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Ask Slashdot: Dealing With Flagged Channels For XBMC PVR?

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the you-want-everything dept.

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AlphaWolf_HK writes "I own an HDHomeRun Prime tuner, and unfortunately I live in an area where the cable provider (Cox) blanket flags all channels to be copy restricted. I'm tired of using Windows Media Center due to bugs and other problems, but since the channels are flagged it is the only option. Satellite is of course not an option at all (no cablecard or similar standard.) I've already begun moving most of my content watching to XBMC in the form of using sickbeard and couchpotato, both of which do an amazing job even with torrents now that Usenet has been getting hit pretty hard. To match this, I've already dropped my cable tier to the lowest possible for some basic digital channels that people in my household still watch and aren't available over torrents. But ideally I'd like to cut the cord completely as the service is otherwise useless. Are there any options for obtaining this content without physically moving to Comcast territory where they don't do this? Or perhaps any workarounds for the CCI flag? Ideally, anything that allows XBMC with digital content and no transcoding."

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Rule #1 (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108153)

Thanks for contributing to the death of the platform you are trying to use.

Re:Rule #1 (0, Offtopic)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108219)

Stop buying chips and you find you aren't filling between meals on mindless munching, with long-term negative nutritional effects.

Television is like Chips.

You use it largely to fill time, on the promise that it's almost what you wanted to see.

Stop watching TV, and often you are missing only reminders of things you enjoy - not those things, themselves.

Re:Rule #1 (5, Funny)

geminidomino (614729) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108297)

Thanks for that post. What would we do without you? [theonion.com]

Re:Rule #1 (0)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108587)

OK, smartypants. YOU explain "A Mexican Dad", "How I Schtupped Your Mother", "Big Brain Theory" or every pawnshop-owning, chopper-building, barn-raiding, cousin-with-benefits cracker on History, Discovery and Tru.

Re:Rule #1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108771)

Spectator sports...

(i.e. things you can't or don't want to do, but enjoy watching others do)

Re:Rule #1 (-1, Troll)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108911)

Ahhh.

I see. I have never experienced this vicarious engagement.

Dancing and Fucking are two things I do well enough, that it's no use watching others...

Re:Rule #1 (2, Informative)

iamhassi (659463) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108461)

You're right. I taught everyone in the house how to use torrents. Now we only watch what we want when we want. Haven't had TV service in over 5 years, went from xbmc to roku and plex with torrents, Netflix, and basic Hulu. It's not bad at all, everyone does this anyway with DVR, recording everything and watching it later. I am considering a Android PC for a good all-in-one solution. [amazon.com]

Re:Rule #1 (1)

AlphaWolf_HK (692722) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108813)

Exactly, and this is where sickbeard and couchpotato come in. They make the torrent process transparent. Just add your content and it shows up later.

Re:Rule #1 (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108885)

All my kids have ever known is "grey market" streaming and Netflix/Amazon. They are almost 15.

Re:Rule #1 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108465)

No, there are so many good shows, that bad TV isn't used as a filler anymore. We pick and choose what we watch these days instead of channel-surfing. Your extremist view isn't helpful in any way.

Re:Rule #1 (2)

operagost (62405) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108471)

I'm sure that, every time you go on vacation, it's exactly what you'd wanted to experience.

I'm sure that, every time you go to the store, you're able to buy exactly what you wanted to buy.

I'm sure that, every time you go to a movie or a play, it's exactly what you'd hoped it would be.

And I'm sure that, every time you go to sleep, your dreams are totally awesome because of the hard psychoactive drugs you're on.

Re:Rule #1 (2, Insightful)

jedidiah (1196) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108541)

Low expectations are the death of the free market.

They're the death of liberty in general.

You must be one really sad little sheep.

Re:Rule #1 (2)

poetmatt (793785) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108759)

I don't think you have to be on drugs to know that there is no reason to watch TV on a network as opposed to IPTV or downloading the shows. If it's broadcast on public TV who even gives a shit if someone has a problem with daring to get it in the format of your choosing without commercials?

it's 2013, not 1990, gost.

Re:Rule #1 (2)

thelovebus (264467) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108493)

You know what? You're right! I should stop watching Top Gear and start driving million-dollar super cars myself! I don't know why this didn't occur to me earlier!

Re:Rule #1 (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108679)

Can someone moderate this idiot as off topic flamebait?

If you personally dislike TV, that's your business. Other people like TV. We like shows like "How they make that".

You are like an idiot that hears how the 1997 NY city phone book was the most popular book ever published, reads it, then complains that all books are stupid.

Stop telling other people what to enjoy, and live your own life.

Re:Rule #1 (1)

Hatta (162192) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108907)

What else would I do with the hour and a half when I'm done thinking but not yet tired enough to go to sleep? Before the industrial revolution, all that time was filled with chores. But labor saving technology has given me more free time than I have mental energy to be productive with. TV fills this spot nicely.

Re:Rule #1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108915)

That's right. Instead of watching Breaking Bad, become a drug king pin. Clearly that's what you really want to do. Stop being a pussy.

Re:Rule #1 (1)

SeNtM (965176) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108245)

Rule #1: Don't talk about CCI bit.

Rule #2: Don't talk about CCI bit.

Re:Rule #1 (1)

AlphaWolf_HK (692722) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108795)

Uhhh...torrents are going to die because of me?

Wow I didn't realize there was such an easy point of failure, looks like me and slashdot managed to do what the RIAA and MPAA never could do.

Don't try it, it's illegal (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108169)

Write to your congress critter, whine online, nothing will happen. Cancel the service, you can live without cable-TV.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (2)

rudy_wayne (414635) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108267)

Cancel the service, you can live without cable-TV.

Agreed.

If you're using sickbeard and/or couchpotato to download TV shows from Usenet, what do you need Cox for?

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (1)

LearningHard (612455) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108427)

For the shows he can't pirate.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108553)

lol?

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (2)

AlphaWolf_HK (692722) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108675)

Submitter here:

Actually not using usenet. Used to, and it was good, but not anymore.

The first and second rules about usenet do not apply, and I want to emphasize that strongly. I knew this would come up, but my summary was becoming too long as it is. Everybody and their mother's dog knows about torrents though.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (3, Informative)

seinman (463076) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108727)

Live broadcasts. For me, it's sports. There are a lot of sporting events that I want to watch that are only on cable/satellite. Even if there was someone torrenting sporting events (I've looked high and low, unless it's the super bowl, this doesn't exist), I would still rather watch most of them live.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (2)

feld (980784) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108783)

you're not looking hard enough. i see 720p releases of sports all the time.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (5, Insightful)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108303)

I believe the OP is looking for answers, not a lecture.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (4, Insightful)

Art Challenor (2621733) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108529)

This is "Ask Slashdot", you always get one of those and sometimes both.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108305)

No music or video is worth jailtime.
If I don't pay for the subscription video, You loose some direct money but I still see the ads and you make money from the advertisers.
If you make it illegal to watch by restricting, I won't watch. You loose more money because I won't watch ads.
and guess what I win my life back.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108487)

This. Right here. Is the answer. I don't know why it is that some people HAVE to watch TV at all let alone a particular show. If we all ignore them they will go away and we'll be better off for it.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (2)

Mister Whirly (964219) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108649)

So basically you are admitting you can't understand how people could like some things you don't like? And implying that if everyone lived their life the way you do the world would be a better place? Sounds like a dreadfully simplistic view to me.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (1)

Spectre (1685) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108739)

This. Right here. Is the answer. I don't know why it is that some people HAVE to watch TV at all let alone a particular show. If we all ignore them they will go away and we'll be better off for it.

... but we have to protect their business model! How will we know that this year's model of the Gluttonous Seats 9 Suburban Assault Vehicle has automatic rain-sensing windshield wipers if we don't watch Some Stupid People on TV and view the advertisements?

Obviously the answer is to tape everyone's eyeballs open and put a TV-glasses on them so that people will be properly indoctrinated^W educated on these issues.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (3, Insightful)

jedidiah (1196) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108607)

> No music or video is worth jailtime.

When has that ever happened?

People get SUED for that sort of thing. The Gestapo doesn't come breaking down your door over music or video. They value it about as much as you do.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108313)

I canceled cable tv about a year ago. No history on the history channel, and reality tv on TLC/Discover etc. Honey boo boo was the last straw. I looked at our viewing habits closely and realized we really didn't watch that much any more that couldn't be replaced with DVD rental and Netflix/Amazon streaming. I honestly haven't missed it and get more than enough entertainment from those other sources. We watch less TV, but what we do watch is far more focused on what we want to see rather than whats on at the time.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (3, Funny)

BobNET (119675) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108639)

I, personally, would rather spend my time doing something useful than watch television. In fact, I don't even own one.

I'm not an elitist. It's just that I'd much rather sculpt or write in my journal or read Proust than sit there passively staring at some phosphorescent screen. If I need a fix of passive audio-visual stimulation, I'll go to catch a Bergman or Truffaut film down at the university. I certainly wouldn't waste my time watching the so-called Learning Channel or, God forbid, any of the mind sewage the major networks pump out.

People don't realize just how much time their TV-watching habit -- or, shall I say, addiction -- eats up. Four hours of television a day, over the course of a month, adds up to 120 hours. That's five entire days! Why not spend that time living your own life, instead of watching fictional people live theirs? I can't begin to tell you how happy I am not to own a television.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108711)

I'm not an elitist.

Yes you are. Telling people with a certain hobby that your hobbies are superior to theirs is the very definition of elitist.

Why not spend that time living your own life, instead of telling other people how to live theirs?

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (1)

poetmatt (793785) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108785)

everyone has their preferences, but I think the mistake is using a TV to watch TV. Use TV as a gigantic monitor with which to broadcast what you download. Why else should anyone even want a TV? To spend 30 minutes watching a 20 minute show? Since when does that even make sense?

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108891)

I'd much rather sculpt or write in my journal or read Proust than sit there passively staring at some phosphorescent screen. If I need a fix of passive audio-visual stimulation, I'll go to catch a Bergman or Truffaut film down at the university.

Why not spend that time living your own life, instead of watching fictional people live theirs?

I didn't realize Proust, Bergman, and Truffaut only made biographies.

Re:Don't try it, it's illegal (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108989)

Compare these two things.

Hulu/Netflx Subscription with buying / renting DVD/BLURAY of things you would like to watch not available on TV

VS

Cable TV (or SAT) package that has "most" of the stuff you want to watch and still supplementing with DVD/BLURAY purchases/rentals.

The $100/mo cable plan looks really expensive just to get a few shows on Premier night and the few live events you're interested in.

Go OTA (5, Informative)

Lev13than (581686) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108231)

What about using an antenna? I cut cable about 7 years ago - everything comes in on Mythbuntu via an HDHR hooked up to a small roof-mounted antenna. We get about 30 channels OTA with no excess compression and no copy protection. Everything else comes in over the net (Netflix and "other").

You don't say what metro area you are in or whether you are living in an antenna-friendly building but you've already got 90% of the gear you need. Lots of info on the web about how to make the jump. You may have already investigated OTA, but if not you definitely should.

Re:Go OTA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108431)

OTA is the only 'workaround', but then you only get local channels. Cable providers are allowed to set the 5C flags to "Copy Once", and you have no way of asking them not to. I don't know of anything avaliable that can change the flag from "Copy Once" to "Copy Freely".

Re:Go OTA (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108719)

Get a Dreambox, install one of the 'special' firmwares and you can watch and record whatever, whenever. Google for more info.

You might be surprised at the # of local channels (1, Insightful)

SpiceWare (3438) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108997)

Due to subchannels each station can broadcast multiple shows at the same time. Because of that there's 100+ OTA channels here in Houston. Sure I don't watch them all (as I don't speak Spanish, Chinese, Vietnamese or Farsi) but I didn't watch all the channels available on DirecTV either.

I cut the cord a couple months ago and for shows I can't get over the air I just buy them streaming via Amazon, iTunes, etc. or on blu-ray compilations. I've saved $162 in the past 2 months over what I had been paying DirecTV.

If you're interested, these are my blog entries [atariage.com] about my DVR project.

Re:Go OTA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108789)

> We get about 30 channels OTA

So do I but the vast majority of the channels are useless for Americans. I don't want a dozen channels of religious nuts screaming in Mexican or a bunch of Chinese people screaming in an attempt to sell crap. We're left with only three channels that aren't full of angry gibberish. Political correctness in this country has ruined OTA TV. At least that's true in the Seattle area. I haven't tried it elsewhere.

Buy an antenna.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108259)

http://www.antennaweb.org/

HD PVR (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108311)

Use an HD PVR with the component outputs of your cable box - no cable card so you have to pay the monthly cable box rental fee. This will allow you to record anything that the cable box can see.

http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html

I haven't used XBMC but this works very well with MythTV and Verizon FIOS.

Re:HD PVR (1)

heezer7 (708308) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108451)

+1 for HD PVR under MythTV. Works great.

Re:HD PVR (1)

Kid Mirage (881570) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108709)

Add to this some software like NextPVR to record shows. I use an HD PVR/NextPvr/XBMC solution and I'm very happy with it.

Re:HD PVR (2)

Dorkmaster Flek (1013045) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108829)

I second the Hauppauge HD PVR as pretty awesome as a PVR. I use it to record gameplay videos, and it also works under Linux, although not officially supported. The Mythbuntu FAQ I believe has a good entry on using it. It worked with no extra steps just plugging it in under my Ubuntu install.

Netflix! (1)

Idimmu Xul (204345) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108315)

It's totally awesome and completely changed my TV watching habits. Also bonus points for UK citizens, you don't need a TV license :D

Re:Netflix! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108407)

A licence to watch TV? Seriously?

Do you need to ask the governments permission to take a piss too?

Re:Netflix! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108475)

they used to need licenses to listen to radio as well. not certain if that still applies or got folded into the television license.

Re:Netflix! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108503)

It's a license, or fee, to own a TV.
You have to pay it whether or not you actually watch TV.
Canada has a fee for blank optical media. Whether you're going to burn pirated content or not.
Do Canadians need to ask the governments [sic] permission to take a piss too?

its a tax (1)

Stax (13864) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108849)

A television Tax.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom

Re:Netflix! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108447)

It also works under Wine [compholio.com] now.

Basic services are often free over the air (2)

schwep (173358) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108329)

Get a pair of digital rabbit ears - you should be able to pick up many local channels (which is what it sounds like you want). Depending on where you live, a TV antenna either out doors, or in your attic might solve the problem. Then you can pretty much cut the cable completely - and still be legal.

Alternatively, look for other (smaller) providers. I have family that lives in an area where there is one big cable company, and 2 or three much smaller companies that offer very similar & competitive products.

Re:Basic services are often free over the air (2)

roc97007 (608802) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108519)

> Get a pair of digital rabbit ears

Enh.... rabbit ears are not "digital" or "analog". The "digital" on the package is marketing for the uninformed. Like "color" used to be.

Also, those set top antennas that are shaped like a dish? They're not really satellite antennas. Sorry.

One Christmas I bought the wife a large farmhouse-style antenna, put it on a tall mast (suitably protected against lightning) and DARED the homeowner's association to try to make me take it down. It's been five years; no takers so far. We get thirteen digital channels off the antenna, although many of them are crap.

Navi-X should save you (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108339)

Great plug-in, and if the server is not overloaded, it finds most what you're looking for.
(direct streaming instead of download, then play)

Geeze (5, Funny)

TheSkepticalOptimist (898384) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108345)

First world problems...

Re:Geeze (0)

Dishevel (1105119) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108463)

First world problems...

In my life so far I have never found a decent person that used that term.

Re:Geeze (2)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108847)

There's always a first time for everything. I take it you don't like being reminded how petty your problems are?

Re:Geeze (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year and a half ago | (#43109001)

Maybe your standards are too high.

Re:Geeze (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108603)

Correct, Unless you are the most unfortunate person in the world you have no right to feel bad. /rolls_eyes

What tuner are you using? (1)

Andy Dodd (701) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108347)

See subject... I'm fairly certain hdhomerun + MythTV has no issues with unencrypted channels. I've been using that combo for year.

Re:What tuner are you using? (1)

lart2150 (724284) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108491)

The issue is channels that are encrypted and require a cable card aka almost all but broadcast channels and that's changing(thanks fcc for not looking out for us). I have RCN and the only channels that they flag that I've run into so far are the premium movie channels. OP I think your options are switch to Comcast(I think they flag a tad more then they should be are not too bad) or give up on rolling your own dvr.

Re:What tuner are you using? (1)

jedidiah (1196) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108645)

It's all a roll of the dice. It depends on what cable company you have. You may be lucky and all of the channels you watch are recordable, or everything may be locked down. Local branches of the same national franchise may even operate differently.

My local landline monopoly (Time Warner) is of the "encrypt it all" variety. Needless to say, I will never be their customer.

Use the analog hole, Luke! (1)

pla (258480) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108363)

How about dropping digital cable entirely and just ripping from analog channels?

It worked for TiVi et al for a decade before digital cable became common.

Re:Use the analog hole, Luke! (1)

thelovebus (264467) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108569)

One potential objection to this is that you can't generally get most HD channels on a non-digital service tier. Probably for the very reason that they can charge you more for the same content by only providing on the digital tiers.

Re:Use the analog hole, Luke! (1)

AlphaWolf_HK (692722) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108721)

I've been considering doing exactly this, but would like to avoid it if possible. Reasons I want to avoid it include no encoding and if I buy an analog tuner it won't be useful for that much longer as the analog cable spectrum is about to be removed.

Budget? (2)

sl3xd (111641) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108365)

Budget is something that you should consider as well. You can get what you want, if you have the coin.

For instance, before I cut the "cable", my setup was as follows:

* Sattelite, outputting to component video and optical spdif
* A Hauppage HD-PVR, which takes component video in, and optical spdif in, and records/encodes the video to H.264
* MythTV (though you can choose other options)
* An IR blaster, pointed at the sattelite receiver.
* A $50 recent nVIDIA or ATI graphics card that supports VDPAU (ie. GPU-accelerated H.264 decode).

What happened is MythTV would signal the IR blaster to change the channel on the satellite, and then record the video.

The HD-PVR made excellent quality video, at an acceptable size. There are limitations to the HD-PVR's video (the video it encodes, while H.264, is in a format that requires a single, fast core to decode - something about multi-core decode not working at all...).

The HD-PVR even comes with its own IR blaster; I just never took the time to figure out how to use it, as I already had an exceptionally nice IR blaster. The HD-PVR is also a bit finicky, occasionally crashing and requiring a hard power cycle - I even had a network-commanded power relay that would cycle the power to the HD-PVR @ 3:00 AM daily (when even Satellite stopped broadcasting)

In the end, it was not bullet-proof (as occasionally the channel didn't change quite right, for example), but it worked 99% of the time. Full 1080 video with AC3 surround sound.

I've since discontinued my Satellite service, and record on-air ATSC broadcasts - and switched to steaming services. I don't really miss Sattelite, and save about $100/month in subscription fees...

I'm considering hooking a MythTV recording box up at my brother's house (who has cable), and pay him double the "extra TV" charge per month, and then just swap out external hard drives occasionally...

Definitely buy an antenna (1)

NeverVotedBush (1041088) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108381)

I don't get all the local channels, but I get all but one and live pretty far away from the transmitters. The quality is far beyond satellite and cable even when you pay for the supposed HD channels. Those just aren't compressed quite as regular D and besides the image aspect ratio. Over the air antenna is probably the best you are going to get. And it is free. So what if you don't get all the shopping channels and the hands in your pockets preachers.

Re:Definitely buy an antenna (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108913)

If you don't want to watch angry Mexicans or stupid religious freaks then OTA in the US is useless. It's been almost a decade since the FCC has granted a new license for a nongibberish or nonreligious TV channel.

We have Reagan to blame for taking bandwidth away from entertainment to give to the xtian cultists and Clinton to blame for giving it to Mexicans. In the end, the consumer is screwed from both sides.

Shows on Usenet hard to find? what? (1)

Nyder (754090) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108405)

If you can't find 90% of your TV shows on Usenet, you are either stupid, or doing it wrong. Some shows, NCIS, NCIS LA, Supernatural and a couple others get tagged right away, UFC stuff gets tagged within 5 hours usually. so I torrent those files usually.

But the rest? I have no problem finding at all. Oh, wait, The Carries Diaries never show up, but I think it's sort of a kid/teenagers show. Actress is hot though.

Granted, there might be a time soon when it's getting hard to get TV shows off Usenet, but that time isn't now. Still the best $10 a month service I pay for.

Re:Shows on Usenet hard to find? what? (1)

AlphaWolf_HK (692722) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108753)

You should try reading the summary a bit there hoss. It's somewhat difficult to torrent live broadcasts.

Re:Shows on Usenet hard to find? what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108811)

try to find an episode of Caillou (kid's programming) it is actually kinda hard. the big name shows are the easy ones though, especially if it is adult oriented.

tl;dr: little kid's shows are the hardest to find.

Re:Shows on Usenet hard to find? what? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108817)

Really? I've been seeing more and more stuff get some sort of numeric file name. The stuff is all being posted, but with scrambled names for some private communities I guess.

this worked for us... (4, Informative)

roc97007 (608802) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108423)

a) Cancel cable service. Retain or sign up for broadband.

b) Erect old fashion antenna. (We get 13 digital channels off the antenna, although many of them are crap.

c) Buy roku box. ($99 Amazon), less than the cost of 1 month of cable.

d) Subscribe to Netflix streaming, and/or Hulu +, Amazon streaming (Any combination still a tiny fraction of the cost of cable/satellite)

e) Whatever you can't get via above, torrent, or maybe read a book, go walk the dog, try to remember what your kids look like.

f) When all else fails, remember, It's Only TV. It's quite a ways down on Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

Re:this worked for us... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108967)

b) Erect old fashion antenna. (We get 13 digital channels off the antenna, although many of them are crap.

I get 130 digital channels off cable, although many of them are crap.

Help me steal crap (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108453)

There are legitimate gripes about access, copy protection, and copyright issues... but this doesn't come close to any of them.

This entire post can be summarized as: "I want more content, but don't want to pay for any of it. 80% of that content I already can steal, but I need help stealing the last 20%."

The word "steal" will cause some objections, but replace it with either "gain access to content without paying for it" or "circumvent copyprotections and break the DMCA" and you're dead on.

There's a somewhat legitimate question of "I'm paying for cable but can't watch it how I want to", but it's buried under all the references to torrents, usenet, and bypassing the copyright flag. Even a passing reference to already using some recognized legal channels like Hulu or Netflix would lend SOME level of credibility.

Re:Help me steal crap (5, Insightful)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108693)

Wrong.

The entire post is can be summurized as:

I was paying for it and they won't let me fucking watch it on my equipment so now I just steal it since apparently pirates can do a better job of getting me what I want to watch FOR FREE than Comcast can manage to pull of while consume copious amounts of my money for the disservice.

Re:Help me steal crap (5, Insightful)

jedidiah (1196) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108713)

> There are legitimate gripes about access, copy protection, and copyright issues... but this doesn't come close to any of them.

Sure it does and you're a big fat jackass.

This is about some guy wanting to use the service he's paid for in the way he wants to use it. The service provider will let him use Windows but this guy doesn't want to do that because he finds that it sucks. He can't use alternatives and is stuck using one monopoly product to deal with another.

This whole "we need to encrypt everything" is nonsense. As soon as you paid for it, you should be able to use it however you like.

The path between the cable box and the TV should be all in the clear.

Re:Help me steal crap (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108733)

I would prefer to find a way to take those shows away from the cable companies without watching them. This is the second best.

Rule #1 of Usenet (1)

benjfowler (239527) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108483)

Rule #1 of Usenet. You do not talk about Usenet...

Whoops, too late.

Re:Rule #1 of Usenet (1)

AlphaWolf_HK (692722) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108775)

Except I'm not using usenet.

Cheese I guess when they say people don't read TFS, they're right.

Usenet (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108527)

Perhaps someone should get TPB involved in creating a new NZB-indexing site. They've seemed to manage to keep alive torrenting, which has the same relation to the pirated content, so why wouldn't they be able to do the same for Usenet?

Get a life? (1)

Tim Ward (514198) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108531)

As title. Get a life, then no need to watch the box.

No Shit? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108573)

No shit, abusing the no record flag?

Many of us saw that coming when they proposed adding it to the standard.

Stop wanting so much. (2)

Rude Turnip (49495) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108599)

You keep wanting something that they do not want to give you. Until you realize this, you have taken the losing position. Move your dollars to service providers that provide content on your terms.

DVBLink (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108677)

It is probably what you want. I'm fairly certain its what I want as well.

The problem is that it doesn't freaking support encrypted channels in the US either apparently, or at least last time I tried.

I would absolutely love to get a raspberry pi to talk nicely with a Windows Media Center server, which apparently is easy as Pi ... in England :(

New hardware time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108683)

get STB from cable co. HDfury (hdcp stripper) and a capture card

use something like mythtv or mediaportal as a backend server then connect xbmc to it.

~$300 in hardware depending on cost of the STB from your cable co

i thought the broadcast flag (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108705)

was ripped from the law books by court rulings.... why are the coxuckers flagging every channel?

complain to your local government that grants cox its local franchise (those agreements can be revoked ya know -- kick the fuckers out), complain to your state attorney general, complain to the fcc, complain to your senators and representatives, write a letter to the editor in your local news paper, contact the consumer affairs reporters for your local tv stations.

Use the analog hole with something like a HD-PVR (1)

Stradenko (160417) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108715)

Hauppauge's HD-PVR takes component input. It's an expensive and inelegant solution, but it's the one you're looking for.

Are you listening, Big Media? (1)

Scutter (18425) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108747)

But ideally I'd like to cut the cord completely as the service is otherwise useless.

GET A JOB AND YOU WON"T HAVE TO STEAL YOUR SHIT !! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108769)

Try it !! It may even keep you out of hell !! Owning does not mean whatever you can download from Russia !! Get a job !! Get a DVR !! Enjoy a sin-free life !!

Re:GET A JOB AND YOU WON"T HAVE TO STEAL YOUR SHIT (1)

AlphaWolf_HK (692722) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108833)

I probably spend more on content than your monthly salary, and still have plenty left over.

Re:GET A JOB AND YOU WON"T HAVE TO STEAL YOUR SHIT (2)

almostinsane (770051) | about a year and a half ago | (#43109017)

And you still feel that you are entitled to piracy?

No antenna? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43108861)

We have been in DirectTV for over 10 years.
They will install the antenna for cheap. (We got ours free through a promotion.)

I watch the shows I want (L&O, Rizzoli & Isles, etc.) my wife watches her shows (Judge Judy, Duck Dynasty, etc).
I have their DVD, so no idea on offline access. But still....

My son has Netflix on his PC (when he is working!)

Lots of options.

when did this change? (2)

spire3661 (1038968) | about a year and a half ago | (#43108909)

When did Cox turn flags on the content? I had a HDHOMRUNPRIME running on CableCARD last year until the Olympics melted the server. (was re-compressing to mp4 from MPEG-2, Q6600 just couldn't process that much video that fast.) I could record pretty much everything but HBO, Showtime etc. Now im just using antenna and the old school HDHomerun ATSC tuners so i havent tried premium cable in a while. Guess ill set it up at my in-laws and see what happens.

Hauppauge pvr-1212 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43109045)

Hauppauge pvr-1212 and an cable box with Component Video outputs can circumvent the broadcast flags and still provide HD content.

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