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Apple Yanks "Sweatshop Themed" Game From App Store

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the games-should-be-cute dept.

Censorship 184

First time accepted submitter danhuby writes "Apple have removed sweatshop-themed game Sweatshop HD by UK developers LittleLoud from their app store citing clause 16.1 — 'Apps that present excessively objectionable or crude content will be rejected.' According to the PocketGamer article, Littleloud's head of games, Simon Parkin, told Pocket Gamer that 'Apple removed Sweatshop from the App Store last month stating that it was uncomfortable selling a game based around the theme of running a sweatshop.'"

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Game Dev Story (3, Insightful)

Akratist (1080775) | about a year and a half ago | (#43234947)

Then how did Game Dev Story get approved??

Re:Game Dev Story (2)

earlzdotnet (2788729) | about a year and a half ago | (#43234983)

Zing! Seriously looks like about the exact same style of game. Next up for x story game, `porn story`. I can see it now...

You're a single mother trying to put your kid through college...

Re:Game Dev Story (5, Insightful)

Nerdfest (867930) | about a year and a half ago | (#43234989)

It was probably fine until someone noticed that it was very much like a Foxconn facility. The "objectionable" in their approval terms is pretty loose and doesn't mention who the app has to be "objectionable" to.

Re:Game Dev Story (2)

ILongForDarkness (1134931) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235347)

Couldn't they then just say it is a training program?

Re:Game Dev Story (5, Funny)

mabhatter654 (561290) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235991)

But then its competing directly with an Apple "product".

Re:Game Dev Story (4, Funny)

bhagwad (1426855) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235525)

No biggie. The developer can just offer it for download on their site like Adblock is doing after Google kicked them from their Play store.

Oh wait...

Port it to the Mac (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235975)

How hard would it be to port the game to the Mac and offer it for download?

Apple (5, Funny)

bradgoodman (964302) | about a year and a half ago | (#43234965)

What, so only APPLE is allowed to run a sweatshop?

Re:Apple (1)

emagery (914122) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235009)

Yeah, seems a bit two-faced, huh? To be fair, Apple has the strictest pro-labor requirements of places like Foxconn out of all of Foxconn's clients... but they're still terribly lax and sweat-shoppy. I think they are more concerned with people making this kind of connection than 'objectional content,' seeing as how violence in games (while not as controversial as many claim) could just as easily be considered far more 'uncomfortable' a reality to confront than sweatshops.

Re:Apple (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235115)

Yeah, requirements of FoxConn. Not FoxConn's subcontractors.

Inspectors go in, FoxConn guy says "Oh no, these are workers of PhantomCorp, not our employees" and the Inspector goes the other way.

PS, Angry Birds smashing pigs? That makes me uncomfortable! Very uncomfortable!

Re:Apple (2, Insightful)

Dishevel (1105119) | about a year and a half ago | (#43236091)

Killing people is less offensive to Apple than not paying people enough.

Re:Apple (5, Insightful)

_xeno_ (155264) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235211)

What, so only APPLE is allowed to run a sweatshop?

No, no, no. Apple doesn't run any sweatshops.

They contract that out. That way, they can be shocked - shocked! - to learn that their third party contractors are running sweatshops and hiring children. Plus they can "drop" the manufacturers who hire children, just to rehire them under a different name when people stop paying attention.

Plus, Apple's contractors have the best suicide-prevention nets in the industry! Who needs "livable working conditions" when you have suicide prevention nets?

Re:Apple (1)

coniferous (1058330) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235623)

Same thing happens here too. Big telcos hire out the installations to contractors (usually lowest bid) then dump them when the smallest thing happens.

Re:Apple (3, Informative)

Tx (96709) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235521)

They probably have a patent on it.

Re:Apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235675)

Part of the developer terms and conditions are you cannot produce apps that compete with Apple's core functionality.

Re:Apple (1)

SilentStaid (1474575) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235903)

What, so only APPLE is allowed to run a sweatshop?

I think that this is obviously just Apple getting too big and attempting to throw its weight around to reduce competition. Of course, I could just be comparing Apple$ to Oranges... or Micro$oft.

They blocked my HOST file from the app store too (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43234975)

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

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Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

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I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputation as a professional in this field clearly shows in multiple publications in this field in written print, & also online in various GOOD capacities since 1996 to present day. This has happened since I was first published in Playgirl Magazine in 1996 & others to present day, with helpful tools online in programs, & professionally sold warez that were finalists @ Westminster Dog Show 2000-2002.

Did you see the movie "Pokemon"? Actually the induced night "dream world" is synonymous with the academic religious induced "HOSTS file" enslavement of DNS. Domains have no inherent value, as it was invented as a counterfeit and fictitious value to represent natural values in name resolution. Unfortunately, human values have declined to fictitious word values. Unknowingly, you are living in a "World Wide Web", as in a fictitious life in a counterfeit Internet - which you could consider APK induced "HOSTS file". Can you distinguish the academic induced root server from the natural OpenDNS? Beware of the change when your brain is free from HOSTS file enslavement - for you could find that the natural Slashdot has been destroyed!!

FROM -> Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

So long nummynuts, sorry to have to kick your nuts up into your head verbally speaking.

cower in my shadow some more, feeb. you're completely pathetic.

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Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words!

That's the kind of martial arts I practice.

Block this dick from posting (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235039)

Seriously slashdot. Can't you just do a simple text match to block this post from ever showing again?

Re:Block this dick from posting (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235319)

Censorship ain't cool, man! No matter what.

Re:Block this dick from posting (1)

Howitzer86 (964585) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235397)

This isn't Reddit.

Re:Block this dick from posting (2)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235541)

You say that like it a bad thing. Doesn't matter. Censorship is bad... I am quite capable of filtering what I see myself. And I don't care if the mods disagree.

Re:Block this dick from posting (4, Interesting)

DrXym (126579) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235671)

There is a difference between censorship and moderation. I see no issue with slashdot insta-modding particular kinds of post down to -1, without requiring human mods to do it, e.g. anything linking to goatsex for example or posts with certain keywords that appear within 30 minutes of a story going live.

They could even rank it down to a -2 which is only visible to the randomly designated mods so they can rescue posts that end up there without subjecting everyone else to that shit.

Moderation in moderation (0)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235797)

slashdot insta-modding [...] anything linking to goatsex

Not necessarily. Assuming that by "goatsex" you mean Goatse.cx and its modern-day mirrors, Google goatse on-topic site:slashdot.org pulls up a whole bunch of cases where such robo-moderation wouldn't be helpful. Most rules about moderation and such have exceptions [wikipedia.org] to make them work more smoothly, and Apple appears to have missed some needed exceptions in its App Store Review Guidelines.

Re:Moderation in moderation (1)

DrXym (126579) | about a year and a half ago | (#43236095)

That's why I suggested In the extremely unlikely event that the link was relevant to the thread, it could be rescued by designated moderators. Same goes for the usual racist dross that mods find themselves marking down on every new story. Why bother requiring intervention - just get rank it down and let a mod rescue it if and only if it was somehow relevant.

Re:Block this dick from posting (0)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#43236235)

They could even rank it down to a -2 which is only visible to the randomly designated mods...

That would also be unacceptable. I'll do the filtering at my end, if you don't mind.

Re:Block this dick from posting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235489)

bawwwwwwww.

As if it takes you more than a few seconds to scroll past it once you see the first few words.

Re:Block this dick from posting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235587)

(not the poster) Think of it akin to insecticide. Sure it smells bad! But it keeps some of the flies away. Keep scrolling: the mods will handle it.

Re:Block this dick from posting (3, Insightful)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235687)

There is a perfectly workable system already in place that relies on, rather than centralised censorship, crowd-sourced moderation. Unfortunately, it's ruined by chumps who reply to to the trolls, thus bringing otherwise rapidly hidden posts to the attention of all and sundry.

Asking for it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43234987)

Its all about naming. If FarmVille was called Southern Plantation Simulator and you grew tobacco and cotton in the early 1800's it would have gotten canned too, for multiple reasons.

Re:Asking for it (2)

tech.kyle (2800087) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235111)

Not if it's so popular, it makes people want to buy your phone even more. If millions of people loved "Sweatshop HD", Apple would conveniently forget their clause. Rule of Acquisition number 202. The justification for profit is profit.

Re:Asking for it (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235359)

And FoxConn uses rule #189.

Re:Asking for it (1)

Meyaht (2729603) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235829)

google is no help with rule #189... unless it has to do with sleeping in... which i somehow doubt. Please explain?

Re:Asking for it (2)

mcneely.mike (927221) | about a year and a half ago | (#43236163)

google 'rules of acquisition'
Rule #189: Let others keep their reputation. You keep their money.

yay (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43234991)

Yet continue to use foreign sweatshops :/

The definition of PC (5, Insightful)

LordKaT (619540) | about a year and a half ago | (#43234995)

If it makes you feel uncomfortable, force people to stop talking about it. The definition of political correctness!

Re:The definition of PC (4, Insightful)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235299)

It's not really though. The original intent of political correctness was to provide a way for people to be self-critical about the subtle biases that they engage in when they speak.

When you say "black" as a description of someone, for example, your description carries with it connotations that aren't necessarily true, especially since in western culture the word black is historically associated with evil(i.e. black magic, black death, black mark, blacklist, etc.). Political correctness has never been legally forced on anyone, and it's a straw-man to call it "forcing" people to do things. The social judgement people get for failing to be politically correct is no different than the judgement that people get for being rude.

I won't say political correctness has never been about people being offended, because many people invoking the concept have as poor an understanding of it as you do, but that's not the point.

Re:The definition of PC (1)

malkavian (9512) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235417)

The problem being that many of the people invoking it, and not having a real understanding of it, manage to get other people in court and charged with offenses anyway.

Re:The definition of PC (2)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235545)

[citation needed]

No really. That seems like the sort of thing that, in the U.S. might just happen to have a constitutional limitation that the courts might just invoke. I'd love to see a court case where a judge ruled that "non-PC" speech was somehow a violation of a federal or state statute.

I'm not saying it wouldn't ever be brought up in court: It could be relevant character evidence in another crime, so I'm not looking for examples of that, but of any sort of standing conviction that isn't completely made up.

Re:The definition of PC (1, Insightful)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235611)

It's strange how so many liberal movements get marginalized by such straw-man tactics, but conservative movements don't. Feminism, global warming, PC speech, socialism, environmentalism, the occupy movement. All become dirty words to what seems like most of the country. Yet the tea-party movement being labeled as racist is about the only similar effect I can think of going the other way, and that had limited traction.

I wonder why that is. I'm tempted to chalk it up to a Bertrand Russel quote: "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." But that would probably be hypocritical.

Re:The definition of PC (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235763)

Yet the tea-party movement being labeled as racist is about the only similar effect I can think of going the other way, and that had limited traction.

Teabaggers what what?

Re:The definition of PC (4, Insightful)

garett_spencley (193892) | about a year and a half ago | (#43236219)

Any time you have a movement or an ideology that affects people who don't share that ideology you see outrage. That outrage often comes with straw-man tactics used in discourse.

I can think of many examples of so-called "right wing" or "conservative" ideologies that are on the receiving end. The "pro-life" movement is one example. To most who are "pro-life" the issue that is that life begins at conception and so an abortion is literally murder. But many on the "pro-choice" side have accused the "pro-life" crowd of hating women and wanting to enslave them. That's a very blatant straw-man argument from my point of view. And FWIW, I'm probably more "pro-choice" than most.

Fiscal conservatism receives straw-man arguments all the time. Whenever people accuse a fiscal conservative of being "on the side of the wealthy" or "greedy", whenever someone claims that libertarianism is "anarchy for rich people" those are straw-men arguments.

Re:The definition of PC (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year and a half ago | (#43236279)

You make a very good point about abortion, that definitely would have been a much stronger of it happening to the right than the tea-party.

Financial conservatism on the other hand, there are straw men against it, but that hasn't hampered it in the least. I'm saying the left seems paralyzed by them, while the right shakes them off, not that people don't make straw men against everything they oppose.

Re:The definition of PC (2)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a year and a half ago | (#43236075)

the word black is historically associated with evil

It's also been associated with entirely neutral things, such as the colour black, a surname, the name of a particular type of shrubby tree (blackthorn), certain fruits (blackcurrant, bleckberry), working with iron (blacksmith), certain birds (blackbird) and so on. And it's also been associated with good: the traditional choice of colour for the clergy is black robes.

Re:The definition of PC (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235355)

Doesn't apply, we are talking about Macs here.

iOS App Store, not Mac App Store (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235681)

-- I'm a Mac.
-- And I'm a PC.

The article claims that it was an iPad game on the iOS App Store, not a Mac game on the Mac App Store. The only connection with Macs is that a Mac was used to build and submit it.

Re:iOS App Store, not Mac App Store (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43236241)

rofl

Pal, Ipads are made by Apple.

Anything made by Apple can be referred to as "A Mac."

Re:iOS App Store, not Mac App Store (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43236367)

are you trolling? obviously that's not true; macintosh is their line of computers that run the full version of os x.

Thinking??? (5, Funny)

Carnivore24 (467239) | about a year and a half ago | (#43234997)

"challenged people to think about the origin of the clothes we buy" Challenging people to think is one of the main things an Apple user is not allowed to do. Makes sense if you think about it.

Re:Thinking??? (1)

clemdoc (624639) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235165)

replying to undo"overrated" mod. should've been "funny".

Re:Thinking??? (1)

ninlilizi (2759613) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235723)

Makes perfect sense.
Today they're thinking about the origin of their clothes. Tomorrow, their gadgets. Next week there OS and interface paradigms.

They didn't grant copyrights for a biography sim (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235019)

Apple didn't grant them permission to create a simulator on how apple works so it was easier to just toss the app out before suing them for infringing their history. I'm also sure there were rounded corners somewhere in the app.

Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235027)

Well, you developed for a platform where all the money you spent can be for nought at the whim of some spotty face Apple reviewer.

You wouldn't put your companies future at the whim of some unstated rules, interpreted by spotty faced youths, yet you develop for iOS?

More fool you.

People with a collection of paid iOS apps (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235485)

You wouldn't put your companies future at the whim of some unstated rules, interpreted by spotty faced youths, yet you develop for iOS?

A lot of companies develop for video game consoles, whose policies are even stricter than Apple's, simply because video game consoles are the only popular devices for video gaming with multiple gamepads and a large monitor. I'm told set-top PCs are nowhere near popular enough to attract major developer attention.

I'll admit that this isn't quite as true of the iPhone and iPad as it is for consoles, but for three years, Apple's iPod touch had a monopoly on PDAs (3 to 5 inch Wi-Fi-only tablets). Until the fourth quarter of 2011, when Samsung finally brought out the Galaxy Player, one couldn't easily buy an Android device of that size without paying for a voice data plan. During that time, a lot of iPod touch owners bought iOS apps, and the fact that they can bring those apps with them to new iDevices that they buy leads them to choose other iDevices over Android devices. So the only way to reach users with a sizable collection of paid-for iOS apps is to develop for iOS.

Re:Android (4, Interesting)

PyroMosh (287149) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235557)

While I agree with you in principal (the ability to run whatever I wish is one of the reasons I use Android and avoid iOS myself), in practice, what you describe is the same on both platforms.

If I'm selling a commercial app, even on Android, the built-in store is more or less the only avenue to making money. Google's store has rules [google.com] just like Apple's does.

Sure I can sell through Amazon or some of the other third parties instead. But this obviously greatly diminishes my potential market (and they will likely have similar rules too). What percent of Android users ever install a third party store? What percent are even aware they can do so?

If you're talking about commercially selling software to sideload, the problem is even worse. Most users have no idea this is possible. So in effect, if you're investing a lot of money into a project and Google says "no", the results aren't much different from Apple saying "no".

Ironic End (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235057)

Its too bad the Irony is lost with Apple Inc. lol, Sweatshop app, maybe mimics the company a little too much for their own taste.

cant have a game based on the core business.. (1)

who_stole_my_kidneys (1956012) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235059)

if its so easy, it might produce competitors.

That's what makes them uncomfortable? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235061)

I should think the objectionable thing would be the existence of those sweatshops. It's apparently just talking about them that is offensive? If we just look the other way and pretend they don't exist, then everything is peachy?

Re:That's what makes them uncomfortable? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43236351)

I should think the objectionable thing would be the existence of those sweatshops. It's apparently just talking about them that is offensive? If we just look the other way and pretend they don't exist, then everything is peachy?

I doubt Apple actually cares about the app simulating a sweatshop. The summary said the app was "pulled" not "rejected" which implied that it was originally approved and later taken down. If that's the case it was probably taken down in response to Apple receiving complaints about it's content from some busy-body "protect the children" nut job.

If the app was actually rejected (and never posted) that's a little bit different, and potentially a symptom of a problem in Apple's review process. Since the reviews are done by people, and there's little room for appeal.

Wrong reason for rejection... real reason.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235069)

I am surprised they didn't state the reason as the app simulates functionality already in the Apple eco system. They probably have a patent on using cheap chinese labor to do their bidding ;). The App would then compete with apple's core functionality ;).

Seattle Rex said it best (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235151)

"Increasingly, Apple is not for doâ(TM)ers. It is not for power users. It is not for creators. It is not for people who think different. It is for posers. It is for hipsters. It is for metrosexuals. It is for wannabes and pretenders."

Oooh, I know a game... (4, Funny)

digitalhermit (113459) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235213)

This game will be called "Patent War"...
The object is to collect as many patents growing around the landscape stuff them in your pocket. The more patents you collect, the better are your chances against the Innovation Monster. Defeat the Innovation Monster and collect Gold Coins. Use the Gold Coins to buy Senators who can help build fences to keep the Innovation Monster away. Once you level up, defeat the Consumer Rights Beast and collect even more Gold Coins and even the Vorpal DRM which can stave off the Indie Media Goblin and the DIY Music Devil.

fuck apple and their shitty products (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235223)

and Steve Jobs was no genius just a fucking guy who applied technology

Re:fuck apple and their shitty products (2)

geminidomino (614729) | about a year and a half ago | (#43236023)

Let's be fair.

He was "just a fucking guy who marketed technology to the mundanes."

And the truth is that he was a genius at that. No, he wasn't "innovative", he sure as hell wasn't "a visionary," but he did succeed at selling what were "geek toys" to hipsters, who are always willing to pay a premium.

MP3s, tablets, smartphones: they were all around long before Apple made its "contributions" to the market[0] , and usually done better, but they never got sold to the "Any Key" crowd.

So let the Followers of Jobs have their worship. Even if they are just worshiping a marketroid, he was a good one.

[0]Newton was an exception, in that it was very, very much a geek toy and was a flop.

Typical (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235239)

Kill hundreds of thousands of virtual people in videogames? No prob! Force them to work in a sweatshop? That makes me a little uncomfortable.

Walled Garden (5, Insightful)

stevegee58 (1179505) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235253)

Welcome to the walled garden where everything is beautiful inside and you're protected from the ugly outside world (by the gardener's definition).

Re:Walled Garden (1)

Sprouticus (1503545) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235537)

Wish I had some Karma.

Re:Walled Garden (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235555)

Looks like fun - port to Android and I'll buy.

Re:Walled Garden (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235581)

Welcome to the walled garden where everything is beautiful inside and you're protected from the ugly outside world (by the gardener's definition).

Not forgetting the invisible staff that make that garden are forced to live in poverty while you luxuriate in their efforts, and that the land owner milks you dry while feeding your fashion ego.

Re:Walled Garden (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235887)

When you go on vacation, do you stay in the slum area(s)? Ha!

so... sweatshop = bad, killing = good? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235259)

Apple should also ban all FPS and other games involving wars and killing people. Clearly killing people is highly objectionable.

Re:so... sweatshop = bad, killing = good? (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235487)

Clearly killing people is highly objectionable.

Not when you can make money from it.

Confidential guidelines (5, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235501)

A leaked version of the App Store Review Guidelines already contains a ban on realistic violence.

But the real problem with the App Store Review Guidelines is that they're confidential, intended only for current developers, not for prospective developers. Say someone has been developing applications for PCs and Android devices as a hobby, and he wants to try developing a few applications for the iPhone or iPad. Before he spends over $1,000 on a Mac, an iPad, and a developer license, how can he be sure that Apple won't reject his applications' concepts?

Product Development is full of risk. (2)

Roogna (9643) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235659)

No amount of money (And $1k is nothing when talking product development), guarantees returns. So in this case, Apple rejecting the concepts is just another risk to add onto the list.

If it's the straw that breaks the camel's back, then pick a different platform to develop the concept for. Except every other platform carries it's own risks and benefits.

Adding this artificial risk (2)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235839)

So in this case, Apple rejecting the concepts is just another risk to add onto the list.

How does adding this artificial risk benefit Apple in a way that just publishing the Guidelines does not?

They should have replaced the people with furries (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235281)

Having squirrels processing nuts in a treehouse sweatshop would have been way less objectionable.

content censorship needs to go befor the law comes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235301)

content censorship needs to go before the law comes in bans all app store lock in.

PlantationVille still a go (2)

theurge14 (820596) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235325)

What could possibly go wrong?

Tapper? (1)

FlopEJoe (784551) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235343)

What about the Tapper game that's been around since the dawn of time where you have to frantically serve drinks to increasingly fast and angry patrons. Or the waitress game. Or any stressful job situation. Heck I think it's cruel to throw birds at pigs' houses.

Re:Tapper? (3, Interesting)

vux984 (928602) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235747)

What about the Tapper game that's been around since the dawn of time ...

You do realize Tapper was reworked to use Root Beer in most of its iterations including a version for Arcades, the version for Coleco and Atari, and even the version on Xbox Live all are "Rootbeer Tapper"... even the Tapper scene in "Wreck it Ralph"; looks like the original Tapper game, but the Bud logo is not present, and you can clearly hear a patron interrupt Tapper to order a Root Beer.

Probably not the best example.

Re:Tapper? (1)

Riceballsan (816702) | about a year and a half ago | (#43236033)

I don't believe any part of the post was about alcohol being objectionable material. Rather people working too hard for too little pay. (IE what is going on in a sweat shop). Now my opinion of the topic... it's pretty simple, apple hasn't been participating in the food service industry, so making their jobs look bad, isn't offensive to the ghost of Steve Jobs. Meanwhile Apple has indeed gotten media spotlight numerous times for the fact that they are part of the insanity that is the chinese manufacturing industry.

Re:Tapper? (1)

vux984 (928602) | about a year and a half ago | (#43236269)

Rather people working too hard for too little pay.

Hmm.. you are probably right.

And in that line of thought its particularly ironic, as the game was originally made to be played in bars, and was sponsored by Budweiser. Clearly that industry had no qualms about poking a little fun at itself.

The only controversy Tapper ever had was when it made its way to more child friendly arcades and the alcohol theme became an issue.

there is a root beer version of that game. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43236353)

there is a root beer version of that game.

Too close to home. (5, Insightful)

Culture20 (968837) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235375)

Seriously, a game called "5 minutes to kill yourself" (and the wedding day edition) is okay, but a game where you run a sweatshop isn't? I'm guessing the top tier goal of the sweatshop game had the workers building iGlasses for an unnamed American corporation.

Seriously... (1)

Waveguide04 (811184) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235391)

I get what the Apps Store is. Its a clearing house for Apps that makes it, in theory, easier for content providers to get their apps out there and earning then and Apple money. I also get how Apple would want to control the stability, code quality, etc of what they publish there, _however_, no where does the concept of an app store imply nor mandate that they also become the Morality Police for a content outlet. That's insane. I like Apple and their products, but I didn't sign on for them to be my moral compass. If there is something on there I don't like then the solution is simple people.. Don't freaking buy it! Sheesh.

Like the German gov trying to ban child porn sites (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235457)

Not child porn and its makers itself. Only sweeping it under the rug, so people don't see it anymore. Giving those makers additional secrecy and protection, so they can continue. While we all are paying with it with the introduction of a centralized system of totalitarian censorship.

Now if the government would also *run* a large, organized child rape and porn ring, that would be a perfect analogy for what Apple is doing here.

Wait! (-1, Troll)

whisper_jeff (680366) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235483)

Wait! So Apple is enforcing their rules which they've openly and clearly published and that they hold all developers to?

Those bastards! /yawn_at_the_non-story...

When the rules are paywalled (2)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235605)

So Apple is enforcing their rules which they've openly and clearly published

When I tried to view the rules on Apple.com, it asked me to log in with an Apple ID. Where should a prospective developer view these rules before spending four figures on a Mac, an iPad, and a developer license?

Re:When the rules are paywalled (3, Informative)

rvw (755107) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235651)

So Apple is enforcing their rules which they've openly and clearly published

When I tried to view the rules on Apple.com, it asked me to log in with an Apple ID. Where should a prospective developer view these rules before spending four figures on a Mac, an iPad, and a developer license?

You can create your apple id for free, without using an ipad or mac.

Re:When the rules are paywalled (1, Insightful)

coinreturn (617535) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235927)

So Apple is enforcing their rules which they've openly and clearly published

When I tried to view the rules on Apple.com, it asked me to log in with an Apple ID. Where should a prospective developer view these rules before spending four figures on a Mac, an iPad, and a developer license?

You can create your apple id for free, without using an ipad or mac.

But, but, how can one bash Apple, then?

Having a free Apple ID is not enough (3, Informative)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235955)

You can create your apple id for free

I just logged in with my Apple ID, and it told me "Sorry, you cannot access this page. The Apple ID you signed in with does not have permission to view this page."

Re:Having a free Apple ID is not enough (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43236273)

You have to spend $99 for a dev licence ( which you get through iTunes on your shiny MacBook; +$3000).

Re:Wait! (1)

DRJlaw (946416) | about a year and a half ago | (#43236303)

Wait! So Apple is enforcing their rules which they've openly and clearly published and that they hold all developers to?

Those bastards! /yawn_at_the_non-story...

Yes! So long as you openly and clearly publish your rules and hold everyone to them, your rules are above criticism!

That's why I openly and clearly publish that anyone entering my house will be bitchslapped if they present excessively objectionable or crude content. No more pesky assault and battery claims when I arbitrarily decide what is excessively objectionable and crude.

Easy fix for the developers (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235621)

Just turn the barbed wire to angle OUTWARD.

iPhone 6 has airco (2)

rvw (755107) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235627)

Just got confirmation that the iPhone 6 has airco built in. So sweat is no longer an option and will be banned from the Appstore.

Uncomfortable my ass (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43235755)

Apple and all the other major hardware and software companies all have products assembled at Foxconn which is the most advanced sweatshop in and of itself and its been going on for years... but hell no mention it to a apple fanatic in the USA especially San Fransisco and they will look at you funny.

Streisand Effect (4, Insightful)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235897)

Never heard of Sweatshop HD before this...

Now I MUST PLAY IT!!!!

Good work, Apple, the dev couldn't pay for this kind of publicity.

Simply rename the App! (5, Funny)

HycoWhit (833923) | about a year and a half ago | (#43235987)

Sweatshop HD is such a crude and offensive name. The game simply needs to be renamed: Foxconn Fun or iFactory, maybe Making Apples...

Man that stinks!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43236051)

Our IEs were using the game to model our operations!!!

FU_pple (1)

AndyKron (937105) | about a year and a half ago | (#43236271)

And yet assholes all over the world keep supporting FU_pple.
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