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New Pope Selected

Soulskill posted about a year and a half ago | from the holy-smokes dept.

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Freshly Exhumed sends this quote from CBC: "Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina has been selected as Pope of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics. He will be known as Pope Francis. He is the first Pope from the Americas. The 76-year-old was the runner-up to Benedict XVI during the last conclave. He is well-known for his humility and espouses church teachings on homosexuality, abortion and contraception. He has no Vatican experience."

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oh cool.. (5, Funny)

Matt Kikuchi (2840611) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162653)

"Goes back to work"

76? (5, Insightful)

sycodon (149926) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162717)

Best keep that straw and chimney handy.

Re:oh cool.. (2)

kthreadd (1558445) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162737)

What is this "work" you're talking about?

POPEMOBILE (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162655)

Cruisin' for Preteens in my Popemobile Cruiser.

So.... (4, Interesting)

Daetrin (576516) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162657)

espouses church teachings on homosexuality, abortion and contraception

So nothing important is going to change then? Or am i misreading that?

Re:So.... (5, Insightful)

TechyImmigrant (175943) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162673)

espouses church teachings on homosexuality, abortion and contraception

So nothing important is going to change then? Or am i misreading that?

Well people could choose to stop with the religion thing in response.

OMG the Last Pope EVAR!!!!!!!1 (3, Interesting)

Freshly Exhumed (105597) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162727)

Devotees of Ireland's 12th century Saint Malachy believe that he predicted back then that the new Pope will be the very last one:

http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/St-Malachy-predicted-Pope-Benedicts-successor-will-be-last-pope-190715001.html [irishcentral.com]

Re:OMG the Last Pope EVAR!!!!!!!1 (1)

operagost (62405) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162755)

He was supposed to take the name Peter II, though.

Re:OMG the Last Pope EVAR!!!!!!!1 (3, Insightful)

Kryptonian Jor-El (970056) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162789)

Not technically. The prophecy called him "Peter the Roman" but that doesn't mean that has to be his given or pope name. Also, the church will never have a Peter II out of respect for the first pope, Peter

Re:OMG the Last Pope EVAR!!!!!!!1 (3, Funny)

operagost (62405) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162851)

Well, he's more like "Jorge the Argentinian".

Re:OMG the Last Pope EVAR!!!!!!!1 (3, Informative)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162875)

Im not sure its entirely accurate to call Peter the "first pope". The office as such did not exist, and the specific role of "pope" was never acknowledged by Peter or anyone else at that time.

Re:OMG the Last Pope EVAR!!!!!!!1 (0)

Freshly Exhumed (105597) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162805)

Don't worry, someone will rationalize that problem into further "proof" ;)

Re:OMG the Last Pope EVAR!!!!!!!1 (4, Funny)

Farmer Tim (530755) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162967)

The church must have petered out.

Re:OMG the Last Pope EVAR!!!!!!!1 (1)

C0R1D4N (970153) | about a year and a half ago | (#43163027)

There's been like six popes named Benedict since the 12th century

Re:So.... (2)

Trepidity (597) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162837)

In theory he could change those teachings. But it seems unlikely.

But I mean really, is it news that the person selected Pope agrees with Church teachings? The Cardinals aren't too likely to select someone who disagrees with them.

Re:So.... (4, Informative)

v1 (525388) | about a year and a half ago | (#43163017)

In theory he could change those teachings. But it seems unlikely.

They don't pick a pope that's promising reform, they pick one that will carry on just like the previous popes. Religions appear to prefer stagnation, at least at their upper levels. I wonder if it has anything to do with their age? "Clinging to the past" seems to be a common hobby with most old farts ;)

I like the "he has no previous experience" thing they mentioned. I don't think "have you ever been a pope before?" was part of the the interview...

Re:So.... (5, Funny)

ShanghaiBill (739463) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162861)

So nothing important is going to change then? Or am i misreading that?

The World will continue to change, but the Catholic Church will not be leading those changes. Here is a car analogy: If the World was a car driving down the freeway of life, the Catholic Church would be a parking brake that was not fully disengaged, thus impeding progress slightly and emitting a bad smell.

Re:So.... (5, Funny)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162903)

That's kind of the point of religion. It's not supposed to be very dynamic. It's supposed to be a set of guiding morals, for example Buddhism's guiding moral of "Don't Be A Giant Dickhead." This hasn't changed to "It's Okay To Be A Giant Dickhead When It Makes You Feel Better" or "Be A Giant Dickhead, But Only To Politicians And Wall Street Bankers." Now times are changing and it's probably not really terrible to be a giant dickhead to Wall Street bankers, but eh. That's not what Buddhism is about.

New Leader of Ignorance Cult Selected... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162659)

...nothing changes.

Yawn.

MMMMmmmmmm....... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162663)

Delicious science news...

in 4...3..2..1.. expect at least (1, Informative)

etash (1907284) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162677)

10 interpretations which will try to connect bertoglio with the prophecy of the popes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_popes

Long live petrus romanus!

Re:in 4...3..2..1.. expect at least (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162731)

He has a cat named Peter

Re:in 4...3..2..1.. expect at least (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162839)

Is his cat's last name "File"?

Re:in 4...3..2..1.. expect at least (2)

bistromath007 (1253428) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162779)

I honestly expected them to get somebody from Rome named Peter on purpose. The cardinals really don't get marketing.

News for nerds (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162679)

stuff that matters

News for nerds? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162685)

What is his favorite distro? views on FOSS?

Before anyone says it... (0, Offtopic)

cervesaebraciator (2352888) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162689)

this is News for Nerds, inasmuch as nerds prefer not to be entirely ignorant of events around them that have world-wide significance.

Re:Before anyone says it... (1)

Laxori666 (748529) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162787)

Speak for yourself! I hardly know what's going on in the world. I get most of my news from people telling me about stuff and wondering how I haven't already heard about it.

Re:Before anyone says it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162835)

Nerds only care about anime, comic books and video games. Now you might be on to something if this was News for Geeks.

Re:Before anyone says it... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162877)

No, this is A Website for Advertisers, and one of the easiest ways to get a lot of page views is to post an article where all the angry atheists can come argue about who is the most bitter toward religion.

Re:Before anyone says it... (1)

Trepidity (597) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162893)

Real Vatican news-for-nerds would give us a more detailed account of the likely impacts on the internal workings of the Roman Curia, though!

News for nerds? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162695)

Huh?

Queue the Bigots (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162697)

Here they come, Anti-Catholics as only Slashdot can provide.

Re:Queue the Bigots (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162767)

Aww such a victim.

Re:Queue the Bigots (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162807)

ugh friggin' anti-catholics *continues to ignore rampant child sexual abuse*

Re:Queue the Bigots (0)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162873)

Um, I thought we were talking about the Catholic Church, not public school teachers.

Re:Queue the Bigots (1, Insightful)

Spottywot (1910658) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162817)

Here they come, Anti-Catholics as only Slashdot can provide.

Who would have thought that nerds might not unanimously believe that an old man voted in by some other old men might not be Gods representative on earth?

Re:Queue the Bigots (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162827)

Anti-Catholics as only Slashdot can provide.

Said by nobody who's ever been to /r/atheism.

Re:Queue the Bigots (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162841)

Here they come, Anti-Catholics as only Slashdot can provide.

That word, it does not mean what you think it means.

Catholics that no longer think highly of the papacy or the Vatican; are they "Bigots"? Does being bigoted often involve support for womens rights, gay rights and birth control in developing nations whilst condemning the Vatican's long history of covering up child abuse?

I suggest you find a new adjective!

Re:Queue the Bigots (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162849)

Cue the idiots who can't spell "Cue."

Vatical Wealth (1)

menot (2583945) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162699)

"Treasures? Nah, the Vatican was already empty when I arrived."

lent (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162701)

First time ive heard that the old pope gave up being the pope for lent. Wonder what the new guy has up his sleeve!

Re:lent (4, Funny)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162947)

KY jelly.

Don't Blame Me (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162703)

Don't blame me, I voted for Father Guido Sarducci. Screw the rest of the conclave.

why (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162705)

"News for nerds, stuff that matters"

Re:why (1)

hawguy (1600213) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162881)

"News for nerds, stuff that matters"

There is a technology tie-in, the new pope was spotted with the unreleased Galaxy S4, but it was hastily taken from his hands by an aide who was overheard saying "That was not to be taken outside the chapel without His approval".

Humility? (0, Flamebait)

TechyImmigrant (175943) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162711)

This - " He is well-known for his humility"

and this - "espouses church teachings on homosexuality, abortion and contraception."

are not compatible.

Re:Humility? (-1)

Laxori666 (748529) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162769)

He is humble about how much he hates "the gays".

Re:Humility? (5, Insightful)

operagost (62405) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162781)

I'm curious to hear YOUR definition of humility. Really, I'd like to know.

Re:Humility? (1)

TechyImmigrant (175943) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162975)

The usual one.

Re:Humility? (2, Insightful)

Archangel Michael (180766) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162797)

Please explain how they are not compatible?

Re:Humility? (5, Insightful)

ranton (36917) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162889)

Being humble, but also believing that your views on how other people should live their lives are so righteous that others shouldn't even be able to decide for themselves, are mutually exclusive.

Re:Humility? (2, Insightful)

TechyImmigrant (175943) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162955)

Presuming to know what's good for homosexuals, inadvertently pregnant women and people who want to have sex without getting pregnant and then forcing those views upon them through a large, well organized, well resourced church is not exhibiting humility. An approach imbued with humility would go alone the lines of - I think these things are true, but I might be wrong, so I'll exercise caution and be mindful of contrary opinions. Depending on context, 'pride', 'egotism' or 'arrogance' would serve as opposites to 'humility'. This chap appears to exhibit at least two of the three. I've never met him though, so I'm not sure about the first one.

Re:Humility? (0)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162999)

Indicating that someone's morals may not be the Church's morals and therefor may be wrong means you believe you know better than them. Humility is accepting the ignorant and the possibility that it may be YOU who is ignorant. Like when you give the cashier a $20, and they give you $5 back, and you're like, "Hey I gave you $20" and they're like "You only gave me $10" and you are like, "Oh, maybe you're right" and accept that. Because why would you be so arrogant as to believe you'd know better than the cashier, who handles money all day?

Re:Humility? (1, Troll)

roman_mir (125474) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162871)

Humility and Pope are not compatible already. The guy is a bloody Pope. Head of state of Vatican, declares what is moral and what is not. Infallible apparently. So clearly, if you open up a dictionary and go to the word 'humility', you'll see a link to Pope there.

Same as if you open a dictionary for the definition of 'Nobel Peace Prize Winner', you'll see Obama.

Re:Humility? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162931)

Sure it is - he's humble towards tradition and won't seek to make a name for himself by changing things. He's not some upstart with 20th century ideas or something.

Re:Humility? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162959)

why? he is a Third-World pope!! he has seen really poor people from Argentina and latin america. He probably will point to the Church do more charity work.

Re:Humility? (2)

schneidafunk (795759) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162963)

"Bergoglio often rode the bus to work, cooked his own meals and regularly visited the slums that ring Argentina's capital. He considers social outreach, rather than doctrinal battles, to be the essential business of the church.

He accused fellow church leaders of hypocrisy and forgetting that Jesus Christ bathed lepers and ate with prostitutes."

http://news.yahoo.com/francis-first-pope-americas-193844474.html [yahoo.com]

Haters Gonna Hate (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162715)

The same people who hated Benedict XVI and John Paul II will hate Pope Francis. How dare he believe in 2000 years worth of teachings about the sanctity of life and marriage being between a man and a woman when it's all so unfashionable?

Why did liberal atheist's care so much what the Pope thinks. No one is holding a gun to your head to force you to be a Catholic. Why do so many liberals feel threatened by any source of power outside of government?

Re:Haters Gonna Hate (1)

TechyImmigrant (175943) | about a year and a half ago | (#43163011)

I don't feel threatened. I'm just prattling around on Slashdot when I'm supposed to be working. If you want to see me write stuff I care about, start a cryptography discussion.

Does he run Linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162719)

This Pope had better be Open Source... the last one was all Microsofty

Big job ahead (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162725)

Hopefully this pope will be able to clean out the sickness from the Church that is pedophilia.

Slashtroll (0)

OakDragon (885217) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162733)

Please, you KNOW what this thread is for!

Re:Slashtroll (2)

Trepidity (597) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162909)

Page views?

viva Argentina and Bergolio!!! (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162741)

I'm Argentine and proud that the first non-european pope is from Argentina!!! congratulations Bergolio!!

Soy argentino y es un orgullo que el primer papa no europeo sea argentino!!! felicidades Bergolio!!

Re:viva Argentina and Bergolio!!! (5, Informative)

RLiegh (247921) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162777)

the first non-european pope

Whoa -slow down there, cowboy!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:African_popes [wikipedia.org]

Re:viva Argentina and Bergolio!!! (1, Informative)

cervesaebraciator (2352888) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162973)

In the ancient conception of the world, North Africa was sometimes reckoned as part of Europe (though Egypt was not). Culturally, during the lives of these popes, it was thoroughly European inasmuch as it was thoroughly Latinized. In one important sense, therefore, one could get away with saying that these popes were as European as any others. Of course, culture isn't the only important sense, but maybe this is how he got it in his head.

There were, in any case, at least five Syrian popes and Syria was reckoned part of Asia even by pre-moderns. Pope Francis remains only the most recent non-European pope.

Re:viva Argentina and Bergolio!!! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162885)

I'm from Argentina too and I'm not proud of the new pope because of who he is. Which is a shame, sharing the country of origin shouldn't be something to be ashamed of.

So what religion does he belong to? (5, Funny)

Marrow (195242) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162747)

linux, mac, vi, or emacs? :)

Re:So what religion does he belong to? (2)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162935)

He leads a major denomination, Bud. He's a Mac guy.

Re:So what religion does he belong to? (5, Funny)

j00r0m4nc3r (959816) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162983)

Eunuchs

name change (1)

bmorency (1221186) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162759)

Does anyone know why they don't go by their real name?

Re:name change (5, Interesting)

OakDragon (885217) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162823)

The tradition was started when a Pope named Mecurious (Mercury) was elected. He thought that a Christian Pope with a pagan name wasn't kosher (so to speak), so he took the name "John" (I think it was John).

Re:name change (0, Flamebait)

acariquara (753971) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162853)

It's easier to commit crimes against humanity [guardian.co.uk] when they are going to be pinned to a different name than yours.

Because of Jesus (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162917)

He changed Simon's name to Saint Peter, the very first Pope.

Re:name change (2)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162961)

Tax evasion, of course!

The hat, the hat, the hat is on FIRE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162763)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnUaUXZrYb0

Oh, Holy Shit!

He has substantial Vatican experience. (1)

david.emery (127135) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162771)

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Bergoglio [wikipedia.org]
"As cardinal, Bergoglio was appointed to several administrative positions in the Roman Curia. He served on the Congregation of Clergy, Congregation of Divine Worship and Sacraments, Congregation of Institutes of Consecrated Life and the Congregation of Societies of Apostolic Life. Bergoglio became a member of the Commission on Latin American and the Family Council."

Re:He has substantial Vatican experience. (1)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about a year and a half ago | (#43163025)

Why the hell are we letting little birds run a religion?

really, slashdot? (-1, Flamebait)

kimvette (919543) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162773)

Does Slashdot really need to carry this story? It has nothing to do with science, tech, gaming, or anything relevant.

It has everything to do with homophobic, misogynistic, pedophilic, and racist organization which puts on airs of setting out to do good but in reality protects child diddlers and extorting money from gullible followers while ignoring the bible which it purports to follow, nothing to do with science or tech. Why again is this on slashdot?

Re:really, slashdot? (2)

Extremus (1043274) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162899)

Well, I was amazed how fast his article in Wikipedia got updated. It didn't take more than a minute. Also, many big news websites in my country are down. That never happened before, as far as I know.

Re:really, slashdot? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162937)

It has everything to do with homophobic, misogynistic, pedophilic, and racist organization which puts on airs of setting out to do good but in reality protects child diddlers and extorting money from gullible followers

The church or Xbox Live?

Re:really, slashdot? (5, Insightful)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162993)

Because it has a substantial impact on the world.

Initially a chemist (4, Interesting)

schneidafunk (795759) | about a year and a half ago | (#43163005)

I find it interesting he was initially trained as a chemist. "Bergoglio taught literature, psychology, philosophy and theology before taking over as Buenos Aires archbishop in 1998."

http://news.yahoo.com/francis-first-pope-americas-193844474.html [yahoo.com]

It's part of a coded messge. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43163009)

Notice, the last 3 stories - 3 Trilogy Trinity - 1. "Users Flock To Firewall-Busting Thesis Project" 2. "Book Review: Hadoop Beginner's Guide" 3. "Point and Shoot 3D Modeling (Video)"

And then the story about the Pope.

See, for those in the Illuminati, they know now that by using Hadopp and firewell busting techniques, they can model 3D the entire plan that they have for World denomination with the Pope in charge.

It's quite apparent of you have the ultra-violet light app.

All hail to the new king of the pedophiles. (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162785)

Who I for one do not welcome.

Do we have to call him "Psycho"? (1)

chill (34294) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162791)

As Sergeant "Big Toe" Hulka Said, "Lighten up, Francis!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnpkDWbeJs [youtube.com]

Funtastic! (4, Insightful)

warrax_666 (144623) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162801)

Now will he renounce the current Catholic stance on condoms, so that perhaps we can save, oh, hundres of thousands or even millions of lives?

Will he: Disawow the insane and puerile dogma of original sin?

(Etc.)

Re:Funtastic! (5, Insightful)

kimvette (919543) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162977)

Will he: Disawow the insane and puerile dogma of original sin?

. . . and espouse the good news of salvation by grace which was promised by the one they claim to follow?

Of course not. That would end Catholic guilt, and eliminate the need for indulgences.

stupid pope (2)

kkonrad (319138) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162819)

it's just what the world needs. another stupid pope...

Bigoted (3, Informative)

Bonker (243350) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162821)

This guy has said that allowing gay couples to adopt children is a form of discrimination against the children.

  So a lot's going to change in Vatican City

Don't forget (0)

lesincompetent (2836253) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162845)

to stress his collusion with the Pinochet regime in Argentina.

No word yet on papal shitting location. (4, Funny)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162913)

The woods, however, are still the traditional choice.

Let me speak for everyone here: (1)

Nimey (114278) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162927)

"Lighten up, Francis."

Oh well. (5, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162933)

Better luck next time Richard Stallman.

So, basically nothing changes (3, Insightful)

Looker_Device (2857489) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162943)

espouses church teachings on homosexuality, abortion and contraception

Guess he'll continue the long, proud tradition of covering for child molesters too.

Sounds like some validation message (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43162951)

"New pope selected" "New account created"....

In related news ... (5, Funny)

PPH (736903) | about a year and a half ago | (#43162989)

... still only black smoke from the US Congressional budget committees.

The yo-yo man. (1)

Pahroza (24427) | about a year and a half ago | (#43163001)

Ah, the yang to Black Francis' yin has been revealed.

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