recompiled Debian packages, they don't even necessarily work on Ubuntu.

For comparison, apt has been ported to Mac OS X as well. That doesn't mean that getting the Linux version of Steam to run on Mac OS X is easy just because apt can run on it.

Great drivers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070697)

I guess most debian users like myself have already worked around valves limitations the day after steam for linux was released and have already stopped using it since it's impossible to play anything with the open ati drivers and the only alternative, the proprietary driver for anything before radeon hd 5000 needs the fglrx-legacy which also is not available to wheezy.
I would install it or compile it myself anyway but that in turn has additinal requirements that I need to work around so I rather not play at all.

Re:Great drivers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43072577)

nvidia's drivers are worlds beyond the ati/amd drivers, if you are OK with using proprietary drivers.

Don't know why you bother to try.

Roopurt Homes (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070707)

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And getting caught by your dad
If you're not into poota
If you have half a nad
If you'd like humping butts at midnight
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Write to me and assrape.

bah (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070783)

OT but linux has a long way to go to on the Desktop, with the multitude of installers, and having to play around with antiquated X, and a retarded sound system.
Fresh install of Linux Mint, installed Steam, installed TF 2...bam.... software rendering, even though glxinfo says direct rendering....

until someone fixes X and rewrites it, and fixes the sound system, linux will continue to fail

Re:bah (2)

jedidiah (1196) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070941)

> with the multitude of installers, and having to play around with antiquated X, and a retarded sound system.

The only thing antiquated and retarded her is your argument.

> Fresh install of Linux Mint, installed Steam, installed TF 2...bam.... software rendering

Perhaps Steam doesn't like your video driver. It tends to be really vocal about this sort of thing. Tends to pester you to get current.

Re:bah (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071291)

It should just work. Do the same thing on a windows 7 system, and it will all just work. Video card drivers for all cards are built in. May not be fast or have all the features the current driver download from AMD/nVidia has, but it will work and it will be doing hardware rendering. If some shader model is not present in the hardware, it will tell you. But this is a hardware issue, not a software or driver issue.

Why can't it just work the way he described? Why does he have to give a shit about his video drivers? Seems Windows > Linux in this case.

Re:bah (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072601)

Hmm, Nvidia/AMD/ATI paid MS to include basic drivers.

Suprise suprise.

Re:bah (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43072031)

until someone fixes X and rewrites it, and fixes the sound system, linux will continue to fail

Don't worry. Steam will help to gather some extra buzz around Linux and there will be more parties interested in making things better.

What's the chance of a slackpkg installer? (1)

mark-t (151149) | about a year and a half ago | (#43070873)

[nt]

fedora repo (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070909)

Someone has been maintaining a fedora people repo for #steam for @fedora but he never becom popular! :|

How About an Uninstaller? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43070965)

Removing DRM rather than adding it seems like the better way to go.

Re:How About an Uninstaller? (1)

BumpyCarrot (775949) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071419)

Look out, grandad! Those darned kids are on your lawn again!

Typical Linux geek (5, Funny)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071005)

would rather be hacking the game than playing it.

Re:Typical Linux geek (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071845)

I'm running Debian, and I installed Steam just because there was no support, for fun-in-tinkering reasons. The only thing that needed to be done was to unpack a newer version of `libc` than the one in Sid and throw it in `LD_LIBRARY_PATH` (just copying `libc-2.15.so` from Ubuntu to the `steam-beta/lib` directory did just fine). There were also dependencies on `python-xkit`, `jockey-common` and `xterm|aterm`, but in practice they weren't needed at all. I set Valve's `steamdeps` script to be a symlink to /bin/true, and it all ran smoothly after that. Tried playing Half-life and Counterstrike in native Linux versions, and the performance was not as good as via Wine, but the Linux versions had only been out for a day then, perhaps they have had fixes since then (a more modern system than mine could perhaps run them without a hitch anyway, but for me they seemed to lock at 30 FPS - Vsync on or not).

I also install games via Wine for the same reason from time to time - just to prove that it can be done. Starcraft 2 was a bit tricky, but Antichamber was the by far worst one. Recommended if anyone has an afternoon to kill. A game within the game (actually, in the case of Starcraft 2 I then never played the game itself).

Re:Typical Linux geek (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43072437)

Exactly, I came here to post this. They'd rather be working ON the operating system, than working WITH the OS.

 

It's on Arch linux too (1)

fa2k (881632) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071229)

It's in the Arch Linux main repositories, I just checked

Don't know if I'm impressed or disappointed.. There's lots of other S/W in the user repositories that I would rather have in the main one before Steam. But great job, whoever did it

I thought Steam would be an Ubuntu-only thing, but I stand corrected, this is pretty good

Turns out that it crashes before the client even starts on my system, but my GPU driver is dodgy, so it's maybe not Steam's fault

Re:It's on Arch linux too (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071873)

you failed to understand how linux and distributions work

Should have been Debian to begin with (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071233)

Why Valve decided to create their installer for Ubuntu rather than Debian made zero sense (since a Debian installer would have worked perfectly on Ubuntu but not the other way around).
The only explanation I can think of is that they had a deal with Canonical to increase the take up of Ubuntu.

Re:Should have been Debian to begin with (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071401)

I think it's because the type of wannabee nerds who are hardcore gamers are very often not the programming type. They're the pizza, pot, beer, games-over-girlfriends, work-in-call-center types of fatties.

To this demographic, Debian is not a household term, but Ubuntu is.

That thing has an installer? Totally missed that. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43071251)

Thanks AUR!

Might Matter -IF- (1)

hduff (570443) | about a year and a half ago | (#43071879)

This might matter IF he had made it possible to install Steam on ANY major Linux distro. This just makea "Steam for Ubuntu" into "Steam for Debian", so . . .

meh

News!!! Make something and be bashed!!!! (1)

mescobal (1516701) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072211)

What happen to you guys? I'm no engineer, but i'm no newbie. I'm a doctor, I don't have time to tinker with everything in my PC. So when I installed steam on one of my Debian machines (I had Ubuntu but for ethical reasons returned to Debian) and it didn't work out I felt disappointed. I DON'T HAVE TIME to make the changes myself. So, when someone does it an shares it I'd say good for us all. And the one that said "...Ubuntu is an African word that means "I can't configure Debian"...": that's old, boring, false, trollish, etc. I CAN configure lots of things in all of my Debian machines. Debian could be the acronym of "I can't stand Unity" or "I don't sell myself to corporations". But, seriously, guys... that attitude is NOT what makes out OS a great one. So: F'You (quoting Linux). And thanks to the guy doing the real work.

Re:News!!! Make something and be bashed!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43072511)

God damnit, Jim! I'm not an engineer! I'm a doctor!

Re:News!!! Make something and be bashed!!!! (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072771)

It's really not about diminishing his accomplishment. It's about why is this on the Slashdot front page, there must be something nerdier and more interesting in the firehose. Not that I've looked, sometimes there ain't.

Playing on Fedora since public beta... no problem (2)

PartyBoy!911 (611650) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072353)

Valve put it out ther on their developer site since day one... https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Steam_under_Linux [valvesoftware.com]

1 Native Steam on Linux
        1.1 Unpackaged
        1.2 Arch Linux
        1.3 Fedora
        1.4 Gentoo
        1.5 openSUSE / SUSE
        1.6 Ubuntu

So big deal, it only took you 3 months more time then the other distro's
15:56, 16 December 2012 Hanno (Talk | contribs) (9,101 bytes) (Native Steam on Linux Beta Client)

Re:Playing on Fedora since public beta... no probl (1)

egr (932620) | about a year and a half ago | (#43072569)

Hey, thanks for the information! I didn't know that so many have already ported the package. To be honest I didn't follow the progress either.
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