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Samsung Also Making a Smartwatch

Soulskill posted about a year and a half ago | from the racing-to-wearable-computers dept.

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New submitter evansspann sends word that Samsung will be making a smartwatch. Rumors have been swirling for a few months that Apple is working on a 'watch-like' device, but Samsung's CEO was willing to confirm that his company is working on such a product. "We've been preparing the watch product for so long. We are working very hard to get ready for it. We are preparing products for the future, and the watch is definitely one of them." The companies are now likely racing to be the first to market. Production of such a device will likely be easier for Samsung, since it can produce its own screens and chips. It's also likely to work well with the popular Galaxy Phone lines. However, it will have a tougher time with app distribution than Apple, since it doesn't control Google Play the way Apple controls the App Store. "Apple's critics like to say the company's ideas are obvious, but as some pundits have noted, those very ideas once seemed unimaginable. The smartwatch will be a great test for that theory. It'll be interesting to see if Samsung can strike first in a nascent category and still rival Apple's work."

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Another easy to misread title (4, Funny)

neminem (561346) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228111)

I have a feeling this is going to be downvoted because it happens to be the first post and people will think I'm just posting for that reason, but I totally misread this title as "Samsung also making a sandwich". Maybe someone sexist jerk told them to get in the kitchen, and they took it to heart?

Re:Another easy to misread title (4, Funny)

swanzilla (1458281) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228131)

sudo make me a smartwatch

Re:Another easy to misread title (1)

binarylarry (1338699) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228469)

make: *** No rule to make target `me'. Stop.

Re:Another easy to misread title (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228557)

proper response to "make me a sandwich"... "make me"

"poof you are a sandwich" is also acceptable

Re:Another easy to misread title (1)

sribe (304414) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228487)

sudo make me a smartwatch

Not quite...

su apple -c 'make me a smartwatch'

Re:Another easy to misread title (1)

AaronLS (1804210) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228177)

I read the same thing, except I thought it was some hybrid word of "Smart sandwich".

Re:Another easy to misread title (2)

Ashbory (781835) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228193)

I read it as sandwich too. But then again, I would rather have a sandwich than a smartwatch.

Re:Another easy to misread title (1)

AaronLS (1804210) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228261)

Maybe that's why we read it that way.

Re:Another easy to misread title (1)

mooingyak (720677) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228379)

You are far from alone. Doesn't help that I'm hungry right now.

Re:Another easy to misread title (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228395)

I read the same thing and I have no clue why. One of these strange sentence illusions.

Re:Another easy to misread title (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228505)

Honestly, I think I would prefer the cheaper samsung sandwich over the aluminum unibody iWich from Apple.

Re:Another easy to misread title (1)

Reverand Dave (1959652) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228869)

Yeah, you can't even take the cheese off of the iWich without voiding the warranty and a special tool!

Re:Another easy to misread title (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228965)

I have a feeling this is going to be downvoted because it happens to be the first post and people will think I'm just posting for that reason, but I totally misread this title as "Samsung also making a sandwich". Maybe someone sexist jerk told them to get in the kitchen, and they took it to heart?

Nah if you get down voted it should be because you posted some nonsense that has NOTHING to do with the story, no insight, not even a cheap throw away opinion. Just a post that does nothing but puts people posts that actually have to do with the topic and had someone who put real thought into it further into a sea of useless posts.

It will be an unpopular product (3, Funny)

oztiks (921504) | about a year and a half ago | (#43230139)

As a wise man once said ...

Charlie: Okay, the reason why men say hot girl at, like, 12 o'clock or 3 o'clock, is to specify a location using the clock face as a kind of a map.
Jake: What if you have a digital watch?
Charlie: First of all, you're not gonna meet any women if you wear a digital watch. Second of all, it doesn't matter; the clock face is imaginary.
Jake: Then how do you know what time you saw the girl?
Charlie: Oh, my God!

I for one... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228121)

Can't wait to see all old ideas re-patented by adding the language "on a watch".

Re:I for one... (1)

AaronLS (1804210) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228209)

This. Once got strong armed by a lawyer/volunteer policer office for licensing fees, because he had a patent for putting software on a laptop in a police car. We didn't budge and he never took us to court, given that we knew lots of people that had been doing that prior to his patent. He'd rather keep his billy club to threaten someone else with, then have it invalidated.

Re:I for one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229207)

Prior art:

  All Categories >"watch phone" 14,158 Results - http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=watch+phone&catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20130320145905 [aliexpress.com]

Re:I for one... (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229595)

Prior art:

  All Categories >"watch phone" 14,158 Results - http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=watch+phone&catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20130320145905 [aliexpress.com]

Yeah, but suppose I want a smart watch that keeps the display oriented so I can read it, now matter which direction my arm is pointing, that's the stuff of patents.

Re:I for one... (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229575)

Can't wait to see all old ideas re-patented by adding the language "on a watch".

Wondering if anyone hast been in contact with the Pebble crew. I wouldn't be surprised if they had some patents lined up already.

"Nascent"? (1)

Daetrin (576516) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228127)

"Smart watches" have been around in one form or another for decades. [wikipedia.org]

I'm sure both the Samsung and Apple versions will be impressive new steps in the technology, but let's not pretend there's anything fundamentally new about the idea.

Re:"Nascent"? (3, Interesting)

AaronLS (1804210) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228225)

Reminds me of a watch a friend had before the days of bluetooth/wifi. To sync your calendar, you held it up to a computer that flashed barcodes on screen which the watch read. Not sure how much practical use he got out of the thing, but was definitely cool to watch.

Re:"Nascent"? (0)

AaronLS (1804210) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228241)

Get it, cool to "watch". That wasn't intended but I will claim it.

Re:"Nascent"? (4, Interesting)

wolrahnaes (632574) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228709)

I had one of those too, the Timex DataLink series. It depended on the CRT flickering to perform a one-way sync of basic PIM data. This of course didn't work on LCDs or systems like NT where the level of control over the display Timex needed was unavailable, so they also had a serial-based gizmo that flashed a LED to do the same job.

I got mine in 1998 or so and used it as a watch until the plastic body of the watch fell apart some time in 2004. The PIM function hadn't been usable to me for a few years as I'd switched to NT in XP form when it came out, but I'd had a Palm m100 since 2001 so that wasn't really a big deal.

I'd like a modern take on the smart watch, even after getting the Palm I liked having a basic info set available wherever I went. A good "home screen" could put a lot of useful information at a glance without needing to pull your device out of your pocket. Calendar, incoming messages, caller ID, etc. I could see being very useful. Give it an e-paper display for massive battery life and I'm interested.

Re:"Nascent"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229057)

Shazam. [getpebble.com]

Re:"Nascent"? (1)

webmistressrachel (903577) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229249)

Great concept, I'm waiting for a thinner model with an edge-to-edge display of ANY res. I only ever wore one watch, a rare digital Casio (no, it's not an oxymoron, you find me something that looks like the W-50U on today's market).

My messed-up parents forced me to give this watch back to the boy who gave it to me years ago, and I've searched (with cash at the readies) for something similar, even the same one, ever since. Still no watch. Seriously, if I'd seen it on somebody's wrist, I'd have bought it from them for some ridiculous inflated price.

Re:"Nascent"? (1)

webmistressrachel (903577) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229267)

W-50U [drmik.com] . Mine was black plastic :(

Re:"Nascent"? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228283)

yeah soon enough samsung will introduce the new idea of a watch with a butchered down android..

oh shit sony and motorola already did it.. last fucking year!

Re:"Nascent"? (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228297)

I wish more people understood that we are at the point where any decently educated person can build and design new products that appear to be wildly innovative to the lay public, but are really just the 'Taco Bell' approach. (spinning off countless finished products using variations of 8 basic, well established ingredients)

Casio (4, Interesting)

WillgasM (1646719) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228163)

I'm pretty sure Casio introduced the smartwatch back in '70s.

Apple misdirection? (5, Funny)

gman003 (1693318) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228211)

This makes me suspect that Apple deliberately started rumors that they were working on a "smartwatch" simply to trick other companies into wasting effort into actually developing such a useless product.

Re:Apple misdirection? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228355)

Sort of like the tablet, iphone, and other devices we use every day?

I find it humorous how much time we waste fiddling with devices that don't make us any more productive and where they might be useful would be better as stand alone products. For instance GPS is much better when it is done stand alone. You get a bigger screen, potential integration, etc.

There will be lots of people who swear by there phone GPS systems and point to more accuracy due to GPS plus cell tower, etc. Ultimately though these features don't make the device better because its not a user related feature and traditional GPS is already pretty darn good. The problems tend to exist where neither GPS or cell would improve things. Things like maps in far off parts of the universe. With a dedicated device there is no reason to shrink the sreen down so small you can't see it.

I think the same thing would apply to organizers and phones. There are some integration things that are really nice like cellular backup of your data. However the design of the palm m500 has not been beat by ANY cellular device.

And because you have tried to turn the cell phone into an organizer/camera/do it all device it sucks as a phone. I much preferred my sleek flip phone that went a week off a single charge to any current phone that barely gets a days charge. Before you go on about your i**** getting more than a day consider your surroundings. If your in a place with a strong signal your battery life is ultimately not going to be so badly impacted.

there phone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228611)

There, Their, The're.

Did you gradgitate high skool?

Re:Apple misdirection? (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228439)

"Apple would like to announce that we are spending all of our money developing graphene nanobot buttplugs which will cure cancer and turn terrorists into gasoline. (snicker)"

Re:Apple misdirection? (1)

gQuigs (913879) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228455)

Yes... they are clearly doing this to hide their work on a iHat.

Re:Apple misdirection? (1)

blind biker (1066130) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228511)

This makes me suspect that Apple deliberately started rumors that they were working on a "smartwatch" simply to trick other companies into wasting effort into actually developing such a useless product.

You mean, after half a dozen companies already released specs for or working Android-based smart watches?

You Apple fanbois truly, honestly believe that Apple invented every fucking thing in tech and beyond.
There were smartphones before Apple "invented" them, there were MP3 players before Apple "invented" them, there was even slide-to-unlock before Apple "invented" it. FTFS!

Re:Apple misdirection? (1, Insightful)

hondo77 (324058) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228623)

The point isn't that Apple invented this or that. The point is that, as a market leader, others will follow their lead.

Re:Apple misdirection? (1)

blind biker (1066130) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228831)

The others have already decided to make smart watches! Samsung may be late to the party, but most others aren't - if anything, it is Apple that is trailing, together with Samsung.

Others will follow their lead? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228951)

As in others will "copy" Apple's lead by following from the front?

Pebble [getpebble.com]

Sony MN2SW [sony.com]

Metawatch [metawatch.com]

From what I have seen, I would say Apple is more of a Johnny-come-lately than any sort of "market leader".
But you can keep on believing what you want...

Re:Others will follow their lead? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229897)

Apple is clearly better at marketing. I never heard about any of these.

Re:Apple misdirection? (2)

peragrin (659227) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228525)

Ah but this is apple.

Apple is working on everything conceivable all the time. They only submit it to production once they are sure it works reasonably well, and they can make a decent margin on it without killing existing product lines. Until then it is applesauce.

the iPhone started as a tablet, that got shrunk because they couldn't do the tablet correctly(power, weight, cpu, etc) There were rumors of I 86 based darwin(the OS X Kernel) at the time OS X was orginially launched.

Apple hedges lots of bets internally. but it won't plunk down the cash for full production until certian conditions are met.

Samsung and sony, and Microsoft, and etc. have been doing smart watches, or even bluetooth connected watches for literally decades(Microsoft timex was what 1995?). The Datalink even has some fans today. If apple is finally going to do it it just means the tech has advanced enough to put a 1080P screen on the watch to play iads without stuttering.

Re:Apple misdirection? (1)

hondo77 (324058) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228581)

They only submit it to production once they are sure it works reasonably well, and they can make a decent margin on it without killing existing product lines.

You're an idiot. iPod sales are down since the launch of the iPhone. [cnn.com] Apple doesn't care.

Re:Apple misdirection? (0)

RocketRabbit (830691) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229259)

You were modded "funny" but Apple admits that they create tons of fake projects all the time. They do this for a number of reasons, including the one you mentioned, as well as testing the ability of their new hires to keep their yaps shut.

Re:Apple misdirection? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229623)

Apple admitted no such thing. In fact it is utter nonsense, but the rumors must fly....

Re:Apple misdirection? (0)

RocketRabbit (830691) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229769)

Yes, yes they have admitted just this. Then the spin machine got moving and they un-admitted it.

Re:Apple misdirection? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229263)

Useless product?

You do realise that people USED TO CARRY POCKET CLOCKS before they became small and could be fitted to the wrist instead.

Wristwatches were more convenient because you didn't need to pull some deck of cards sized object from your pocket all the time. (Sound famillia?)

And some poeple - Believe it or not - Would just like to use their phone as a phone. Without the whopping game playing multi app screen/formfactor crap.

Useless product for Smartphone junkie morons....... Perhaps.

Re:Apple misdirection? (1)

alen (225700) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229313)

only for the basement dwellers

i'll buy it for the health and biometric tracking features it will probably have

Re:Apple misdirection? (1)

dunkelfalke (91624) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229371)

I don't know, the already released Motorola MotoActv is something I'd very much like to have.

Re:Apple misdirection? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43230133)

Nah, we all know other companies won't actually develop anything especially Samsung. They'll announce it to pre-empt potential lawsuits later when they embrace and extend Apple's product. I'm not being cynical, just the smart thing to do.

battery? Phone talking? (0)

Janek Kozicki (722688) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228213)

Look, wrist watches were replaced by cellphones. There is no reason to introduce a watch again, unless it will replace the cellphone. Then, tell me - how the battery life problems were solved?

Oh, you might say that carrying both a watch AND a phone will be so great, because it will be a smart-watch. This is stupid reasoning, why carry more, if you can carry less?

Re:battery? Phone talking? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228307)

You don't CARRY a watch, you WEAR it.

Re:battery? Phone talking? (1)

neminem (561346) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228341)

Indeed. If I could wear my cellphone, I totally would. (Assuming my cellphone also had about 2 years of battery life on a single charge, like my watch does...)

Re:battery? Phone talking? (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228417)

You can, but you look like a douchebag talking to yourself on a bluetooth headset.

Re:battery? Phone talking? (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228517)

You also look like a douche bag talking to your watch on speaker phone because there is no ear piece.

Re:battery? Phone talking? (1)

neminem (561346) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228519)

Who said anything about a bluetooth headset? How do you know I don't want to talk directly into my wrist, like an awesome movie spy? (Ok, fine, those probably exist already, and I'm just being silly.)

Re:battery? Phone talking? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228543)

Or, depending on how you wear your smartphone, you'd look more like Leela from Futurama.

Come to think of it, why HASN'T anyone made a bracer like the thing Leela wears on her arm, complete with a place to mount a cell phone? That seems like something some Futurama fan would've come up with by now...

Re:battery? Phone talking? (1)

webmistressrachel (903577) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229073)

This, dammit. I would pay good money for such a thing if it also contained a powerful rechargable lithium polymer battery and two or more USB ports (for power, not data).

I was given one of these recently:

http://www.siibusinessproducts.com/eu/english/products/sp582e.html [siibusinessproducts.com]

It's irrelevant now, but it is a good example of a third-party creating new ways to work with equipment we already have. Bring on the Bracer dock...

Re:battery? Phone talking? (1)

Reverand Dave (1959652) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229079)

It better have a wrist-lojack-o-mater on it.

Re:battery? Phone talking? (3, Interesting)

Aranykai (1053846) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228401)

It will be a fashion statement. Though, I personally think it could be a handy little gadget if they simply make it compliment the phone rather than fail at duplicating functions. Display caller id, allow answering calls, function as a bluetooth speaker phone, display alerts so you dont have to pull your phone out of your pocket to find out that no, someone is not texting you, there is an update angry birds, control your music player, and heck, even display the current time.

I could see it as useful, but not exceptionally so. It should appeal to gadget folk. The real trick will be making it smart enough but simple.

Re:battery? Phone talking? (1)

c++0xFF (1758032) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229667)

The smart money is on a complementary device, I think. No need to sacrifice tablet and smartphone sales.

I'm hoping for a device that works well with any smartphone (that's a pipe dream, of course -- until someone roots the thing it'll probably only work with Samsung or Apple devices) to provide the types of things you suggested, but is not dependent on a connection for everything.

For example, give it enough memory to download a playlist, so I can use it as my MP3 player while working out.

Give it enough sensors and processing power to run some interesting apps, without a phone connection.

Re:battery? Phone talking? (1)

Hjalmar (7270) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228403)

I'm with you. If anything watches are dying out, except as a piece of jewelry. I don't see watches as a product category ripe for massive technological innovation, especially when the trend in "smart" devices (like phones) seems to be toward LARGER screens, not smaller.

Re:battery? Phone talking? (4, Funny)

Kaenneth (82978) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228665)

An iWatch would be a fashion accessory just like iPods and IPhones are fashion accessories, an iPad is just a digital purse.

(and Andriod tablets are digital cargo pants, while Surface tablets are digital fannypacks.)

Re:battery? Phone talking? (1)

Greyfox (87712) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228451)

What if we put a tiny speck of plutonium in them?

IIRC Bond's watch had a laser in it. One powerful enough to cut... something. I forget what. Handcuffs or something. Hmm. We're going to need a larger speck of plutonium...

Re:battery? Phone talking? (1)

Reverand Dave (1959652) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229141)

Ohh ohh and knockout gas, I want knockout gas!

Re:battery? Phone talking? (1)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228563)

Look, wrist watches were replaced by cellphones. There is no reason to introduce a watch again, unless it will replace the cellphone. Then, tell me - how the battery life problems were solved?

Why use a battery? When you can have a human fuel cell? [slashdot.org]

James Bond (1)

SleazyRidr (1563649) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228221)

We've all wanted smart watches since Q gave the first one to 007. It has taken a while, but I'm glad my dreams will finally come true.

Re:James Bond (4, Funny)

PPH (736903) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228393)

James Bond is a poser. I've wanted one since Dick Tracy [blogspot.com] .

Now get off my lawn, kid!

Screw James Bond (2)

Zynder (2773551) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228405)

Dick Tracy cites prior art!

Queue up the next round of pointless IP lawsuits! (0)

dav1dc (2662425) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228237)

If you thought the last round of pointless patent lawsuits was fun to watch... just wait, the best has yet to come surrounding the definition of a "time keeping device that is fastened to the wearer's wrist". ^_^

Stefan Jobes (3, Funny)

Spy Handler (822350) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228243)

if you look carefully, you can see the Samsung founder Stefan Jobes wearing a smartwatch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YciM_54HzZk [youtube.com]

Probably an apple iWatch prototype :) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228863)

Probably an apple iWatch prototype :)

Re:Stefan Jobes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229389)

Another reason why google is going down hill - By association!

I tried to watch that video: And was told this video is not allowed in my country.

What The FUCK!

It's 2013 for ffs, we should be beyond this sort of rubish by now!
(Either implimented by the poster or by google allowing it in the service themselves).

What are they going to do with a sandwich? (1)

HeckRuler (1369601) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228247)

Damn, read that as "sandwich" and thought I was at the onion... maybe I'm hungry.

Re:What are they going to do with a sandwich? (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228303)

Damn, now I want an onion sandwich.

Sandwich (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228255)

Misread that as "Samsung also making a sandwich". Got real excited too.

Quick! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228367)

Quick! Patent every existing technology but add the words - 'on a watch'

Unimaginable? What about Dick Tracy and Search? (2)

Forever Wondering (2506940) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228371)

IIRC, didn't Dick Tracy have a two-way wrist radio back in the 60's? And the "Search" [nee "Probe"] TV series had a tricorder-like device [they called a "scanner"] that could fit on top of an agent's ring.

So, such things were imagined just not realized. Just getting the prior art out there before the youngster lawyers start claiming so-and-so company invented the concept.

I need a peripheral watch, not a phone watch. (1)

BenJeremy (181303) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228399)

There are plenty of phone watches out there... that is nothing new. What I'd like is something like Pebbl or the Sony Ericsson LiveView that interfaces to my phone (Android or iPhone) with some sort of standard interface for developers.

It can be a two-way interface, relaying video and audio in both directions, as well as have a small touch screen.

$150 is a bit much... LiveViews are available for $30, as they seem to be closeouts... I would like something like this for less than $100, though.

Do people still wear watches? (1)

multiben (1916126) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228409)

If I am prepared to turn my head a few degrees in any direction I can see the time from pretty much anywhere. Apart from impressing your friends by wearing a Patek Philippe or some such, I don't really understand why people wear watches anymore.

Re:Do people still wear watches? (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228481)

So you can impress your friends by showing off your iWatch.

Re:Do people still wear watches? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228691)

You wear a watch so you can discreetly* check the time without anyone noticing.

You also wear a watch as a fashion accessory. It doesn't have to be "impressive". Think of a watch as a useful bracelet a man can wear. If it is "impressive" it can also help show status. I choose my watches carefully. I have some that didn't cost that much get a lot of positive attention. I have others that are great on dates because they don't catch a lot of attention, but when my dates notice, they tend to have a positive reaction and it tells me how much they pay attention to detail.

But this smart watch sounds stupid. I am very skeptical it will be interesting enough even for an every day watch. And I already have a pocket computer that does all these things. No need to wear that on my wrist so I can be mugged for it.

*And if it is digital you can also discretely check the time.

Re:Do people still wear watches? (3, Interesting)

guantamanera (751262) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228723)

Yes, lots of people still wear watches. smart phones are just smart pocket watches now days. But to check the time a wrist watch is faster. I prefer analogue mechanical watches, that way I do not have to worry about batteries since I have so many. I do have a digital watch is though solar pathfinder by casio that I use when I go hiking to keep track of the altitude changes and to predict the weather. And in my opinion Analogue is better starting a coutdown just requires a quick rotate of the bezel. I also have a watch that has a slide ruler I rotate it and can do complex calculations really quick. I also use a analogue mechanical watch to keep time when I go diving. And the best feature is that a good watch can get you laid.

Re:Do people still wear watches? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229811)

Because they are delicate pieces of enginering and art ,if by watch you mean a proper mechanical watch, if you mean quartz watche, well I don't know why people started wearing them in the first place.

one clock to rule them all (1)

epine (68316) | about a year and a half ago | (#43230199)

If I am prepared to turn my head a few degrees in any direction I can see the time from pretty much anywhere. Apart from impressing your friends by wearing a Patek Philippe or some such, I don't really understand why people wear watches anymore.

I suppose you've never met a shift-worker with a dual-time watch where the second display is set to 07:00 on waking so that one doesn't forget to each lunch when the real-world strikes 03:00.

I suppose you don't operate a stop-watch by feel and sound and habit when driving around town to determine the most efficient routes (is it even legal to fumble with your phone's stop-watch application?)

I suppose you've never forgotten to pack your phone's charge cable, or taken a vacation to some remote place where leaving behind your phone and phone's charger is considered a wise idea.

I suppose you've never got your hands covered with some kind of horrible construction adhesive while working on the construction of an out-building that isn't even wired for power yet.

I suppose, in general, you don't get out much. I've coined my own term for this condition: use-case blindness. But you do seem to read the advertisements for status bling in magazines left lying around in your local coffee shop, so you must get out at least a little bit.

How Apple can bankrupt Samsung (1)

Ossifer (703813) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228453)

Just keep releasing rumours about crazy products in the pipe line:

1. TV you talk at. Check, Samsung already made one. Anyone buy it?
2. Watch with battery life about 1/1000th of a normal one. In the pipeline...
3. ??????

The first stike won't be the best (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228471)

If Samsung releases their watch first, Apple will release a "better" one. That of course may mean Apple won't release what they planned to however.

You can't release a competing product that doesn't compete without losing face.

Samsung's smart watch will crush the iWatch (5, Interesting)

TimHunter (174406) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228483)

You'll be able to jailbreak the Samsung smart watch, load a new kernel, hell, even compile your own kernel ON THE WATCH using a complete Gnu tool chain. And you won't have to go to some curated app store to get apps for the Samsung watch. You can get 'em from anywhere. For free! How can Apple's walled garden compete with that? Samsung FTW!

Re: Samsung's smart watch will crush the iWatch (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229527)

Not sure if sarcasm or just an idiot.

Good design always seems obvious (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228493)

But as any designer will tell you, it takes a massive amount of talent and work to make a good design.

But why? Watches are so yesterday. (0)

pubwvj (1045960) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228551)

But why bother. Watches are so yesterday. Just about every gadget from the microwave to the stove to the phone to thermometers to DVD players to bombs to the tablet to the computer displays the time. This is annoyingly so since so many of these devices need setting and then resetting twice a year with Daylight Stupid Time.

I don't like to wear a watch on my wrist. Even a good waterproof one gets too dinged up. I especially don't want a good one on my wrist getting manure on it.

Many people I know don't bother with watches for these same reasons. Watches are passé. I certainly don't want to strap my phone, computer or MP3 on my wrist. The idea of putting an even more expensive gadget in the line of dirt is dumb. Add to that a tiny screen and undoubtedly short battery life that will be one more battery dying and needing replacing after a few years.

No thanks.

By the way, I just threw that bomb in to see if you were paying attention. Did you catch it?

Spiceps (2)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228617)

An internet connected wearable spice rack for your arms. Welcome to the world of the future.

Appletrolls (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228669)

Appletrolls will complain that Samsung is stealing from Apple again

Re: Appletrolls (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229555)

Samsungtrolls will claim that Samescum is innovative and doesn't copy apple. Now with the new sWatch. Whooops. Problem.....

Why? Here's why! (1)

guttergod (94044) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229471)

The why is blindingly obvious to me.... Because with the trend of phones being 5"+, a watch is a HUGE lot handier to manage than having to pull out the phone unlock it, read some sms or email which likely doesn't require an immediate response anyway, or hang up a call from someone you don't have time to talk to at the moment. Add to that some other on-a-glance features, like... *the time*, a stopwatch, countdown timer etc, and hey presto, a whole package of quite useful stuff which may come in handy.

I just hope it can be movement-powered (1)

Mister Liberty (769145) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229545)

Another win for ADHD!

Sony has one. so does Motorola (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229605)

.. In fact Motorola has a nice one. runs android. it has been 'hacked' with new kernels and everything.. I'd post links but I'm supposed to be working :)

Hope Pebble Doesn't Get Crunched (2)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229627)

This feels a lot like history might be repeating itself here.

Anyone remember the ill-fated CrunchPad? Public announcement preceded that of the ipad, but for a bunch of reasons it never amounted to much while the Ipad took off and even Apple's competitors did better than how the crunchpad ended up.

Now we have the Pebble Watch [getpebble.com] which actually did make it to market (despite many unforseen delays) before the iwatch and other competitors (I think sony has a crappy smartwatch, but it is crappy). Even so it is immature with only modest software functionality at the moment.

Meanwhile all the chatter gives the impression Apple and others have got their own versions coming real soon now. Maybe its just FUD to scare people into wait-and-see on Pebble instead of going out and buying one right now. Or maybe there really is something good right around the corner that will clobber Pebble.

The age of gimmicks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229749)

The worst kind of pundit is one that safely predicts that past trends will continue into the future. This isn't a prediction, simply a cowardly use of a self-evident statistical fact. Company A has had success for the last ten years, so company A will be successful next year. You can say this without any facts or true analysis.

So, the fact that Apple has had recent success with some new products (mp3 players and phones) clearly means Apple can continue to find successful new gimmicks in the future. WAIT A MOMENT. This is absolutely untrue. Most of Apple's previous gimmicks have been bombs. Maybe one day a smart-watch will be a real money-earner, but the likelihood is this will never happen.

However, such a gizmo is too easy for Apple not to try. And for companies that ride alongside Apple, well they would be insane not to throw their hat into the same speculative ring. So, Samsung preps a smart-watch too.

Why now? Well watches have a limited volume, so to place a decent computer within one takes real advancement in tech- namely size of circuit, performance, and power consumption. Like tablets (PDAs), smart-watches have been tried many times in the past. Perhaps the origin of the movement was the idea of the wrist-watch radio, then TV. However, when technology advancements made the radio and TV possible in such a form factor, it soon became apparent that no-one wanted such a gimmick.

In the early days of LCD watches, companies rapidly tried all forms of computer backed ideas, but it turned out that people were unimpressed when better LCD displays could show all kids of fancy graphic display. People liked the accuracy, no-winding and alarms, but computer or not, a watch was just for telling the time.

And so, now, you can cram a full function Android or iOS computer into a watch, with excellent wireless connectivity to your phone or tablet. The battery life still stinks if you do real work on the watch, though, so it can't really function as a tablet. It'll probably need a daily charge, making it worse than the old clockwork watches in that respect.

Here's the question. Will the main selling point- endlessly configurable 'skins' for the watch face- appeal to a mass market. What I find about the concept of 'skinning' is that it is great fun browsing the artistic work of others- to look at the amazing themes they create- but in practice I usually pick a practical minimal clear theme and then never change. Apple (and Samsung) will tell you that you can have a different watch-face every day of the week, but I don't think themes are a big selling point.

The 'clever' apps that will suck the life from the battery - how do they compete with people using their phone instead? People love fiddling with their phone. Why would they fiddle with a tiny thing strapped to their wrist- which is usually worn as jewelry?

We are in one of those periodic ages of gimmicks. Kickstarter helps drive this. In fairness you can aim to make a lot of money from selling people gimmicks that will end up lost in some draw or cupboard after a couple of uses. Sony sold a lot of PSP handhelds on this basis, and so did Nintendo with the Wii. However, it is not a good strategy for Apple or Samsung to follow. Apple shares are falling like a stone. If Apple allows itself some 'Windows 8 Tablet' style flops, the market will assume the magic at Apple is over, and the age of Android is truly here.

It's not who comes first... (1)

locater16 (2326718) | about a year and a half ago | (#43230021)

"First!" isn't what counts here, this isn't an internet forum. Apple didn't build the first "smart" phone, or first MP3 player, or the first tablet. It built the most useful, and user friendly, tablet and smartphone and MP3 player to date. I'm not sure it matters if Samsung is "first". If Apple's product seems significantly "better" it's going to dominate anyway.

No, stop making stupid (1)

Carson (2871375) | about a year and a half ago | (#43230149)

Apple said "Hey someone left fudge on the ground." Samsung looked over, grabbed a hunk and chowed down. Google couldn't find them because she had smeared something all over her eyes. Microsoft was alone on the swingset wishing he could blind himself and eat poo, looked fun. Yeah I'm not a fan of this idea. No one bought cellphone watches, why make them smart?
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