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Google Launches 'Keep' To Rival Evernote

Soulskill posted about a year and a half ago | from the keep-on-keeping-on dept.

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Today Google launched 'Google Keep', a mobile note-taking service to rival software like Evernote. It works on devices running Android 4.0 or later, and there's also a web interface (which is struggling under launch load as of this writing). Google describes the service thus: "With Keep you can quickly jot ideas down when you think of them and even include checklists and photos to keep track of what’s important to you. Your notes are safely stored in Google Drive and synced to all your devices so you can always have them at hand. If it’s more convenient to speak than to type that’s fine—Keep transcribes voice memos for you automatically. There’s super-fast search to find what you’re looking for and when you’re finished with a note you can archive or delete it." Fans of Google Reader will probably be a bit hesitant to pick this up.

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shut your hole (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43227849)

just another trap to invade the lives of individuals by propagating the mass transfer of information into NSA centers

Google Used to Innovate (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43227879)

Remember when Google used to innovate?

No (5, Insightful)

oGMo (379) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228087)

You mean when they made a search engine? Or a webmail client? Or online maps? Or office apps? Or an RSS reader? Or a calendar? Or a finance site? Or a chat program? Or a photo site? Or an online store? Or a social site? Or a phone OS?

None of these things are "innovations", none of them were particularly innovative, and they weren't doing any of them first (or even early), but in many cases they were better/easier/free-as-in-beer-er than the alternative. Which is fine. And they made money on it. Which is great. And when they stop working (like Reader), we'll find something else, or write something else. Since they make getting your data out pretty easy, that's not even hard.

And if you've become complacent where if Google doesn't offer it, you can't find it, that's not innovation... that's you being lazy. And it's not their fault, it's yours.

Re:No (-1, Flamebait)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228219)

Google is great at taking an idea an improving. As opposed to some companies, which take an idea and chop it to death. And then rape it.

Re:No (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228317)

Or other companies which come up with ideas, but are then unsuccessful with them.

Re:No (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228407)

Quit skipping chapters! That part comes in chapter six and we're only on chapter 1!

Re:No (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228567)

And hopefully ends with chapter 11.

Re:No (2)

todrules (882424) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228921)

Google is great at taking an idea an improving.

... and then mohtballing it a couple of years later.

Re:No (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228461)

I think people have different definitions of "innovate." I think this was covered on slashdot within the last few weeks... anyway, I think glass might meet my definition of innovative. For a tech company anyway. Different yardstick for those entities which must make a profit off of what new things they make.

Re:No (4, Interesting)

greenfruitsalad (2008354) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229167)

i read about 'glass' about 13 years ago in a short story in a scifi magazine. but it was way more advanced. it also created persistent overlays of the real world and communicated with other 'glasses'. e.g. if i told my 'glass' to put a watch on my wrist, others with 'glass' could see it on my wrist too. same for a virtual picture on a bedroom wall, etc.
the story unfortunately isn't in english http://www.scifi.sk/poviedky/80/Juraj_Andrassy-Ruzove_okuliare.html [scifi.sk]

No thanks. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43227881)

I'll stick with colornote. At least they won't up and vanish, assuming gmail doesn't get pulled next :P

I thought Google Kept Everything (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43227895)

...already.

Re:I thought Google Kept Everything (4, Funny)

MrEricSir (398214) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228263)

Except for their products. They don't seem very interested in keeping those around.

screw google! (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43227901)

I will try very hard to never use new Google products. As they are a company that cannot be relied on to to support a product despite the number of people who become dependent on it. I have been already burnt by Google Notebook, and now Google Reader. They just decided to yank the product. Now they greedily crawl back in with Google Keep. You should not be keeping anything with Google if you really want to keep it for a long time. They are an untrustworthy company.

Re:screw google! (3, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#43227973)

Make sure you ask for a refund.

Re:screw google! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228065)

If a refund means Google has to delete everything they know about me and can no longer resell my data to anyone, then sign me up, now.

Re:screw google! (2, Insightful)

TC Wilcox (954812) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228083)

Make sure you ask for a refund.

Asking for a refund would be totally relevant if he was their customer. He isn't... He is the product and when your users are your product getting your users mad really can have consequences.

Re:screw google! (3, Funny)

mark-t (151149) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228325)

If people are their product, then wouldn't that make Google guilty of human trafficking?

Re:screw google! (1)

yahwotqa (817672) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228565)

Um... Whoosh!

Re:screw google! (1)

ClintJCL (264898) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229329)

No, that wasn't a whoosh. He got it, and that was his answer.

Re:screw google! (1)

geekoid (135745) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229219)

The users are the customers and the product. It's not binary.

Re:screw google! (2)

Proteus (1926) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228141)

Maybe some compensation for all that personal data and advertising revenue they got from his use of Gmail? It's not like Gmail is provided at no value to Google (same with Reader, actually).

Re:screw google! (4, Informative)

Archangel Michael (180766) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228313)

If you read the blurb, this is not really a "new" product, but rather an extension of Google Drive. If you use Google Drive, you already have the product.

http://drive.google.com/keep [google.com]

Re:screw google! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228967)

That's right, stick to shit about Google. You clearly don't understand fuck all about real science. So keep bickering with the geek squad while the adults talk about science.

Re:screw google! (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229115)

while the adults talk

Says the AC stalker who can't formulate two sentences without swearing. I'm so impressed with your vocabulary.

Google Keep (2)

pushing-robot (1037830) | about a year and a half ago | (#43227905)

Fans of Google Reader will probably be a bit hesitant to pick this up.

At least the headlines will be good.

Re:Google Keep (1)

Howitzer86 (964585) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229349)

There better be an export option.

Evernote is just straight HTML. Your exports will look exactly like your notes in the program - which is extremely good in case we get word that they plan to shut down soon.

Can't wait until next spring (5, Funny)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | about a year and a half ago | (#43227917)

I'm pretty sure that's when this will get the axe.

Software As A Service (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43227925)

No thanks.

Google notebook (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43227951)

I learned my lesson once.
They were quick to kill that without actually thinking about it.

Not only that, they have killed iGoogle and Google Reader without even thinking FOR A SECOND and stepping back to see how fucking EASILY both of them could be monetized. (which makes me think their excuse was a terrible lie at best)

I'll use my own systems, thank you.

Cloud This! (1, Flamebait)

girlintraining (1395911) | about a year and a half ago | (#43227965)

Why is there this rush to put everything in the cloud? Are you telling me that my device can't store a few bytes to kilobytes of textual data on it... that I need to download an online-only app to perform this most basic function? I mean, the IBM 8088AT class computers with giant 5.25 floppy drives had the ability to save text documents... and it didn't have a network connection.

Oh right, I forgot: Data mining. All those juicy keywords. Mmm, delicious monitization of your private data... mmmyes, myes. I think I just had an evilgasm. Okay, nevermind... sorry, was trying to be logical here. Didn't see there was money to be had. Ignore my previous! Carry on!

Re:Cloud This! (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228113)

are you intentionally being obtuse or is this really how short sighted you are? Did you even read the summary at all?

One of the main points of cloud based note applications like Evernote and Google Keep is to keep notes automatically in sync between many devices. This along with local and remote copies ensure your notes do not get lost.

Sorry to break your rant.

Re:Cloud This! (4, Insightful)

Proteus (1926) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228197)

Well, Google's interest is certainly in getting data; but they wouldn't be able if there weren't a market for it. Why? I don't just use one device, so I want easy, transparent access to my data no matter what I'm using. And some of my devices are quite tiny; I don't want to lose my data when I lose my device, so I'd at least want some kind of automatic remote backup...

Not to mention that things like Evernote do a lot of processing on the data you send them that would be onerous on a portable device. For example, if I snap a pic of a business card, the text on that card is OCR'd and made searchable. That would suck hard on a phone; it's much easier to offload that capability (and corpus!) to the cloud. This saves me precious battery and improves the quality of my results.

The issue isn't network-based computing, it's that we don't have the controls in place to assert control of our data on a provider's equipment; we are forced to trust that they won't do Bad Things. And that's a problem.

Re:Cloud This! (1)

girlintraining (1395911) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229093)

I don't just use one device, so I want easy, transparent access to my data no matter what I'm using. And some of my devices are quite tiny; I don't want to lose my data when I lose my device, so I'd at least want some kind of automatic remote backup...

If that's all that "the cloud" offers, an encrypted solution so that only you have access to the data would be more user-friendly. But like I said... data mining.

Re:Cloud This! (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228529)

I use onenote for my lab notebook and to keep ideas in. I back it up to the cloud. At conferences before, I've wanted to access those notes without my computer and have been able to. Plus, I can't be bothered to keep my backups up to date every time I enter something new, automatic backup is good. That way if my computer gets eaten by a mutant frog embryo, I'll still have all my notes. Or rather, the survivors will and will be able to figure out what went wrong.

Re: Evilgasm (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228571)

Hmmm, so you get to think dirty evil thoughts while you have fun dirty evil things done to you, and you can get an everlasting evilgasm?

Cloud great, proprietary products bad (1)

joh (27088) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228881)

Why is there this rush to put everything in the cloud? Are you telling me that my device can't store a few bytes to kilobytes of textual data on it...

If you note down something on your computer and then you're on the road and want that note, what do you do? And yes, there are ways to do this, but I'm using Simplenote (much better than this Google thing, free and dozens of clients and scripts and whatnot for all platforms) since a few years and I can tell you that it makes a GREAT difference to have your notes available everywhere and all the time without any effort. Note down a book title, an IP address, some serial number, whatever, and have it available everywhere.

The problem is not the cloud. The cloud is great. The problem are monopolies like Google that offer no standard protocols with an RFC number and accept no third-party implementations of their APIs and protocols and servers. THIS is the problem, not "the cloud".

The web is in the cloud, email is in the cloud. But these have protocols and standards and are not just proprietary products. The fact that you have to explain and preach that over and over and people STILL think that there ist just "have everything saved on your dusty PC or give everything to Google Facebook" is crazy. Are people really that dumb?

Hell, you're not reading that from your PCs HD and you're not writing your comment to it. You read it in the "cloud" and your write it to the "cloud".

Hard to trust (4, Insightful)

boshvark (2599623) | about a year and a half ago | (#43227969)

I'm pretty sure Evernote will not suddenly "retire" its service and leave users out to dry. Sorry, Google Keep. Even if you're everything I ever dreamed of, you've arrived at the wrong place and the wrong time.

Re:Hard to trust (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228077)

What makes you say that?

Re:Hard to trust (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229233)

What makes you say that?

Hi, Eliza!

Re:Hard to trust (4, Insightful)

JanneM (7445) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228441)

I don't trust Evernote either. It is their main line of business so it's unlikely to be "spring cleaned". But they can certainly go bankupt or bought by a rival and lose the cervice altogether. Or they can move in a direction that makes future versions bad or unusable for me. When it's the cloud you can never stay with a previous version.

Anything critical, you use an offline app. Use the net only for syncing, preferably through file sharing or other system-agnostic manner.

Re:Hard to trust (2)

physicsphairy (720718) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228779)

Well, there probably is *some* extra security in that Evernote has less flexibility to migrate their engineers to other projects. However, that also means bad things if their app stops making money the most sensible thing may be to basically sellout their users (and potentially their data) to some other firm. They might be gobbled up by a larger company for other reasons and be taken in an unpleasant direction (see Sun->Oracle), or simply forced to declare bankruptcy, both of which are far less likely for Google. Basically, no matter who owns it, the software needs to be profitable to continue being supported, and there are some risks even if it is.

I feel there is always some need to plan for the software you use being retired. Even if it's an open source project, if it's anything which involves integrating with other software/hardware, you are still going to have to abandon it if you continue updating your other software/hardware. (granted it is much easier for an OS project to find new maintainers)

My principal question is if I can easily export my data, which google does tend to be pretty good about. Of course, I am still interested in how long I think it will be before I have to migrate, because migrating is annoying, but if it's a very compelling piece of software and I will be able to export my data from it, it's probably worth betting on the potential shelflife.

Wait a minute... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43227971)

Wasn't there something similar before? Oh yeah, Google Notebook. We'll see how this version lasts...

Fool me once... (5, Informative)

rgbscan (321794) | about a year and a half ago | (#43227975)

I've been burned by too many "non-core" Google applications to even be bothered to try this. I mean, look up the old Google Notebook. Basically the same thing. If it ain't search, advertising, or social.... it's only a matter of time till you get scroogled. (Funny I thought that was the dumbest MS campaign ever....but it's starting to grow on me).

Re:Fool me once... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228103)

Scroogling is bad but I've been Ballmered one too many times.

Re:Fool me once... don't get too comfortable (3, Insightful)

Aguazul2 (2591049) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228231)

I wonder if they realize that people who are now Readerless are going to avoid relying Google products/services in future. Certainly there is no way I would build life habits around any Google service now. You don't want to get too used to using anything of theirs, don't get too comfortable. Then they will wonder why their new products aren't taking off any more.

Re:Fool me once... don't get too comfortable (2)

fwarren (579763) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228419)

Yes they know they will loose a lot of us Google Reader users trust But not many people used Google Reader. The total number of Google Reader users who will drop all Google based products plus everyone the can influence to do that same thing, is not a very large number. If it costs them 100,000 users I would be surprised.

Re:Fool me once... don't get too comfortable (1)

RocketRabbit (830691) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229327)

It's not just the number of people who stop using Google's services that they have to worry about. Every time they drop support for something, they are signaling to people that putting your data into a new Google offering is risky business.

Re:Fool me once... don't get too comfortable (5, Insightful)

joh (27088) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229383)

Yeah, but let me tell you that users who used Google Reader are those who read and write a lot. Each of them is easily worth 10 plain users. I was burned by that and right now I'm busy moving quite a few users and one business away from Google. Google kicking out ActiveSync and in six months CalDAV isn't exactly helping them here. Google is starting to feel somewhat uncomfortable all of a sudden. There has been a widely felt uncomfortable feeling about Google's potential to abuse their power for quite a while but all of this is the first time Google makes this potential into something you have to deal with. And this is not a good feeling.

Google is changing right now. Even those working there notice that. Google is dropping right now all the attributes that made nerds comfortable with it. It is turning into something else.

Re:Fool me once... don't get too comfortable (1)

RocketRabbit (830691) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229301)

Reader? How about Wave and Knol. Google just sticks everything they can think of out there, to see if it immediately turns into money. If it doesn't, they shut it down.

Re:Fool me once... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228253)

If it makes you feel better, MS isn't the one who came up with the term 'scroogled'...

note-taking (1)

optikos (1187213) | about a year and a half ago | (#43227987)

Where is the advertising in that?

Re:note-taking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228053)

Where is the advertising in that?

Simple, search your note for text keywords, linked websites or images and pump out the AdWords on the side.
No different to Gmail..

Google Notebook (5, Interesting)

CremIon (119396) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228023)

Anyone remember Google Notebook...?

Re:Google Notebook (1)

Joshua Fan (1733100) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228729)

And Google Tasks? Which is a pretty recent product. I don't understand why they didn't just expand Tasks a little bit. Keep is kinda an awkward name.

So...Google Keep... (5, Funny)

CremIon (119396) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228039)

...until it's Gone...?

Re:So...Google Keep... (5, Funny)

dclozier (1002772) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228171)

At which point it will be renamed Google Kept.

Re:So...Google Keep... (1)

jockm (233372) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229091)

Yes because commercial products never fail, go out of business, or have the business pivot. Charging is no assurance of success.

While it is sad to see Google Reader go, it is important to remember that it had a five year lifespan, which is an eternity for a webapp. Nor is your data locked in.

I use Evernote because my clients use Evernote, but Keep looks rather nice.

Re:So...Google Keep... (1)

geekoid (135745) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229185)

Except Reader was well used, entrenched in many industries, and support business needs.

Google needs to realize that ahving something that is important to the internet ecosystem is, in and of itself, valuable.

Lulz (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228071)

I hope they 'Keep' this one. Get it? 'Keep'

No they won't (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228085)

Fans of Google Reader will probably be a bit hesitant to pick this up.

No, they won't, because they were fucking idiots trusting Google(*) in the first place.

(*) That comment would also be valid for any of the major "cloud" (lol) players

Re:No they won't (1)

Fwipp (1473271) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228327)

Yes, I "trusted" Google to maintain the list of RSS feeds I am interested in. And given that it took me less than two minutes to export the data into nice readable JSON and XML, I don't think I made a mistake using their free service for the past few years.

I think I can also "trust" Google Keep to hold onto those little things for when I need them, and let me export the important data when they're shutting the thing down in a few years. If I can't find a grocery list from 2 years ago, I think I'll be able to cope.

Can't trust Google (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228097)

After they killed Reader, it's not pragmatic to use any of their services, given how they're prone to senselessly killing them off.

Hightech (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228151)

I could program the same functionality within 24h it looks like a super useless service. Btw from my past experience with evernote I think Evernote is seriously not the contender for this. Looks more like a remember the milk minimal or stuff like that.

I plan on using it (3, Insightful)

linuxguy (98493) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228155)

Many people here are pooh-poohing the new service for various reasons. I just wanted to provide a counter point.

I tried evernote. I did not like it. I generally like the services Google provides and in the manner they do. I understand that nothing is guaranteed. And that one day this service may too disappear and I am OK with that. This is a price I am willing to pay.

Isn't this just Google Notebook? (4, Insightful)

Proteus (1926) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228215)

I mean, a slightly different interface, but substantially the same. And Google killed that product; why do we think this time around will be better?

Re:Isn't this just Google Notebook? (1)

Joshua Fan (1733100) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229031)

Um... try using it and see for yourself?

Re:Isn't this just Google Notebook? (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229379)

Um... try using it and see for yourself?

It's not something you can "try", it's something that has to work for about five years going and give people assurance it will not be dropped. The aspectss you can "try" (like taking notes) are really not the point of concern.

Re:Isn't this just Google Notebook? (1)

jockm (233372) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229109)

I would say this is a successor to Notebook. A much richer and better successor.

What's the point? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228291)

I currently use Google docs for basically identical functionality. I type a quick grocery or to-do list or whatever in Google docs, which I can then immediately access on any device (like my phone) which can access Google drive. If I want to avoid the horrible security bungle committed by Evernote recently, I can type it as a text or whatever and encrypt it before storing it on Google drive. The added bonus to this is that Google then won't have the ability to make money off me by mining through my data (this data anyway).

Count me out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228369)

I'm really not comfortable giving google any more of my data than they already have.

Tie to Google Drive is probably a good sign (2, Interesting)

Erbo (384) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228377)

The fact that Keep is tied to Google Drive is probably a good sign for its longevity. Google probably wrote it using the same APIs via which third-party applications use Drive to store data, and Drive appears sufficiently "core" to Google and a variety of other Google initiatives (Chrome OS and Android among them) that it'll stick.

Disclaimer: Part of my impression comes from having attended the Google Boulder Open House last night, where they gave presentations on the projects they run from the Boulder office, of which Drive is one.

Re:Tie to Google Drive is probably a good sign (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228499)

If Reader can go so can everything else certainly including a note-taking app.

CALDAV access ? or calendar ? (1)

johnjones (14274) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228973)

so its a task list...

can I sync it with my task's for calendar via standards such as CalDAV ?

otherwise forget about it

John

Google is dropping CalDAV (1)

joh (27088) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229407)

In six months CalDAV support will end.

This is a rival? (3, Insightful)

Dave Emami (237460) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228385)

I've used both Evernote and Springpad, and stuck with the latter, but after fiddling around with the web interface on Google Keep for a while, my question is: this is supposed to be a rival service? It looks more like something from the example page of a web app library. All you seem to able to do is enter text notes, and lists. Perhaps Keep for Android has more functionality, but just comparing between the web versions of all three, Keep doesn't have 1/10th of the capability of either of the others. It's like comparing Word with Notepad.

Simplenote (1)

joh (27088) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228689)

Simplenote does the same (very simple notes), it is free and it has real clients for all platforms. Many of them. [simplenote.com]

Since they have now have "Find" and "Keep".... (4, Funny)

mark-t (151149) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228435)

All they need now is services called "Lose" and "Weep".

Re:Since they have now have "Find" and "Keep".... (1)

Daetrin (576516) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228531)

All they need now is services called "Lose" and "Weep".

Judging by the other comments i think they already have that covered. I believe they were codenames for Google Notebook and Google Reader.

Actually, I can deal with this (1)

BumpyCarrot (775949) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228509)

Reader fans can liberate their data and they've had years of free service. I know, because I am one. But if making pissy comments on a /. article makes you guys feel better, who am I to deprive you of that?

Consider this: would a company dedicated to RSS, in the way that Evernote is dedicated to notes, have been able to maintain a free service for as long?

Re:Actually, I can deal with this (1)

joh (27088) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228653)

Why free? How can such a service that requires servers and bandwidth be "free" anyway?

I would gladly pay for Google Reader. I don't understand why they didn't just limit it to users of payed Google Apps accounts as they did with EAS support.

Key is "maintain service" (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229435)

Consider this: would a company dedicated to RSS, in the way that Evernote is dedicated to notes, have been able to maintain a free service for as long?

A free service? No. Instead they would have charged, and everyone would have known a lot sooner if that was practical. I would far rather pay a small amount of money for a service I like because it provides a lot more certainty that thing will stay around.

Attract, Advertise, Abandon (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228533)

We used to complain about Microsoft's "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish", and rightly so. But Google has its own version.

If there's a word beginning with 'A' meaning "Mine Personal Details", it belongs right in there too.

Forget watch, I want a smart brace (0)

BlueCoder (223005) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228569)

I want a smart brace. A double sided or all the way around smart phone/tablet for my lower left arm/wrist. It would only be bad for playing games. Paired with a Bluetooth headset it's a perfect PIM (personal information manager) form factor. The larger surface area around your lower arm also allow for a much larger battery capacity. Sometimes I might want to access apps horizontally from the top of my wrist and other times vertically from below. Very hard to lose. I can easily see it taking 20% of the smart phone market. With possibly a phablet taking over a third of the rest.

A wrist brace would have a light weight screen and concentrate more on battery life and being a hub for the rest of your devices rather rather than a platform for high end graphics games and high frame rates. A hub both for a communications link and concentrated local data storage. A more utility oriented smart phone.

It would also pair well with the Google glass or and implanted glasses.

Problem here is over specialisation (1)

technicalnotebook (1812518) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228575)

The biggest issue I see with Google is that they like to tease the waters with these services, things like the recently retired Google Reader, they will put it out there, decide that they are not getting enough interest and then retire it. Google needs to look at what they do and keep doing it well, not trying to target every aspect of the market. Personally I would FAR prefer to put my data into Evernote, as I know they will hang around, Google Keep... meh we will see how long until it goes. The things google innovate on, THEY hang around, the things that Google follow on... tend to get flushed after a while. Just my 2c.

But why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228577)

So why would someone choose to use this over EverNote or OneNote, both of which have established, mature Android clients?

Especially since it's unlikely that Google is going to release a non-Android version. With OneNote and EverNote, I have a native client on every device I own.

Sigh... (2)

joh (27088) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228579)

I'm a bit torn right now between two ways to go on:

a) I set up servers of my own for everything (I still have an SMTP and IMAP server for email, never trusted Gmail) like calendars, contacts, documents, notes, etc. Lots of work to set this up, a bit of money, fear of it being not secure enough if I don't put in more work and time.

b) Just throw myself at Google and accept that every odd year a service I used and love will be gone and I have to find a new home for it after exporting and converting my data (as I have to do right now with Google Reader and the >100000 starred articles in it). Hardly any work at all, Google reads all my data.

My anger says a), my lazy soul says b).

But I surely don't love Google. By the way, nice article here: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jw_on_tech/archive/2012/03/13/why-i-left-google.aspx [msdn.com]

Wait... has this thing any protocol or API to access this with other apps? Or is it again Google/Android/Browser or nothing?

Choose the Lazy C (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229411)

C) Use Evernote, gain all of the benefits of Google but be a lot more assured it will stick around.

And yes there's an API.

I give it a year. (1)

asm2750 (1124425) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228651)

Then Google will decide it's not worth keeping and tell everyone they will be killing it a year later, just like they do with all the products these days.

How I learned about Evernote (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228677)

True story. I was on my way to pay the power bill (pay in cash at K-mart, save a stamp) and looked up and saw a building with their name and logo on it. I made a mental note to find out what they were, since I'm obviously interested in things going on in Si Valley, where I still live.

I looked over their site and my first thought was, "this company could disappear and I wouldn't care". There are a lot of companies like this in the Valley, so it's a bit of a knee-jerk reaction for me.

In fact, I feel I've become just a bit too cynical about it all so I decided to play devil's advocate. The first thing that came to mind was the progression of literacy. Literacy ended the need for people who recited geneologies, land titles, and various other things in towns. As soon as it could be written down, human memory became less practiced; but that was OK because it could be devoted to other things.

Literacy is power and progress; but there is always the concern that any form of progress will just be a crutch that causes our brains or bodies to atrophy. To wit--we no longer do as much physical labor; but we now pay gyms $30/mo so we can perform physical labor.

So. Is something like Evernote a utility that will expand the power of the human mind and allow us to achieve new things for the benefit of mankind, or is it just something that will make our memories atrophy so that we have to do brain puzzles to prevent early-onset Alzheimers? Will we end up paying $30/mo to some mental gym to counteract that atrophy?

I don't know; but it's an interesting experiment we're doing on ourselves, and I'm in the "control" group that doesn't use this technology.

oh great another web app (1)

Peganthyrus (713645) | about a year and a half ago | (#43228713)

Wonder if there'll ever be native clients for anything besides Android. I'm not even going to begin to think of touching this until there are - I really love that Evernote isn't stuck in my browser.

Also, yeah, not sure I trust Google to not abandon this like they did Reader or Wave. And not so hot on importing two and a half years of notes into Google, either.

Remember Google Notepad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43228995)

1. Make product
2. Users like product
3. users hate when it is taken away
5. step 4 is secret
7. maek new product to replace old one
8. blogosphere rejoices at new product
9. ??????
11. PROFIT

Sarifice Privacy (1)

rbrightwell (932570) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229035)

Google's mission seems to be to gather data on everything about everything (and everyone). Gmail is never deleted. Why would I give them all my notes? I trust Evernote with my privacy more.

Re:Sarifice Privacy (1)

geekoid (135745) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229151)

Seems to be? It's Google stated goal. Make everything searchable.

And I am fine with that.
And Google has been a great where privacy is concerned.

I looo forward to this (1)

geekoid (135745) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229135)

being incredibly helpful, intuitive and easy. I also look forward to it being canceled about a year after I depend on it.

So .... (1)

tgd (2822) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229225)

Its OneNote Online.

With 10% of the features.

And they scan my notes.

And they'll probably kill the service in two years.

Yeah. Skip.

Re:So .... (1)

reverius (471142) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229473)

OneNote is already online, through SkyDrive: http://skydrive.com/ [skydrive.com] The native OneNote clients for various devices already talk to the SkyDrive cloud service and store your notebook(s) there by default, as far as I can tell.

Smaller companies more reliable (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229285)

So I could go with Google who are making this product as a half-cocked side thought. Or go with a company with a solid track record whose companies lifeblood is this type of software - and nothing else.

Google will cancel the product in one year and Evernote will be continuing to improve theirs - which would you choose.

"A bit hesitant" is one way of putting it (2)

Trashcan Romeo (2675341) | about a year and a half ago | (#43229287)

If Google couldn't find a way to wring enough greenbacks out of Reader, what chance does this have?

Or you can try the following combo (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43229375)

SSH + git + org-mode FTW

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