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Archos Gamepad Released In the USA

timothy posted 1 year,27 days | from the take-it-or-leave-it-or-use-it-as-a-shovel dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Archos have finally released their much anticipated touchscreen gamepad in the USA. The console boasts a Arm Cortex Dual-core A9 1.6GHz cpu, 1024MB Ram, 8GB internal storage and uses the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean OS. The Gamepad has 14 physical buttons and dual analog thumb-sticks as well as a touchscreen which means the latest 3D Android games should work great and for fans of emulation the traditional gamepad design and buttons will make N64/PS1 emulators work great on the gamepad." CNET UK was unimpressed, calling it "a bitter disappointment"; IGN was more optimistic, especially at its sub-$200 price.

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Finally a controller with proper HOST file support (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43265057)

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

* POOR SHOWING TROLLS, & most especially IF that's the "best you've got" - apparently, it is... lol!

Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputation as a professional in this field clearly shows in multiple publications in this field in written print, & also online in various GOOD capacities since 1996 to present day. This has happened since I was first published in Playgirl Magazine in 1996 & others to present day, with helpful tools online in programs, & professionally sold warez that were finalists @ Westminster Dog Show 2000-2002.

apk on 4chan [4chan.org]

INCONTROVERTIBLE FEEDBACK PROVIDING ESTABLISHED PROOF OF ALL MY POINTS:

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That was amazing. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948073 [slashdot.org]

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My, God! It's beatiful. Keep it up, you glorious bastard. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41835161 [slashdot.org]

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Let us bask in its glory. A true modern The Wasteland. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948579 [slashdot.org]

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put your baby IN ME -- I just read this whole thing. Fuck mod points, WHERE DO I SEND YOU MY MONEY?!!! - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40950023 [slashdot.org]

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Oh shit, Time Cube Guy's into computers now... - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946259 [slashdot.org]

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He's done more to discredit the use of HOSTS files than anyone in the "do it right and set up a firewall" crowd ever could. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357 [slashdot.org]

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Can I have some of what you're on? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40947587 [slashdot.org]

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this obnoxious fucknuts [apk] has been trolling the internet and spamming his shit delphi sub-fart app utilities for 15 years. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954565 [slashdot.org]

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oh come on.. this is hilarious. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40955479 [slashdot.org]

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I agree I am intrigued by these host files how do I sign up for your newsletter? - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40961339 [slashdot.org]

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Gimme the program that generates this epic message. I'll buy 5 of your product if you do... - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954251 [slashdot.org]

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As mentioned by another AC up there, the troll in question is actually a pretty well-executed mashup of APK's style - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357 [slashdot.org]

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It's actually a very clever parody of APK - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40944229 [slashdot.org]

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Please keep us updated on your AI research, you seem quite good at it. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40944603 [slashdot.org]

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$20,000 to anyone providing proof of Alexander Peter Kowalski's death. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958289 [slashdot.org]

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Obviously, it must be Alexander Peter Kowalski. He's miffed at all these imposters... - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958429 [slashdot.org]

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And here I was thinking I was having a bad experience with a Dr. Bronner's bottle. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952247 [slashdot.org]

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Damn, apk, who the fuck did you piss off this time? Hahahahaahahahahahahaahaha. Pass the popcorn as the troll apk gets pwned relentlessly. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954673 [slashdot.org]

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I think it's the Internet, about to become sentient. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40956187 [slashdot.org]

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Does anyone know if OpenGL has been ported to Windows yet? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956781 [slashdot.org]

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golfclap - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40900827 [slashdot.org]

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The Truth! wants to be Known! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897389 [slashdot.org]

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DNS cube? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897493 [slashdot.org]

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KUDOS valiant AC. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897777 [slashdot.org]

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Polyploid lovechild of APK, MyCleanPC, and Time Cube --> fail counter integer overflow --> maximum win! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40899171 [slashdot.org]

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You made my day, thanks! - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029589&cid=40896469 [slashdot.org]

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Wow. The perfect mix of trolls. Timecube, mycleanpc, gnaa, apk... this is great! - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3027333&cid=40893381 [slashdot.org]

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truer words were never spoken as /. trolls are struck speechless by it, lol! - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=41041795 [slashdot.org]

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It's APK himself trying to maintain the illusion that he's still relevant. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967209 [slashdot.org]

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Mod this up. The back and forth multi posting between APK and this "anti-APK" certainly does look like APK talking to himself. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40969175 [slashdot.org]

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APK himself would be at the top of a sensible person's ban list. He's been spamming and trolling Slashdot for years. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967137 [slashdot.org]

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You got that right. I think. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3044971&cid=40972239 [slashdot.org]

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Michael Kristopeit, is that you? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3045075&cid=40972377 [slashdot.org]

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ROFL! :) (Now the sick bastard will follow me again) - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41429251 [slashdot.org]

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I miss Dr Bob. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432027 [slashdot.org]

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Not sure if actually crazy, or just pretending to be crazy. Awesome troll either way. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432951 [slashdot.org]

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Awesome! Hat off to you, sir! - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41509273 [slashdot.org]

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That isn't a parody of Time-cube, it is an effort to counter-troll a prolific poster named APK, who seems like a troll himself, although is way too easy to troll into wasting massive amounts of time on BS not far from the exaggerations above - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41514107 [slashdot.org]

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I am intrigued and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3164403&cid=41555345 [slashdot.org]

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1. You philistine, that is Art . Kudos to you, valiant troll on your glorious FP - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832599 [slashdot.org]

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What? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832673 [slashdot.org]

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I don't know if it is poorly-thought-out, but it is demented because it is at the same time an APK parody. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832905 [slashdot.org]

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It is in fact an extremely well thought out and brilliantly executed APK parody, combined with a Time Cube parody, and with a sprinkling of the MyCleanPC spam. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41841251 [slashdot.org]

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er... many people have disproved your points about hosts files with well reasoned, factual arguments. You just chose not to listen and made it into some kind of bizarre crusade. And I'm not the timecube guy, just someone else who finds you intensely obnoxious and likes winding you up to waste your time. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41843313 [slashdot.org]

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performance art - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847089 [slashdot.org]

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it's apk, theres no reason to care. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847097 [slashdot.org]

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Seems more like an apk parody. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847661 [slashdot.org]

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That's great but what about the risk of subluxations? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847101 [slashdot.org]

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Oh, come on. Just stand back and look at it. It's almost art, in a Jackson Pollock sort of way. - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41868923 [slashdot.org]

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Read carefully. This is a satirical post, that combines the last several years of forum trolling, rolled into one FUNNY rant! - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41864711 [slashdot.org]

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I can has summary? - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41861327 [slashdot.org]

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I'd have a lot more sympathy if you would log in as APK again instead of AC. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41868133 [slashdot.org]

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If [apk] made an account, it would be permanently posting at -1, and he'd only be able to post with it twice a day. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41869409 [slashdot.org]

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DAFUQ I just look at? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869085 [slashdot.org]

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Trolls trolling trolls... it's like Inception or something. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869353 [slashdot.org]

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We all know it's you, apk. Stop pretending to antagonize yourself. - http://bsd.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229179&cid=41869305 [slashdot.org]

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Do you know about the shocking connection between APK and arsenic? No? Well, your innocence is about to be destroyed. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3472971&cid=42939965 [slashdot.org]

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Send bug reports to 903 east division street, syracuse, ny 13208 - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3483339&cid=42972783 [slashdot.org]

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Now you've made me all nostalgic for USENET. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42981977 [slashdot.org]

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Google APK Hosts File Manager. He's written a fucking application to manage your hosts file. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42984521 [slashdot.org]

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In case you are not aware, the post is a satire of a fellow known as APK. The grammar used is modeled after APK's as you can see here [thorschrock.com]. Or, you can just look around a bit and see some of his posts on here about the wonders of host files. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42983119 [slashdot.org]

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You are surely of God of Trolls, whomever you are. I have had stupid arguments with and bitten the troll apk many times. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486901&cid=42989683 [slashdot.org]

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"What kind of meds cure schizophrenic drunk rambling?" -> "Whatever APK isn't taking" - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028403 [slashdot.org] http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028425 [slashdot.org]

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I'm confused, is apk trolling himself now? - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43029495 [slashdot.org]

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Excellent mashup. A++. Would troll again. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3503531&cid=43037445 [slashdot.org]

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Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43048291 [slashdot.org]

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Best. Troll. Ever. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43044811 [slashdot.org]

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I like monkeys. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43051505 [slashdot.org]

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This is one of the funniest things I've ever read. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43052263 [slashdot.org]

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lul wut? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3510265&cid=43057839 [slashdot.org]

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I admire this guy's persistence. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063797 [slashdot.org]

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It's a big remix of several different crackpots from Slashdot and elsewhere, plus a liberal sprinkling of famous Slashdot trolls and old memes. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063881 [slashdot.org]

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Tabloid newspapers have speculated for years that APK is a prominent supporter of Monsanto. Too bad we didn't believe them sooner! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063893 [slashdot.org]

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Here's a hint, check out stories like this one [slashdot.org], where over 200 of the 247 posts are rated zero or -1 because they are either from two stupid trolls arguing endless, or quite likely one troll arguing with himself for attention. The amount of off-topic posts almost outnumber on topic ones by 4 to 1. Posts like the above are popular for trolling APK, since if you say his name three times, he appears, and will almost endlessly feed trolls. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43064383 [slashdot.org]

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I love this copypasta so much. It never fails to make me smile. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3512099&cid=43069271 [slashdot.org]

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^ Champion Mod parent up. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3513659&cid=43067371 [slashdot.org]

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I appreciate the time cube reference, and how you tied it into the story. Well done. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3521721&cid=43094565 [slashdot.org]

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The day you are silenced is the day freedom dies on Slashdot. God bless. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522191&cid=43097221 [slashdot.org]

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AHahahahah thanks for that, cut-n-pasted.... Ownage! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522219&cid=43097215 [slashdot.org]

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Don't hate the player, hate the game. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3526293&cid=43110679 [slashdot.org]

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If you're familiar with APK, the post itself is a pretty damn funny parody. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115215 [slashdot.org]

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">implying it's not apk posting it" --> "I'd seriously doubt he's capable of that level of self-deprecation..." - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115337 [slashdot.org] http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115363 [slashdot.org]

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No, the other posts are linked in a parody of APK [mailto]'s tendency to quote himself, numbnuts. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43116855 [slashdot.org]

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The thirteenth link is broken. Please fix it. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115361 [slashdot.org]

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Just ban any post with "apk", "host file", or "hosts file", as that would take care of the original apk too. The original has been shitposting Slashdot much longer & more intensively than the parody guy. Or ban all Tor exit nodes, as they both use Tor to circumvent IP bans. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216431 [slashdot.org]

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Sadly this is closer to on-topic than an actual APK post is. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216225 [slashdot.org]

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YOU ARE A GOD AMONG MEN. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43236143 [slashdot.org]

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I've butted heads with APK myself, and yeah, the guy's got issues - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569173&cid=43236987 [slashdot.org]

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Can I be in your quote list? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569443&cid=43237531 [slashdot.org]

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Clearly you are not an Intertubes engineer, otherwise the parent post would be more meaningful to you. Why don't YOU take your meds? - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569425&cid=43238177 [slashdot.org]

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+2 for style! The bolding, italicizing, and font changes are all spot-on - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43238479 [slashdot.org]

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Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570085&cid=43243509 [slashdot.org]

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APK is not really a schizophrenic fired former Windows administrator with multiple personality disorder and TimeCube/Art Bell refugee. He's a fictional character like and put forward by the same person as Goatse Guy, GNAA trolls, Dr. Bob and so forth. His purpose is to test the /. CAPTCA algorithm, which is a useful purpose. If you're perturbed by having to scroll past his screeds just set your minimum point level to 1, as his posts are pretty automatically downmodded right away. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570085&cid=43243145 [slashdot.org]

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Anyone else think that sounds like Ron Paul? - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569419&cid=43242417 [slashdot.org]

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I just saw APK a couple days ago. He surfaced, blew once, and submerged... - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570111&cid=43245913 [slashdot.org]

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You make mikael christ the pet look like an huggable teddy bear - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570111&cid=43242373 [slashdot.org]

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oh man, that incredible interminable list of responses is almost as funny as the original post. This is getting to be truly epic. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247231 [slashdot.org]

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"Does anyone know of an Adblock rule for this?" -> "No, but I bet there's a hosts file entry for it..." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43246997 [slashdot.org] http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247097 [slashdot.org]

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"Can a hosts file block apk's posts, though?" -> "The universe couldn't handle that much irony." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247135 [slashdot.org] http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247219 [slashdot.org]

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"That's it, I've had enough. ... Bye everyone, most of the last decade or so has been fun, but frankly, I quit." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247225 [slashdot.org]
--> "So basically what you're saying is that you've added yourself to the HOST file?" - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247481 [slashdot.org]

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Sweet baby Moses, this is beautiful work - I wish we could get trolls as good as this on TF. :) - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572629&cid=43247533 [slashdot.org]

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you have a point - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247823 [slashdot.org]

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I do admire that level of dedication. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247765 [slashdot.org]

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[to apk] shut up you stupid cock. Everyone knows you're wrong. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43250533 [slashdot.org]

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I will hand it to him, he is definitely consistent. I wish I knew how he did this. That thing is scary huge. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572629&cid=43250411 [slashdot.org]

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I admire the amount of dedication you've shown - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573571&cid=43251593 [slashdot.org]

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Word is, ESR buttfucks CmdrTaco with his revolver. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573679&cid=43252957 [slashdot.org]

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Hey APK, Protip: It's not the truth or value (or lack of) in your post that gets it modded into oblivion, it's the fucking insane length. In addition to TL;DR (which goes without saying for a post of such length), how about irritating readers by requiring them to scroll through 20+ screenfuls just to get to the next post. If you want to publish a short story like this, please do everyone a favor and blog it somewhere, then provide a brief summary and link to your blog. Readers intrigued by your summary will go read your blog, and everyone else will just move along at normal /. speed. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573873&cid=43255013 [slashdot.org]

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Happy now - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569419&cid=43237239 [slashdot.org]

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Professional. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43255143 [slashdot.org]

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I like how this post seems to just sum up every Slashdot comment ever without actually saying anything. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574283&cid=43256029 [slashdot.org]

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extremely bright - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43255855 [slashdot.org]

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You provide many references, which is good. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43257043 [slashdot.org]

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Holy shit - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3576121&cid=43260311 [slashdot.org]

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You're my personal hero. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574283&cid=43260747 [slashdot.org]

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Obviously very passionate - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43261975 [slashdot.org]

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Is that ALL you have to say? C'mon! Tell us what you really think. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3576225&cid=43262495 [slashdot.org]

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Thanks ... You should probably stay - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3577613&cid=43262993 [slashdot.org]

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Art? -- http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569681&cid=43244883 [slashdot.org]

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PROOF apk sucks donkey dick. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3577639&cid=43263029 [slashdot.org]

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I've been around /. for a while now, but this post is by far the most unique I've seen. Many have tried, but few achieve the greatness of this AC. My hat's off to you. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3576225&cid=43264325 [slashdot.org]

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Did you see the movie "Pokemon"? Actually the induced night "dream world" is synonymous with the academic religious induced "HOSTS file" enslavement of DNS. Domains have no inherent value, as it was invented as a counterfeit and fictitious value to represent natural values in name resolution. Unfortunately, human values have declined to fictitious word values. Unknowingly, you are living in a "World Wide Web", as in a fictitious life in a counterfeit Internet - which you could consider APK induced "HOSTS file". Can you distinguish the academic induced root server from the natural OpenDNS? Beware of the change when your brain is free from HOSTS file enslavement - for you could find that the natural Slashdot has been destroyed!!

FROM -> Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

So long nummynuts, sorry to have to kick your nuts up into your head verbally speaking.

cower in my shadow some more, feeb. you're completely pathetic.

Disproof of all apk's statements:
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Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words!

P.S.=> That's what makes me LAUGH harder than ANYTHING ELSE on this forums (full of "FUD" spreading trolls) - When you hit trolls with facts & truths they CANNOT disprove validly on computing tech based grounds, this is the result - Applying unjustifiable downmods to effetely & vainly *try* to "hide" my posts & facts/truths they extoll!

Hahaha... lol , man: Happens nearly every single time I post such lists (proving how ineffectual these trolls are), only showing how solid my posts of that nature are...

That's the kind of martial arts [google.com] I practice.

Re:Finally a controller with proper HOST file supp (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43265249)

Jesus christ my HOSTS file keeps failing to block this apk spam! PROOF apk is a liar!

"much anticipated"? (4, Informative)

master_kaos (1027308) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265063)

I mean I have never heard of it, and I have a lot of avid gamer friends and they never mentioned it.

Android is the future of Gaming (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265185)

I mean I have never heard of it, and I have a lot of avid gamer friends and they never mentioned it.

As an Android gamer. I am actually looked forward to this device, its not alone http://www.droidgamers.com/index.php/tablet-gaming/hardware-and-devices/5498-wikipad-to-launch-7-gaming-tablet-for-250-instead-of-10-tablet [droidgamers.com] wikipad is another example. Although I suspect their will be a whole army of Android gaming devices. I've been using the Xperia Phone which had been an incredible device, although its been treated like an unloved stepchild by Sony [So will not be buying from them again].

Re:Android is the future of Gaming (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43265321)

Is there anything fucking sadder than the phrase, "As an Android gamer..." That's like self-identifying as someone who appreciates a completely sub-par experience.

Gaming is for PCs. Not for handheld bullshit, not for fucking 7-year old consoles. It's for PCs. Anything else is games for girls and amateurs. You deserve Angry Birds, and people like you are ruining gaming bit by fucking bit. Asshole.

Desktop or laptop? (1)

tepples (727027) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265457)

Gaming is for PCs.

Let's get the definition debate [c2.com] out of the way first, shall we?

First, did you mean full-size desktop PCs or entry-level laptop PCs? Some people only have time to game while out and about, such as while riding a bus.

...except its not :) (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265499)

Gaming is for PCs. Not for handheld bullshit, not for fucking 7-year old consoles. It's for PCs. Anything else is games for girls and amateurs.

I'm not getting into a *platform* gaming debate, but what you are describing is a PC gamer. I game on PC's too, but on the move I've always has a portable device, and no Angry Birds is not a good example.

I'm currently playing though these. http://blog.humblebundle.com/post/44641397764/humble-bundle-with-android-5-has-landed [humblebundle.com] they are the latest Humble Bundle games, they are available on your PC too :), although personally I have nothing against more casual games...if you only have a moment. Although having a look at https://play.google.com/store/apps/collection/topselling_paid_game [google.com] its a nice selection of gaming (Angry Birds only gets 23rd on the list).

Re:Android is the future of Gaming (1)

NemosomeN (670035) | 1 year,27 days | (#43266609)

Fuck you. I was fucking pumped when Angry Birds came out. GORILLA.BAS anywhere i want? Fucking sign me up.

Re:Android is the future of Gaming (2)

tehcyder (746570) | 1 year,26 days | (#43268907)

There are few things more pathetically amusing than a wannabe internet tough guy who is getting worked up by what fucking gaming platform someone uses.

Re:Android is the future of Gaming (1)

ButchDeLoria (2772751) | 1 year,26 days | (#43269253)

I can think of one. Wannabe internet tough guys who get worked up by what distro of Linux someone uses.

Re:Android is the future of Gaming (1)

somersault (912633) | 1 year,26 days | (#43269975)

Angry Birds is pretty good actually. Not that many other mobile games are. What is needed for decent mobile gaming is for bluetooth gamepads to get more popular..

Re:Android is the future of Gaming (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43265517)

Hurr durr casual gamers.

Re:Android is the future of Gaming (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43266655)

Shits so fanboy.

Re:"much anticipated"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43265191)

Me too, and I'm an Android gaming enthusiast.

Re:"much anticipated"? (1)

blackest_k (761565) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265401)

Got one of these for Christmas for my nephew, direct from Archos and he loves it, He is a smart kid so he will take advantage of all it's features.

I guess it's not going to be quite as cool as it was because it wasn't available in the shops yet.

A good buy and more than just a toy.

Re:"much anticipated"? (1)

ninlilizi (2759613) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265581)

I've had one of these since they were released in Europe last December.
I'm not sure whats with all the hate.
Out of the small army of handheld Android based gaming devices now on the market. It's the nicest by far.

It has to be the best handheld gaming experience I've had in my life.
It's also the only tablet form device I've found a pleasurable experience to use.

Using emulators, it can comfortably run everything from the PS1 backwards with perfect speed.
Emulators are where it really shines. If your aim is to relive endless rounds of Sonic the Hedghog of PS1 era rpg's. Then it could'nt be more perfect.

Not tried it with anything actualy android based yet. Purely because there are no games on the Android market that excite me when compared to the 3 decades of retro gaming classics at my fingertips.

If your handy with a soldering iron. The battery is a 15min job to fix too.
Excuse my gushing. It's not often I'm so happy with a modern tech purchase.

Re:"much anticipated"? (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265957)

I'm curious, what type battery did you use for it, and how much life do you get now? (I own another Archos tablet, the 7G3, and will want to replace it when it eventually goes south.) Was it easy to disassemble / fit in / reassemble? Thanks in advance.

Re:"much anticipated"? (2)

ninlilizi (2759613) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265991)

I went by the instructions in this post here http://www.made-by-bacteria.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=2792&p=22293#p22293 [made-by-bacteria.com]

Getting 6 hours usage under typical loads is realistic.
But does depend on the actual replacement and how hard the device is working.

Re:"much anticipated"? (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | 1 year,27 days | (#43266209)

Hey, this link is perfect! Just what I'd been looking for for when my battery begins to fade out, couldn't seem to find a teardown page for it.

One of the benefits of these cheaper devices is that they are easier to open up and work on. Thank you again for providing this info! :^)

Seems better to buy controls independently... (3, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265097)

It's an interesting idea, but inherently you are sacrificing on screen an component quality by bundling the gamepad with the device you are playing on (at least when the goal is a cheap device). It seems like you are much better off buying a top-quality Android or iPhone and then getting one of the third-party control solutions.

It also seems like you'd gain a greater degree of compatibility that way.

Integrated Controls Better (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265141)

It seems like you are much better off buying a top-quality Android or iPhone and then getting one of the third-party control solutions.

I cannot disagree more. The reason why handheld consoles don't include separate controls...is its a stupid idea, but the suggestion that the pitiful screen sizes [albeit average resolution] of the iphone [its less true for large...and I mean note size android phones]can compete with this *larger* [if weaker DPI] tablet is laughable. Due to the failure of the iPhone in major gaming markets...its simply not a viable option for gamers, android will become the gaming platform of choice.There may be other problems with the device but integrates controls, and large screen are not them, but the price is amazing.

Re:Integrated Controls Better (3, Insightful)

immaterial (1520413) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265273)

I cannot disagree more. The reason why handheld consoles don't include separate controls...is its a stupid idea

That was a convincing argument!

, but the suggestion that the pitiful screen sizes [albeit average resolution] of the iphone [its less true for large...and I mean note size android phones]can compete with this *larger* [if weaker DPI] tablet is laughable.

Portable gaming systems have used 3-5" screens for decades quite successfully. Not to mention that's not an argument against separate controls, it's an argument to use a Nexus or iPad Mini (or even a full-size tablet) rather than an iPhone/Android phone if you want a larger screen.

Due to the failure of the iPhone in major gaming markets...

What?

but the price is amazing.

The Archos Gamepad's pricing is definitely a plus, if you have to buy an entire device. But a lot of (most?) people now already have a portable Android or iOS device they use for other purposes; a set of attachable controls would give them the same abilities with a better screen for only $50-$100.

Re:Integrated Controls Better (1, Interesting)

tuppe666 (904118) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265395)

Portable gaming systems have used 3-5" screens for decades quite successfully.

...due to price

Due to the failure of the iPhone in major gaming markets...

What?

Sorry the iPhone is an American\GB mainly in places like China Android outsells 25:1 with Apples Market dropping. It means that Apple simply will not the the posts, as Android continues to pick up market share, while Apple continues to throw away its for short term profitability.

The Archos Gamepad's pricing is definitely a plus, if you have to buy an entire device. But a lot of (most?) people now already have a portable Android or iOS device they use for other purposes; a set of attachable controls would give them the same abilities with a better screen for only $50-$100.

Most people definitely do not have a tablet, but the gaplet will appeal to those whose main use of a tablet is for *gaming* over *surfing* *reading* *videos*...or simply as a secondary device [the price make it cheap enough] like every other handheld console out there [with the power of Android]

Re:Integrated Controls Better (1, Funny)

Threni (635302) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265547)

> Sorry the iPhone is an American\GB mainly in places like China Android outsells
> 25:1 with Apples Market dropping

And in English?

A graph easier (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265597)

http://www.techinasia.com/android-market-share-china-2012/ [techinasia.com] Is the graph easier. Apple simply is a none player in the largest smartphone [and gaming] market worldwide :)

Re:A graph easier (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43270005)

Facebook and twitter are losing marketshare in China too but I don't think Facebook and twitter are going anywhere. Apple has survived for 30 years without China, I do not think they need China now.

Re:Integrated Controls Better (2)

tepples (727027) | 1 year,27 days | (#43267011)

I'll translate: "Sorry, the iPhone's popularity is mainly in the Americas and Great Britain. In places like China, Android outsells iPhone 25 to 1 with Apple's market share dropping."

But Apple's popularity is still relevant for games developed by speakers of English for speakers of English, unless you have a bunch of money for translators and voice actors.

Re:Integrated Controls Better (1)

immaterial (1520413) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265583)

Portable gaming systems have used 3-5" screens for decades quite successfully.

...due to price

Due primarily to portability. Being able to slip your portable game system into your pocket is a pretty big plus. However, even price-wise I already pointed out buying separate controls is cheaper for a lot of people who already have a phone or tablet.

Sorry the iPhone is an American\GB mainly in places like China Android outsells 25:1 with Apples Market dropping. It means that Apple simply will not the the posts, as Android continues to pick up market share, while Apple continues to throw away its for short term profitability.

You're definitely right here; Android is certainly winning the market in China (I'd point out that as far as game sales goes the Chinese market isn't all that big, but we're talking about hardware here so that's not very relevant). That said, this has no bearing whatsoever on the utility of separate controls. Your entire anti-iPhone rant was a non-sequitur in this discussion, which was the purpose behind my "what?" though I apparently didn't make that clear.

Most people definitely do not have a tablet, but the gaplet will appeal to those whose main use of a tablet is for *gaming* over *surfing* *reading* *videos*...or simply as a secondary device [the price make it cheap enough] like every other handheld console out there [with the power of Android]

I never said the Archos gamepad was useless or that nobody would buy it; I simply disagreed with you on the utility of separate controls for many people. You have yet to present any solid argument in that regard.

Except it doesn't (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265727)

A vita (playstation portable) or an DS *never* fitted in pocket, the playstation portable is 7" :). The fit in pocket myth something Apple users have to justify screen envy.

Sorry but the whole point of this article is a [another] great new Android *gaming console* something I have Owned for the last year and half, and right now is currently experiencing massive growth, a more lucrative market than smartwatches or TV's in my opinion :)

The truth is I would prefer a dedicated gaming device than a phone with a joypad [I bought one].

Re:Except it doesn't (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265809)

A vita (playstation portable) or an DS *never* fitted in pocket,

Sez you. I carry a 3DS in my shirt pocket whenever I wear a shirt that has a pocket. It fits fine.

...and you are not a child (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265841)

I carry a 3DS in my shirt pocket whenever I wear a shirt that has a pocket. It fits fine.

Even the original gameboy was 6"...but your implying this "The 3DS weighs approximately 230 grams (8.1 oz) and, when closed, is 134 mm (5.3 in) wide, 74 mm (2.9 in) broad, and 21 mm (0.83 in)" fits in a pocket comfortably. I'm not going to waste any more time on this.

Re:...and you are not a child (1)

damnbunni (1215350) | 1 year,27 days | (#43266801)

Not only does my 3DS fit comfortably in my pocket, I can put a DSi XL in my pocket without any issues.

Granted, the DSi XL only fits in a front pants pocket, but my 3DS fits in a back pocket, or a shirt pocket.

How small are your pockets?

Re:...and you are not a child (1)

pspahn (1175617) | 1 year,27 days | (#43266927)

How small are your pockets?

...and thus, the transfer of power over to China was complete. Lacking only the knowledge that, this entire time, they had simply been living with undersized pockets, the Chinese adapted by mandating all pants and shirt pockets, from the present going forward, must be large enough to accommodate not only one's hands during inclement weather, but also one's phone, key sets, spare coins, a snack for later, and some item the Ms. wants you to hold while you go for a walk together.

With their new found power, the Chinese quickly adapted to their new utilities, and quickly enslaved the world.

Re:...and you are not a child (1)

unkiereamus (1061340) | 1 year,27 days | (#43266883)

Just for shits and giggles, I took a ruler to my pockets. My front pockets are 11" deep by 6 inches wide. My thigh pockets are 8" by 8" (this is where I'd probably care a 3DS, were I to carry one), hell, the cell phone pocket is 5.5"x2.6" with a 1" accordion...that might be a little tight, but is probably doable. My shirt pocket is 5" by 6"...should easily fit, though I wouldn't carry it there, because it would ruin the lay of the shirt.

Now, granted, most people don't wear pants with thigh pockets and cellphone pockets (Actually, I think it's supposed to be a magazine pocket, but...), but my other pockets aren't abnormally large. Why the hell shouldn't someone carry a 3DS in a pocket?

Re:...and you are not a child (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43270093)

I carry a 3DS in my shirt pocket whenever I wear a shirt that has a pocket. It fits fine.

Even the original gameboy was 6"...but your implying this "The 3DS weighs approximately 230 grams (8.1 oz) and, when closed, is 134 mm (5.3 in) wide, 74 mm (2.9 in) broad, and 21 mm (0.83 in)" fits in a pocket comfortably. I'm not going to waste any more time on this.

What are you talking about? The original Gameboy was 5.8" long, not the screen size, the entire device. iPhone 5 is 4.9" long with a 4" screen. The Gameboy, DS and Vita are all pocketable devices.

Re:Except it doesn't (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | 1 year,27 days | (#43267593)

A vita (playstation portable) or an DS *never* fitted in pocket, the playstation portable is 7" :). The fit in pocket myth something Apple users have to justify screen envy.

No, the purpose for limiting screen sizes on the iPhone is it's too (*#&@%^ hard to use a 5" screen single-handledly. If you're looking up some information on your phone while your other hand is busy (holding a cup of coffee, an umbrella, your shopping, whatever), being able to reach the entire screen with your thumb might be useful. Perhaps to look up directions or whatever. Or to send a quick text.

For gaming, larger is better, because you have both hands holding it - whether it be Vita, (3)DS, phablet, tablet, whatever. (And yes, my 3DS fits in my pocket just fine). But I don't expect to play my 3DS/Vita/tablet single handedly because the use case for it isn't there.

OTOH, a large screen android phablet has a great advantage - it's impossible to text and drive with those things because you can't use it single-handedly without it being awkward in some way. So yay to road safety to boo to Apple for making it possible to have one hand on the wheel and one on their phone. With a Note or something? Impossible unless you can text using one side of the keyboard.

As for this - make sure you buy it from a place with a good return policy, because Archos devices have really bad LCD screens. As in dead pixel bad (really - has anyone seen dead pixels? All the Archos ones I've seen had 4 or 5 until I returned them enough times to get a perfect one).

Re:Except it doesn't (1)

eharvill (991859) | 1 year,26 days | (#43268871)

A vita (playstation portable) or an DS *never* fitted in pocket, the playstation portable is 7" :). The fit in pocket myth something Apple users have to justify screen envy.

No, the purpose for limiting screen sizes on the iPhone is it's too (*#&@%^ hard to use a 5" screen single-handledly. If you're looking up some information on your phone while your other hand is busy (holding a cup of coffee, an umbrella, your shopping, whatever), being able to reach the entire screen with your thumb might be useful. Perhaps to look up directions or whatever. Or to send a quick text.

This is absolutely true. I took this for granted when I picked up a Galaxy S3 for my personal phone. My work issued phone is an iPhone 4s and I find I use it much more often simply because its size. I prefer Android over IOS, but the S3 rarely get used unless I am at my desk or sitting on my couch for example. When I'm on the go (which seems more often than not) I am using the iPhone. My next Droid will be more of a "single-handed" form factor.

Re:Except it doesn't (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43269061)

The Vita fits in a pocket just fine. It's significantly smaller area than an N7. Screen size is measured diagonally the extra controls don't make it 7"

Control precision fail (1)

tepples (727027) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265471)

Due to the failure of the iPhone in major gaming markets...

What?

I tried using a phone to play video games in traditionally controller-based genres, such as platformers, falling block games, and fighting games. The controls weren't quite as precise as decades-old NES controls because my thumbs couldn't feel whether they were centered over the on-screen buttons. How do the most successful iPhone games simulate a gamepad with more than one button?

Re:Control precision fail (1)

ninlilizi (2759613) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265687)

They reduce the difficulty to compensate.
I'd imagion those cheap bluetooth pad you can buy off ebay introduce latency too.

IMHO, the only realistic way to get a close to genuine NES experience is with attaching physical controlls somewhere.
It's USB latency, but still a hair ahead of Bluetooth latency.

Re:Integrated Controls Better (1)

blackest_k (761565) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265495)

I've got a sony compatible controller which I could use with my 10 inch tablet but kind of pointless unless i bother to connect the hdmi out to a TV. I've not seen any kind of external controls that attach to a tablet yet. Archos have included a mapping option to change onscreen controls to physical buttons that in itself is an advantage over some other tablets.

It can only help Gaming on Android to have the physical controls available. It could be a replacement for the venerable psp.

Re:Integrated Controls Better (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43266033)

The Sixaxis app for connecting PS3 controllers to rooted android devices also has a mapping option.

Trying to parse (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265467)

The reason why handheld consoles don't include separate controls

"Real" dedicated handheld devices do not have a primary goal of lowest cost, and are also heavily subsidized with the expectation of royalties from game sales. This device gets no royalties, all costs are baked in. So the 3DS for example is not nearly as cheap a device as the sales price makes it seem. this gamepad is exactly as cheap as the price makes it seem - it has a lower quality screen and more sluggish processor than a good Android phone or iPhone.

pitiful screen sizes

The iPhone 5 screen is larger than the 3DS. Perhaps you've heard of it. There is the 3DSxl, but then there's also the iPad mini.

Due to the failure of the iPhone in major gaming markets

It's such a failure that many third party controllers exist that support it... and there are tens of thousands of games. You just beclowned youself to such a degree, how could anyone take anything you say further seriously?

android will become the gaming platform of choice

Do you really want to live in a world where one platform wins? I sure don't, and happily this time it is not the case. The reality is that Android will be *a* platform of choice.

There may be other problems with the device but integrates controls, and large screen are not them, but the price is amazing.

As we see from the review that is the only thing that is amazing. If you want a good device to play games, you are in fact better off as I asserted - buying a really good tablet/phone as the base to play games on, and then buying good dedicated controllers to pair with it.

Android Needs a real competitor (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265935)

Do you really want to live in a world where one platform wins?

...that is built from open source software [the kernel], using open standards, on predominantly open hardware, used on a massive range of hardware ranging from phones/tablets with extra electronic paper/lcd screen, has stylus/gamepad for input, some even include projector. So yeah...pretty happy, hopefully the proprietary hardware/software/standards that the old abusing monopolies like Apple/Microsoft will be gone one day.

Its a massive step up from the nightmare duopoly that stagnated the PC market.

Re:Android Needs a real competitor (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | 1 year,27 days | (#43267195)

...that is built from open source software [the kernel], using open standards, on predominantly open hardware

Wow, Bullshit is the new Nazi! I declare Bullshit Goodwin.

Since you can't think rationally, good luck having the future surprise the hell out of you.

Re:Seems better to buy controls independently... (1)

Nemyst (1383049) | 1 year,27 days | (#43267679)

Integrated controller usually means a lot less clutter. For something that's supposed to be portable, that's a huge selling point. I could take my phone and use a Sixaxis controller with it, but that's bulky. I've not heard of a smaller controller designed for it, and most that I have seen are fairly limited, going for the "retro" gaming style with few buttons and no analog sticks.

With an integrated controller, you're looking at something that competes with portable game consoles like the 3DS or PS Vita. That could be a very interesting proposition provided the whole thing isn't too bulky and can still work as a general purpose device.

The problem with Archos is that they usually have good core ideas, but poor execution. Cheap building materials, skimping on components to shave off a few cents (they stuck with resistive touchscreens for way too long), poor ergonomics, you name it. It would appear that this is once more the same kind of deal. It doesn't help that for some reason I can't fathom, Google's not very good at supporting games on Android. They exist, but they have poor visibility and little support, so the Play store usually ends up showcasing cheap freemium games and fucking Angry Birds.

The one combined device that people should keep an eye on is Nvidia's Project Shield [nvidia.com]. If there's one company out there who's fairly savvy about games and gaming hardware, it's them, and the prospect of Shield looks really interesting.

Chinese Win (1)

p0p0 (1841106) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265103)

So far the JXD S7300 is cheaper and has been getting better reviews, aside from a few hardware faults with the controls and poor soldering jobs.
http://www.jxd.hk/products.asp?id=627&selectclassid=009006 [www.jxd.hk]

Cheaper too. And these chinese tabs tend to get lots of good community support.

8GB?!?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43265107)

Modern Combat 4 and Hot pursuit both take up about 2GB each. You'll be able to fit only a few decent high quality games on that at a time. What were they thinking?

Expansion Slot :) (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265211)

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/GamePad-Jelly-Bean-Cortex-A9-Thumbpad-ABXY,21678.html [tomshardware.com] from toms hardware "Powering this "gablet" are two 1.6 GHz Cortex-A9 CPU cores and four Mali 400 MP GPU cores, 1 GB of RAM, and Android 4.1 "Jelly Bean". For storage, the gadget coughs up 8 GB of internal space (less than that after Android) and a microSD card slot for up to 64 GB of added space."

Re:Expansion Slot :) (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43265733)

Use it on an HD large screen tv via the hdmi cable with the Gamepad tablet's built in accelerometer for driving games. That's how I use the 7G3 Archos tablet, also works great for YouTube / Netflix viewing.

"Gamepad" takes a new meaning (4, Insightful)

Nyder (754090) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265143)

While I understand using the word pad, since it's been another name for tablets, the word "gamepad" has meant video game controllers for over 2 decades.

This is a hand held video game console. Sure, that's a lot of words to describe 1 object, and could use 1 word, but the word "gamepad" is already taken by a gaming device. Will this cause confusion? I think so, I thought at first it was a game controller with a touch pad on it, not a screen.

Re:"Gamepad" takes a new meaning (1)

hedwards (940851) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265209)

Oh, so this isn't sort of like the Wii U controller then. I thought that this was sort of like that controller Nintendo had made, so, yes, this is definitely confusing as I was expecting something that could be hooked up to a PC or console.

Re:"Gamepad" takes a new meaning (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43265265)

Why would you want to hook it up to a PC or console? It looks horrible for more than simple portable games. Who wants to use that instead of a Dual Shock or 360 controller?

No its a handheld console (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265305)

Why would you want to hook it up to a PC or console? It looks horrible for more than simple portable games. Who wants to use that instead of a Dual Shock or 360 controller?

Its a dedicated gaming device, along the lines of the famous Gameboy. So not *hooked* up to the TV a dedicated device in its own right.

Re:"Gamepad" takes a new meaning (1)

hedwards (940851) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265413)

I don't know, but Nintendo thinks that having a touchscreen on the controller is a good thing, so there's presumably a market of people that think likewise.

Re:"Gamepad" takes a new meaning (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43265223)

If Nintendo can pretend an oversized phone is a gamepad, so can other people.

Re:"Gamepad" takes a new meaning (1)

dreamchaser (49529) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265333)

And 'tablet' meant a clay slab you carved writing into at one point. Words and their definitions are fluid. The term 'gamepad' for a tablet device geared towards gaming is perfectly logical.

Re:"Gamepad" takes a new meaning (1)

jones_supa (887896) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265715)

Another confusing one is to use "mousepad" for "touchpad", while at the same time "mousepad" means the pad under a desktop mouse.

Re:"Gamepad" takes a new meaning (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43268305)

No one says that.

Really, no one.

Meh... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265197)

If the games dont support the extra hardware it's a waste. a Nexus 7 works as very nice "game pad" already.

Better than a tablet. (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265283)

If the games dont support the extra hardware it's a waste. a Nexus 7 works as very nice "game pad" already.

It comes with a utility to *remap* to keys, which comes with games already done. The xperia play a device that has been out since 1st April 2011 already has significant support for its joypad, expanding support these should be trivial for any programmer.

Gamepads are *great* for 1-touch platforms, and RTS, Tower Defence, Simple puzzle games, but suck incredibly badly at anything else. I bought an Xperia Play, and *always* use the gamepad if its supported [in reality I choose games that support it]. As a gamer with the Nexus 7, its internal storage only option is *significantly* limiting for gamers. Dungeon Defenders which came as part of 5th Linux/Android bundle comes in at 5GB. I can't even install it right now.

Who else bought an Xperia Play? (1)

tepples (727027) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265423)

Gamepads are *great* for 1-touch platforms, and RTS, Tower Defence, Simple puzzle games, but suck incredibly badly at anything else

The impression I get from comments to previous stories about phones vs. dedicated handheld video game systems that is that mobile game developers should stick to developing "1-touch platforms, and RTS, Tower Defence, Simple puzzle games" if they want any market, especially before they're big enough to qualify to develop for the PlayStation Vita or Nintendo 3DS.

I bought an Xperia Play

How many other people did? If there are few Xperia Play and Archos GamePad units in circulation, it isn't profitable to develop a game with Xperia Play and Archos GamePad as the primary targets and treat the majority of phones, which would require on-screen buttons, as an afterthought.

Enough to get significant game support (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265459)

If there are few Xperia Play and Archos GamePad units in circulation, it isn't profitable to develop a game with Xperia Play and Archos GamePad as the primary targets and treat the majority of phones, which would require on-screen buttons, as an afterthought.

Except developer *aren't* developing with one platform in mind [its simply poor business]...and I'm not talking indie games, I am talking electronic arts. Humble Bundle are up to their 5th Android [and windows/Mac/Linux] gaming bundle...

...here is the games http://blog.humblebundle.com/post/44641397764/humble-bundle-with-android-5-has-landed [humblebundle.com] with the exception of solar 2 are any of those games more suitable played on a screen.

Re:Better than a tablet. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43271163)

My android tablet has NO keys. so I would not program for any keys at all. Remapping keys will not work.

Why would I program my game to use the key F for anything when there is no keyboard? Therefore remapping will not work at all.

Re:Meh... (1)

BitZtream (692029) | 1 year,27 days | (#43268207)

Games don't have to support the hardware. The physical buttons can be configured so apps see the physical buttons as on screen touch input. It works with most games already though its probably not useful for something like fruit ninja which doesn't use fixed position onscreen controls

At $200 bucks (3, Informative)

rsilvergun (571051) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265327)

why wouldn't I just get a Vita? There are some neat looking Android games, but nothing that approaches a killer app. The Vita at least has Sony backing. Then there's the 3DS too.

...its cheaper than the vita.... (3, Informative)

tuppe666 (904118) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265427)

why wouldn't I just get a Vita? There are some neat looking Android games, but nothing that approaches a killer app. The Vita at least has Sony backing. Then there's the 3DS too.

...with a bigger screen, standard micro sd cards [up to 64bg], Games at a 30th of their cost, Use it with your Android Play account, and do all the other exciting things you can so with Android.

Re:...its cheaper than the vita.... (1)

crossmr (957846) | 1 year,27 days | (#43266111)

Like not play games?
It doesn't matter if the screen is the size of a fucking wall if there are no real decent games to play with it.

Re:...its cheaper than the vita.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43268133)

Emulators, tough boy, emulators.

Re:...its cheaper than the vita.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43266829)

hurr durr tuppe666's typical fandroid crap.

you do realize you are on the internet actively defending a billion dollar ad network's mobile platform as the future of computing and gaming. a platform that isn't even actually free software, it just happens to be vaguely open source.

Re:...its cheaper than the vita.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43269993)

Exciting things? Like being tracked, placed in a demographic and being marketed to. Oh boy.

Re:...its cheaper than the vita.... (1)

nightfury (2826503) | 1 year,26 days | (#43271155)

The Vita at least has Sony backing.

This is exactly why I would prefer this device over a Vita.

Re:At $200 bucks (1)

nbuet (944469) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265437)

why wouldn't I just get a Vita?

... what about because vita games are 25-50USD a piece, while android are free to 10USD?

Re:At $200 bucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43269093)

well you pay for quality. and the prices are more like $5-40. many people are only buying vita games in the sub $20 range (and there are a lot of them with sales either at retail or on the playstation store)

Developers (1, Redundant)

tepples (727027) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265445)

why wouldn't I just get a Vita [or] 3DS

Sony or Nintendo require developers to meet certain for industry experience, financial stability, and office security before allowing developers onto their handheld video game systems. A lot of indie developers don't qualify, especially amateurs and startups. Remember Bob's Game?

Re:Developers (1)

Tr3vin (1220548) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265559)

There are a lot of indies developing for the 3DS. Bob was an idiot for thinking that working on hacked systems for a few years would somehow get past Nintendo. They have even started to loosen some of the restrictions, such as office security.

Re:Developers (1)

tepples (727027) | 1 year,27 days | (#43266903)

Bob was an idiot for thinking that working on hacked systems for a few years would somehow get past Nintendo.

So what should he have done instead to demonstrate "game industry experience" for Pelloni Entertainment? Would having prototyped the game fully on a PC count?

They have even started to loosen some of the restrictions, such as office security.

Thanks for pointing out the change to the Apply page [warioworld.com], which no longer mentions "home office" or "residence", just that it is "lockable".

Re:At $200 bucks (1)

gl4ss (559668) | 1 year,26 days | (#43269179)

emulators.

that's why cnet gave it bad points, they deliberately ignored that they exist, because they're cnet.

8gb HDD???? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43265485)

The linked article says it contains a 8gb HDD. Someone certainly doesn't understand technology.

Issues (2)

Dan East (318230) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265503)

I don't have one, but basically summarizing from the CNET review, the problems are the exact same problems I see with any cheap, no-name tablet:

* Poor display (very limited viewing angle, washed out colors).
* Poor battery life (2 hours gaming, 4 hours watching video, 8 hours on standby doing nothing at all).
* Poorly designed physical controls. D-Pad consisting of 4 individual buttons was the worst the reviewer had ever seen on any gaming device. Analog sticks are stiff.

The battery and the display are what sets apart the premium devices from the cheap ones, and that's how they get the price down. This device appears to be no exception.

Re:Issues (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265565)

* Poorly designed physical controls. D-Pad consisting of 4 individual buttons was the worst the reviewer had ever seen on any gaming device. Analog sticks are stiff.

I own an Xperia Play, which was the first Android phone specifically designed for gaming. The ergonomics are shit. When I looked at the picture of this Archos tablet I thought HAND CRAMPS. And THAT, friends, is why gaming handhelds suck. It makes much more sense to have a slider keyboard if anything, and have the gamepad hold up the tablet/MID/phone, because then you can get decent ergonomics.

There's no point to a dedicated gaming device that it hurts to play games on! If I'd paid full price for my phone instead of buying it used way behind the curve simply because it was cheap, I'd be really pissed off at it, Sony, and myself.

Re:Issues (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265661)

Some Archos tablet users connect and map an XBox USB controller, which is said to work well.

Re:Issues (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43265811)

Why not use any other Android tablet then? Lots of ways to map a controller. Nexus 7 is a much better device...

Re:Issues (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265899)

There's any number of ways you can go now. Lack of microSD card on the Nexus would keep me from buying that, wtf was Google thinking? (I know, the "cloud" is all you need, I don't always want the "cloud".)

Wired.com review (2)

SternisheFan (2529412) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265579)

ired.Wired gave this an 8/10 star rating, not too shabby... http://www.wired.com/reviews/2013/03/archos-gamepad/ [wired.com]

Archos / Arnova devices also enjoy a great online community with lots of modding at www.Arctablet.com . I own the $100 Arnova 7G3 tablet, damn nice little tablet with ICS, hdmi out, usb support and decent battery. Keep in mind that these aren't $700 tablets, and all of todays high end tablets are going to be outdated in a year or two.

controller via case? (1)

sixsixtysix (1110135) | 1 year,27 days | (#43265725)

does anyone make a case for any (most likely, very specific) phones, that adds controller features either through bluetooth or said phone's data port? seems like there should be.

Re:controller via case? (1)

tepples (727027) | 1 year,27 days | (#43266907)

does anyone make a case for any (most likely, very specific) phones, that adds controller features either through bluetooth or said phone's data port?

There used to be something called the iControlPad, a Bluetooth game controller that clips onto a standard smartphone.

CNET is a joke, but so is Archos (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43265803)

CNET is the very definition of a 'bent' site. For this gaming device, the morons at CNET attacked the 1024x600 resolution, showing just how hard they were trying to trash the device. For gaming, given the relatively weak power of current Android GPUs, the last thing you want is 'retina' resolutions.

But Archos. Well here's the thing. Archos release new models on a VERY regular basis, meaning that old models frequently turn up at 'bargain' prices. So, people show a lot of potential interest in forums, and many people buy the discounted models. The universal experience is that Archos stinks as a brand, even when you pay a fraction of the original asking price. Quality control is the main issue- there is none. Even their high-end tablets (and these can be VERY expensive on release) flex so much, the LCD suffers pressure distortion spots. This from a company that releases videos dedicated to selling their wonderful new methods for building tablet cases.

Archos also uses cheapo components- this gaming tablet foregoes IPS when every cheapo Chinese no-brand at the cost specs a much better display.

The fact that Archos is choking out a new range of tablets every 8 months (many of them semi-re-badged Chinese parts) means that Archos rapidly disowns older models.

See, here's the problem. Why would you buy Archos over the best of the current Chinese no-brands? If you want a brand with first class support, why wouldn't you go Amazon or Google? Obviously, in this case Archos is selling a specialised product with few rivals, but if Archos struggles to make its more expensive tablets worth owning, what on Earth do you think the quality of their more gimmicky tablets will be like?

In a 7in format, this processor is too power hungry for the battery when gaming. Rockchip's ARM SoC was built on an old process and is seriously compromised by this. They have better SoC parts now being released, but they are probably too weak in the GPU for new Android gaming tablets. Nvidia's Tegra 4 is probably the first gaming SoC worth standing behind, but it is late and (currently) expensive. It will be a much better match for mains-powered Android gaming 'consoles' (like the OUYA) than the rather pathetic Tegra 3 current being used.

Proper Android gaming is coming, and faster than most of you realise. Tegra 4, and the next high-end Apple ARM SoC part later this year have some very significant GPU grunt. Tegra 5 brings a PC class GPU (in features, not speed) and PowerVR has big ambitions too. AMD is likely to throw its hat into the ring as well in the near future. In this light, the Archos gaming pad can be seen as the first serious attempt to address this market, even if early adopters almost always get burnt.

Re:CNET is a joke, but so is Archos (1)

tepples (727027) | 1 year,27 days | (#43266919)

Why would you buy Archos over the best of the current Chinese no-brands?

Some parents of kids who might want a handheld gaming device might choose whatever is sold in a local brick and mortar electronics retailer. I haven't seen JXD products in Best Buy, but I have occasionally seen Archos products.

Reviewer really likes GTA (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,27 days | (#43265951)

In case you didn't read the article, it doesn't play Grand Theft Auto. He mentions this 3 separate times in the review.

It sounds like a review by a teenager who bought it to play one game, and it doesn't play that game. He has valid complaints, but the tone comes across as "bratty teen with grudge."

Archos (2)

TheRecklessWanderer (929556) | 1 year,27 days | (#43266325)

I said it before, and i'll say it again. Archos products in general are good except for one thing, and that one thing always makes them bad. Trying to get support from them is like pulling teeth. I owned an archos pad for 6 months, and i had to replace it twice. Well, i should say it broke three times. the 3rd time i just threw it in the garbage and bought something else.

Lousy, lousy, lousy Amazon write-up (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | 1 year,27 days | (#43266643)

The Amazon page for this device says it has two CPUs (it has one quad-core CPU) and it runs (!) Windows Mobile. It also fails to mention that it can take up to 64gb micro sdxc (though that comes up in the reviews).

Re:Lousy, lousy, lousy Amazon write-up (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43271681)

From the spec sheet:

Processor - ARM Cortex A9 Dual-Core @ 1.6 GHz, Quad-Core GPU Mali 400 MP, 3D OpenGL (ES 2.0)

Product features has Android as the OS but the Technical Details has XP Pro. I'm not sure where that screw up came from, but this listing is from Gaiacom not Amazon itself.

http://www.amazon.com/Archos-GamePad-Capacitive-Touchscreen-Android/dp/B00ADLCC9I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364226556&sr=8-1&keywords=archos+gamepad [amazon.com]

Not a new idea,but games dont support real buttons (4, Insightful)

bobjr94 (1120555) | 1 year,27 days | (#43267387)

Ive have a JXD S7100 (2.3, single core 7" with Dpads, stick and buttons) and a newer S7300 (4.1, dual core, analog stick, more buttons) and specs are pretty much inline with this tablet. Problem being very few games work with any hardware controls, they use sloppy and inaccurate virtual touch controls. The 7300 does have a remapping app built in, to use the hardware controls on a touch screen game, but only works on some games. Until the app makers spend a bit more effort and give options for hardware controllers, android gaming will not take off, besides fairly casual games.

News item : CNET dislikes non-Windows computer (0)

mr_mischief (456295) | 1 year,26 days | (#43270901)

Today, CNET gave a poor review to a computing system that runs an OS not written by Microsoft. Film at 11.

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