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Google Keep Labelled "Delete"

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the but-google-iterates dept.

Google 221

judgecorp writes "The Google Keep note-keeping app has had a frosty reception. Analysts including Gartner have said its functionality is laughable compared to that of the rival Evernote (saying "it's like saying MSFT Paint is a threat to Photoshop") and other users have rejected it on the grounds that after the death sentence on Reader, Google can't be trusted not to pull the plug on a service which people have come to rely on."

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Oh shit!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43237981)

this is groundbreaking stuff guys.. that matters!

Re:Oh shit!!! (-1, Flamebait)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238147)

This post was up seven minutes before AC trolls had eight off-topic posts on it.

Someone is certainly working very hard to steer the conversation off track whenever google is the topic. I guess everyone has to have hobbies.

Re:Oh shit!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238165)

I want to conduct a grand experiment by poking your bare asshole with my magic finger exactly 1 trillion times. What say you?

Re:Oh shit!!! (1)

Neuroelectronic (643221) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238433)

If you think it's bad here, you should see reddit. "Opinion setting" at it's most caustic and depraved state.

Re:Oh shit!!! (5, Interesting)

hairyfeet (841228) | about a year and a half ago | (#43239441)

That is what I call "the batshit brigade" as these people treat corps like fucking ballclubs. I've noticed its primarily the big three, Apple, Google, and MSFT, but to a lesser extent you get the pro *.A.A "Anything a corp does is great because free market herpa derp!" and the pro gov "America Fuck Yeah!" types but not nearly as bad as the big three, you'd think they were a fucking ballclub.

Now as far as Google...why SHOULD you trust them for a service you depend on after Reader? Its quite obvious there is a metric that if a service doesn't hit Google pulls the plug but they won't tell the user what the metric is, so why should I trust them? As much as I think Windows 8 is a flaming turd this is one thing I have to give MSFT credit for as I can tell you to the day when XP dies, when Vista dies, when 7 dies, and when their Office suites die so I really don't have to give a shit about the metrics. I just look at the date of EOL and that is that. Of course since their software works just fine after EOL (I should know as i had to support several Win2K units until last year) I don't even have to worry about that if I don't want to, but its nice to know.

If Google wants us to depend on their services then they need to give us SOMETHING, anything, that will let us gauge what the support cycle is gonna be. A minimum support date like MSFT, publishing the current userbase along with the minimum number required for them to support it (which would have fixed the Reader problem as those that like Reader could have tried to drum up enough converts to fulfil the metric) or some other gauge so we have a damned clue as to how long its gonna be supported. As it is any service they have could disappear tomorrow because some PHB decides it doesn't meet a metric which we don't even know about and that stinks.

delete? (4, Insightful)

jaymz666 (34050) | about a year and a half ago | (#43237997)

Maybe an extra l there?

My first thought was "how can I trust them with this when they just killed reader?"

Re:delete? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238087)

Nope, that is the correct spelling for labelled.

Re:delete? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238217)

that's right... even though this is a US website, US spelling is incorrect.

labeled is the correct spelling in the US.
http://grammarist.com/spelling/label/

Re:delete? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238635)

The correct spelling for "grammer" is "grammer" but "grammer" isn't the correct spelling for "grammar".

Re:delete? (5, Insightful)

ALeader71 (687693) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238321)

Agreed. If this doesn't take off, it may be a short lived service. I'll stick with Evernote.

Re:delete? (4, Insightful)

jaymz666 (34050) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238485)

Exactly, I will stick with the company that has their whole business model based in note taking and similar services.

Re:delete? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238493)

Google Keep does not affect your data even if Google would clean it off.

Why? Because Google Keep is tied to Google Drive where it store notes. And they are just text, image and sound files. Nothing radical would not happen if you couldn't use Google Keep anymore.

Google Reader does not kill RSS. There are plenty of RSS readers out there. Now it only demands that you need to sync readed/unreaded in different way but all the RSS feeds can be imported and exported to almost any reader. There is no such problem with Google Reader cleaned off.

Media is talking about Google Reader as it kills RSS from WWW.

Re:delete? (4, Insightful)

gmuslera (3436) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238773)

Killing Reader didn't kill RSS. But killed all the ecosystem around it, both from apps and for the way you used it. Why i should do an alternative app that makes use of Keep if they could end it tomorrow? Why i use it to store notes if they could not be there tomorrow, and all that that was put there because that particular way of access is not there anymore?

In any case, either with Drive or Takeout, you don't lose your data, but it lose a part of its value without the "right" way to access it, all of it. A bit more "bening" shutdown was Wave [wikipedia.org] , that if well was discontinued but open sourced the server so you can continue using it in the same way elsewhere.

Re:delete? (5, Insightful)

larry bagina (561269) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238775)

Reader didn't kill RSS but it killed and stifled development of other RSS readers over the past 7 years.

Re:delete? (5, Insightful)

QAPete (717838) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238613)

Exactly. First iGoogle, then Reader, two user-friendly, very efficient ways of getting stuff I want to see in front of my beady eyes. Google kills them both, and is constantly begging / pushing me to use Google +, which I have absolutely no wish to use. Both iGoogle and Reader were great examples of things Google did very well. Now they are putting their resources into things that OTHER companies do very well, like Google + and Google Keep.

I have ties to Gmail I need for now, but beyond that I'm not getting involved in Google anything.

Re:delete? (1)

jamoca (2596235) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238857)

And before that it was Buzz. I can still access my posts and pictures I shared with family in Buzz but for all practical purposes they are lost.

Re: delete? (4, Interesting)

Tometheus (1141431) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238757)

And my first thought was "how can I trust them with this when they killed G Notebook?" Not going to catch me twice with the exact same trick...

Keep and Evernote both unsafe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238839)

"how can I trust them with this when they just killed reader?"

You can't trust any company, especially a company that is providing you with service without charge. The "cloud" is only worshiped by those who blindly follow the hype and refuse to face elementary principles of personal security.

Those who have their eyes open and can think for themselves will store data in multiple places which they own and control, and only use the "cloud" as free encrypted backup, if at all.

I store all my notes inside my HOSTS file (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43237999)

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputation as a professional in this field clearly shows in multiple publications in this field in written print, & also online in various GOOD capacities since 1996 to present day. This has happened since I was first published in Playgirl Magazine in 1996 & others to present day, with helpful tools online in programs, & professionally sold warez that were finalists @ Westminster Dog Show 2000-2002.

INCONTROVERTIBLE FEEDBACK PROVIDING ESTABLISHED PROOF OF ALL MY POINTS:

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That was amazing. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948073 [slashdot.org]

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My, God! It's beatiful. Keep it up, you glorious bastard. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41835161 [slashdot.org]

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Let us bask in its glory. A true modern The Wasteland. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948579 [slashdot.org]

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put your baby IN ME -- I just read this whole thing. Fuck mod points, WHERE DO I SEND YOU MY MONEY?!!! - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40950023 [slashdot.org]

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Oh shit, Time Cube Guy's into computers now... - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946259 [slashdot.org]

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He's done more to discredit the use of HOSTS files than anyone in the "do it right and set up a firewall" crowd ever could. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357 [slashdot.org]

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Can I have some of what you're on? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40947587 [slashdot.org]

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this obnoxious fucknuts [apk] has been trolling the internet and spamming his shit delphi sub-fart app utilities for 15 years. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954565 [slashdot.org]

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oh come on.. this is hilarious. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40955479 [slashdot.org]

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I agree I am intrigued by these host files how do I sign up for your newsletter? - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40961339 [slashdot.org]

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Gimme the program that generates this epic message. I'll buy 5 of your product if you do... - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954251 [slashdot.org]

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As mentioned by another AC up there, the troll in question is actually a pretty well-executed mashup of APK's style - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357 [slashdot.org]

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It's actually a very clever parody of APK - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40944229 [slashdot.org]

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Please keep us updated on your AI research, you seem quite good at it. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40944603 [slashdot.org]

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$20,000 to anyone providing proof of Alexander Peter Kowalski's death. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958289 [slashdot.org]

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Obviously, it must be Alexander Peter Kowalski. He's miffed at all these imposters... - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958429 [slashdot.org]

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And here I was thinking I was having a bad experience with a Dr. Bronner's bottle. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952247 [slashdot.org]

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Damn, apk, who the fuck did you piss off this time? Hahahahaahahahahahahaahaha. Pass the popcorn as the troll apk gets pwned relentlessly. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954673 [slashdot.org]

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I think it's the Internet, about to become sentient. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40956187 [slashdot.org]

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Does anyone know if OpenGL has been ported to Windows yet? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956781 [slashdot.org]

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golfclap - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40900827 [slashdot.org]

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The Truth! wants to be Known! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897389 [slashdot.org]

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DNS cube? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897493 [slashdot.org]

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KUDOS valiant AC. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897777 [slashdot.org]

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Polyploid lovechild of APK, MyCleanPC, and Time Cube --> fail counter integer overflow --> maximum win! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40899171 [slashdot.org]

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You made my day, thanks! - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029589&cid=40896469 [slashdot.org]

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Wow. The perfect mix of trolls. Timecube, mycleanpc, gnaa, apk... this is great! - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3027333&cid=40893381 [slashdot.org]

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truer words were never spoken as /. trolls are struck speechless by it, lol! - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=41041795 [slashdot.org]

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It's APK himself trying to maintain the illusion that he's still relevant. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967209 [slashdot.org]

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Mod this up. The back and forth multi posting between APK and this "anti-APK" certainly does look like APK talking to himself. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40969175 [slashdot.org]

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APK himself would be at the top of a sensible person's ban list. He's been spamming and trolling Slashdot for years. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967137 [slashdot.org]

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You got that right. I think. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3044971&cid=40972239 [slashdot.org]

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Michael Kristopeit, is that you? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3045075&cid=40972377 [slashdot.org]

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ROFL! :) (Now the sick bastard will follow me again) - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41429251 [slashdot.org]

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I miss Dr Bob. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432027 [slashdot.org]

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Not sure if actually crazy, or just pretending to be crazy. Awesome troll either way. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432951 [slashdot.org]

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Awesome! Hat off to you, sir! - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41509273 [slashdot.org]

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That isn't a parody of Time-cube, it is an effort to counter-troll a prolific poster named APK, who seems like a troll himself, although is way too easy to troll into wasting massive amounts of time on BS not far from the exaggerations above - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41514107 [slashdot.org]

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I am intrigued and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3164403&cid=41555345 [slashdot.org]

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1. You philistine, that is Art . Kudos to you, valiant troll on your glorious FP - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832599 [slashdot.org]

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What? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832673 [slashdot.org]

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I don't know if it is poorly-thought-out, but it is demented because it is at the same time an APK parody. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832905 [slashdot.org]

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It is in fact an extremely well thought out and brilliantly executed APK parody, combined with a Time Cube parody, and with a sprinkling of the MyCleanPC spam. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41841251 [slashdot.org]

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er... many people have disproved your points about hosts files with well reasoned, factual arguments. You just chose not to listen and made it into some kind of bizarre crusade. And I'm not the timecube guy, just someone else who finds you intensely obnoxious and likes winding you up to waste your time. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41843313 [slashdot.org]

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performance art - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847089 [slashdot.org]

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it's apk, theres no reason to care. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847097 [slashdot.org]

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Seems more like an apk parody. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847661 [slashdot.org]

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That's great but what about the risk of subluxations? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847101 [slashdot.org]

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Oh, come on. Just stand back and look at it. It's almost art, in a Jackson Pollock sort of way. - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41868923 [slashdot.org]

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Read carefully. This is a satirical post, that combines the last several years of forum trolling, rolled into one FUNNY rant! - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41864711 [slashdot.org]

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I can has summary? - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41861327 [slashdot.org]

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I'd have a lot more sympathy if you would log in as APK again instead of AC. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41868133 [slashdot.org]

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If [apk] made an account, it would be permanently posting at -1, and he'd only be able to post with it twice a day. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41869409 [slashdot.org]

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DAFUQ I just look at? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869085 [slashdot.org]

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Trolls trolling trolls... it's like Inception or something. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869353 [slashdot.org]

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We all know it's you, apk. Stop pretending to antagonize yourself. - http://bsd.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229179&cid=41869305 [slashdot.org]

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Do you know about the shocking connection between APK and arsenic? No? Well, your innocence is about to be destroyed. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3472971&cid=42939965 [slashdot.org]

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Send bug reports to 903 east division street, syracuse, ny 13208 - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3483339&cid=42972783 [slashdot.org]

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Now you've made me all nostalgic for USENET. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42981977 [slashdot.org]

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Google APK Hosts File Manager. He's written a fucking application to manage your hosts file. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42984521 [slashdot.org]

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In case you are not aware, the post is a satire of a fellow known as APK. The grammar used is modeled after APK's as you can see here [thorschrock.com] . Or, you can just look around a bit and see some of his posts on here about the wonders of host files. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42983119 [slashdot.org]

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You are surely of God of Trolls, whomever you are. I have had stupid arguments with and bitten the troll apk many times. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486901&cid=42989683 [slashdot.org]

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"What kind of meds cure schizophrenic drunk rambling?" -> "Whatever APK isn't taking" - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028403 [slashdot.org] http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028425 [slashdot.org]

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I'm confused, is apk trolling himself now? - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43029495 [slashdot.org]

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Excellent mashup. A++. Would troll again. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3503531&cid=43037445 [slashdot.org]

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Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43048291 [slashdot.org]

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Best. Troll. Ever. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43044811 [slashdot.org]

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I like monkeys. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43051505 [slashdot.org]

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This is one of the funniest things I've ever read. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43052263 [slashdot.org]

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lul wut? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3510265&cid=43057839 [slashdot.org]

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I admire this guy's persistence. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063797 [slashdot.org]

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It's a big remix of several different crackpots from Slashdot and elsewhere, plus a liberal sprinkling of famous Slashdot trolls and old memes. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063881 [slashdot.org]

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Tabloid newspapers have speculated for years that APK is a prominent supporter of Monsanto. Too bad we didn't believe them sooner! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063893 [slashdot.org]

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Here's a hint, check out stories like this one [slashdot.org] , where over 200 of the 247 posts are rated zero or -1 because they are either from two stupid trolls arguing endless, or quite likely one troll arguing with himself for attention. The amount of off-topic posts almost outnumber on topic ones by 4 to 1. Posts like the above are popular for trolling APK, since if you say his name three times, he appears, and will almost endlessly feed trolls. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43064383 [slashdot.org]

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I love this copypasta so much. It never fails to make me smile. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3512099&cid=43069271 [slashdot.org]

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^ Champion Mod parent up. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3513659&cid=43067371 [slashdot.org]

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I appreciate the time cube reference, and how you tied it into the story. Well done. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3521721&cid=43094565 [slashdot.org]

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The day you are silenced is the day freedom dies on Slashdot. God bless. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522191&cid=43097221 [slashdot.org]

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AHahahahah thanks for that, cut-n-pasted.... Ownage! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522219&cid=43097215 [slashdot.org]

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Don't hate the player, hate the game. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3526293&cid=43110679 [slashdot.org]

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If you're familiar with APK, the post itself is a pretty damn funny parody. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115215 [slashdot.org]

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">implying it's not apk posting it" --> "I'd seriously doubt he's capable of that level of self-deprecation..." - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115337 [slashdot.org] http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115363 [slashdot.org]

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No, the other posts are linked in a parody of APK's tendency to quote himself, numbnuts. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43116855 [slashdot.org]

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The thirteenth link is broken. Please fix it. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115361 [slashdot.org]

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Just ban any post with "apk", "host file", or "hosts file", as that would take care of the original apk too. The original has been shitposting Slashdot much longer & more intensively than the parody guy. Or ban all Tor exit nodes, as they both use Tor to circumvent IP bans. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216431 [slashdot.org]

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Sadly this is closer to on-topic than an actual APK post is. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216225 [slashdot.org]

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YOU ARE A GOD AMONG MEN. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43236143 [slashdot.org]

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I've butted heads with APK myself, and yeah, the guy's got issues - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569173&cid=43236987 [slashdot.org]

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Can I be in your quote list? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569443&cid=43237531 [slashdot.org]

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Did you see the movie "Pokemon"? Actually the induced night "dream world" is synonymous with the academic religious induced "HOSTS file" enslavement of DNS. Domains have no inherent value, as it was invented as a counterfeit and fictitious value to represent natural values in name resolution. Unfortunately, human values have declined to fictitious word values. Unknowingly, you are living in a "World Wide Web", as in a fictitious life in a counterfeit Internet - which you could consider APK induced "HOSTS file". Can you distinguish the academic induced root server from the natural OpenDNS? Beware of the change when your brain is free from HOSTS file enslavement - for you could find that the natural Slashdot has been destroyed!!

FROM -> Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

So long nummynuts, sorry to have to kick your nuts up into your head verbally speaking.

cower in my shadow some more, feeb. you're completely pathetic.

Disproof of all apk's statements:
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Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words!

P.S.=> That's what makes me LAUGH harder than ANYTHING ELSE on this forums (full of "FUD" spreading trolls) - When you hit trolls with facts & truths they CANNOT disprove validly on computing tech based grounds, this is the result - Applying unjustifiable downmods to effetely & vainly *try* to "hide" my posts & facts/truths they extoll!

Hahaha... lol , man: Happens nearly every single time I post such lists (proving how ineffectual these trolls are), only showing how solid my posts of that nature are...

That's the kind of martial arts I practice.

Re:I store all my notes inside my HOSTS file (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238075)

Jesus, dude. Maybe have the doctor check up on the dosage of whatever pills you're on. You're either taking too much or too little.

Re:I store all my notes inside my HOSTS file (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238177)

Clearly you are not an Intertubes engineer, otherwise the parent post would be more meaningful to you.

Why don't YOU take your meds?

Blog Spam - Move along. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238013)

Don't bother clicking the link.

Yes, we're all mad about reader, and we all should be warned about cloud services shutting down.

Next post please...

Re:Blog Spam - Move along. (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43239115)

What is interesting is that they have angered the bloggers with killing reader. Maybe not a lot of people used reader, but apparently the people that do pimp out new google products to the masses. You can't blame them for having an axe to grind.

Google Fool (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238015)

I propose we now use "google" instead of "fool".

Google me once, shame on you.
Google me twice, shame on me.

Re:Google Fool (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238471)

I propose we now use "google" instead of "fool".

Google me once, shame on you. Google me twice, shame on me.

There's an old saying in Mountain View - I know it's in Redmond, probably in Mountain View - that says, Google me once, shame on - shame on you. Google me - you can't get Googled again.

Re:Google Fool (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238591)

That would be funny if "google" wasn't already a verb (in vernacular)

Well, you know the saying. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238025)

Scroogle me once, shame on you-gle. Scroogle me twice, shame on Google.

Apologies to Kris Straub.

Re:Well, you know the saying. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238111)

You can't use the word scroogle without sounding like the worlds biggest Microsoft shill.

Re:Well, you know the saying. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238223)

MICRO$OFT shill!

FTFY.

MICROTURD shill!

FTFY, again

MICROCRAP shill!

FTFY, a third time.

Get it right if you want your payout, Scroogle apologist.

Re:Well, you know the saying. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238395)

Google doesn't pay *me* you worthless peon. *I* pay it to collect your data. uhah ha Mu Ha HA MU HA HA!

Re:Well, you know the saying. (1)

CODiNE (27417) | about a year and a half ago | (#43239609)

That would have been more believable if you replied with his username or real name.

What the Dickens are you talking about? (0)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238247)

Anonymous Coward wrote:

You can't use the word scroogle without sounding like the worlds biggest Microsoft shill.

That or a fan of A Christmas Carol, whose main character's surname is one letter off from "Scroogle".

Re:What the Dickens are you talking about? (2)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238451)

I've never heard of a character named "Shcroogle".

Re:What the Dickens are you talking about? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238489)

Anonymous Coward wrote:

You can't use the word scroogle without sounding like the worlds biggest Microsoft shill.

That or a fan of A Christmas Carol, whose main character's surname is one letter off from "Scroogle".

The additional L required to typo "Scroogle" from "Scrooge" is clear on the other side of a QWERTY keyboard from the G or E you would need to fat-finger. If you have that fat of fingers to make that typo, being a Microsoft shill is perhaps the LEAST of your problems, for once.

(and for the shut-in smartasses out there: while L and G are closer to each other on a DVORAK keyboard, there are still two keys between them, so this analysis still stands)

When spoken aloud, you would somehow need to accidentally change the G sound in "Scrooge" from a hard G to a soft G, AND add in an extra syllable. That's not likely to happen, barring secret surgical implants or genetic mutation experiments conducted by Microsoft to make this sort of accident easy to make.

So, no matter how you look at it, they're going to be a Microsoft shill if they're using "Scroogle" in standard conversation.

Independently arriving at "Scroogled" (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238739)

The additional L required to typo "Scroogle" from "Scrooge" is clear on the other side of a QWERTY keyboard

That's not what I was trying to imply. One could have arrived at "Google is acting like Scrooge" pun independently from Microsoft's ad campaign that began in November 2012. I just checked Google Search (Search tools > Any time > Custom range) for January 2008 through October 2012, and there were plenty of hits for "Scroogled". Is a short story by Cory Doctorow [blogoscoped.com] enough?

Re:Well, you know the saying. (2)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238815)

Correction - you can't use the word "scroogle" without sounding like someone employed by Microsoft.

The all ighty ollar? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238033)

Clearly someone shorted GOOG this morning.

No? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238039)

Frosty reception? I beg to differ, people all over the internet seem to love it. Design especially.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1aoo1a/google_keep_googles_notetaking_app_is_live_again/
Check this reddit thread.
Also it works with Google Now on Android, so i can say "Google..Note to self Fix the printer" and it will take the note, save the text AND audio file.
I, personally, like it very much. Evernote is good, but something that integrated into android and synced with my Google account is much better for me.

Re:No? (4, Funny)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238065)

Frosty reception? I beg to differ, people all over the internet seem to love it.

Reddit is "all over the Internet"?

The world has become such a sad place.

Re:No? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238167)

This is Slashdot, son.

Re:No? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238349)

Pretty sure reddit was used as a single example amongst many. The reception on G+ has been similarly warm. Probably not as enthusiastic as Google might like, but it's been overall positive from what I've gathered.

Re:No? (-1, Troll)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238795)

The reception on G+ has been similarly warm.

So you're talking about, what, 5-10 people?

Re:No? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238957)

The 2nd largest social networking site? 5-10 people? that means facebook only has 15, right?

Re:No? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238397)

All over? It's "the front page of the internet"!!! ;-)

Re:No? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238953)

red dit sucks, it's true, but it sucks less than slashdot!

Re:No? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43239033)

More people on there than here.

Re:No? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238141)

Perhaps it could be called "polarizing" instead? Normally when Google rolls out a product it's met with (from my experience) hesitantly positive reviews. Google Wave got a bunch of comments on- and off-line along the lines of "This looks neat, but I'll wait and see," as did Google Plus, Google Voice, etc. Maybe it sucks, maybe it's great, maybe people are just in a week-long state where they are keenly aware of Google services, whatever.

Re:No? (1, Insightful)

fermion (181285) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238873)

Who to believe, an anonymous coward referencing what is likely Google ASTROTURF on reddit or a random blogger.

What is clear is that Google is in the habit of ending useful services, so getting used to using this service is probably not indicated.

Re:No? (4, Interesting)

Dragonslicer (991472) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238937)

Isn't Gartner the firm that's been wrong about almost everything?

just another excuse (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238041)

to take the power out of your hands and your mind. Uploading is encouraged only so they can exploit and profit from your data.

Re:just another excuse (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238439)

The alternative is you pay for it with money instead of data. Its your choice, no one is forcing it on you.

I thought features were passe? (5, Insightful)

timeOday (582209) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238099)

I am starting to feel like a relic, because in my world, running a buch of feature-rich applications on a powerful computer with a large screen still seems like a great thing to do most of the time. All I see on the web is how "most people" don't use the full power of Word/Powerpoint/Outlook, therefore it should be removed. And then Microsoft comes out with Metro just to confirm my fears.

It's nice to see an application (yeah, I typed out the whole word!) slammed for being too simplistic.

Re:I thought features were passe? (1, Funny)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238365)

Hey, maybe your Rest Home and mine can play Battleship together. Over modems!

Re:I thought features were passe? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238519)

Great! I will slide Internet CD-ROM to my CD-drive and we can play it over Internet!

Re:I thought features were passe? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238913)

Heh. The first "distributed" application I ever wrote was Battleships running on two BBC Micros [wikipedia.org] connected with a null modem cable. I'm now depressed to realise that I'm closer to the rest home than that long distant event.

Re:I thought features were passe? (4, Insightful)

Pope (17780) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238423)

No, Microsoft came out with Metro because they don't know what the fuck they're doing.

Re:I thought features were passe? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238429)

You're probably seeing this because really people don't use computers for anything anymore - they're used in the workplace which increasingly is making use of LOB applications with the decline of real desktop software. Eventually all development will shift to the cloud and business will follow with it (no sense using unmaintained/unmaintainable software). The gaming community has long since jumped ship to their XBox/PlayStation consoles leaving only the people that play Crysis behind. Heck, even the WoW community are better served moving to Mac and those people don't strike me as all-you-can-eat-buffet application users. I remember when I used to run executables willy-nilly from 3.5" disks with impunity but the modern computer user is conditioned in a fear-climate to not click on anything (i.e. Computers went from objects of intrigue to objects of danger). It's really no wonder no-one uses them anymore.

The people we think are using computers are really doing nothing more than looking at Facebook pages which is something they could do equally well on an iPad or any tablet. It's one step above reading a newspaper. Even nVidia is now pushing the centralized compute model so it can't be long before we're all back working on Z80s pulling our graphics from big-iron a state over. If this comes to pass we'll be a laughing stock for having given up all our computational power for better battery life while checking cat pictures for $200/mo.

Re:I thought features were passe? (3, Funny)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238453)

Note application only takes notes, doesn't do my laundry.
Why won't it wash the dishes!?!?!??

Re:I thought features were passe? (2)

Brett Buck (811747) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238633)

I don't features should be removed, unless removing them makes the programmers *make the features that are there work properly*. Maybe I am also a relic (ok, not maybe, definitely), but I get rather irritated when Word (or any other similar crap application) adds some more features or changes the UI just for the sake of doing it, and the same f*cking bug that sometimes for some unknown reason corrupts the document and won't let me save it still existing pretty much exactly like it worked in 1997.

Wasting time adding features while serious bugs are left untouched is what p*sses people off. Of course it's a lot easier to ad copy saying "n Exciting New Features" than it is "Word 2007, 45% fewer fatal bugs"

      Brett

Re:I thought features were passe? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238643)

It's nice to see an application (yeah, I typed out the whole word!) slammed for being too simplistic.

Yeah, exactly. What's with all these people using shovels? Just use a god damned backhoe, shovels are too simplistic.

How can you trust google not to delete it (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238103)

Said everyone with a gmail account. Honestly, even if they do you will still have a copy of your data synced on your devices and the precedent is that you'll be able to get your data anyway.

Re:How can you trust google not to delete it (0)

Chris Mattern (191822) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238145)

Said everyone with a gmail account

I have a gmail account. I store absolutely nothing on it. It's all routed to my private IMAP server.

Re:How can you trust google not to delete it (1, Funny)

Frosty Piss (770223) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238291)

I have a gmail account. I store absolutely nothing on it. It's all routed to my private IMAP server.

Well isn't that special. La-dee-da.

Why doesn't EVERYBODY do run their own IMPA server?

Oh, how it must frustrate you to live in a world of rubes.

Re:How can you trust google not to delete it (2)

BenoitRen (998927) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238555)

Why doesn't EVERYBODY do run their own IMPA server?

Because not everyone is Zelda.

Re:How can you trust google not to delete it (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238975)

Most devices *do not* store their entire imap/exchange inbox. That's nuts to expect otherwise. You're thinking POP3 days. Even that, I bet Droids only store the last X messages (iphones too?)

Re:How can you trust google not to delete it (5, Informative)

rgriff59 (526951) | about a year and a half ago | (#43239329)

I keep hearing phrases like, "Don't worry. They will give you a way to get your data." For some reason, that is supposed to be a determining factor. So what?

Google says "Here is a fantastic new app to use. Please make part of your daily workflow." Some arbitrary amount of time later, Google says "Nevermind." If I have indeed made it a part of my workflow, I am required to change my workflow on their schedule on their notice. Maybe you are lucky enough to have never had life fall apart. Maybe you've never been so busy taking care of life changing issues, you could miss everything short of bombs exploding in your path. At such times, the last thing you need is for stupid little things, like a note taking app, to require attention.

As Google has a proven record of discarding their "Wow, Cool, check this out!" technologies in a fairly short time, the risk of putting the newest into a position where it will exclusively control an important workflow is too high from my perspective. Sure, I can get my data. Then what do I do with it? I have this great XML dump that nothing else can make sense of. I need something to rely on, free or not.

The fact that they announced this right on the heels of their spring cleaning product killing spree shows that as a company, they don't care. I, as an individual have the same sentiment about their new product. This has to be one of the worst marketing strategies ever attempted.

They should sign Carly Rae Jepsen (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238113)

as pitchman, and rename the product "Keep it Maybe".

Re:They should sign Carly Rae Jepsen (2)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238301)

no, sign PSY, "Goog-nam Style!" My meme is more recent than yours!

Re:They should sign Carly Rae Jepsen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43239013)

As Grumpy Cat says: "NO"

Re:They should sign Carly Rae Jepsen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238803)

  • "Your my cousin."
  • "Maeby."

Google notebook (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238149)

As I said previously, I learned my lesson in relying on them for anything.

Reader, Notebook, Labs, Wave.
Never forgiven.

Seems a bit biased (1)

stewsters (1406737) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238201)

Features laughable compared to Evernote? I used to use a text file. Before that a piece of paper. What kind of useful features does it have? Can I search Evernote from gmail? Can I access it from Google Drive? Maybe once they implement these essential features I will look at it.

I am Jack's total lack of surprise... (3, Insightful)

Assmasher (456699) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238249)

"Google can't be trusted not to pull the plug on a service which people have come to rely on" - They've just now realized this? LOL.

Most people on /. have known this for years.

Google knows what it's doing when it comes to search (including maps), and (after several years) Android - everything else is stuff built/rolled out/supported by disparate uncoordinated groups with no coherent strategy or purpose beyond "hey, this looks like something the PR guys would like."

Re:I am Jack's total lack of surprise... (4, Insightful)

Jahava (946858) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238859)

Google knows what it's doing when it comes to search (including maps), and (after several years) Android - everything else is stuff built/rolled out/supported by disparate uncoordinated groups with no coherent strategy or purpose beyond "hey, this looks like something the PR guys would like."

What a stupid statement. "They only knew what they were doing those times they did well." Most of their projects, with the exception of search, started out as disparate uncoordinated groups with no coherent strategy.

Re:I am Jack's total lack of surprise... (1, Interesting)

Assmasher (456699) | about a year and a half ago | (#43239207)

What a stupid statement.

Oh, the irony. Talk about stupid... Maps and Android were both strategic acquisitions of existing companies.

Re:I am Jack's total lack of surprise... (2)

neminem (561346) | about a year and a half ago | (#43239349)

I've understood for years that I couldn't rely on anything in the cloud that was new, experimental, or not terribly well known. That makes perfect sense. I knew, too, that I couldn't rely on any particular *feature* of any software in the cloud, because an automatic update could remove or break the feature. Still, I thought it exceedingly unlikely that any software that *wasn't* new, *wasn't* experimental, and *was* quite popular, would just suddenly disappear, for any reason other than "the company went under or was bought", both things that I can't really imagine happening to Google. The fact that they decided to ax Reader, means they might decide to ax *anything*.

Re:I am Jack's total lack of surprise... (3, Funny)

metamatic (202216) | about a year and a half ago | (#43239439)

I've understood for years that I couldn't rely on anything in my butt that was new, experimental, or not terribly well known.

Man, cloud to butt [google.com] keeps delivering in hilarity...

Re:I am Jack's total lack of surprise... (2)

neminem (561346) | about a year and a half ago | (#43239607)

Epic! Googled it, there is indeed a Firefox version of that, too. Which is now installed. This rivals the Youtube Moronizer [phase.org] for hilarity in simplicity, text-modification-wise. (For context, see also: http://www.dorktower.com/2010/09/24/5585 [dorktower.com]

Yeah, I definitely don't think it's a good idea to rely on any technology in my butt, either.

Evernote competition? No. (2)

Grizzley9 (1407005) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238315)

For some things simplicity is best. iOS Notes or Google Tasks where you have just basic information and easy input for simple things and it can be synced. Google Keep is good for a notepad/post-it note app currently, a scratch pad. But it is a long ways away from being a robust note storing and organizing tool such as SimpleNote or Evernote or OneNote. They should have just bought one of those type and incorporated it if they wanted to compete.

Plus now with their credibility in killing apps, no one will use this for serious note taking. If they don't, then whats the point for Google? Not much to be gleaned from scanning scratch notes, at least they didn't think so when they got rid of Google Notebook.

Re:Evernote competition? No. (2)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238545)

Just don't try and attach video clips or pictures to your Evernotes or you'll run out of your 60MB/month and have to pay for premium service.

Re:Evernote competition? No. (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about a year and a half ago | (#43239593)

Last time I tried Evernote I was only able to attach a single picture to a note, making it useless for what I wanted it for at the time, and yeah their limit for the free service if pretty low. On the other hand, Keep does seem to do this but has few other features. Personally, I'm hoping that they're taking the "start simple, make it perfect" approach and adding features as they're developed. As it is now, you could replicate the app with a simple DropBox extension.

"Serious note taking" (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238897)

I really agree with a lot of points you're making, but there's something about this whole thing that, to me, speaks volumes about the absurdity of computing today.

What the hell is "serious note taking"? Is there really some situation where I would need to sync my notes across my desktop and mobile phone, where I couldn't just put it in my phone to begin with? Isn't this all what saving to your computer, or in a cloud folder, or a text editor is all about?

I really don't mean to knock Evernote--I understand why people like it--and also can understand people's skepticism of where Google has been going since management changed there, especially given their recent track history. But I also think there's a tempest in a teacup quality to all of this. I mean, the notetaking apps I use don't sync across anything and they're fine. I'm sure Google Keep is fine for 90% of people. I suspect that a large proportion of people using Evernote overvalue their notes, even as a large proportion of people make good use of it.

The reason why Google can integrate these sorts of services, and people use them, is because their value to most people (*most people* being the key here) is so small, but in aggregate is so large to Google.

I worry about Google, and the crap they're pulling makes me take a second use at Evernote, Dropbox, etc. However, even if those services disappeared together with those of Google, would it really hurt me? No.

There's something scary to me when we talk about Google Keep as if it's a nuclear powerplant control system, or a word processing program, or something like that. Some people just want to jot down notes.

Re:Evernote competition? No. (1)

bonehead (6382) | about a year and a half ago | (#43239393)

Personally, I think this one has an excellent chance of sticking around for the same reason that Voice is sticking around. It's a great feature for Android.

Forget about it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238345)

I am burned by the Reader removal. I lost trust in Google and will now wait a few years before trying their new services.

Great! "Delete" is an awesome band (2)

Blaskowicz (634489) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238551)

I am more than glad that Google has become a music label, and that they signed Delete, they make very fine punk rock.
Also, naming their recording and artists's lair "The Keep" is mighty fun.

Re:Great! "Delete" is an awesome band (2)

Improbus (1996348) | about a year and a half ago | (#43239331)

When I hear "Delete" I hear a Cyberman saying it. WTF is wrong with me?

I don't see why everybody is freaking out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238621)

Google Keep is not an Evernote competitor, it's not a Pintrest competitor. It is just a simple sticky note app that works well across platforms. Like Apple's notepad app except better. I don't know why everyone thinks it's some sort of Evernote competitor because it clearly isn't. It's for making sticky notes for yourself to just jot down ideas and reminder that are accessible from the cloud rather than saved onto a machine.

A bit obvious (1)

Stu101 (1031686) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238669)

Ok, so we know that Google have issues with trusting apps at the moment.

It would be easier if Google just bought em. Ready made solution requiring little "start from scratch and try and compete"

That way, they get a ready made market. Few people are going to abandon it because it forms part of their "Digital life"

Re:A bit obvious (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238909)

but google has an army of engineers with no worthwhile projects to assign them to.

what I don't get is why they didn't just make reader use drive as the backend like they did for this - except from the standpoint that reader was losing them adviews on the web.

"Beta" means something different to Google. (3, Insightful)

mistapotta (941143) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238671)

As I remind my students, "Beta" to Google means they haven't figured out how to profit on it. If they can find a way to profit on it, it then becomes one of their many appliances. If they can't, it gets killed. Clearly, Google didn't have a way to profit on Reader, as they couldn't on Wave, as they couldn't on Health. If they can find a way to profit from Keep, it'll keep. Otherwise it'll be gone like the rest.

Re:"Beta" means something different to Google. (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about a year and a half ago | (#43239617)

I would have though a very detailed profile of someone's interests would be quite profitable based on their line of business.

Remember Chrome or Android? (3, Interesting)

elcheesmo (646907) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238689)

I remember when Chrome first came. I thought Google was wasting their time because Firefox was clearly the best browser, and there was no reason to think it would ever stop being the best. And the browser market already seemed too crowed with IE, Safari, Firefox, and Opera all competing for market share.

Keep now is not what Keep will be in the future. Google search, Gmail, Google Maps, Chrome, Android, and many other Google products are almost indistinguishable from what they were during their first iteration. And of those I listed, Gmail and Google Maps are the only ones I would say were actually better from the competition from day 1.

Evernote should be sweating at least a little bit.

Re:Remember Chrome or Android? (2)

doconnor (134648) | about a year and a half ago | (#43238883)

As I recall Google search was better then the competition from day 1. Unlike it competition, it used all the words you entered in its search, wasn't flooded with flashy ads and had its vastly superior page-rank algorithm.

At least if Google does retire Keep... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238879)

It will make a really embarrassing article title, "Google decides not to keep Google Keep"

hands off my contacts (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238917)

The Evernote app on Android has the permission to read your contacts. No thank you. I downloaded Keep for that reason alone. Plus it's fast and easy to use. So far I like it.

They ALL cancel products and services arbitrarily (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43238955)

Welcome to the wonderful world of SaaS and the clould. Microsoft too, of course, cancels languages and abandons technologies according to its own internal "logic" which ignores both developers and users. Such is the world. Stick with local applications. Stick with Java or open source languages that won't disappear, or morph into some other "solution" to a problem you never had.

Google promotes tech (1)

BlueCoder (223005) | about a year and a half ago | (#43239025)

I think the case can be made that Google in all it's little projects are pushing tech by being a test bed. I do believe their thinking is to put up any service for free five years as a massive research projects. Their first question isn't if it's profitable but rather rather how useful it is. They leave thoughts of profitability to be answered further down the line. At the end of life of the project if something is just self sustaining I do believe they would rather have someone take over now that they did all the deep market analysis and research on it. If something can be massively profitable then they will maintain it. Sort of like how it's founders came up with a useful search engine.

In other words they do things just because they are interesting. No guarantee to be there in a hundred years. Their main motivation is the research. Google does massive public R&D. Not all of which would be protected by copyrights and patents. I do believe their main goal is to PUSH TECH. To do the research to the point that someone else could take over. A build the prototype and the interest and market will come attitude.

This won't be good... (1)

alteveer (979070) | about a year and a half ago | (#43239063)

..until I can paste images into it, and paste into lists. I hate to say this, but Microsoft Outlook 2007's compose email is pretty much what I am looking for =)

Seriously Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43239359)

Can I to be shilled by you to post utter crap? Look at the app review and you see most people are happy with it. Keep was just released and in its infancy, so it won't have all features yet. It integrates great with Android and has a web front. Reader complaints? You sound like an asshole. Your days just dumped you before prom and you want to complain to everyone that Prom has failed to support your sad life. Go to Freely it works great. Subscribe to the feeds on Google+ or shut the fuck up. Its a free service you didn't lose material goods for the service. Stop with the entitlement shit.

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