Beta

×

Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

US Gov't To Scan More Civilian Infrastructure Traffic

timothy posted about a year ago | from the boy-this-slope-sure-feels-slippery dept.

Government 115

helix2301 writes with this snippet from NBC News: "The U.S. government is expanding a cybersecurity program that scans Internet traffic headed into and out of defense contractors to include far more of the country's private, civilian-run infrastructure. As a result, more private sector employees than ever before, including those at big banks, utilities and key transportation companies, will have their emails and Web surfing scanned as a precaution against cyber attacks." Further on, the story notes that "By using DHS as the middleman, the Obama administration hopes to bring the formidable overseas intelligence-gathering of the NSA closer to ordinary U.S. residents without triggering an outcry from privacy advocates who have long been leery of the spy agency's eavesdropping."

cancel ×

115 comments

Sorry! There are no comments related to the filter you selected.

yeah, makes perfect sense (4, Funny)

new death barbie (240326) | about a year ago | (#43254331)

'cause everybody trusts the DHS.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254443)

'cause everybody trusts the DHS.

and scanning other people's email isn't a violation of privacy or a "cyber attack"

More sarcasm fodder to come from Washington.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254641)

"more private sector employees than ever before, including those at big banks, utilities and key transportation companies, will have their emails and Web surfing scanned as a precaution against cyber attacks"

I don't follow the logic of this. Scanning our people's stuff is going to protect us from outside attacks, or attacks by outside agencies done by their people here? How so?

"The Department of Homeland Security will gather the secret data and pass it to a small group of telecommunication companies and cyber security providers that have employees holding security clearances, government and industry officials said. Those companies will then offer to process email and other Internet transmissions for critical infrastructure customers that choose to participate in the program."

So we, that is, our own government agencies, don't have the manpower, equipment, or expertise, or some combination, so the secret info from the various intel folks will be used to determine the scans mentioned in first quote, then the scans' results will pass to a private group that's going to offer to do - what, exactly? - for those who might be affected, if, that is, they join up somehow, somewhere?

All I can make of it is a foot in the door kind of thing, scan hell out of biz/personal e-stuff, pass it through a clearinghouse of interested parties, and use it for something something. Oh, yeah, to protect us from some cyber. This whole thing seems inside-out and backwards. Then it's "you're with us or against us (nice cyber you got there, hate to see some cyber done to it)" all done by selling one thing, calling it another, and actually doing a third thing. I think.

Can someone clarify this shit?

clarifying that shit (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255659)

The idea is really not to prevent law breaking but instead provide justification after the fact.

Say or do something that offends officialdom? Now your past actions can be used against you.

If you were watching TV and some plot point about exposives happen and you decide to go search on that plot point - now officialdom can claim you are a wannabe terrorist and place you under lock and key and THEN state how wonderful the new system is, because it prevented you from getting the explosives you expressed an interest in.

Officialdom is scared and is adding to the framework to attempt to control challengers to their authority. You may not due the time but you'll ride the ride is the buzzphrase of the day.

(note how Aaron didn't do the time and in the end wanted off the ride the DOJ put him on)

Re:clarifying that shit (1)

reboot246 (623534) | about a year ago | (#43255781)

I have no mod points right this minute, but that was one of the most truthful things I've ever seen posted here.

One sure way to control a population is to make everybody guilty of something, even if it's a made up crime. We're all terrorists in the eyes of government. They're broadening the term every day. So, citizen, go along with what we say or suffer the consequences.

And notice how the evil is not so much the politicians who are elected, but the bureaucrats who are not.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255671)

Can someone clarify this shit?

The cyberwar boogie man is prompting Very Serious People to act. They need to do be seen doing something and they stick to what used to work in the 70's: more surveillance, more spying of your own people for their own benefit. Never mind that wont make any difference whatsoever and certainly leads to a full blown surveillance state. They only have the surveillance hammer and are looking around for nails.

Some alternate suggestions that would make indeed a difference:
1. Make credit card companies liable for fraud, instead of passing the loss to businesses as chargebacks; this will motivate them to secure their infrastructure and cut a major source of funding for the criminal underworld, thus lowering demand on black market vulnerabilities.
2. Make companies liable for the data they leak as a result of failing to properly secure their infrastructure
3. Decriminalize unauthorized penetration testing, as long as no data is stolen and the whole reported to the affected company or the authorities. Imagine that: you are not only liable for any data breach, but there are thousands of skidies all trying to get it for fun and fame. It's like antibodies fighting disease.
3. Hold public vulnerability finding contests in popular software and reward exploit writers. The best and brightest will work for us instead of against us.
4. Demand a high level of security in government acquired software and financially penalize vendor for holes. 'No warranty, no liability' my ass.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43257641)

Highly rational, reasonable, and specific suggestions all pulled together in cogent, coherent manner. Wonderful, thank you.

Only one in Congress who I can feature using this might be Al Franken.

Unfortunately, or maybe because, your suggestions make good sense, I fear none of them will never happen.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255705)

If you go out and by an adaptive firewall that updates its blocking lists based upon input from a vendor, the vendor is actually generating those lists via listening posts located all over the US installed in data centers, honeypots, small companies, et-cetra. When an attacker, for example, begins port scanning a large range addresses at different companies methodically the listening posts notice, and the vendor automatically updates your firewall block list with the ip range. Hence the reason when your mail server gets compromised and you start sending spam to thousands of people, you're blacklisted in short order and it lasts a few hours, days or weeks.

The idea here is to pass all the critical infrastructure traffic through a single device to make correlating attacks easier to see and detect. Some attacks are a single packet in size and there's no easy way to see exactly what's going on. Employee's of these organizations are being targeted.

For example your previous break-in allowed you to get a list of employee's, job titles, work locations, et-cetra. From there you can target a group of retired/currently working people. You break into the retiree's e-mail accounts and send e-mails to current employee's that look OK, but have a 1x1 tracking jpg embedded in it that gives you their IP Address. You then target the current employee's personal system either by directly attacking it, or paying your russian partners whom are in doubleclick or adclicks systems to infect it with a rootkit when said employee's kid goes to CNN.com and loads a banner ad. After a few weeks you've got root on that machine, and when they bring their laptop home and attach it to the local wireless network, you infect it with a virus that simultaniously trashes your updating software, disables the most recent version of the antivirus, and makes everything look normal to your scanning utilities until the user complains to your helpdesk about "well this button worked before but now it's broken". Now you have penetration into the corporate network, and you begin sending normal-looking http requests out and normal-looking http responses in to control your rootkit. From there you perform the network recon and attempt to remain persistent.

What they're doing is getting several companies to corroborate traffic on a consistent platform so your firewall people can flag machines sending said normal-looking http traffic; once it's flagged, the help desk people nuke the box.

With that said, all the government is doing here is getting all the utilities onto one security vendor. The concept of multiple security vendors offering services is flawed as not everyone is able to adjust to every problem, as is the concept of a single vendor providing the service for critical partners. But, if you want to spot the traffic before it becomes a real nuisance, everyone needs to pool resources.

I, of course, trust the Chinese government more than I trust the US government at this point; at least with them you know they're going to act like self-serving bastards. Seriously, most governments don't have credibility left and with the kind of black-flag BS we've seen the US govt participate in for the last few years, in addition failing to but bankers in jail, gives me the gut feeling this is a bad thing more than good.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255779)

"more private sector employees than ever before, including those at big banks, utilities and key transportation companies, will have their emails and Web surfing scanned as a precaution against cyber attacks"

I don't follow the logic of this. Scanning our people's stuff is going to protect us from outside attacks, or attacks by outside agencies done by their people here? How so?

"The Department of Homeland Security will gather the secret data and pass it to a small group of telecommunication companies and cyber security providers that have employees holding security clearances, government and industry officials said. Those companies will then offer to process email and other Internet transmissions for critical infrastructure customers that choose to participate in the program."

So we, that is, our own government agencies, don't have the manpower, equipment, or expertise, or some combination, so the secret info from the various intel folks will be used to determine the scans mentioned in first quote, then the scans' results will pass to a private group that's going to offer to do - what, exactly? - for those who might be affected, if, that is, they join up somehow, somewhere?

All I can make of it is a foot in the door kind of thing, scan hell out of biz/personal e-stuff, pass it through a clearinghouse of interested parties, and use it for something something. Oh, yeah, to protect us from some cyber. This whole thing seems inside-out and backwards. Then it's "you're with us or against us (nice cyber you got there, hate to see some cyber done to it)" all done by selling one thing, calling it another, and actually doing a third thing. I think.

Can someone clarify this shit?

Why even bother.

FACT: The government is going to do whatever the fuck they want to do. Constitution? That's a nice tourist attraction.

FACT: The government is going to tell you whatever they want to tell you. That doesn't mean shit, and information is still classified that we will never know.

Good luck trying to figure out what the fuck they're really going to monitor and do. By the time you find out, the drone will have vaporized the issue anyway, along with any rights you thought you had to do anything about it.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43257681)

Thanks to all who tried to make sense of this stuff for me. I appreciate the thoughts and thoughtful suggestions about what is involved and what _ought_ to be done to truly do something useful without endangering or penalizing the we the people.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (1)

RougeFemme (2871421) | about a year ago | (#43260447)

Government doesn't have the manpower because legislators think 1 of 3 things: 1)should it be done? no; starve the budget 2)should it be done? no, but if it's going to be done, someone should make huge profits so let's privatize it. 3)should it be done? I don't know/care, but if it's going to be done, someone should make huge profits so let's privatize it. 4)should it be done? yes, and someone should make huge profits so let's privatize it.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254627)

'cause everybody trusts the DHS.

While it would be nice to believe that this is sarcasm, and while most slashdotters don't trust the DHS, most nongeeks do trust the DHS. And there's whole, "If you don't have anything to hide then who cares..." that most people believe in.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254919)

'cause everybody trusts the DHS.

While it would be nice to believe that this is sarcasm, and while most slashdotters don't trust the DHS, most nongeeks do trust the DHS. And there's whole, "If you don't have anything to hide then who cares..." that most people believe in.

Is it not a tauntingly ironic remark? Does sarcasm not often sail over the heads of the members of its target audience? As you pointed out as well, it was said here. If they truly have nothing to hide, then the brilliant and gorgeous exhibitionists should show up for the next local High School pep rally meeting in the nude and pass out copies of your bank statements etc on the way.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255117)

What are you hiding in the bathroom? Remove the doors and install clear see through windows. We've all seen what private parts look like.

Why don't all women walk around with clear see-through purses? What are they hiding? Surely you won't mind all the thugs at the local mall seeing your prized possessions in your purse.... privacy? Bah, that's hiding something! As someone completely out of the target scope (I'm a male) I'll happily vote away your non-clear-purse rights. Just like senators who live lives nothing like ours, vote away our liberties.

See how it works?

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (1, Funny)

davester666 (731373) | about a year ago | (#43255399)

"I'm from the government and I'm here to keep you safe."

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (1)

RougeFemme (2871421) | about a year ago | (#43260413)

Plus, how many private sector employees expect privacy, anyway? Yes, I know the "slippery slope" argument, but I know that my emails and websurfing are being monitored at work anyway - by INTERNAL security. The fact that DHS is stepping in is not a huge deal. Monitoring me at home? Problem. At work? I don't care. It's my employer's equipment, infrastructure, etc.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254797)

'cause everybody trusts the DHS.

...and they truly love the Obama administration too, but they really do.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (1)

ixuzus (2418046) | about a year ago | (#43254943)

Now if the DHS is a trusted system to banking, infrastructure, utilities, etc then all your enemies have to do is compromise the DHS and they get the keys to everything.

Re:yeah, makes perfect sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255799)

So now we know Obama IS the anti-Christ.

Encrypt everything (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254359)

If you aren't browsing over a VPN with HTTPS / SSL and transmitting all your data encrypted by this point you ought to be.

Re:Encrypt everything (2)

c0lo (1497653) | about a year ago | (#43254661)

If you aren't browsing over a VPN with HTTPS / SSL and transmitting all your data encrypted by this point you ought to be.

Why? After all, if you have nothing to hide and you set your evil bit [ietf.org] to zero, the DHS won't intercept your traffic.

I mean: nobody is so crazy to waste citizens' money on intercepting and storing everyone's communication, the investment and maintenance cost will be everly increasing.
And for what? After all it is only the traffic caused by hackers that would be interesting, not honest citizens' traffic. And the institutions/companies have already organized their own defense, as any good citizen does (e.g. installing locks and buying riffles); this along with paying their taxes (for supporting the infrastructure development and research and whatnot), behaving responsibly (e.g. avoiding the externalization of their cost of environment protection or defending their infrastructure), etc.

(grin)

Re:Encrypt everything (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254731)

And, minus the sarcasm, that is the argument for government takeover. :(

You have nothing to hide, right?

Re:Encrypt everything (1, Insightful)

Cosgrach (1737088) | about a year ago | (#43255173)

I mean: nobody is so crazy to waste citizens' money on intercepting and storing everyone's communication, the investment and maintenance cost will be everly increasing.

Wanna bet? They will simply take the money from some 'unimportant' department that actually provides some sort of public service. Sorry guys, you can't have money for cancer research, because we are going to snoop through your e-mails. You had better believe it.

Re:Encrypt everything (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43256829)

I mean: nobody is so crazy to waste citizens' money on intercepting and storing everyone's communication, the investment and maintenance cost will be everly increasing.

Wanna bet? They will simply ... etc

(whooosh??? Of course I'm not that naive to bet on it, you really thought I was serious??)

Re:Encrypt everything (1)

Cosgrach (1737088) | about a year ago | (#43261113)

Sometimes it is difficult to tell.

Re:Encrypt everything (2)

Seumas (6865) | about a year ago | (#43255295)

Agreed. The government is all about fiscal accountability and doesn't waste money or spend money it doesn't have.

Re:Encrypt everything (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254671)

Yes, so you won't stand out of the crowd. Wouldn't want to become a person of interest.

What's that guy's sig, about the 2nd law of thermodynamics? Something like, "you can't win, you can't even break even, and you can't quit."? Good luck to you, sir. I wish you the best. It's not that you're wrong, not at all; just too late, I think.

Re:Encrypt everything (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254729)

Defining entropy as disorder's not complete,
'cause disorder as a definition doesn't cover heat.
So my first definition I would now like to withdraw,
and offer one that fits thermodynamics second law.
First we need to understand that entropy is energy,
energy that can't be used to state it more specifically.
In a closed system entropy always goes up,
that's the second law, now you know what's up.

You can't win, you can't break even, you can't leave the game,
'cause entropy will take it all 'though it seems a shame.
The second law, as we now know, is quite clear to state,
that entropy must increase and not dissipate.

Creationists always try to use the second law,
to disprove evolution, but their theory has a flaw.
The second law is quite precise about where it applies,
only in a closed system must the entropy count rise.
The earth's not a closed system' it's powered by the sun,
so fuck the damn creationists, Doomsday get my gun!
That, in a nutshell, is what entropy's about,
you're now down with a discount.

You down with entropy?
Yeah, you know me!
Who's down with entropy?
Every last homey!

Re:Encrypt everything (2)

TheSeatOfMyPants (2645007) | about a year ago | (#43255239)

Just using a VPN isn't enough -- most of them hand over user data to the US government without question when asked [torrentfreak.com] , regardless of whether the VPN account was free or paid and even if the VPN company and all of its servers are located in other parts of the world. (Yes, the article was focused on the use of VPNs for file-sharing, but the lesson remains the same: don't trust them to protect your personal data from your government.)

Re:Encrypt everything (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43256641)

Um, I read your link, some (Private Internet Access for example) will share everything they log - which is nothing - whenever asked (via a court order, not like that is hard to get), am I missing something? Shared IPs + no logs == share all the (nonexistant) data you want.

A good hosts file will usually block their attempt (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254373)

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

* POOR SHOWING TROLLS, & most especially IF that's the "best you've got" - apparently, it is... lol!

Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputation as a professional in this field clearly shows in multiple publications in this field in written print, & also online in various GOOD capacities since 1996 to present day. This has happened since I was first published in Playgirl Magazine in 1996 & others to present day, with helpful tools online in programs, & professionally sold warez that were finalists @ Westminster Dog Show 2000-2002.

INCONTROVERTIBLE FEEDBACK PROVIDING ESTABLISHED PROOF OF ALL MY POINTS:

--

That was amazing. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948073 [slashdot.org]

--

My, God! It's beatiful. Keep it up, you glorious bastard. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41835161 [slashdot.org]

--

Let us bask in its glory. A true modern The Wasteland. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948579 [slashdot.org]

--

put your baby IN ME -- I just read this whole thing. Fuck mod points, WHERE DO I SEND YOU MY MONEY?!!! - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40950023 [slashdot.org]

--

Oh shit, Time Cube Guy's into computers now... - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946259 [slashdot.org]

--

He's done more to discredit the use of HOSTS files than anyone in the "do it right and set up a firewall" crowd ever could. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357 [slashdot.org]

--

Can I have some of what you're on? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40947587 [slashdot.org]

--

this obnoxious fucknuts [apk] has been trolling the internet and spamming his shit delphi sub-fart app utilities for 15 years. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954565 [slashdot.org]

--

oh come on.. this is hilarious. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40955479 [slashdot.org]

--

I agree I am intrigued by these host files how do I sign up for your newsletter? - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40961339 [slashdot.org]

--

Gimme the program that generates this epic message. I'll buy 5 of your product if you do... - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954251 [slashdot.org]

--

As mentioned by another AC up there, the troll in question is actually a pretty well-executed mashup of APK's style - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357 [slashdot.org]

--

It's actually a very clever parody of APK - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40944229 [slashdot.org]

--

Please keep us updated on your AI research, you seem quite good at it. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40944603 [slashdot.org]

--

$20,000 to anyone providing proof of Alexander Peter Kowalski's death. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958289 [slashdot.org]

--

Obviously, it must be Alexander Peter Kowalski. He's miffed at all these imposters... - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958429 [slashdot.org]

--

And here I was thinking I was having a bad experience with a Dr. Bronner's bottle. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952247 [slashdot.org]

--

Damn, apk, who the fuck did you piss off this time? Hahahahaahahahahahahaahaha. Pass the popcorn as the troll apk gets pwned relentlessly. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954673 [slashdot.org]

--

I think it's the Internet, about to become sentient. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40956187 [slashdot.org]

--

Does anyone know if OpenGL has been ported to Windows yet? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956781 [slashdot.org]

--

golfclap - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40900827 [slashdot.org]

--

The Truth! wants to be Known! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897389 [slashdot.org]

--

DNS cube? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897493 [slashdot.org]

--

KUDOS valiant AC. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897777 [slashdot.org]

--

Polyploid lovechild of APK, MyCleanPC, and Time Cube --> fail counter integer overflow --> maximum win! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40899171 [slashdot.org]

--

You made my day, thanks! - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029589&cid=40896469 [slashdot.org]

--

Wow. The perfect mix of trolls. Timecube, mycleanpc, gnaa, apk... this is great! - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3027333&cid=40893381 [slashdot.org]

--

truer words were never spoken as /. trolls are struck speechless by it, lol! - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=41041795 [slashdot.org]

--

It's APK himself trying to maintain the illusion that he's still relevant. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967209 [slashdot.org]

--

Mod this up. The back and forth multi posting between APK and this "anti-APK" certainly does look like APK talking to himself. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40969175 [slashdot.org]

--

APK himself would be at the top of a sensible person's ban list. He's been spamming and trolling Slashdot for years. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967137 [slashdot.org]

--

You got that right. I think. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3044971&cid=40972239 [slashdot.org]

--

Michael Kristopeit, is that you? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3045075&cid=40972377 [slashdot.org]

--

ROFL! :) (Now the sick bastard will follow me again) - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41429251 [slashdot.org]

--

I miss Dr Bob. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432027 [slashdot.org]

--

Not sure if actually crazy, or just pretending to be crazy. Awesome troll either way. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432951 [slashdot.org]

--

Awesome! Hat off to you, sir! - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41509273 [slashdot.org]

--

That isn't a parody of Time-cube, it is an effort to counter-troll a prolific poster named APK, who seems like a troll himself, although is way too easy to troll into wasting massive amounts of time on BS not far from the exaggerations above - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41514107 [slashdot.org]

--

I am intrigued and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3164403&cid=41555345 [slashdot.org]

--

1. You philistine, that is Art . Kudos to you, valiant troll on your glorious FP - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832599 [slashdot.org]

--

What? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832673 [slashdot.org]

--

I don't know if it is poorly-thought-out, but it is demented because it is at the same time an APK parody. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832905 [slashdot.org]

--

It is in fact an extremely well thought out and brilliantly executed APK parody, combined with a Time Cube parody, and with a sprinkling of the MyCleanPC spam. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41841251 [slashdot.org]

--

er... many people have disproved your points about hosts files with well reasoned, factual arguments. You just chose not to listen and made it into some kind of bizarre crusade. And I'm not the timecube guy, just someone else who finds you intensely obnoxious and likes winding you up to waste your time. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41843313 [slashdot.org]

--

performance art - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847089 [slashdot.org]

--

it's apk, theres no reason to care. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847097 [slashdot.org]

--

Seems more like an apk parody. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847661 [slashdot.org]

--

That's great but what about the risk of subluxations? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847101 [slashdot.org]

--

Oh, come on. Just stand back and look at it. It's almost art, in a Jackson Pollock sort of way. - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41868923 [slashdot.org]

--

Read carefully. This is a satirical post, that combines the last several years of forum trolling, rolled into one FUNNY rant! - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41864711 [slashdot.org]

--

I can has summary? - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41861327 [slashdot.org]

--

I'd have a lot more sympathy if you would log in as APK again instead of AC. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41868133 [slashdot.org]

--

If [apk] made an account, it would be permanently posting at -1, and he'd only be able to post with it twice a day. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41869409 [slashdot.org]

--

DAFUQ I just look at? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869085 [slashdot.org]

--

Trolls trolling trolls... it's like Inception or something. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869353 [slashdot.org]

--

We all know it's you, apk. Stop pretending to antagonize yourself. - http://bsd.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229179&cid=41869305 [slashdot.org]

--

Do you know about the shocking connection between APK and arsenic? No? Well, your innocence is about to be destroyed. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3472971&cid=42939965 [slashdot.org]

--

Send bug reports to 903 east division street, syracuse, ny 13208 - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3483339&cid=42972783 [slashdot.org]

--

Now you've made me all nostalgic for USENET. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42981977 [slashdot.org]

--

Google APK Hosts File Manager. He's written a fucking application to manage your hosts file. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42984521 [slashdot.org]

--

In case you are not aware, the post is a satire of a fellow known as APK. The grammar used is modeled after APK's as you can see here [thorschrock.com] . Or, you can just look around a bit and see some of his posts on here about the wonders of host files. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42983119 [slashdot.org]

--

You are surely of God of Trolls, whomever you are. I have had stupid arguments with and bitten the troll apk many times. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486901&cid=42989683 [slashdot.org]

--

"What kind of meds cure schizophrenic drunk rambling?" -> "Whatever APK isn't taking" - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028403 [slashdot.org] http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028425 [slashdot.org]

--

I'm confused, is apk trolling himself now? - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43029495 [slashdot.org]

--

Excellent mashup. A++. Would troll again. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3503531&cid=43037445 [slashdot.org]

--

Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43048291 [slashdot.org]

--

Best. Troll. Ever. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43044811 [slashdot.org]

--

I like monkeys. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43051505 [slashdot.org]

--

This is one of the funniest things I've ever read. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43052263 [slashdot.org]

--

lul wut? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3510265&cid=43057839 [slashdot.org]

--

I admire this guy's persistence. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063797 [slashdot.org]

--

It's a big remix of several different crackpots from Slashdot and elsewhere, plus a liberal sprinkling of famous Slashdot trolls and old memes. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063881 [slashdot.org]

--

Tabloid newspapers have speculated for years that APK is a prominent supporter of Monsanto. Too bad we didn't believe them sooner! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063893 [slashdot.org]

--

Here's a hint, check out stories like this one [slashdot.org] , where over 200 of the 247 posts are rated zero or -1 because they are either from two stupid trolls arguing endless, or quite likely one troll arguing with himself for attention. The amount of off-topic posts almost outnumber on topic ones by 4 to 1. Posts like the above are popular for trolling APK, since if you say his name three times, he appears, and will almost endlessly feed trolls. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43064383 [slashdot.org]

--

I love this copypasta so much. It never fails to make me smile. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3512099&cid=43069271 [slashdot.org]

--

^ Champion Mod parent up. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3513659&cid=43067371 [slashdot.org]

--

I appreciate the time cube reference, and how you tied it into the story. Well done. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3521721&cid=43094565 [slashdot.org]

--

The day you are silenced is the day freedom dies on Slashdot. God bless. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522191&cid=43097221 [slashdot.org]

--

AHahahahah thanks for that, cut-n-pasted.... Ownage! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522219&cid=43097215 [slashdot.org]

--

Don't hate the player, hate the game. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3526293&cid=43110679 [slashdot.org]

--

If you're familiar with APK, the post itself is a pretty damn funny parody. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115215 [slashdot.org]

--

">implying it's not apk posting it" --> "I'd seriously doubt he's capable of that level of self-deprecation..." - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115337 [slashdot.org] http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115363 [slashdot.org]

--

No, the other posts are linked in a parody of APK's tendency to quote himself, numbnuts. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43116855 [slashdot.org]

--

The thirteenth link is broken. Please fix it. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115361 [slashdot.org]

--

Just ban any post with "apk", "host file", or "hosts file", as that would take care of the original apk too. The original has been shitposting Slashdot much longer & more intensively than the parody guy. Or ban all Tor exit nodes, as they both use Tor to circumvent IP bans. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216431 [slashdot.org]

--

Sadly this is closer to on-topic than an actual APK post is. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216225 [slashdot.org]

--

YOU ARE A GOD AMONG MEN. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43236143 [slashdot.org]

--

I've butted heads with APK myself, and yeah, the guy's got issues - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569173&cid=43236987 [slashdot.org]

--

Can I be in your quote list? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569443&cid=43237531 [slashdot.org]

--

Clearly you are not an Intertubes engineer, otherwise the parent post would be more meaningful to you. Why don't YOU take your meds? - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569425&cid=43238177 [slashdot.org]

--

+2 for style! The bolding, italicizing, and font changes are all spot-on - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43238479 [slashdot.org]

--

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570085&cid=43243509 [slashdot.org]

--

APK is not really a schizophrenic fired former Windows administrator with multiple personality disorder and TimeCube/Art Bell refugee. He's a fictional character like and put forward by the same person as Goatse Guy, GNAA trolls, Dr. Bob and so forth. His purpose is to test the /. CAPTCA algorithm, which is a useful purpose. If you're perturbed by having to scroll past his screeds just set your minimum point level to 1, as his posts are pretty automatically downmodded right away. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570085&cid=43243145 [slashdot.org]

--

Anyone else think that sounds like Ron Paul? - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569419&cid=43242417 [slashdot.org]

--

I just saw APK a couple days ago. He surfaced, blew once, and submerged... - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570111&cid=43245913 [slashdot.org]

--

You make mikael christ the pet look like an huggable teddy bear - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570111&cid=43242373 [slashdot.org]

--

oh man, that incredible interminable list of responses is almost as funny as the original post. This is getting to be truly epic. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247231 [slashdot.org]

--

"Does anyone know of an Adblock rule for this?" -> "No, but I bet there's a hosts file entry for it..." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43246997 [slashdot.org] http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247097 [slashdot.org]

--

"Can a hosts file block apk's posts, though?" -> "The universe couldn't handle that much irony." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247135 [slashdot.org] http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247219 [slashdot.org]

--

"That's it, I've had enough. ... Bye everyone, most of the last decade or so has been fun, but frankly, I quit." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247225 [slashdot.org]
--> "So basically what you're saying is that you've added yourself to the HOST file?" - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247481 [slashdot.org]

--

Sweet baby Moses, this is beautiful work - I wish we could get trolls as good as this on TF. :) - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572629&cid=43247533 [slashdot.org]

--

you have a point - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247823 [slashdot.org]

--

I do admire that level of dedication. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247765 [slashdot.org]

--

[to apk] shut up you stupid cock. Everyone knows you're wrong. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43250533 [slashdot.org]

--

I will hand it to him, he is definitely consistent. I wish I knew how he did this. That thing is scary huge. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572629&cid=43250411 [slashdot.org]

--

I admire the amount of dedication you've shown - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573571&cid=43251593 [slashdot.org]

--

Word is, ESR buttfucks CmdrTaco with his revolver. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573679&cid=43252957 [slashdot.org]

--

Did you see the movie "Pokemon"? Actually the induced night "dream world" is synonymous with the academic religious induced "HOSTS file" enslavement of DNS. Domains have no inherent value, as it was invented as a counterfeit and fictitious value to represent natural values in name resolution. Unfortunately, human values have declined to fictitious word values. Unknowingly, you are living in a "World Wide Web", as in a fictitious life in a counterfeit Internet - which you could consider APK induced "HOSTS file". Can you distinguish the academic induced root server from the natural OpenDNS? Beware of the change when your brain is free from HOSTS file enslavement - for you could find that the natural Slashdot has been destroyed!!

FROM -> Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

So long nummynuts, sorry to have to kick your nuts up into your head verbally speaking.

cower in my shadow some more, feeb. you're completely pathetic.

Disproof of all apk's statements:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040729&cid=40949719 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040697&cid=40949343 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040597&cid=40948659 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40947927 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040425&cid=40946755 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946043 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40942439 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3024445&cid=40942207 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40942031 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038601&cid=40942085 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040803&cid=40950045 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040867&cid=40950563 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40950839 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041035&cid=40951899 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952169 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041091&cid=40952383 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40952991 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954201 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956625 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897177 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029589&cid=40894889 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3027333&cid=40886171 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042451&cid=40959497 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042547&cid=40960279 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042669&cid=40962027 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965091 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=40965087 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967049 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3044971&cid=40972117 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3044971&cid=40972271 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3045075&cid=40972313 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3045349&cid=40973979 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3046181&cid=40978835 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3046211&cid=40979293 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3050711&cid=41002319 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3118863&cid=41341925 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3131751&cid=41397971 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41429005 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3146511&cid=41469199 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3146549&cid=41469495 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41509255 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3164403&cid=41555261 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832417 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41846971 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41861263 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228787&cid=41866351 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228683&cid=41866627 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41866737 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41868513 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41868567 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229179&cid=41869275 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229765&cid=41872927 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3472971&cid=42939773 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3483339&cid=42972349 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42981835 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486901&cid=42988415 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3500483&cid=43026797 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028205 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3503531&cid=43033535 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3504883&cid=43040365 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43044767 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3507727&cid=43048175 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3507873&cid=43049019 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43051385 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3509683&cid=43054221 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3510265&cid=43056879 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063711 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3512099&cid=43066627 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3513659&cid=43066843 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3521721&cid=43094323 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3521669&cid=43094855 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3521797&cid=43096277 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522191&cid=43096733 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522219&cid=43097179 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522851&cid=43101761 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3523181&cid=43103421 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3526293&cid=43109809 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3526893&cid=43114659 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115059 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528811&cid=43116535 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216155 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569095&cid=43234975 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569109&cid=43235533 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3554655&cid=43201719 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3554655&cid=43209405 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43236007 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=0020721&cid=43236047 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569235&cid=43236165 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569173&cid=43236409 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569419&cid=43237015 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569443&cid=43237473 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569425&cid=43237999 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569681&cid=43238497 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570077&cid=43240555 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570111&cid=43241141 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570085&cid=43241705 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570537&cid=43245089 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43246739 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572629&cid=43247187 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573571&cid=43251295 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573679&cid=43252247 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573983&cid=43253705 [slashdot.org]
AND MANY MORE

--

* :)

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words!

P.S.=> That's what makes me LAUGH harder than ANYTHING ELSE on this forums (full of "FUD" spreading trolls) - When you hit trolls with facts & truths they CANNOT disprove validly on computing tech based grounds, this is the result - Applying unjustifiable downmods to effetely & vainly *try* to "hide" my posts & facts/truths they extoll!

Hahaha... lol , man: Happens nearly every single time I post such lists (proving how ineffectual these trolls are), only showing how solid my posts of that nature are...

That's the kind of martial arts I practice.

Re:A good hosts file will usually block their atte (1)

bmk67 (971394) | about a year ago | (#43255143)

Seek. Professional. Help.

Re:A good hosts file will usually block their atte (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43256211)

Actually I'd prefer if he'd just kill himself.

Re:A good hosts file will usually block their atte (1)

XB-70 (812342) | about a year ago | (#43255855)

Mental health is not a joke. The above is a classic case where an individual, probably extremely bright, is likely off their meds and suffering terribly. For the huge cost of the DHS, they should be doing something positive: track down the originating IP of the above missive, dispatch an emergency mental health team and give this individual the compassionate care and attention that they need instead of flagging every grandmother's email to her children back home that says "Allah be praised.".

.

We do do that, don't we?

Re:A good hosts file will usually block their atte (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43257043)

You provide many references, which is good. But the problem is that your post is unintelligible. It's wordy, has no structure....... frankly, I don't know what the hell you're saying.

Americans paying for big biz cheapness (2)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254451)

So, big business implements half ass computer security for its infrastructure, at a lower cost. This could have been the logical business decision, especially with constantly changing computer technology. However, China, and increasingly other nations, are now going after security holes, and changes in computer technology have slowed down.

However, for the American People to pay for the incompetance of half ass measures of big business is something else. Just, like the bank bailouts of 2008. This country has been going downhill since Bush jr. got elected.

Re:Americans paying for big biz cheapness (4, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#43254585)

The run for the bottom started way earlier, you can't blame the chimp for everything. Looking at the US for the past decades, I dare say the whole mess started with Reagan or no later than Bush Sr.

What this country, or any country, could well need is the kind of politicians we had after WW2. Say what you want, I still think Eisenhower was the best since 45.

Re:Americans paying for big biz cheapness (1)

jafac (1449) | about a year ago | (#43255035)

It started with the Lewis Powell Memo, in 1972. (Powell was the head of the US Chamber of Commerce - then was a Nixon appointee to SCOTUS).

Re:Americans paying for big biz cheapness (1)

kermidge (2221646) | about a year ago | (#43255425)

Thanks for having excellent memory - I'd clean forgotten this. Long time back, man. Yeah, that was a good trigger.

Re:Americans paying for big biz cheapness (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about a year ago | (#43255445)

You assume the US invented the abusive government-corporate partnership. Ever hear of the East India Company? This type of practice is as old as civilisation: Those with power need money, and those with money expect certain favours in return.

And how is this 'more' invasive than now? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254469)

The NSA has taps on the fiber backbones already - the telcos have legal immunity and so are letting them mirror all traffic going through the major peering points. I don't see how a minor adjustment in the location of said tapping changes things. All traffic is already monitored, and relationship graphs are already generated for most US residents.

Re:And how is this 'more' invasive than now? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#43254547)

It's a matter of magnitude. Think of it as the difference between being stuck in cold weather without a coat and sitting butt naked in a frozen pond. Neither is really pleasant, but the latter sure as hell kills you faster.

I can see positives, but (3, Interesting)

ALeader71 (687693) | about a year ago | (#43254479)

I still don't trust the government. If this was to track malware, botnets, or attempts to attack vital parts of our infrastructure, I'd be all for it. However I also know this will be used to clandestinely monitor everyone's communication. While I fall into the "nothing to hide" category, the definition of "nothing to hide" is flexible and ever changing. The truth is, in a way, I do hide. A lot. I don't mouth off on social media sites. I don't put my political opinions into forums. I limit confrontation to in-person or via telephone communication. We already live in an age of online surveillance. This new level of government surveillance is just the next step.

I look forward to the rise of the DarkNets!

Re:I can see positives, but (1)

Shavano (2541114) | about a year ago | (#43254507)

Yes, ALeader71. You DO mouth of on social media sites. This one, for instance.

Re:I can see positives, but (1)

Seumas (6865) | about a year ago | (#43255301)

Hm. . . This isn't a social media site any more than FIDOnet, Usenet, or any discussion forum since the beginning of the web has been a "social media site".

Re:I can see positives, but (4, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#43254529)

They're already here. They are just not globally announced and touted as the next best thing because "people who know" got wary after what happened to "their" Internet. Once the unwashed masses got in, things went downhill. For reference, see file sharing. You know, in the good ol' days, nobody gave a damn. Sure, the RIAA wasn't too excited about it, but the damage was low, so why bother? More and more people came and once it became trivially easy, the lobbying started and we have the mess we have today.

Can you imagine what an issue blueboxing would have been if it wasn't limited to a handful of phreaking enthusiasts? AT&T would have wanted their heads. And we're certainly not talking about the probation sentence Draper got, this would have reached insane heights akin to what we see today with punishments for copyright infringement. So, it was ... well, basically just a little nuisance.

Can you imagine what happens if Darknets go the way of torrents? Everyone using them, essentially rendering the whole shiny surveillance technology a matter for the recycle bin? If you think then we'd win, think again and ponder who your "enemy" is in this game. Hint: He makes the rules.

Re:I can see positives, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255159)

If you think then we'd win, think again and ponder who your "enemy" is in this game.

It's easy to win when your opponent is a submissive pussy.

Re:I can see positives, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43256367)

A true darknet is safe to its users, so having everyone on there would only be a good thing in the long run. More content, more distributed storage space, more speed.

Re:I can see positives, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255027)

The truth is, in a way, I do hide. A lot. I don't mouth off on social media sites.

The sarcasm is strong!

I limit confrontation to in-person or via telephone communication.

Really? Seriously? Even in-person is not private. Did you know that it is now possible to record *every* "private" conversation that happens at a football game with 50,000 or 100,000 people with just a few hundred microphones? You can then reconstruct what anyone is (or was) saying by reconstructing sound waves as they appear at each of the detectors. Just say where you would to localize the sound and you have sound. (the mics are omnidirectional).

I look forward to the rise of the DarkNets!

:S The solution to political problems is not technical. It is always political. Pass laws that protect you from these actions. Nothing else will protect you. Not Tor or anything (how will it protect you if you have to have spyware on your computer to connect to the network in the first place? Or ring 0 hardware sniffers?).

Employers (2)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about a year ago | (#43254499)

Employers already have the right to scan everything coming in and leaving, and AFAIK defense contractors count as employers.

I don't particularly see this as a loss of Internet privacy since I don't expect any at a place of employment.

Re:Employers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254541)

I don't trust my employer, why should I trust the government?

Re:Employers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43256459)

shhhh stop making sense. it isn't popular around here.

Re:Employers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43259543)

No, in the civilized world (that doesn't include the USA), they don't.

Privacy laws make that illegal. (Yes, privacy includes your company's e-mail address or phone calls with e.g. your loved ones.)

Re:Employers (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about a year ago | (#43260889)

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? This story is US specific.

Europe has its own civil rights problems starting with free speech, discrimination against ethnic groups (for example the Roma), no protection against age discrimination in hiring and so on.

People living in glass houses shouldn't be so quick to throw bricks.

You know what? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254503)

Fuck of USA. I'm not going to buy anything more from you.
And if I find an american I'm going to kick his ass plain and simple.

Re:You know what? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255107)

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

Re:You know what? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255629)

OMG, you're so full shit. Did you type that one handed?

Re:You know what? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255709)

I don't give a fuck who you are or where you live, you can count on me to be there to bring your fucking life to a hellish end. I'll put you in so much fucking pain that it'll make Jesus being nailed to a cross in the desert look like a fucking back massage on a tropical island. I don't give a fuck how tough you are, how well you can fight, or how many fucking guns you own to protect yourself. I'll fucking show up at your house when you aren't at home. I'll turn all the lights on in your house, leave all the water running, open your fridge door and not close it, and turn on your gas stove burners on and let them waste gas. You're going to start stressing the fuck out, your blood pressure will triple, and you'll have a fucking heart attack. You'll go to the hospital for heart operation, and the last thing you'll see when you're being put under in the operating room is me hovering above you, dressed as a doctor. When you wake up after the operation, you'll be scared for your fucking life, wondering what I did to you while you were being operated on, wondering what ticking time bomb is in your chest waiting to go off. You'll recover fully from your heart surgery. And when you walk out the front door of that hospital to go home, I'll run you over with my fucking car out of nowhere and kill you. I just want you to know how easily I could fucking destroy your pathetic excuse of a life, but how I'd rather go to a great fucking length to make sure your last remaining days are spent in a living, breathing fucking hell. It's too fucking late to save yourself, but don' bother committing suicide either... I'll fucking resuscitate you and kill you again myself you bitchfaced faggot. Welcome to hell, population: you.

Re:You know what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43256699)

HAHA, It's funny because we all know you had to grab your inhaler by the end. Go back to your Twinkies and Mountain Dew, tubby.

Re:You know what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43260293)

apk, take your meds and go to bed for a good sleep.

How naive do you have to be? (4, Insightful)

russotto (537200) | about a year ago | (#43254521)

After the AT&T revelation, why would you believe they aren't ALREADY scanning pretty much everything they can?

Freedom, once lost, is never returned (0)

dontfearthereaper (2657807) | about a year ago | (#43254539)

This is your privacy being slowly but surely encroached on..... once everyone is used to this... next it'll be just a bit closer to your home.... and a bit more.... eventually everyone's home is bugged...

Next thing you know, you're being black bagged by some government goon and being hauled off as a usurper or something.

Don't believe this shit is coming? Take a good read of Orwell's 1984, the movie Demolition Man or V for Vendetta and then compare the similarities to the likes of Europe or China, or the "Smart City" in South Korea where everyone is chipped and every. single. action. is tracked.

Does not make it any better (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254579)

Dear Mr.Obama,

Just because you move the shady / possibly-abuse-filled surveillance project to another department does not make us "like" the program anymore.

Also if you think the whole issue was the department handling the program, you have no clue why people are upset and outraged. That or you are intenionally ignoring the real reason.

Please take the critical systems off the public internet if you are that worried about a "cyber" attack against public infastructure.

Signed,
- The People of the USA

Signature based scanning? (0)

schwit1 (797399) | about a year ago | (#43254593)

Hasn't signature based scanning been debunked as a successful method for detecting modern malware?

Re: Signature based scanning? (1)

Aryeh Goretsky (129230) | about a year ago | (#43254753)

Hello, Actually, it's one of the few technologies which was adapted and worked quite well over the past couple of decades. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky

Re:Signature based scanning? (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about a year ago | (#43255457)

Only against the very best, the APT-class attackers, who have the skill and the time to write and test their own tools. Against your common script kiddie or for-profit botnet operator, it'll still work fine.

This is not their job... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254597)

This is not their job, please get busy and get a balanced budget out! Then maybe think about things you shouldn't be doing.

Encrypt everything and hide intent (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254629)

Not only do we need to encrypt everything going over the network we need to develop systems which defeat infererence of useful envelope information by adding noise in space and time and via the use of indirect reflections.

Aggregation of power into the hands of the government regardless of the justification will only incite internal corruption and bring out the same human failings that lead to oppression. Technology will corrupt our society if we don't take steps to prevent it.

Cyber attack against utilities? (4, Insightful)

PPH (736903) | about a year ago | (#43254631)

My power company won't even trim the stinkin' trees. When the lights go out, how will we differentiate between an attack and normal operations?

Re:Cyber attack against utilities? (1)

jameshofo (1454841) | about a year ago | (#43254885)

Maybe if you put a wifi antenna on those branches they'ed be more willing to get out and tend to them!

Re:Cyber attack against utilities? (1)

PPH (736903) | about a year ago | (#43256745)

More likely if the tree was a nesting site for an endangered species.

Re:Cyber attack against utilities? (1)

ArsonSmith (13997) | about a year ago | (#43255031)

You are lucky, the power company butchered my pecan trees which were not even close to causing issues due to some "possible interference any time in the next 10 years" rule they have.

Re:Cyber attack against utilities? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255307)

LOL. In a first-World country your trees would be fine - power lines are underground.

Re:Cyber attack against utilities? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#43255963)

LOL. In a first-World country your trees would be fine - power lines are underground.

How cute, someone from a small country thinks that they know what's good for a large developed nation with the least population density.

Re:Cyber attack against utilities? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43257297)

ArsonSmith is from the US. Pecan trees? Surely not the nation with the least population density.

Re:Cyber attack against utilities? (1)

Bacon Bits (926911) | about a year ago | (#43257201)

If you call them and actually get to speak with a human being, it was probably an attack.

Re:Cyber attack against utilities? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43259563)

The fact that your power lines still run above the ground, is ludicrous in itself.

This is 2013! Get your shit together, USA. You're not some underdeveloped backwards... oh, wait!

Don't you feel safer? (2)

HangingChad (677530) | about a year ago | (#43254711)

Finally something progressives and conservatives can team up to fight.

The last briefing I heard there were something like 200 Chinese front companies operating in the U.S. gathering data on Americans, particularly those with security clearances.

Maybe we stop the obvious stuff and the cloud databases being stored all over the world before we go all 1984 on our own citizens.

In the same briefing I found out the French are also spying on our defense related industries. And the Israelis. Some allies we have. The ones not spying on us think we're idiots.

Re:Don't you feel safer? (2)

TheSeatOfMyPants (2645007) | about a year ago | (#43255109)

Finally something progressives and conservatives can team up to fight.

I wish... Based on recent years, the political reaction will be more like:
-- Most of the party that's clearly not in charge will condemn the latest overreach, declare that this sort of thing wouldn't happen on their watch, and that if given power again they'll be certain to reverse it.
-- Most of the party in power will either remain silent or make vague supportive comments about doing what we must for security. The rare over-enthusiastic sort will say it's a great step forward blah blah blah.
-- A few from both sides will "reluctantly" support it, saying that they're outnumbered by the majority but that if enough people like *them* are given power, things will change.
-- Once an election takes place, some or most of the individuals involved will swap places.

Re:Don't you feel safer? (1)

Redmancometh (2676319) | about a year ago | (#43255259)

Strong start weak finish. ... still funny

Re:Don't you feel safer? (1)

RougeFemme (2871421) | about a year ago | (#43260467)

Allies have always spied on each other - we do it, too.

Translation... (2)

Macdude (23507) | about a year ago | (#43254757)

"By using DHS as the middleman, the Obama administration hopes to bring the formidable overseas intelligence-gathering of the NSA closer to ordinary U.S. residents without triggering an outcry from privacy advocates who have long been leery of the spy agency's eavesdropping."

Translation: People don't fear the DHS as much as they fear the NSA, this should fix that.

Re:Translation... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255075)

Translation: People don't fear the DHS as much as they fear the NSA, this should fix that.

I disagree. You presume to compare two things.
One of which logically has to be a winner as they both can't be in charge. You lied about people fearing the DHS. Even the fucking senate is starting to ask questions about those fucking rounds now. They ought to ask about the nsa fios splitters too!

There's no oversight when you can't even tell me what the fucking LAW is anymore.

That's what letting oath breakers hold office does. Better fucking pray we aren't nazi germany v 2.0

Re:Translation... (1)

Cosgrach (1737088) | about a year ago | (#43255191)

Better fucking pray we aren't Nazi Germany v 2.0

Sadly, we are already on the way to that.

Re:Translation... (1)

Redmancometh (2676319) | about a year ago | (#43255271)

I see us in more of a "brave new world." The ultimate nanny state predicated on false contentedness.

entropy (2)

wbr1 (2538558) | about a year ago | (#43254849)

Erode away rights, waste away privacy. You will succumb to the second law of thermodynamics like everything else.

Naturally (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43254947)

Obama's most hated of enemies are the citizens of the United States of America.

And Obama vows to kill them all.

You know it occurs to me... (1)

tlambert (566799) | about a year ago | (#43255055)

You know it occurs to me...

All the major telecommunications carriers are defense contractors, as are the people running MAE East and MAE West.

So what exactly isn't going to be scanned under this proposal?

Re:You know it occurs to me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43256025)

You're a decade or two behind. MAE East and West haven't been important for a while. Providers have needed to interconnect in many more, closer places. But don't worry, I'm sure they'll all be monitored.

Umm yeah.. they are listening to everybody... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255281)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq3fgwV7doY

William Binney, served in the NSA for over 30 years, including a time as director of the NSA's World Geopolitical and Military Analysis Reporting Group. Since retiring from the NSA in 2001, he has warned that the NSA's data-mining program has become so vast that it could "create an Orwellian state."

In his first television interview since he resigned from the National Security Agency over its domestic surveillance program, William Binney discusses the NSA's massive power to spy on Americans and why the FBI raided his home after he became a whistleblower. Binney was a key source for investigative journalist James Bamford's recent exposé in Wired Magazine about how the NSA is quietly building the largest spy center in the country in Bluffdale, Utah. The Utah spy center will contain near-bottomless databases to store all forms of communication collected by the agency, including private emails, cell phone calls, Google searches and other personal data.

Binney served in the NSA for over 30 years, including a time as technical director of the NSA's World Geopolitical and Military Analysis Reporting Group. Since retiring from the NSA in 2001, he has warned that the NSA's data-mining program has become so vast that it could "create an Orwellian state." Today marks the first time Binney has spoken on national television about NSA surveillance. This interview is part of a 4-part special.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20...

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012...

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20...

The original content of this program is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License. Please attribute legal copies of this work to democracynow.org.

- - -

FAIR USE: The provision in the copyright law that YouTube pays no attention to...

Creative Commons license: Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 (CC BY-NC-ND 3.0)

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/b...

You are free: to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work
Under the following conditions: Attribution — You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).
Noncommercial — You may not use this work for commercial purposes.
No Derivative Works — You may not alter, transform, or build upon this work.

"Jill Scott-Watching Me", sound recording administered by:
AbsoluteAMD
IODA

        Buy "Watching Me" on

Fix it. (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about a year ago | (#43255479)

This is Slashdot. We're a bunch of nerds. So let us do what it is that nerds do: Find a technological solution. Let us get every website using HTTPS, every email and IM conversation encrypted. It doesn't have to be perfectly secure against an attacker who can plant their own certificates on client devices, it just has to make interception difficult enough to prevent governmental fishing expeditions.

Re:Fix it. (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | about a year ago | (#43256189)

Let us get every website using HTTPS, every email and IM conversation encrypted.

What makes you so certain the NSA hasn't cracked SSL? Because I'm reasonably certain that if they had broken SSL, they wouldn't tell anyone about that capability.

And the reason why? (2)

XB-70 (812342) | about a year ago | (#43255789)

The DHS deserves to ... because they've done such a fine job scanning us at airports.

DHS middleman cuddlities (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43255957)

By using DHS as the middleman, the Obama administration hopes to bring the formidable overseas intelligence-gathering of the NSA closer to ordinary U.S. residents without triggering an outcry from privacy advocates who have long been leery of the spy agency's eavesdropping."

So DHS who is already in charge makes one of it's agencies more cute and cuddly for the public, enabling the agency doing what it has already been doing since the Patriot Act. Apparently now NSA can send their recruiting people to the local middle schools to improve those community ties and factorize some more closeness.

I trust NSA more than I do DHS. (1)

John Hasler (414242) | about a year ago | (#43256145)

NSA doesn't have any cops.

Re:I trust NSA more than I do DHS. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43257215)

They most certainly do...

into and out of *defense contractors* (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43256347)

I don't see a problem with it. Its not like we are talking traffic between 2 private citizens. Being a defense contractor, you voluntarily lose your right to privacy.

JEWS to scan more civilian traffic (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43256349)

There, fixed that for ya.

Or are you cretins still worshipping at the altar of the 'Holocaust'? How bad do things have to get in your country before you NAME THE JEW?

What could possibly go wrong? (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year ago | (#43256961)

If the banks request it, good.

If they don't, bad. As in Hitler bad.

Load More Comments
Slashdot Login

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?
or Connect with...

Don't worry, we never post anything without your permission.

Submission Text Formatting Tips

We support a small subset of HTML, namely these tags:

  • b
  • i
  • p
  • br
  • a
  • ol
  • ul
  • li
  • dl
  • dt
  • dd
  • em
  • strong
  • tt
  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>