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We Didn't Need Google's Schmidt To Tell Us Android and Chrome Wouldn't Merge

samzenpus posted 1 year,30 days | from the keep-em-seperated dept.

Android 107

First time accepted submitter Steve Patterson writes "Thankfully, Google Chairman Eric Schmidt has announced that 'Android and Chrome will remain separate.' Rumors that the products would be combined emerged last week when leadership of Android and Chrome were consolidated under Google Senior Vice President Sundar Pichai. Schmidt stated the obvious, but if you are a developer and you took the bait and thought the rumors might be true, you already read enough of Google Chrome or Google Android documentation before Schmidt's clarification and confirmed that consolidating the two products would be, well, stupid."

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Forced convergence is all the rage. (5, Funny)

symbolset (646467) | 1 year,30 days | (#43241689)

Obviously they're crazy. Putting the same mobile touch-based user interface on every phone, tablet, laptop, desktop, watch, games console, server and small appliance is the wave of the future.

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43241763)

I want to touch my tongue to the very bottom of your ass crack and then move my tongue along the crack all the way to the top; I'd continue doing that until your bare asshole was covered in my spit. What say you?

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43241801)

not even gonna stick your tongue in my ass? what kind of salad tossing is that?

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43241893)

He's obviously new to this. Here is a primer [laweekly.com].

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (-1, Offtopic)

asshole felcher (2655639) | 1 year,30 days | (#43242957)

Here are the facts: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's 2011 National Health Statistics study showed that among adults aged 25-44, about 98 percent of women and 97 percent of men have had vaginal intercourse, 89 percent of women and 90 percent of men have had oral sex, and 36 percent of women and 44 percent of men have had anal sex. That means one out of every three gals and almost half of the guys polled say they enjoy playing with their partners' poopers.

I can tell you from first-hand experience that having anal sex is not the same thing as enjoying anal sex. Ask your favorite ex-con for more information.

I can also tell you that those butt-fucking numbers are suspicious. There's a reason the oral/vaginal numbers are basically identical for men and women -- A man can't have sex with a woman unless a woman also has sex with a man. So an 8% difference in male vs female butt fucking means either

1. There's a lot of man-on-man butt sex
2. There's a lot of men lying

Most research puts homosexual/bi-curious rates at under 5% -- and many "bi-curious" men limit themselves to blowjobs and masturbating (AIDS much?) But if we were to assume the 8% difference is due to man-on-man buttfucking... well, gay men have anal sex. Film at 11. Not exactly a compelling reason for a woman to go down on a straight man's asshole.

Or anal women have had more than one partner (0)

raymorris (2726007) | 1 year,29 days | (#43245085)

man can't have sex with a woman unless a woman also has sex with a man. So an 8% difference in male vs female butt fucking means either 1. There's a lot of man-on-man butt sex -or-2. There's a lot of men lying.

Or 3. the anally inclined women have had 1.08 male partners, on average.

Re:Or anal women have had more than one partner (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#43245803)

I've fucked a lot of women but I've never encountered a butt slut. More likely it's a cross dresser/tranny without woman parts. (I'm pretty meticulous about checking after a certain incident)

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43241955)

Ballmer would believe you're serious and quite a visionary...

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43242631)

That's because he's not just an ordinary man, man. He's my idol. He has powers of perception so far beyond what mere mortals have, man, that other people just can't see what he can see - that most people don't think are even there. The whole of space and time is just a vector field to him, man - a dancing dynamic vortex of brilliant paisley colors and he can SEE in it the way forward clear as day where all anybody else can see is dancing babies and "blonde, brunette, redhead". People who question him, man, they aren't the devil. They're just confused man. Confused by the cacophony of all the distractions of everyday demands and petty wants of customers because they don't have his clarity to see that making everybody take what you want to give them is the proper social order, man.

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (1)

bhcompy (1877290) | 1 year,30 days | (#43243709)

Which is why it's not unbelievable that people would believe it, joke or not. It simply is the unfortunate wave of the stupid tech corporate overlord future.

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (3, Insightful)

hairyfeet (841228) | 1 year,29 days | (#43244233)

Which is frankly bumming me the hell out, this is the first time since i got into tech in the late 70s that I have thought the future is actually gonna be shittier than what we have now. before things always got better, systems got faster, prices went lower, the generations were just better and better...now? Its fucking game consoles man, that is ALL it is, fucking locked down game consoles in phone or tablet or whatever form and the public eats that shit up because it means they don't have to think because there is no thought involved with a game console, mommy corp takes care of everything so don't you worry your pretty little head none. They'll tell you what to buy, when to buy a new one, it'll all be controlled and as user friendly as a TV remote and just as worthless for anything not approved by corporate.

Its fucking depressing man, you got Google building DBs on everybody that would make the Stasi jealous, you got Apple seeing how locked down they can make a device and still get the public to buy, and you got MSFT being Apple's bitch and copying every bad feature of Apple without any good, the whole thing fucking stinks.

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (1)

symbolset (646467) | 1 year,29 days | (#43244243)

Hairy, Sell mobile devices, skins and accessories. You'll be fine.

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | 1 year,29 days | (#43245597)

FUCK THAT. Seriously fuck that bullshit. You ever try to get parts for any of that shit? Can't do it, doesn't matter if the fucking thing is $700 they expect you to throw it away. there is exactly one dude in town that will deal with that shit and when i asked him how he leads me out back and he has like a 4 car fucking garage filled with NOTHING but dead mobile devices for parts...fuck that, fuck that locked down fucking garbage, I'll go back to playing behind God damned chicken wire before I be a party to that customer fucking horseshit.

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (2)

pnutjam (523990) | 1 year,29 days | (#43246427)

Maybe there is a market for a business class of device that can be repaired. I think it's afew years off, but I just heard the other day a news report saying how all the hardware specs are boring and don't really mean anything. It's the software that matters on new phones. Commodization can't be too far off and then it gets down to durability and fix-ability.

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (2)

Snospar (638389) | 1 year,29 days | (#43244337)

I mostly agree with you and yes, it is depressing but I think there is another reason pushing people onto these locked down devices and it's simply that Microsoft still haven't worked out how to protect their systems from malware & viruses. Now before everyone jumps in and says this isn't just a MS problem, malware attacks 3rd party software too - I know that and I'll gladly put Java and Adobe in the same sin bin.

Let's say that Average Joe buys a nice shiny Windows laptop for $2000 - it's his machine, he can install whatever software he likes and there's no lock down right? But even on day one there is crapware installed by the laptop vendor that has started to slow his machine down (preinstalled AV "trials", desktop gadgets, Troubleshooting "assistants" and of course add-on toolbars). Now lets move on 6 months, the shiny laptop that was pretty fast on day one is now crawling - he's probably got a virus or some other malware by this stage (possibly because his OS updates didn't force 3rd party updates) and to combat this he's now got 2 or 3 always active anti-virus/anti-malware scanners running. It's possible he's also got malware masquerading as Antivirus running too and all these applications are fighting with the system and each other for resources.

But look over there, someone with a crappy netbook isn't having these problems because it's running Linux, or there's someone else with an Apple iThing (which they religiously keep updated and haven't been hit by any unfortunate 0-day exploits) and finally there's someone with a Chromebook who again have no need for multiple AV programs.

I hate that people opt for locked down systems over Linux but I think I hate more being called out to try and fix the crappy mess that Windows has left someone with when they mistakenly clicked that dodgy link on the web.

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (2)

hairyfeet (841228) | 1 year,29 days | (#43245895)

Bullshit its become a status thing. Hell my fricking dad asked about getting an iPhone, he can't even work the stuff he has on his Android phone and frankly hates smartphones so why would he want an iPhone? Because the other big wigs has one so he has the urge to keep up with the Joneses, that's all. I saw a girl struggling like hell to juggle her purse and a shopping cart because she was using a damned iPad for a fricking grocery list. The dirty look when I said "Trying to justify shelling out all that money huh?" told me all I needed to know, she had no real use for the thing, it was ALL about status but now that she had the thing she couldn't think of enough ways to be seen with it to justify the expense.

That is one thing I always gave Jobs credit for, he could take what should be a boring device and make it into a Rolex watch, something that the wealthy have and the poor want, even if they have no fucking real use for the thing and something half the price would do just as well...like a Rolex watch actually. Its all about the illusion of status and classism, of making those around think you are better than you are, and it fricking stinks. Its no different than those $300 Jordan sneakers, is there any. single. thing. that makes a Jordan somehow "better" other than the price tag? Nope made in the same Chinese sweatshops where you get cheaper sneakers from but BECAUSE it costs $300 it is therefor better. It reminds me of the hostage situation on Robocop "I want a 6000 SUX that goes really fast and gets really shitty gas mileage" because in the commercials built into Robocop the fact you could afford to drive such a gas hog was its entire appeal, it showed money meant nothing to you which is why all the execs in that movie were in 6000 SUXs.

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#43248427)

I know several people who own iPhone's or iPads and not one of them bought it for "status".

You are simply transferring your feelings of inadequacy onto others and are trying to ignore the fact that you are incompetent and an epic retard.

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (2)

SpectreBlofeld (886224) | 1 year,29 days | (#43246627)

Software isn't the only reason for slowdowns. The thermal paste on processors also gets old and brittle after a few years, causing the CPUs to overheat. The CPUs then self-throttle in order to keep the heat down, which slows the machine down. This is why even a machine that is well-maintained in software will get slower over the years than it was when it was new. This is especially true for laptops that have desktop-class processors in them. Re-applying thermal paste and cleaning out all the gunk from the cooling system can help.

Your ARM netbooks and mobile devices don't generally have this problem because the processors don't run as hot.

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (1)

Gr8Apes (679165) | 1 year,29 days | (#43245063)

Apple's devices are locked down? Compared to what? I can install anything I want on a macbook, for instance, so that entire line is out. As for iPhones / iPads you can install other stuff, most people just choose not too, as the real value in both of those devices is access to Apple's marketplace.

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (1)

bhcompy (1877290) | 1 year,29 days | (#43246281)

To be fair, you can infer iProduct from "Apple devices" simply because of sales numbers. Macbooks are a tiny sliver of the Apple retail pie

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (1)

Gr8Apes (679165) | 1 year,29 days | (#43246649)

"Tiny sliver"? 4M Macs vs 17M iPad vs 26M iPhones Q3 2012 [engadget.com] because it was the first result that showed numbers. It's in the same order of magnitude in numbers, and in dollars, you'll note that iPhone/iPad numbers include related services, while the Mac ones do not and it's still 20% of the pie. If that's your definition of a "tiny sliver", then I'm sure you don't mind sending me $5B a quarter. My wallet will appreciate it.

Re:Forced convergence is all the rage. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#43248329)

Why don't you get educated and do something meaningful instead of crying that the big companies are killing your crappy little business that builds third rate desktops?

Perhaps then, you won't come to every Linux related article and start frothing at the mouth about how Windows sucks and you are not intelligent enough to build a Linux box that will last years even though millions of other people do it with ease.

something something something HOST file (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43241705)

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputation as a professional in this field clearly shows in multiple publications in this field in written print, & also online in various GOOD capacities since 1996 to present day. This has happened since I was first published in Playgirl Magazine in 1996 & others to present day, with helpful tools online in programs, & professionally sold warez that were finalists @ Westminster Dog Show 2000-2002.



That was amazing. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948073 [slashdot.org]


My, God! It's beatiful. Keep it up, you glorious bastard. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41835161 [slashdot.org]


Let us bask in its glory. A true modern The Wasteland. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948579 [slashdot.org]


put your baby IN ME -- I just read this whole thing. Fuck mod points, WHERE DO I SEND YOU MY MONEY?!!! - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40950023 [slashdot.org]


Oh shit, Time Cube Guy's into computers now... - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946259 [slashdot.org]


He's done more to discredit the use of HOSTS files than anyone in the "do it right and set up a firewall" crowd ever could. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357 [slashdot.org]


Can I have some of what you're on? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40947587 [slashdot.org]


this obnoxious fucknuts [apk] has been trolling the internet and spamming his shit delphi sub-fart app utilities for 15 years. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954565 [slashdot.org]


oh come on.. this is hilarious. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40955479 [slashdot.org]


I agree I am intrigued by these host files how do I sign up for your newsletter? - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40961339 [slashdot.org]


Gimme the program that generates this epic message. I'll buy 5 of your product if you do... - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954251 [slashdot.org]


As mentioned by another AC up there, the troll in question is actually a pretty well-executed mashup of APK's style - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357 [slashdot.org]


It's actually a very clever parody of APK - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40944229 [slashdot.org]


Please keep us updated on your AI research, you seem quite good at it. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40944603 [slashdot.org]


$20,000 to anyone providing proof of Alexander Peter Kowalski's death. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958289 [slashdot.org]


Obviously, it must be Alexander Peter Kowalski. He's miffed at all these imposters... - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958429 [slashdot.org]


And here I was thinking I was having a bad experience with a Dr. Bronner's bottle. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952247 [slashdot.org]


Damn, apk, who the fuck did you piss off this time? Hahahahaahahahahahahaahaha. Pass the popcorn as the troll apk gets pwned relentlessly. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954673 [slashdot.org]


I think it's the Internet, about to become sentient. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40956187 [slashdot.org]


Does anyone know if OpenGL has been ported to Windows yet? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956781 [slashdot.org]


golfclap - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40900827 [slashdot.org]


The Truth! wants to be Known! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897389 [slashdot.org]


DNS cube? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897493 [slashdot.org]


KUDOS valiant AC. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897777 [slashdot.org]


Polyploid lovechild of APK, MyCleanPC, and Time Cube --> fail counter integer overflow --> maximum win! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40899171 [slashdot.org]


You made my day, thanks! - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029589&cid=40896469 [slashdot.org]


Wow. The perfect mix of trolls. Timecube, mycleanpc, gnaa, apk... this is great! - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3027333&cid=40893381 [slashdot.org]


truer words were never spoken as /. trolls are struck speechless by it, lol! - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=41041795 [slashdot.org]


It's APK himself trying to maintain the illusion that he's still relevant. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967209 [slashdot.org]


Mod this up. The back and forth multi posting between APK and this "anti-APK" certainly does look like APK talking to himself. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40969175 [slashdot.org]


APK himself would be at the top of a sensible person's ban list. He's been spamming and trolling Slashdot for years. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967137 [slashdot.org]


You got that right. I think. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3044971&cid=40972239 [slashdot.org]


Michael Kristopeit, is that you? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3045075&cid=40972377 [slashdot.org]


ROFL! :) (Now the sick bastard will follow me again) - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41429251 [slashdot.org]


I miss Dr Bob. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432027 [slashdot.org]


Not sure if actually crazy, or just pretending to be crazy. Awesome troll either way. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432951 [slashdot.org]


Awesome! Hat off to you, sir! - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41509273 [slashdot.org]


That isn't a parody of Time-cube, it is an effort to counter-troll a prolific poster named APK, who seems like a troll himself, although is way too easy to troll into wasting massive amounts of time on BS not far from the exaggerations above - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41514107 [slashdot.org]


I am intrigued and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3164403&cid=41555345 [slashdot.org]


1. You philistine, that is Art . Kudos to you, valiant troll on your glorious FP - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832599 [slashdot.org]


What? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832673 [slashdot.org]


I don't know if it is poorly-thought-out, but it is demented because it is at the same time an APK parody. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832905 [slashdot.org]


It is in fact an extremely well thought out and brilliantly executed APK parody, combined with a Time Cube parody, and with a sprinkling of the MyCleanPC spam. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41841251 [slashdot.org]


er... many people have disproved your points about hosts files with well reasoned, factual arguments. You just chose not to listen and made it into some kind of bizarre crusade. And I'm not the timecube guy, just someone else who finds you intensely obnoxious and likes winding you up to waste your time. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41843313 [slashdot.org]


performance art - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847089 [slashdot.org]


it's apk, theres no reason to care. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847097 [slashdot.org]


Seems more like an apk parody. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847661 [slashdot.org]


That's great but what about the risk of subluxations? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847101 [slashdot.org]


Oh, come on. Just stand back and look at it. It's almost art, in a Jackson Pollock sort of way. - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41868923 [slashdot.org]


Read carefully. This is a satirical post, that combines the last several years of forum trolling, rolled into one FUNNY rant! - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41864711 [slashdot.org]


I can has summary? - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41861327 [slashdot.org]


I'd have a lot more sympathy if you would log in as APK again instead of AC. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41868133 [slashdot.org]


If [apk] made an account, it would be permanently posting at -1, and he'd only be able to post with it twice a day. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41869409 [slashdot.org]


DAFUQ I just look at? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869085 [slashdot.org]


Trolls trolling trolls... it's like Inception or something. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869353 [slashdot.org]


We all know it's you, apk. Stop pretending to antagonize yourself. - http://bsd.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229179&cid=41869305 [slashdot.org]


Do you know about the shocking connection between APK and arsenic? No? Well, your innocence is about to be destroyed. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3472971&cid=42939965 [slashdot.org]


Send bug reports to 903 east division street, syracuse, ny 13208 - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3483339&cid=42972783 [slashdot.org]


Now you've made me all nostalgic for USENET. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42981977 [slashdot.org]


Google APK Hosts File Manager. He's written a fucking application to manage your hosts file. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42984521 [slashdot.org]


In case you are not aware, the post is a satire of a fellow known as APK. The grammar used is modeled after APK's as you can see here [thorschrock.com]. Or, you can just look around a bit and see some of his posts on here about the wonders of host files. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42983119 [slashdot.org]


You are surely of God of Trolls, whomever you are. I have had stupid arguments with and bitten the troll apk many times. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486901&cid=42989683 [slashdot.org]


"What kind of meds cure schizophrenic drunk rambling?" -> "Whatever APK isn't taking" - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028403 [slashdot.org] http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028425 [slashdot.org]


I'm confused, is apk trolling himself now? - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43029495 [slashdot.org]


Excellent mashup. A++. Would troll again. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3503531&cid=43037445 [slashdot.org]


Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43048291 [slashdot.org]


Best. Troll. Ever. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43044811 [slashdot.org]


I like monkeys. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43051505 [slashdot.org]


This is one of the funniest things I've ever read. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43052263 [slashdot.org]


lul wut? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3510265&cid=43057839 [slashdot.org]


I admire this guy's persistence. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063797 [slashdot.org]


It's a big remix of several different crackpots from Slashdot and elsewhere, plus a liberal sprinkling of famous Slashdot trolls and old memes. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063881 [slashdot.org]


Tabloid newspapers have speculated for years that APK is a prominent supporter of Monsanto. Too bad we didn't believe them sooner! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063893 [slashdot.org]


Here's a hint, check out stories like this one [slashdot.org], where over 200 of the 247 posts are rated zero or -1 because they are either from two stupid trolls arguing endless, or quite likely one troll arguing with himself for attention. The amount of off-topic posts almost outnumber on topic ones by 4 to 1. Posts like the above are popular for trolling APK, since if you say his name three times, he appears, and will almost endlessly feed trolls. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43064383 [slashdot.org]


I love this copypasta so much. It never fails to make me smile. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3512099&cid=43069271 [slashdot.org]


^ Champion Mod parent up. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3513659&cid=43067371 [slashdot.org]


I appreciate the time cube reference, and how you tied it into the story. Well done. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3521721&cid=43094565 [slashdot.org]


The day you are silenced is the day freedom dies on Slashdot. God bless. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522191&cid=43097221 [slashdot.org]


AHahahahah thanks for that, cut-n-pasted.... Ownage! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522219&cid=43097215 [slashdot.org]


Don't hate the player, hate the game. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3526293&cid=43110679 [slashdot.org]


If you're familiar with APK, the post itself is a pretty damn funny parody. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115215 [slashdot.org]


">implying it's not apk posting it" --> "I'd seriously doubt he's capable of that level of self-deprecation..." - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115337 [slashdot.org] http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115363 [slashdot.org]


No, the other posts are linked in a parody of APK's tendency to quote himself, numbnuts. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43116855 [slashdot.org]


The thirteenth link is broken. Please fix it. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115361 [slashdot.org]


Just ban any post with "apk", "host file", or "hosts file", as that would take care of the original apk too. The original has been shitposting Slashdot much longer & more intensively than the parody guy. Or ban all Tor exit nodes, as they both use Tor to circumvent IP bans. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216431 [slashdot.org]


Sadly this is closer to on-topic than an actual APK post is. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216225 [slashdot.org]


YOU ARE A GOD AMONG MEN. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43236143 [slashdot.org]


I've butted heads with APK myself, and yeah, the guy's got issues - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569173&cid=43236987 [slashdot.org]


Can I be in your quote list? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569443&cid=43237531 [slashdot.org]


Clearly you are not an Intertubes engineer, otherwise the parent post would be more meaningful to you. Why don't YOU take your meds? - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569425&cid=43238177 [slashdot.org]


+2 for style! The bolding, italicizing, and font changes are all spot-on - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43238479 [slashdot.org]


Did you see the movie "Pokemon"? Actually the induced night "dream world" is synonymous with the academic religious induced "HOSTS file" enslavement of DNS. Domains have no inherent value, as it was invented as a counterfeit and fictitious value to represent natural values in name resolution. Unfortunately, human values have declined to fictitious word values. Unknowingly, you are living in a "World Wide Web", as in a fictitious life in a counterfeit Internet - which you could consider APK induced "HOSTS file". Can you distinguish the academic induced root server from the natural OpenDNS? Beware of the change when your brain is free from HOSTS file enslavement - for you could find that the natural Slashdot has been destroyed!!

FROM -> Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

So long nummynuts, sorry to have to kick your nuts up into your head verbally speaking.

cower in my shadow some more, feeb. you're completely pathetic.

Disproof of all apk's statements:
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* :)

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words!

P.S.=> That's what makes me LAUGH harder than ANYTHING ELSE on this forums (full of "FUD" spreading trolls) - When you hit trolls with facts & truths they CANNOT disprove validly on computing tech based grounds, this is the result - Applying unjustifiable downmods to effetely & vainly *try* to "hide" my posts & facts/truths they extoll!

Hahaha... lol , man: Happens nearly every single time I post such lists (proving how ineffectual these trolls are), only showing how solid my posts of that nature are...

That's the kind of martial arts I practice.

In case you're wondering... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43243145)

APK is not really a schizophrenic fired former Windows administrator with multiple personality disorder and TimeCube/Art Bell refugee. He's a fictional character like and put forward by the same person as Goatse Guy, GNAA trolls, Dr. Bob and so forth. His purpose is to test the /. CAPTCA algorithm, which is a useful purpose. If you're perturbed by having to scroll past his screeds just set your minimum point level to 1, as his posts are pretty automatically downmodded right away.

The OS should match the hardware (4, Insightful)

xyzio (1470567) | 1 year,30 days | (#43241715)

Chrome and Android are very different OS. Chrome is designed to run off the web on lightweight hardware using a keyboard/mouse while Android has a touch interface and runs on essentially mini-computers and needs to be able run offline. Combining them is going to give you something like Win 8 - neither one nor the other but a giant mess.

Re:The OS should match the hardware (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43241813)

It is possible to somewhat merge the products in an intelligent way, while retaining their advantages for the hardware they work on. Look at Mountain Lion and iOS as an example. Both do their jobs well, but it is obvious that they are doing a little mixing and stealing features from each other. There is no reason that Chrome and Android can't follow the same path (which already appears to be happening).

Re:The OS should match the hardware (2)

c0lo (1497653) | 1 year,30 days | (#43243119)

It is possible to somewhat merge the products in an intelligent way, while retaining their advantages for the hardware they work on.

You wish! Unfortunately, better chances are in having the progeny as ugly as the one parent and as stupid as the other.

Re:The OS should match the hardware (1)

gl4ss (559668) | 1 year,29 days | (#43243969)

having fw for both on the same device wouldn't be too bad - and then a way to run android apps in chrome(the other way doesn't matter as much).
why? well, for starters there would be a standard for devices that slide into another shell, like a phone into a laptop.

it's all the same hw anyways.

but I suppose google would rather have you move everything through google drive than let you keep everything on-device..

Re:The OS should match the hardware (1)

Half-pint HAL (718102) | 1 year,29 days | (#43244597)

having fw for both on the same device wouldn't be too bad - and then a way to run android apps in chrome(the other way doesn't matter as much).

Surely the other way round is trivial -- isn't the Android browser based on the main Chrome codebase?

Personally I think Chrome OS is redundant, and that Google should have made a non-touch UI patch for Android. I would love to "converge" my desktop and mobile experience... as long as it was based on a sensible UI, and not effing Metro....

Re:The OS should match the hardware (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#43244695)

I tested browsers on my android phone. Chrome runs terrible. While Opera is very fast. The native browser on galaxy is better too. Dolphin was also okay. Chrome freezes and takes forever to load pages while Opera is speedy.

Re:The OS should match the hardware (4, Informative)

drinkypoo (153816) | 1 year,29 days | (#43245771)

Chrome and Android are very different OS.

Chrome is a browser, and Android is an operating system. Linux is a kernel, and it is the basis for both Android, and ChromeOS, a lightweight Linux distribution intended to present an interface to the user only through the Chrome browser.

Chrome is designed to run off the web on lightweight hardware using a keyboard/mouse while Android has a touch interface and runs on essentially mini-computers and needs to be able run offline.

You do not even know what a minicomputer is, so please don't use that word again until you consult a computing dictionary. Android does not run on minicomputers, and it barely runs on microcomputers. It's intended to run on handheld computing platforms, but one day it should be a dandy operating system for microcomputers as well. (Right now, the hardware support is lacking.) It has no problems supporting a mouse and keyboard interface, which has been true since Gingerbread at the latest — which was delivered with the Acer Aspire One AOD250 netbook, which is an example of a microcomputer.

Combining them is going to give you something like Win 8 - neither one nor the other but a giant mess.

Chrome for Android already exists, which permits you to combine Chrome with Android by installing an APK. It is crap compared to the version of Chrome for microcomputers, which is why ChromeOS even exists. Otherwise, it would make absolutely no sense for Google to maintain two Linux-based operating systems (Android and ChromeOS) due to duplication of effort. When and if Chrome for Android reaches feature-parity with Chrome for ChromeOS, then not only will there be no further reason for ChromeOS to exist, but we will also be able to say that Google has "merged" Android and ChromeOS, since the entire interface of ChromeOS is the Chrome browser.

I admit that for there to be no reason for ChromeOS to exist any longer, that Android will have to be able to run on the equivalent of the highest-end Chromebook shipping at the time, but almost regardless of the details that will be a minor implementation hurdle compared to bringing Chrome for Android up to speed.

Re:The OS should match the hardware (1)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | 1 year,29 days | (#43246869)

I hate to break it to you, but *no one* has called PC's microcomputers since 1991. People are calling very small computers minicomputers, even though that name used to mean a computer that was housed in one cabinet. Time changes, terminology gets reused. Adapt for the sake of your own sanity.

Re:The OS should match the hardware (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | 1 year,29 days | (#43247393)

People are calling very small computers minicomputers

Ignorant people who wish to appear knowledgeable, yes.

If they become educated, then they can appear knowledgeable to people who actually know something. Which is why I am providing correction. If I were in some other venue and the term came up, odds are I'd let it slide unless it were particularly useful to appear to be the nerdliest dork in the room. Around here, I don't worry so much about hurting someone's feelings when they misuse a term, because they really ought to know better. If you can figure out how to use Slashdot, then you surely can use Google; if all that is wanting is wanting, then I'm even less worried about hurting their feelings. Lack of fucks to be given will not improve Slashdot.

Re:The OS should match the hardware (1)

geminidomino (614729) | 1 year,29 days | (#43245995)

Tell that to... well, every major OS, since they still don't seem to grasp that Tablets and Desktops are different hardware.

That's what made it so believable. "Stupid" is the order of the day.

All Google products are very ethereal (2, Insightful)

fustakrakich (1673220) | 1 year,30 days | (#43241723)

They pop up and disappear like toadstools. Google is everything but stagnant.

Re:All Google products are very ethereal (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43242917)

OOoh, look, there's a lovely bit of FUD down here!

Filth like posting FUD...

Re:All Google products are very ethereal (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,29 days | (#43246315)

google reader

Tell it to Mozillla (4, Informative)

colfer (619105) | 1 year,30 days | (#43241729)

Tell it to Mozilla. All resources seem to be going to the OS project. Thunderbird lost funding.

Re:Tell it to Mozillla (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | 1 year,30 days | (#43242663)

Thunderbird is pretty stable though, and to their credit they don't suffer from a severe degree of featuritus.

Re:Tell it to Mozillla (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43243455)

Corpses are also stable, still not a pretty sight. Thunderbird's contact list is seriously outdated and not integrated; its GMail support was, last time I checked, laughable. There are plenty things left to improve. Mozilla is just too occupied chasing after HTML5 and JS speed records, while poorly imitating Chrome.

Re:Tell it to Mozillla (2)

caspy7 (117545) | 1 year,30 days | (#43243615)

Thunderbird's Address Book is being replaced and made pluggable (easily connecting to various contact providers).
So not all development has stopped.
Work from Thunderbird has fed into Firefox OS and I believe vice versa.

Re:Tell it to Mozillla (1)

loufoque (1400831) | 1 year,29 days | (#43244465)

Thunderbird still has major problems with performance, disk usage and connectivity...

Re:Tell it to Mozillla (1)

MancunianMaskMan (701642) | 1 year,29 days | (#43244843)

maybe, but then again I switched to Thunderbird from Evolution, and performance and connectivity improved by orders of magnitude. Performance is always relative...

Re:Tell it to Mozillla (1)

ProzacPatient (915544) | 1 year,29 days | (#43246109)

I used to use Thunderbird but then I got a job. I'd happily switch back to Thunderbird if they'd add in Exchange support like every other mail client on the planet. :(

Re:Tell it to Mozillla (1)

Tarlus (1000874) | 1 year,29 days | (#43247167)

You can still make it work using IMAP, Lightning and the Lightning Exchange connector. It's not as fully-featured as Outlook as far as being an Exchange client, but it covers the basics. OWA can cover the rest (out of office reminders, etc) when needed. I used it for the better part of a year before deciding that Outlook 2010 isn't so bad.

It's not as crazy as you think... (2)

supersat (639745) | 1 year,30 days | (#43241747)

Parts of Chrome and Android have always shared code (namely WebKit and some glue), but now Android is shipping Chrome as the default browser. The weird overlap is between Chrome OS and Android. Chrome OS is just Linux and Chrome... both of which are part of Android.

Re:It's not as crazy as you think... (2)

kllrnohj (2626947) | 1 year,30 days | (#43242067)

Which is *exactly* why it's crazy/stupid to merge them. The entire point of ChromeOS is that it's just a browser. If you merge anything with it, all you've done is killed ChromeOS. And there's nothing to merge from ChromeOS into other OSes - it's just the Chrome browser, which Android already has.

Re:It's not as crazy as you think... (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | 1 year,29 days | (#43245825)

The entire point of ChromeOS is that it's just a browser.

Delete everything but the browser from your chromebook, and let me know how well it works.

And there's nothing to merge from ChromeOS into other OSes - it's just the Chrome browser, which Android already has.

ChromeOS is a lightweight linux which delivers the Chrome browser. Android is a lightweight linux which delivers the Chrome browser. See the problem here? Maintaining a product line which provides a subset of another product line but which isn't simply a compile/build system flag away is a wasteful duplication of effort. ChromeOS only exists because Chrome on Android isn't as good as Chrome on ChromeOS. When this is no longer true it will make more sense to simply ditch ChromeOS, and put Android behind Chrome, possibly without other apps save for perhaps config and so on. It's not there yet, so it's not going to happen yet.

Re:It's not as crazy as you think... (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | 1 year,30 days | (#43242279)

I was always confused why chrome wasn't the default preinstalled browser on android. Google developed the same thing twice?

Re:It's not as crazy as you think... (4, Informative)

kllrnohj (2626947) | 1 year,30 days | (#43242891)

I was always confused why chrome wasn't the default preinstalled browser on android. Google developed the same thing twice?

You seem to have forgotten your history here. Chrome and Android launched around the same time. Hell, Chrome on Linux didn't show up until 2010 - that's *AFTER* the Motorola Droid had launched. It's obvious *NOW* that Chrome should run on Android. But 3-4 years ago both Chrome *and* Android were far from proven, and both were focused on establishing themselves first.

Also, how you build a browser on a desktop is very different from how you build one on mobile. And the vast majority of the work is bringing webkit up on a new platform. WebKit by itself doesn't do much - it's basically "just" HTML parsing + DOM management + JavaScript. Graphics, audio, video, etc... is all platform-specific, and when Android was starting out webkit didn't support touch either.

Re:It's not as crazy as you think... (1)

steelfood (895457) | 1 year,29 days | (#43246643)

Also, how you build a browser on a desktop is very different from how you build one on mobile.

Not particularly. Android on something like the Asus Transformer series shows what kind of an OS it would be on a full desktop/laptop. Which is to say, it isn't perfect, because a developed-for-desktop OS would probably be more powerful and a bit less clunky, but it is certainly usable and not inconvenient at all.

The paradigms are not all that different. For starters, the app listing on the iPhone and Android is merely a smaller version of the desktop. The home button is just a glorified start button. And the pop-up keyboard is merely a real physical keyboard that's not going to take up screen space. The only difference is in the number of drivers that a desktop might need, and possibly aspect ratio support.

Re:It's not as crazy as you think... (1)

snadrus (930168) | 1 year,29 days | (#43251765)

Each needs to support a browser that does graphics, audio, video, etc. So I'd push for similarity: Kernels & platform components. That reduces code duplication (thereby reducing bugs & freeing dev time).

Then Chrome OS gets reliability benefits from Android's user base (public bug testing), and Android gets great native (non-Dalvik) components for better performance.

Linked article has little to say on the issue (4, Interesting)

grouchomarxist (127479) | 1 year,30 days | (#43241823)

The only bit of substance this article has is the quote from Eric Schmidt which is a partial quote which leaves out a very important bit. The fuller quote is: "Chrome and Android operating systems will remain separate products but could have more overlap ". When the article discusses Chrome it seems to be focused on Chrome the browser, not Chrome OS, which the linked Reuter's article [reuters.com] properly does. The original article discusses the differences between Chrome and Android, but none of these differences preclude merging or otherwise combining the OSes. In particular, it is very possible that Google at some time will support running Android apps on Chrome OS or running Chrome OS apps on Android.

Re:Linked article has little to say on the issue (4, Insightful)

roc97007 (608802) | 1 year,30 days | (#43242423)

More overlap is fine. The back end could be virtually identical (probably is already very similar) and developers would benefit. As long as they don't try to force us to use the android touch interface on non-touch chromebooks, we're golden.

Google appears to understand that presentation is a layer atop a collection of resources. Presentation is not the OS

Re:Linked article has little to say on the issue (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | 1 year,29 days | (#43245801)

Even Android doesn't force you to use the Android touch interface. Have you ever installed Android-x86? I wouldn't suggest you depend on it for anything, but it should be an eye-opener. But beyond that, you can plug a mouse into a modern Android device with host mode and get a pointer...

Re:Linked article has little to say on the issue (1)

roc97007 (608802) | 1 year,29 days | (#43248659)

> Have you ever installed Android-x86?

I have not, but I might soon. Daughter has a touch screen laptop with Win8 Pro, and we're both very unhappy with it. We have it on the network and talking to the printers, and I've figured out the registry change to get the apps to display, but the aspect ratio is still wrong, ACPI still doesn't work correctly and neither of us like the interface. Once I learn enough to deal with inevitable customer Win8 issues, this thing will get reimaged with something. Android might be a good choice.

So no, I don't know what Android x86 is like. I assumed it was Android, but, you know, on x86. If it's truly different, I should learn more about it.

Re:Linked article has little to say on the issue (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | 1 year,29 days | (#43249079)

So no, I don't know what Android x86 is like. I assumed it was Android, but, you know, on x86. If it's truly different, I should learn more about it.

It is Android, but, you know, on x86. And yet simply by dicking with the build.prop you get a system which behaves substantially differently from a phone. On the other hand, unless someone has gone the extra mile to get your particular hardware working, it typically won't work even a little bit.

Stating the obvious is required (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43241903)

Now that every idiot with an internet connection considers themselves a master of politics, business and strategy, technology, and usually also psychology.

Trolling only works properly because of this.

who gives a shit? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43242099)

more shiny things... ohhhhh ahhhhhhh

Um OK (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43242137)

This the same Eric who tried the say "Google Now" was submitted to Apples App Store and Apple was holding it up..... then it turned out that was FUD ?

OK, Got it... trust is important.

There is awesome shit going, but /. reports this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43242221)

Great so now / doesn't even need any real news, as long as it's from google.

gn44 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43242253)

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Browser (4, Informative)

markdavis (642305) | 1 year,30 days | (#43242411)

I think Chrome and Android have already merged. Chrome is the default browser in Android Linux, now.

Oh, perhaps they meant "Chrome OS" Linux?

fuck Google Brother (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43242553)

king of the spyware in doubleplus BAD, fuck google.

Consolidated Failure (1)

CuteSteveJobs (1343851) | 1 year,30 days | (#43242641)

> Schmidt's clarification confirmed that consolidating the two products would be, well, stupid.
That consolidation was exactly what Microsoft did with Windows and Explorer, and later with Vista and DirectX. Now look at Windows declining marketshare with fewer Windows applications. Too stupid to learn from their mistakes Microsoft are repeating the Vista disaster by withholding DirectX 11 from Windows 7, thinking if they keep DirectX 11 from it then everyone will upgrade to Windows 8. They haven't. OpenGL is the graphics system used on Android and iPhones. It has replaced DirectX as the future of graphics. Microsoft arrogantly consolidated platforms and paid the price when consumers wouldn't take their baggage. Google is wise to let each platform live or die on its own merits.

reply (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43242793)

good, i cannot agree with you more.

Schizo summary (2)

mattr (78516) | 1 year,30 days | (#43242919)

Is Slashdot berating Schmidt or thanking him?

"We Didn't Need Google's Schmidt To Tell Us Android and Chrome Wouldn't Merge"
"Thankfully, Google Chairman Eric Schmidt has announced"

Re:Schizo summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43242991)

"We Didn't Need Google's Schmidt To Tell Us Android and Chrome Wouldn't Merge"

because that would be stupid

"Thankfully, Google Chairman Eric Schmidt has announced"

Thankfully, Eric Schmidt isn't stupid

Seems consistent to me.

Re:Schizo summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43243795)

"We Didn't Need Google's Schmidt To Tell Us Android and Chrome Wouldn't Merge"

But obviously we needed someone to tell us that we didn't need him to tell us that... This must be the stupidest /. article EVER!

Re:Schizo summary (1)

fa2k (881632) | 1 year,29 days | (#43244627)

Of course we needed Schmidt to tell us that. It's easy to say we "knew" these things in hindsight. It would be like saying we didn't need the LHC because we knew the Higgs was there.

Moronic article (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43243227)

No-one thought Android and ChromeOS would 'merge' at a low level- classic strawman rubbish on Slashdot. The 'merge' that is both expected and needed has Android moving fully to notebooks and desktops, and the cloud services that ChromeOS currently provides becoming services that run under Android instead.

Google knows users want this. On the other hand, ChromeOS is the ultimate spy system, and gives Google the perfect 'control freak' computer OS. Chromebooks are currently doing very well, and there is little enough from Google's new projects divisions you can say that about.

Of course, users would settle for versions of Chromebook that can be properly rooted and converted to Android. The situation comes to a head later this year and onwards when really powerful ARM SoC parts start to become commonplace. Linux is doing a truly lousy job at replacing Windows, and the best of current Linux is x86 centric. The rise of ARM is a golden opportunity for the dominance of Windows to be finally ended, and Android is the perfect candidate to achieve this. However, Google's reputation for screwing up excellent opportunities is legendary.

If Google chooses to waste another year without properly backing desktop Android, initiatives like Valve's Steambox may finally force Linux to get its act together, and produce the the dominant consumer ARM desktop OS.

Tough question for Schmidt (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,30 days | (#43243283)

Well, duh, but I'm sure Schmidt felt very self-satisfied at answering that question.

Dice /. team are you listening? (1)

symbolset (646467) | 1 year,30 days | (#43243675)

You know when I said you should market the fuck out of /. to get profits and keep the lights on? How you could put ads over the top, down the side and over the foot and I was good with that? I was sincere about that. The previous owners didn't make the most of what they had. You're entitled to make money and there's a lot of opportunity here. I pay to be a member and then let the ads show up anyway. When the ads are pertinent to my interests I click on them, and sometimes I spend money.

But if you guys want to put popovers on here, or floating ads that obscure the content, then fuck you. We're not going to put up with that. You need to fix this shit post haste.

Re:Dice /. team are you listening? (1)

turp182 (1020263) | 1 year,29 days | (#43245113)

Start running Ghostery. Yeah, it will block the ads (which I have also clicked on in the past, but no more), but it also prevents most popups as well as cross site tracking in general.

Sometimes issues such as these must be addressed by the Individual, not the Organization (or Corporation). The Organization will do as it pleases, and so will the Individuals. So it goes...

For the record, I've never seen a popover ad on Slashdot.

Call me stupid (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | 1 year,29 days | (#43244259)

Schmidt stated the obvious, but if you are a developer and you took the bait and thought the rumors might be true, you already read enough of Google Chrome or Google Android documentation before Schmidt's clarification and confirmed that consolidating the two products would be, well, stupid.

As a developer, obviously I've read both the Chrome and Android documentation, as well as the Windows, OS-X, Linux, i-OS, FireFox and Safari documentation. It's a wonder I get any development done at all.
So to me it just seems incredibly obvious the utter and total stupidity of consolidating an OS, one of whose primary purposes it is to display websites with a webbrowser, whose primary purpose it is to display websites.
It's almost as stupid as Windows trying to integrate Internet Explorer or OS-X integrating Safari.
What's next? integrating web technology into the desktop? Don't be silly!

Kies anyone? (1)

nbgm (2558441) | 1 year,29 days | (#43244343)

Have you noticed Samsung Kies app installed on all models (except Google phones)? It has disable keylock permission and cannot be uninstalled. Apparently if you have Kies installed on your PC you can unlock any Samsung phone that has Kies over USB without having to know the screen lock or the Google password.

Developer view vs. manger view (1)

drolli (522659) | 1 year,29 days | (#43244487)

Schmidt stated the obvious, but if you are a developer and you took the bait and thought the rumors might be true, you already read enough of Google Chrome or Google Android documentation before Schmidt's clarification and confirmed that consolidating the two products would be, well, stupid."

Yes. Developers who read documentaiton may have known it. Mangers however may get excited on the idea that they understand the world know that everything is open source and linux.

More stuff we didn't need to know (1)

coldsalmon (946941) | 1 year,29 days | (#43246503)

We didn't need Slashdot to tell us We Didn't Need Google's Schmidt To Tell Us Android and Chrome Wouldn't Merge

Chrome OS as security playground for Android (1)

daboochmeister (914039) | 1 year,29 days | (#43247285)

Android has taken it on the chin from a security perspective, even though most of that relates to poor user choices. Chrome OS has some interesting and significant security-related architecture and implementation in place. I'm very sure that one fertile area of cross-pollination will be to port the kernel and configuration changes in Chrome OS into the Android environment.

Cross-pollination in the opposite direction? Harder to see, other than the ability to run Android apps on Chrome OS (which isn't really a merging of features).

who cares what Schmidt says? (1)

stenvar (2789879) | 1 year,29 days | (#43247487)

Android and Chrome teams: "We think it would be good to merge our two codebases. It would make development easier, Android is almost a superset of Chrome already anyway, and would give us a larger base of apps and app developers."

Schmidt: "No, you can't do that! I PROMISED people that the two wouldn't get merged."

Yeah, right.

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