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Porn Troll Panics, Dismisses Pending Lawsuits

Soulskill posted about a year ago | from the abort!-abort! dept.

The Courts 106

JayRott writes "According to Ars, 'The embattled copyright trolling firm Prenda Law is seeking to contain the fallout from a looming identity theft scandal by voluntarily dismissing lawsuits filed by the shell company AF Holdings. A Minnesota man named Alan Cooper has charged that Prenda fraudulantly used his name as the CEO of AF Holdings, allegations that have attracted the attention of a California judge. Ken at the legal blog Popehat broke the news that Prenda attorney Paul Duffy has sought dismissal of at least four pending infringement cases involving the Prenda-linked shell company AF Holdings. All four dismissals occurred in the Northern District of Illinois.' I don't see how Prenda thinks this is going to make one lick of difference to an already angry Judge."

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Too late to run and hide now (4, Insightful)

jo_ham (604554) | about a year ago | (#43190235)

I think this is akin to getting caught stealing money from the tip jar and trying to make it look like you were just "making change".

Too late, you woke the dragon.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190281)

Time to sell off and relocate to panama.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (2)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about a year ago | (#43191605)

What does this story have to do with porn? Is porn troll a new fetish?

Porn troll porn (3, Insightful)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about a year ago | (#43191737)

Is porn troll a new fetish?

That would be "troll porn", probably a relatively obscure fetish.
This story is tending towards "porn troll porn", which might even become widely known.

Re:Porn troll porn (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about a year ago | (#43194849)

Well, there's always troll porn trolls.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (2)

davester666 (731373) | about a year ago | (#43191921)

Prenda [or some subsidiary/shell company/whatever] started this out by suing people for downloading various porn movies. It seems they took a LOT of liberties with the judicial process to convert IP addresses to names/addresses, somebody noticed and complained to the judge overseeing the case, and then Prenda decided to try to hide who did what/owns what from the judge.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (2)

Genda (560240) | about a year ago | (#43192067)

"Porn Troll"

1. A guy who's pulled an all night bender watching truly vile fetish porn... it's 10AM, he's sporting wild hair, bloodshot eyes, morning breath and crusty T-Shirt. Example of use: "Yeah, swung by John's house this morning to invite him to breakfast with the clan, but he'd been "Porn Trolling" and wasn't fit for human consumption."

2. A porn actor past their expiration date. Example of use: "I was watching ET last night and they caught a glimpse of Ron Jeremy... you seen that guy lately... OMG, what a Porn Troll."

Here you go, new entries for your Slang dictionary... you're welcome!

Re:Too late to run and hide now (1)

Richy_T (111409) | about a year ago | (#43194195)

I was just trying to rack my brain trying to remember which part of the movie with the little guy with the glowing finger that was in.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (0)

Corwyn_123 (828115) | about a year ago | (#43190419)

trollbait

Re:Too late to run and hide now (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43192375)

Jewbait.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (5, Interesting)

tqk (413719) | about a year ago | (#43190461)

I've been watching this story unfold at Techdirt.com. It's the most farcical slow motion train wreck I've seen in quite a while. It speaks volumes about USA's litigious culture, the Imaginary Property regime, and the miniscule amount of value added to an individual through managing to graduate from law school and be accepted to practice law. To think that these guys spent tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars for their educations, and this is what the idiots end up doing with them. Astonishing.

Kudos to the judge. I've seen a few posts from guys wishing they could have a womb implanted so they could have his children.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (5, Insightful)

Spy Handler (822350) | about a year ago | (#43190491)

Lawyers are a protected privileged class in the USA. Everyone from the President to members of Congress to Supreme Court justices are all lawyers. If you were to shoot all lawyers, you would no longer have a United States.

(what you'd have is a nice place to live)

Re:Too late to run and hide now (5, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#43190605)

Lawyers are a protected privileged class in the USA. Everyone from the President to members of Congress to Supreme Court justices are all lawyers.

Well, kinda. They're not practicing lawyers. They've evolved into LAWYER's next form, POLITICIAN. As lawyers they learn how the law can be twisted and screwed into new shapes to benefit the wealthy, and to win at any cost and on any viable basis. As politicians, they are wealthy, and in a position to make laws.

FTFY (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43191087)

Well, kinda. They're not practicing lawyers. They've devolved into LAWYER's next form, POLITICIAN. As lawyers they learn how the law can be twisted and screwed into new shapes to benefit the wealthy, and to win at any cost and on any viable basis. As politicians, they are wealthy, and in a position to make laws.

Re:FTFY (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#43191511)

They've devolved into LAWYER's next form, POLITICIAN.

Well, to totally shit on the evolution metaphor, think LARVAL for LAWYER.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (3, Insightful)

canadian_right (410687) | about a year ago | (#43191927)

It is all too easy to slam lawyers, but a lawyer is your best friend when you need one.

You should be slamming the ignorant electorate that keeps electing these politicians that only care about getting elected, getting rich, and pleasing the rich.

You can't waste a vote. A the only wasted vote is the one that wasn't exercised.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (4, Insightful)

Genda (560240) | about a year ago | (#43192109)

Until you realize the only reason you need a lawyer, is because of other lawyers...

Re:Too late to run and hide now (1)

shentino (1139071) | about a year ago | (#43192469)

Lawyers are collectively running a protection racket.

They make stupid laws that appeal to mankind's base instincts to fuck each other over, and then turn around and offer us their services as warriors in the same minefield they themselves lay down.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (4, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#43193067)

It is all too easy to slam lawyers, but a lawyer is your best friend when you need one.

Wrong. A lawyer is a necessary evil when I need one, and I only need one because of the efforts and actions of other lawyers. Even a good lawyer is part of a broken system designed to maintain the status quo, and therefore part of the problem even when they try to be part of the solution.

I'll slam BOTH, thank-you.... (1)

King_TJ (85913) | about a year ago | (#43193105)

As one of my buddies used to say, a hired lawyer is a lot like an attack dog. You point it in the right direction and let it go do its thing. Your lawyer is NOT your friend, and has no qualms about indiscriminately attacking whoever is pointed at by the person paying the bill.

Truthfully, most situations people find themselves in where they really need a lawyer are situations created by the system itself. There really SHOULD be no reason a sane, somewhat intelligent individual couldn't just represent him/herself in a courtroom and be able to do a perfectly good job. Instead, we have a system designed by lawyers, for lawyers, where the procedural details of a trial, alone, are enough to scare many people off from attempting self-representation. That's not to even begin to mention the reality of things, where the VAST majority of cases get settled before a trial even begins, simply because the lawyers on both sides actually know each other on at least the level of "co-workers" and simply sit down to dinner and/or drinks, and hash out what they're going to tell their clients and how they'll actually settle things so both can pretend they "fought long and hard, and got the best possible outcome".

Re:I'll slam BOTH, thank-you.... (4, Insightful)

Miseph (979059) | about a year ago | (#43193657)

I'm sorry you and your buddy have only met truly reprehensible lawyers. I know several who are good, honest, thoughtful people who genuinely try to make the world around them a better place. Granted, I've also met a hunch who are slimeballs I would just as soon push in front of a bus, but I've met a lot of people who are slimeballs that I would just as soon push in front of a bus who aren't lawyers, so it doesn't seem fair to say lawyers are necessarily any worse than the rest of humanity.

If anything, I've met a greater percentage of sales and corporate management types who would contribute more to the benefit of mankind by dying messily than I have lawyers, but YMMV.

Re:I'll slam BOTH, thank-you.... (4, Interesting)

loneDreamer (1502073) | about a year ago | (#43194731)

In particular, I have a friend who IS a good, honest, thoughtful lawyer, and HIS opinion after working in the field is that lawyers, in general, should be pushed in front of a bus. My astonished question was: Hey man, that includes you, you know. His answer was: Nevertheless, it would be for the common good.

Re:I'll slam BOTH, thank-you.... (1)

sincewhen (640526) | about a year ago | (#43195013)

So at least some of them could be rehabilitated...

Re:I'll slam BOTH, thank-you.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43195091)

As one of my buddies used to say, a hired lawyer is a lot like an attack dog.

Hmm... one of my buddies used to fist my asshole while he sucked my cock. My friends are better than yours, I guess.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (1)

tqk (413719) | about a year ago | (#43194095)

You should be slamming the ignorant electorate that keeps electing these politicians that only care about getting elected, getting rich, and pleasing the rich.

Doesn't that describe all of them? Besides, they're two sides of the same coin. One side gets elected and starts pushing some pet program, loses power letting the other guys in, and they start pushing the same program. You bet that's a wasted vote. The game's rigged.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (3, Funny)

Genda (560240) | about a year ago | (#43192097)

Well, kinda. They're not practicing lawyers. They've evolved into LAWYER's next form, POLITICIAN...

You describe them as though they're some kind of horrible parasite... good job!

Re:Too late to run and hide now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43194633)

Lawyers and doctors make up nearly all politicians in the history of Australian politics. And, just by chance, guess whose 2 businesses cannot be interfered with by a divorce settlement?

Not a protected class (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190703)

It is perfectly legal to include in your property management procedures that you do not rent to people who have an incomone under 3 times the rent, credit scores below a certain number, or lawyers. Our lawyer finds it fucking hilarious, and actually got a response from the fair housing council parasites when he querried them if this was legally acceptable.

Re:Not a protected class (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190927)

Considering how often lawyers sue landlords and their neighbors, I don't see the problem.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (1)

only_human (761334) | about a year ago | (#43191363)

Layers are carnivorous predators that are occasionally promoted to an alpha role (politician). Every few years these politicians engage in a no-holds-barred battle for pack dominance.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (1)

zAPPzAPP (1207370) | about a year ago | (#43192011)

Isn't the judge, who's now apparently target of homoerotic advances due to being so awesome, an absolvent of the same line of education you seem to despise so much?

Re:Too late to run and hide now (1)

tqk (413719) | about a year ago | (#43192157)

Isn't the judge, who's now apparently target of homoerotic advances due to being so awesome, an absolvent of the same line of education you seem to despise so much?

What's that got to do with it? Some go to school to learn, many more go to get the certificate. The latter can often look like amnesiacs wrt their education history.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (1)

fgouget (925644) | about a year ago | (#43192199)

It speaks volumes about USA's litigious culture, the Imaginary Property regime, and the miniscule amount of value added to an individual through managing to graduate from law school and be accepted to practice law.

I've been struck by another thing while following this. In France people keep complaining that you have to file too much paperwork to create a company and how in the US you can do it all in half an hour. But it feels like that's exactly what led to making it so easy to falsify who's the head of AF Holdings. So this simplicity does seem to have drawbacks. Can a company really be held accountable if you don't know who's at its head?

Re:Too late to run and hide now (1)

homey of my owney (975234) | about a year ago | (#43190483)

Reading the headline does not give you any information at all.
Some lawsuits were dropped. And only because they probably used Alan Cooper's name (illegally).

Re:Too late to run and hide now (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190729)

Reading the headline does not give you any information at all.

Some lawsuits were dropped. And only because they probably used Alan Cooper's name (illegally).

Yes. Some lawsuits were dropped ...

Correct if I'm wrong, but I thought plaintiffs dropped cases, and only judges could dismiss them (contrary to the headline.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (1)

ChronoFish (948067) | about a year ago | (#43191101)

From the docket:

" Plaintiff voluntarily dismisses, with out prejudice, all claims brought in this action"

http://www.popehat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/MartinezVoluntaryDismissal.pdf

-CF

Re:Too late to run and hide now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43191815)

Without prejudice? That's bullshit. I wonder if there's a way to force the case to court or get it dismissed with prejudice... well, I figure whoever got their cases dropped are probably just happy that it's over for now.

Re:Too late to run and hide now (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year ago | (#43190915)

Is it too late? It seems to me that this is pretty middle of the road for legal insanity. It would make rational sense that you couldn't just dismiss the case and avoid being punished, but it also seems rational that legal trolls wouldn't be allowed to do what they do in the first place. Logic has no place in courtrooms from what I can tell. What is the judge going to do? Are the lawyers going to get disbarred?

Re:Too late to run and hide now (-1, Offtopic)

fipifuro (2867541) | about a year ago | (#43193147)

http://www.cloud65.com/ [cloud65.com] upto I looked at the bank draft which said $5356, I have faith that my mother in law could truley earning money in there spare time on there computar.. there moms best frend has been doing this for only 9 months and by now cleared the debts on their condo and got a great Audi Quattro. we looked here,

They're not trying to please the judge (3, Insightful)

rsilvergun (571051) | about a year ago | (#43190241)

they're trying to make sure they don't piss off another one. One their dirty laundry got out everyone's going to scrutinize their every move. Plus they're going to need to focus their resources on survival right now.

Re:They're not trying to please the judge (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190301)

Not sure if survival is what they are trying to do, more like mitigating the damage and hoping there is something left afterwards.

Re:They're not trying to please the judge (2)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | about a year ago | (#43190389)

Not sure if survival is what they are trying to do, more like mitigating the damage and hoping there is something left afterwards.

Which is a fancy way of saying survival, in this context.

Too, they're going to have a hard time avoiding criminal charges if the allegations have merit.

The TRUTH about Slashdot! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190251)

Let us play a thought game, for a moment.

Imagine a giant penis flying towards your mouth, and there's nothing you can do about it. And you're like "Oh man, I'm gonna have to suck this thing", and you brace yourself to suck this giant penis. But then, at the last moment, it changes trajectory and hits you in the eye. You think to yourself "Well, at least I got that out of the way", but then the giant penis rears back and stabs your eye again, and again, and again. Eventually, this giant penis is penetrating your gray matter, and you begin to lose control of your motor skills. That's when the giant penis slaps you across the cheek, causing you to fall out of your chair. Unable to move and at your most vulnerable, the giant penis finally lodges itself in your anus, where it rests uncomfortably for 4, maybe 5 hours.

That's what using Slashdot is like.

Re:The TRUTH about Slashdot! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43191017)

If you think a penis that can penetrate an eye socket is giant, you must have a really small penis.

Re:The TRUTH about Slashdot! (1)

GeorgeS (11440) | about a year ago | (#43196611)

And yet you return again to experience that same feeling over and over

If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (-1, Offtopic)

Whatsmynickname (557867) | about a year ago | (#43190277)

...the phrase "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters." is not there anymore. And you have this stupid article up front which has absolutely nothing to do with nerds. Coincidence?

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (5, Insightful)

wbr1 (2538558) | about a year ago | (#43190293)

Patent trolling is of interest to many a nerd. Don't like it, don't read the article. I rarely read a bitcoin article. If you really, really hate it you can go over to Reddit.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (1, Flamebait)

firex726 (1188453) | about a year ago | (#43190349)

Even then you hear the same complaints at Reddit as well.
Is it really that hard to just ignore an article?

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190433)

Funny, every time I think, "let me check out reddit", and actually go to the site I see their site design and just cringe. It is so damn ugly. I usually just leave again right away without clicking into any articles. The few times I have looked at them, they were all puerile.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (1)

lordofthechia (598872) | about a year ago | (#43194579)

Well you have to. The site renderer works for the construct program. But there's way too much information to properly render Reddit. You get used to it. I don't even see the ugly site design. All I see is cat pictures, Ron Paul posts, tech articles...

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190955)

This isn't a story about patent trolling you stupid gay faggot fucktard. Get the fuck off this site you sorry waste of a human being. Ugly fucking piece of shit.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43191433)

Sure, go on [reddit.com] over to [techdirt.com] Reddit. You'll be totally safe [arstechnica.com] from this story [torrentfreak.com] over there.

(For the record, all of those links are on Reddit right now. I thought /. was bad at dupes, all of those are 100+, 4 of them are from the last 2 weeks, 3 from the last week....)

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (1)

fgouget (925644) | about a year ago | (#43192135)

Patent trolling is of interest to many a nerd.

They're not patent trolls but copyright trolls. Still trolls though...

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (3, Insightful)

Fuzzums (250400) | about a year ago | (#43190329)

If all nerds stay in their basements, then you're right, but...
There is a world out there and patent trolls influence the great work we nerds do.
So if one is going down, we celebrate and drink a root beer.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (2)

gnasher719 (869701) | about a year ago | (#43190439)

If all nerds stay in their basements, then you're right, but...
There is a world out there and patent trolls influence the great work we nerds do.
So if one is going down, we celebrate and drink a root beer.

You should return your geek credentials. Prenda is not a patent troll. Read about what they were doing and notice there are no patents involved whatsoever.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (1)

Fuzzums (250400) | about a year ago | (#43190451)

*Hands over geek creds*
But I keep the root beer!

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190769)

Isn't root beer dude. Some of us needed to use the bathroom, but you were in there with the door locked. We used the empty root beer bottles instead.

Enjoy, man!

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (1)

SchMoops (2019810) | about a year ago | (#43191063)

Good luck drinking that root beer when you're not in the sudoers file.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (5, Funny)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | about a year ago | (#43190395)

If you think porn has nothing to do with nerds, I'm afraid you're sadly mistaken.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190475)

Maybe young nerds, after you've done all the porn on the internet you can move on to getting things done.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (4, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year ago | (#43190719)

If you've *done* all the porn on the Internet, you'll be too sore to get anything else done.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43191027)

after you've done all the porn on the internet

Impossible. Porn is added to the internet faster than you can jack off to it.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43191251)

Amateur

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43192703)

Impossible. Porn is added to the internet faster than you can jack off to it.

Amateur

Nothing that can't be fixed by a perl or python script.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about a year ago | (#43191533)

Maybe young nerds, after you've done all the porn on the internet you can move on to getting things done.

I don't think that's physically possible.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about a year ago | (#43191521)

No kidding. It's not for nothing that the last aisle at Fry's (electronics store in the US) before checkout is the porn rack.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (1)

dgatwood (11270) | about a year ago | (#43192211)

What Fry's do you go to? The last aisle at my Fry's is the random crap aisle.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (1)

Richy_T (111409) | about a year ago | (#43194237)

Like he said...

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (3, Insightful)

Missing.Matter (1845576) | about a year ago | (#43191011)

If you think this has nothing to do with nerds, you're note paying attention.

The very heart of these lawsuits is the bittorrent protocol, IP address tracking, and wireless networks. These lawsuits are a dirty disgusting consequence of the technology *we* created. And the reason nerds should be more interested in these lawsuits than others is because we fully understand how absolutely absurd it is to say just because you saw an IP address on a tracker doesn't mean the subscriber to the account that was assigned that address is an infringer.

So while the Prenda lawsuits are not failing on the technical lack of merits of their absurd claims, it is nice to see this law firm imploding nonetheless.

Re:If you notice on the front page of ""slashdot"" (4, Interesting)

mwvdlee (775178) | about a year ago | (#43191411)

Sadly, copyright and patent law has a LOT to do with nerds. Especially those of us who develop software either for a living or as a hobby.

I can't include any code in a commercial project without first checking whether the license allows my intended use and what I need to do in order to comply. Similarly I don't release any significant amount of code to the public without first attaching an appropriate license to it (or atleast explicitely releasing to the public domain).

If I don't, some asshole (like the one in TFA) that has never produced any net positive to society will try to turn my efforts into a net negative. Some minimal understanding of copyright and patent law should be a minimal requirement for any software developer.

It's the price you have to pay for allowing border-line sociopaths to walk around freely.

It will make a difference ... a bad difference (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190303)

Given what's happened so far, this will probably make the judge MORE angry than he already is, and he will still expect the lawyers in question to show up on April 2nd and explain their actions so far even if they don't have a single other case pending in the country. Also, if they're madly filling requests for dismissals in other jurisdictions, it's going to be awfully difficult to offer the usual suite of lame excuses for not complying with the order (i.e. if you had the time to file these other requests for dismissal, then you certainly had the time to respond to a judge's order).

I think the only options left for these guys are either to rat each other out first and hope for leniency (standard prisoner's dilemma), flee the country, or pick a new career. And some of those aren't mutually-exclusive options.

Re:It will make a difference ... a bad difference (4, Insightful)

achbed (97139) | about a year ago | (#43191299)

From what I've read, they are trying to minimize the possible damage. The biggest change that these dismissals make is from an ONGOING fraud on the court, to a PAST defraud on the court. Using that rationality, however, you can then conclude that the only reason to drop the case(s) is that the allegations are true. If they were false, they'd simply fight the accusation and allow the other cases to proceed (probably continued pending outcome of the allegations).

I do note however that most (not all) the relevant cases were dropped without prejudice, meaning that if they survive, they plan on re-filing the cases. I seriously wonder if the top people involved are busy buying up land in a non-extradition country. The judge might include flight risk in his next order, and get their passports revoked.

Re:It will make a difference ... a bad difference (3, Interesting)

shentino (1139071) | about a year ago | (#43192631)

Why not just flat out arrest them for contempt of court?

If this is getting into criminal territory I expect to hear some handcuffs clicking shut.

Re:It will make a difference ... a bad difference (1)

c (8461) | about a year ago | (#43192201)

Given what's happened so far, this will probably make the judge MORE angry than he already is

At this point, they may be stuck with the choice between getting one judge more pissed at them or getting more judges pissed at them. Taking their lumps from one pissed of judge in one courtroom in one jurisdiction is probably one of the smarter decisions they've made so far.

Re:It will make a difference ... a bad difference (3, Interesting)

PRMan (959735) | about a year ago | (#43192975)

It seems like Duffy is dropping all the cases with or without their approval. I think the prisoner's dilemma has already begun.

Re:It will make a difference ... a bad difference (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43196037)

Judges are generally wise to not show they are angered by something or someone. It makes it all too easy to counter that their judgements/actions are ill-considered and worth appealing. IMO, Judge Wright is showing admirable restraint in dealing with the casually dismissive Prenda lawyers. That Prenda are now in a flat spin in respect of cases they had previously opened is unlikely to change the eventual outcome by any significant margin.

Rule 34... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190325)

We really should be careful for what we wish for
And there it is
www.porntroll.com

Reallocating budget to defense (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190347)

They're just reallocating their budget to cover defending themselves rather than trying to squeeze money out of others.

Now they are screwed. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190371)

Making a fake company using the identity of others are pretty damn illegal, if I remember correct.

Goodbye Prenda, you'll never be missed. Except for a few laughs on here at your expense, that is.

mod 0+p (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190407)

rules are ThiAs rivalry. While

Who are the owners and operators of Prenda Law? (3, Interesting)

Spy Handler (822350) | about a year ago | (#43190509)

Let's have some names. And addresses and phone numbers. Then maybe some elite Anonymous operators can obtain their credit card numbers and order a bunch of goatse porn and have it delivered to their homes.

Re:Who are the owners and operators of Prenda Law? (1)

cdrudge (68377) | about a year ago | (#43190991)

So far they are doing enough on their own to seriously screw with their livelihood. They don't need any Anonymous help in shooting themselves in the foot and a reason for them to say they are a victim.

Re:Who are the owners and operators of Prenda Law? (4, Insightful)

ais523 (1172701) | about a year ago | (#43191781)

Be careful. Part of the reason that this mess came about in the first place was that they'd given false names/addresses when filing a court case. And in general, the confusion is that nobody's sure who's meant to be in charge, if anyone. The judge has spent much of the court case so far trying to work it out; and is probably in a better position to enforce a punishment too.

Techdirt's take on the dismissals: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43190945)

"Paul Duffy is very likely doing the right thing legally and ethically by dismissing the cases and informing courts of the allegations against Prenda Law. In doing so he is reducing the risk that he will be accused of continuing any alleged fraud on the court after the March 11, 2013 hearing. "

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130315/16453322344/prenda-law-tries-to-close-barn-door-after-horse-has-lawyered-up.shtml

Stopping Prenda Law is not enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43191095)

All the lawyers associated with this law practice (and there appear to be several) need to have their knuckles rapped and be put on notice that a recurrence will be taken into account for disbarment or whichever loss of professional accreditation is appropriate here.

Unless it impacts the lawyers directly, Prenda Law going down will be no more than a hiccup for those sociopathic leeches. A fortnight after paying Prenda's fines and costs they'll pop up in a new law practice to continue their crapping over society.

Re:Stopping Prenda Law is not enough (3, Insightful)

achbed (97139) | about a year ago | (#43191391)

I would seriously hope that "sanctions" includes:
(a) permanent disbarment in ALL states for the primary lawyers (and suspensions for the rest of the plaintiff lawyers),
(b) disgorgement of all settlement income from all entities involved as it was obtained by the fraud,
(c) reversal of all assignments of copyright as they were clearly made to further the fraud,
(d) complete closure of all business entities involved after reassignment of copyright and disgorgement of income, and
(e) the top people involved should be unable to open any more businesses of any kind ever,
(f) referral to state attorneys general and DOJ prosecutors to bring criminal charges.

Not hoping for jail time, but a message needs to be sent to these law-twisting nasties and all their ilk that this is not acceptable and will be punished. You don't often hear of lawyers being punished, simply because they're "in the club". The law community needs to seriously start thinking about an internal purge of these types of lawyers.

Re:Stopping Prenda Law is not enough (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about a year ago | (#43191541)

> The law community needs to seriously start thinking about an internal purge of these types of lawyers.

Yes. Lawyers have a bad enough reputation as it is; these guys are just making it worse. The legal system needs to realize that and take action.

Re:Stopping Prenda Law is not enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43199239)

What about compensation for all the time, heartache, and headaches the victims of this fraud experienced, to be paid by the perpetrators?

That goes considerably beyond just returning the actual settlement amounts.

If we allow lawyers to cause other people pain without compensation, that just increases the demand for the services of the legal profession (to protect people from this sort of thing).

It's about jurisdiction (1)

TwineLogic (1679802) | about a year ago | (#43191443)

All four dismissals occurred in the Northern District of Illinois.' I don't see how Prenda thinks this is going to make one lick of difference to an already angry Judge."

Prenda believes the California judge does not have the power to compel out-of-state Prenda "employees" to appear. I would bet a dollar that one of the Prenda guilty parties lives either in Illinois, or the 7th Circuit federal jurisdiction. If they don't dismiss cases in jurisdictions where they live, and things unfold as they have in California, they could face arrest.

Re:It's about jurisdiction (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43191791)

Which is moronic. The very act of filing in a California court means that they waive any argument that Court does not have jurisdiction or power over them. So, unless I'm missing something, they definitely need to go back to Civil Procedure 101.

Re:It's about jurisdiction (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43192723)

One of the lawyers is even a member of the California bar.

Amusing capacha: absentia.

Re:It's about jurisdiction (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43193871)

Which is moronic. The very act of filing in a California court means that they waive any argument that Court does not have jurisdiction or power over them. So, unless I'm missing something, they definitely need to go back to Civil Procedure 101.

Speak for yourself donkey. The mere act of filing a case does not necessarily give the court personal jurisdiction over a person.

Re:It's about jurisdiction (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43198797)

Yes it does. The plaintiff personally avails themselves to the power of the court. Whether you adopt an international shoe approach or the much more accepted consent approach, by filing a case, the court gets jurisdiction over that plaintiff when it comes to that particular controversy. Otherwise, you could file a case and not be bound if you lose.

Going past the intent of the law (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43191731)

Lawyers often press to the edge of the law, occasionally skirting the edges (with admonishments by judges), getting away with whatever they can. Prenda law didn't skirt the edges of the law, they clearly operated as trolls outside the law. They used the threat of civil litigation in a blackmail scheme against thousands of people. Sadly they are not alone. They made a judge angry for doing what they did, then further annoyed the judge by trying to 'phone it in' by teleconferencing and videoconferencing with the judge and their lawyers instead of actually appearing before the judge in court (they can't give sworn testimony, and doing thing like saying 'hold on judge, I've got another call coming in' probably doesn't help). The judge was already mad enough so that the lawyers these lawyers had also had lawyers (lawyers cubed), because things were dicey enough that people were sure to be disbarred. The short version: they disrespected the law, and the judge. Soon they will be trying to practice law without a license.

Named him CEO, gotta' let him BE CEO... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43192335)

I'd love to see Alan Cooper walk into the offices with some lawyers asking where his office is, and asserting his position as named CEO. First thing would be to freeze all accounts, fire everybody, and hand over every piece of paper and computer to the judge.

Re:Named him CEO, gotta' let him BE CEO... (1)

RazorSharp (1418697) | about a year ago | (#43195055)

I'd love to see Alan Cooper walk into the offices with some lawyers asking where his office is, and asserting his position as named CEO.

First thing would be to freeze all accounts, fire everybody, and hand over every piece of paper and computer to the judge.

It's a shell company. There probably is no office. It's probably just a P.O. Box.

Lets see, what do I think of this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43192341)

...

AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHA SNORT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA.

Pfffffffffffft HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Prenda is about to get its ass handed back to it, and set a presidence for the whole troll industry. GGNOREKTHX!

Dishonest...? (1)

terraplane (898379) | about a year ago | (#43192795)

I guess it's OK to steal other peoples' work now. But anyone trying to stop that? Bad.

subject (1)

Legion303 (97901) | about a year ago | (#43195275)

Corporations are "people" now, right? This one should get the death penalty.

No gas chamber, though. Hang from the neck until dead.

United States District Judge Otis D. Wright II (3, Interesting)

Required Snark (1702878) | about a year ago | (#43195427)

The federal judge hearing the case is a real piece of work. He is a former US Marine and LAPD police officer. He was appointed to the bench by first by Schwarzenegger and then by George W. Bush.

Here is a site where people can anonymously comment on their experiences in his court room. He gets a score of 2.5 out of 10. He has a few high ratings, and lots of one and two ratings: http://www.therobingroom.com/Judge.aspx?ID=1555 [therobingroom.com]

This is a rather articulate comment from the site:

Judge Wright, a jurist largely devoid of judicial, or "people" skills, is an equal opportunity abuser. Routinely arrogant and abrasive, he pontificates down at the lawyers unfortunate enough to have to appear before him. He rules with an iron fist, and a tin-foil mind. He has demonstrated beyond doubt that that he has a short fuse, a hair-trigger, and poor marksmanship (because he rarely manages to hit the right target) with his slings and arrows. What he does hit, however, he hits hard and hits mercilessly! He appears to delight in making lawyers come in for motion "hearings," which are nothing more than a 45 second diatribe by a judge who clearly has not read the papers or done his homework. If Charles Dickens were still alive and writing today, he would be hard-pressed not to create a judge-character based upon this bench-warmer. I also have no doubt that his % of cases reaching trial is very low, caused by parties who have either precipitously been thrown out of Court during motion practice, or by parties settling in a last-ditch effort to avoid the caprice, uncertainties, vagaries, and whims which a trial with Otis presiding portends. There should be a flashing red neon sign above his Courtroom door that warns lawyers, in Dantean terms: "All hope abandon ye who enter here."

I can't imagine a more appropriate court for Prenda Law. It will be a collision between out of control bottom of the barrel scum sucking lawyers and a judge who's legal background is inadequate and has a tendency to use the bench to crush anyone who appears before him. It's literally karma in action, with Biblical style thunderclaps and lightning. What could possibly go wrong?

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