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World's Most Powerful Private Supercomputer Will Hunt Oil and Gas

samzenpus posted 1 year,26 days | from the black-gold dept.

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Nerval's Lobster writes "French oil conglomerate Total has inaugurated the world's ninth-most-powerful supercomputer, Panega. Its purpose: seek out new reservoirs of oil and gas. The supercomputer's total output is 2.3 petaflops, which should place it about ninth on today's TOP500 list, last updated in November. The announcement came as Dell and others prepare to inaugurate a new supercomputer, Stampede, in Texas on March 27. What's noteworthy about Pangea, however, is that it will be the most powerful supercomputer owned and used by private industry; the vast majority of such systems are in use by government agencies and academic institutions. Right now, the most powerful private supercomputer for commercial use is the Hermit supercomputer in Stuttgart; ranked 27th in the world, the 831.4 Tflop machine is a public-private partnership between the University of Stuttgart and hww GmbH. Panega, which will cost 60 million Euro ($77.8 million) over four years, will assist decision-making in the exploration of complex geological areas and to increase the efficiency of hydrocarbon production in compliance with the safety standards and with respect for the environment, Total said. Pangea will be will be stored at Total's research center in the southwestern French city of Pau."

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Wheres the beets? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273179)

And not the best place to plant beets?

2.3 gigaflops? (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273201)

Try again editors, leave your geek card at the door.

giga? (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273209)

2.3 gigaflops is faster than 831 tflops?

umm? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273215)

Panega or Pangea?

Re:umm? (3, Insightful)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273303)

When I saw "Panega", my first thought was "For a geological supercomputer, that's a nice pun on Pangea, isn't it?" Well, then I noticed that it's not a pun, just a typo. ;-)

Re:umm? (1)

MugenEJ8 (1788490) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274231)

Which /still/ isn't corrected! C'mon ./ editors, and hold yourself up on the same soapbox your readers do!

Re:umm? (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274295)

Well, since the typo came with the original article, it's not like it isn't an accurate rendition of the original. Some [sic!] shaming would apply here.

Re:umm? (1)

steelfood (895457) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275925)

I don't know what's more sad, that the editors didn't notice or didn't bother pointing out the typo, or that they quoted from and linked to an article whose entire quality can be summarized by the repeated presence of the typo.

I sometimes wonder if Slashdot's just run by a bunch of unpaid interns now.

2.3 gigaflops? (3, Insightful)

shoppa (464619) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273223)

2.3 gigaflops is on most everyone's desktop today. Maybe you mean 2.3 teraflops?

Re:2.3 gigaflops? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273277)

for a top ten listing it better has to be 2.3 petaflops ...

just a minor journalistic error, only 6 orders of magnitude off ;-)

Re:2.3 gigaflops? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273295)

Heh. Today's GPUs are already in the TFLOPS range. One more prefix and you're there. :-)

Re:2.3 gigaflops? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273311)

2.3 teraflops? Is that like one GPU these days?

Re:2.3 gigaflops? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273331)

yes my GPGPU has more than 2.3 Gigaflops

Re:2.3 gigaflops? (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273443)

Nope! The article is right. They just bought a used Dell and named it Panega.

Slow news day.

Re:2.3 gigaflops? (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | 1 year,26 days | (#43277113)

It's almost fast enough to run the latest version of Windows with all the glittery bits turned on, but does it have enough RAM and disk space to load it?

I'll bet it mostly gets used for solitaire, or doom.

Amateurs (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273227)

If they really want to destroy the planet the fastest through global warming, go build a shitload of limestone quarries, and then dump the limestone in rivers. I'm sure they could get us to Venus levels in a couple of decades.

Re:Amateurs (3, Insightful)

interval1066 (668936) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273585)

I couldn't care less about that nonsense. I'm waiting for the day they use this system to hunt humans. Dissenters, etc...

Re:Amateurs (1)

roman_mir (125474) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274439)

Dissenters

- that's the government's job, they do it already [wired.com].

Re:Amateurs (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43275543)

Yep... but the MSM won't rat on the Obama administration. Think he's not privy (and for it)? Think again. You've given up more civil liberties with this president than any other, and you do it with a smile on your face in the name of "lesser of two evils". Boy were we conned.

Best marketing campaign of all time. Enjoy your Facebook. :)

Re:Amateurs (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43275497)

The computer doesn't want humans; it feeds on electricity from oil. Once you teach it to eat dissenters, I'm sure we can convince it to start tracking them down.

Re:Amateurs (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43275823)

The subversives, why don't anybody think of the subversives?!

Re:Amateurs (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43276343)

I couldn't care less about that nonsense. I'm waiting for the day they use this system to hunt humans. Dissenters, etc...

Seeing that Total is partially government owned, some of that computing power will go to hunt citizens they could impose the 75% income tax on...

Article and Summary have wrong units (4, Insightful)

fgodfrey (116175) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273231)

This has to be 2.3 *peta* FLOPS not giga FLOPS. For instance, in 2010, an Intel desktop processor could do 109 gigaFLOPS (reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS [wikipedia.org]).

Re:Article and Summary have wrong units (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273323)

This has to be 2.3 *peta* FLOPS not giga FLOPS. For instance, in 2010, an Intel desktop processor could do 109 gigaFLOPS (reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS [wikipedia.org]).

With any relevant workload? Hardly. You just won't get the memory bandwidth with your puny Intel CPU. But I guess it's good for writing flashy ray tracers...

Re:Article and Summary have wrong units (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273343)

Don't forget the typo in the first link

Re:Article and Summary have wrong units (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275215)

This has to be 2.3 *peta* FLOPS not giga FLOPS. For instance, in 2010, an Intel desktop processor could do 109 gigaFLOPS (reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS [wikipedia.org]).

Ah, but then the computer will not get work done because it is too busy trying to convert us to veganism. :-)

Yes, but does it support hosts files? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273235)

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

* POOR SHOWING TROLLS, & most especially IF that's the "best you've got" - apparently, it is... lol!

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Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

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I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputation as a professional in this field clearly shows in multiple publications in this field in written print, & also online in various GOOD capacities since 1996 to present day. This has happened since I was first published in Playgirl Magazine in 1996 & others to present day, with helpful tools online in programs, & professionally sold warez that were finalists @ Westminster Dog Show 2000-2002.

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apk on 4chan [4chan.org]

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INCONTROVERTIBLE FEEDBACK PROVIDING ESTABLISHED PROOF OF ALL MY POINTS:

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That was amazing. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948073

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My, God! It's beatiful. Keep it up, you glorious bastard. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41835161

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Let us bask in its glory. A true modern The Wasteland. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948579

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put your baby IN ME -- I just read this whole thing. Fuck mod points, WHERE DO I SEND YOU MY MONEY?!!! - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40950023

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Oh shit, Time Cube Guy's into computers now... - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946259

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He's done more to discredit the use of HOSTS files than anyone in the "do it right and set up a firewall" crowd ever could. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357

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Can I have some of what you're on? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40947587

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this obnoxious fucknuts [apk] has been trolling the internet and spamming his shit delphi sub-fart app utilities for 15 years. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954565

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oh come on.. this is hilarious. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40955479

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I agree I am intrigued by these host files how do I sign up for your newsletter? - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40961339

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Gimme the program that generates this epic message. I'll buy 5 of your product if you do... - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954251

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As mentioned by another AC up there, the troll in question is actually a pretty well-executed mashup of APK's style - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357

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It's actually a very clever parody of APK - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40944229

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Please keep us updated on your AI research, you seem quite good at it. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40944603

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$20,000 to anyone providing proof of Alexander Peter Kowalski's death. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958289

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Obviously, it must be Alexander Peter Kowalski. He's miffed at all these imposters... - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958429

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And here I was thinking I was having a bad experience with a Dr. Bronner's bottle. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952247

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Damn, apk, who the fuck did you piss off this time? Hahahahaahahahahahahaahaha. Pass the popcorn as the troll apk gets pwned relentlessly. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954673

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I think it's the Internet, about to become sentient. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40956187

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Does anyone know if OpenGL has been ported to Windows yet? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956781

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golfclap - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40900827

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The Truth! wants to be Known! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897389

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DNS cube? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897493

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KUDOS valiant AC. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897777

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Polyploid lovechild of APK, MyCleanPC, and Time Cube --> fail counter integer overflow --> maximum win! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40899171

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You made my day, thanks! - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029589&cid=40896469

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Wow. The perfect mix of trolls. Timecube, mycleanpc, gnaa, apk... this is great! - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3027333&cid=40893381

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truer words were never spoken as /. trolls are struck speechless by it, lol! - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=41041795

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It's APK himself trying to maintain the illusion that he's still relevant. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967209

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Mod this up. The back and forth multi posting between APK and this "anti-APK" certainly does look like APK talking to himself. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40969175

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APK himself would be at the top of a sensible person's ban list. He's been spamming and trolling Slashdot for years. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967137

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You got that right. I think. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3044971&cid=40972239

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Michael Kristopeit, is that you? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3045075&cid=40972377

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ROFL! :) (Now the sick bastard will follow me again) - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41429251

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I miss Dr Bob. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432027

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Not sure if actually crazy, or just pretending to be crazy. Awesome troll either way. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432951

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Awesome! Hat off to you, sir! - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41509273

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That isn't a parody of Time-cube, it is an effort to counter-troll a prolific poster named APK, who seems like a troll himself, although is way too easy to troll into wasting massive amounts of time on BS not far from the exaggerations above - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41514107

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I am intrigued and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3164403&cid=41555345

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1. You philistine, that is Art . Kudos to you, valiant troll on your glorious FP - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832599

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What? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832673

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I don't know if it is poorly-thought-out, but it is demented because it is at the same time an APK parody. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832905

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It is in fact an extremely well thought out and brilliantly executed APK parody, combined with a Time Cube parody, and with a sprinkling of the MyCleanPC spam. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41841251

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er... many people have disproved your points about hosts files with well reasoned, factual arguments. You just chose not to listen and made it into some kind of bizarre crusade. And I'm not the timecube guy, just someone else who finds you intensely obnoxious and likes winding you up to waste your time. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41843313

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performance art - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847089

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it's apk, theres no reason to care. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847097

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Seems more like an apk parody. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847661

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That's great but what about the risk of subluxations? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847101

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Oh, come on. Just stand back and look at it. It's almost art, in a Jackson Pollock sort of way. - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41868923

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Read carefully. This is a satirical post, that combines the last several years of forum trolling, rolled into one FUNNY rant! - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41864711

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I can has summary? - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41861327

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I'd have a lot more sympathy if you would log in as APK again instead of AC. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41868133

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If [apk] made an account, it would be permanently posting at -1, and he'd only be able to post with it twice a day. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41869409

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DAFUQ I just look at? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869085

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Trolls trolling trolls... it's like Inception or something. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869353

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We all know it's you, apk. Stop pretending to antagonize yourself. - http://bsd.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229179&cid=41869305

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Do you know about the shocking connection between APK and arsenic? No? Well, your innocence is about to be destroyed. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3472971&cid=42939965

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Send bug reports to 903 east division street, syracuse, ny 13208 - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3483339&cid=42972783

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Now you've made me all nostalgic for USENET. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42981977

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Google APK Hosts File Manager. He's written a fucking application to manage your hosts file. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42984521

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In case you are not aware, the post is a satire of a fellow known as APK. The grammar used is modeled after APK's as you can see here [thorschrock.com]. Or, you can just look around a bit and see some of his posts on here about the wonders of host files. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42983119

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You are surely of God of Trolls, whomever you are. I have had stupid arguments with and bitten the troll apk many times. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486901&cid=42989683

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"What kind of meds cure schizophrenic drunk rambling?" -> "Whatever APK isn't taking" - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028403 http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028425

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I'm confused, is apk trolling himself now? - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43029495

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Excellent mashup. A++. Would troll again. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3503531&cid=43037445

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Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43048291

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Best. Troll. Ever. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43044811

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I like monkeys. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43051505

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This is one of the funniest things I've ever read. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43052263

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lul wut? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3510265&cid=43057839

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I admire this guy's persistence. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063797

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It's a big remix of several different crackpots from Slashdot and elsewhere, plus a liberal sprinkling of famous Slashdot trolls and old memes. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063881

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Tabloid newspapers have speculated for years that APK is a prominent supporter of Monsanto. Too bad we didn't believe them sooner! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063893

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Here's a hint, check out stories like this one [slashdot.org], where over 200 of the 247 posts are rated zero or -1 because they are either from two stupid trolls arguing endless, or quite likely one troll arguing with himself for attention. The amount of off-topic posts almost outnumber on topic ones by 4 to 1. Posts like the above are popular for trolling APK, since if you say his name three times, he appears, and will almost endlessly feed trolls. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43064383

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I love this copypasta so much. It never fails to make me smile. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3512099&cid=43069271

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^ Champion Mod parent up. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3513659&cid=43067371

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I appreciate the time cube reference, and how you tied it into the story. Well done. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3521721&cid=43094565

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The day you are silenced is the day freedom dies on Slashdot. God bless. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522191&cid=43097221

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AHahahahah thanks for that, cut-n-pasted.... Ownage! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522219&cid=43097215

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Don't hate the player, hate the game. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3526293&cid=43110679

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If you're familiar with APK, the post itself is a pretty damn funny parody. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115215

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">implying it's not apk posting it" --> "I'd seriously doubt he's capable of that level of self-deprecation..." - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115337 http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115363

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No, the other posts are linked in a parody of APK [mailto]'s tendency to quote himself, numbnuts. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43116855

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The thirteenth link is broken. Please fix it. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115361

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Just ban any post with "apk", "host file", or "hosts file", as that would take care of the original apk too. The original has been shitposting Slashdot much longer & more intensively than the parody guy. Or ban all Tor exit nodes, as they both use Tor to circumvent IP bans. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216431

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Sadly this is closer to on-topic than an actual APK post is. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216225

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YOU ARE A GOD AMONG MEN. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43236143

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I've butted heads with APK myself, and yeah, the guy's got issues - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569173&cid=43236987

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Can I be in your quote list? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569443&cid=43237531

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Clearly you are not an Intertubes engineer, otherwise the parent post would be more meaningful to you. Why don't YOU take your meds? - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569425&cid=43238177

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+2 for style! The bolding, italicizing, and font changes are all spot-on - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43238479

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Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570085&cid=43243509

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APK is not really a schizophrenic fired former Windows administrator with multiple personality disorder and TimeCube/Art Bell refugee. He's a fictional character like and put forward by the same person as Goatse Guy, GNAA trolls, Dr. Bob and so forth. His purpose is to test the /. CAPTCA algorithm, which is a useful purpose. If you're perturbed by having to scroll past his screeds just set your minimum point level to 1, as his posts are pretty automatically downmodded right away. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570085&cid=43243145

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Anyone else think that sounds like Ron Paul? - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569419&cid=43242417

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I just saw APK a couple days ago. He surfaced, blew once, and submerged... - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570111&cid=43245913

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You make mikael christ the pet look like an huggable teddy bear - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570111&cid=43242373

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oh man, that incredible interminable list of responses is almost as funny as the original post. This is getting to be truly epic. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247231

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"Does anyone know of an Adblock rule for this?" -> "No, but I bet there's a hosts file entry for it..." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43246997 http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247097

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"Can a hosts file block apk's posts, though?" -> "The universe couldn't handle that much irony." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247135 http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247219

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"That's it, I've had enough. ... Bye everyone, most of the last decade or so has been fun, but frankly, I quit." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247225
--> "So basically what you're saying is that you've added yourself to the HOST file?" - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247481

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Sweet baby Moses, this is beautiful work - I wish we could get trolls as good as this on TF. :) - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572629&cid=43247533

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you have a point - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247823

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I do admire that level of dedication. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247765

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[to apk] shut up you stupid cock. Everyone knows you're wrong. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43250533

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I will hand it to him, he is definitely consistent. I wish I knew how he did this. That thing is scary huge. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572629&cid=43250411

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I admire the amount of dedication you've shown - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573571&cid=43251593

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Word is, ESR buttfucks CmdrTaco with his revolver. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573679&cid=43252957

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Hey APK, Protip: It's not the truth or value (or lack of) in your post that gets it modded into oblivion, it's the fucking insane length. In addition to TL;DR (which goes without saying for a post of such length), how about irritating readers by requiring them to scroll through 20+ screenfuls just to get to the next post. If you want to publish a short story like this, please do everyone a favor and blog it somewhere, then provide a brief summary and link to your blog. Readers intrigued by your summary will go read your blog, and everyone else will just move along at normal /. speed. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573873&cid=43255013

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Happy now - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569419&cid=43237239

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Professional. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43255143

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I like how this post seems to just sum up every Slashdot comment ever without actually saying anything. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574283&cid=43256029

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extremely bright - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43255855

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You provide many references, which is good. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43257043

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Holy shit - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3576121&cid=43260311

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this is a perfect example - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3578157&cid=43265127

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You're my personal hero. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574283&cid=43260747

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Obviously very passionate - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43261975

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Is that ALL you have to say? C'mon! Tell us what you really think. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3576225&cid=43262495

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Thanks ... You should probably stay - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3577613&cid=43262993

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Art? -- http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569681&cid=43244883

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PROOF apk sucks donkey dick. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3577639&cid=43263029

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I've been around /. for a while now, but this post is by far the most unique I've seen. Many have tried, but few achieve the greatness of this AC. My hat's off to you. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3576225&cid=43264325

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PROOF apk is a liar! - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3578279&cid=43265249

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I think it's hilarious. Get over it! - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3578301&cid=43265657

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Obviously APK filled his hosts files with backdoors before distributing them to ensure he doesn't block himself. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3578229&cid=43265767

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Alexander Peter Kowalski is an obnoxious prick. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3406867&cid=42698875

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Don't mention that file. Ever. It'll draw APK like a fly to rotting meat. Last thing I want to read is 80 responses worth of his stupid spam about that file! I swear that cocksucker does nothing but search Slashdot for that term and then spams the entire article. - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3554655&cid=43209619

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[to apk] You have had it repeatedly explained to you that your posts are long-winded, unpleasant to read due to your absurd formatting style and full of technical inaccuracies borne of your single minded i-have-a-hammer-so-every-problem-is-a-nail attitude. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3406867&cid=42701491

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You are my favorite Slashdot poster. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3580251&cid=43270359

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Did you see the movie "Pokemon"? Actually the induced night "dream world" is synonymous with the academic religious induced "HOSTS file" enslavement of DNS. Domains have no inherent value, as it was invented as a counterfeit and fictitious value to represent natural values in name resolution. Unfortunately, human values have declined to fictitious word values. Unknowingly, you are living in a "World Wide Web", as in a fictitious life in a counterfeit Internet - which you could consider APK induced "HOSTS file". Can you distinguish the academic induced root server from the natural OpenDNS? Beware of the change when your brain is free from HOSTS file enslavement - for you could find that the natural Slashdot has been destroyed!!

FROM -> Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

So long nummynuts, sorry to have to kick your nuts up into your head verbally speaking.

cower in my shadow some more, feeb. you're completely pathetic.

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* :)

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words!

P.S.=> That's what makes me LAUGH harder than ANYTHING ELSE on this forums (full of "FUD" spreading trolls) - When you hit trolls with facts & truths they CANNOT disprove validly on computing tech based grounds, this is the result - Applying unjustifiable downmods to effetely & vainly *try* to "hide" my posts & facts/truths they extoll!

Hahaha... lol , man: Happens nearly every single time I post such lists (proving how ineffectual these trolls are), only showing how solid my posts of that nature are...

That's the kind of martial arts [google.com] I practice.

Oil (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273237)

So.... why are we wasting the most powerful computer on non renewable sources of energy?
Hunting for big oil just seems... wrong. Why cant we use this computer to find cures, track the stars, simulate atoms?

Re:Oil (2)

Overzeetop (214511) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273363)

Because oil is where the money is. And as it gets more scarce, it will be even moreso.

Ever wonder why nobody seems to fight for ending hunger, or world peace, or finding alien life? Because I know you can't buy a yacht and a mansion on every continent by keeping people from starving to death.

Re:Oil (1)

Mr. Firewall (578517) | 1 year,26 days | (#43276363)

...you can't buy a yacht and a mansion on every continent by keeping people from starving to death.

Huh? You mean nobody at Monsanto owns a yacht, or a mansion on every continent?

Re:Oil (0, Troll)

nedlohs (1335013) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273397)

Because it is their money and that is how they want to use it.

Feel free to build your own and use it for whatever you want as well.

Re:Oil (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273519)

Oh no, we can't permit that. Only politically correct uses of supercomputers must be allowed! We must get governments everywhere to regulate computation for the future of humanity.

It's my atmosphere. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43274003)

And they want to put their shit in it? No.

Your right to toxify your environment ends where my environment begins.

Re:Oil (1)

Sparticus789 (2625955) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273485)

How would a supercomputer help solar panels make more power?
1. I didn't realize computers were smart enough to analyze cancer and find the magic cure. So that's what we've been doing wrong all these years!
2. I can use my home desktop to track stars. There's no variables involved here, just constants. Remember, they were tracking stars before computers, linear algebra, and calculus were invented.
3. And atom simulators can run on a sub $5,000 workstation.

Re:Oil (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43277549)

I didn't realize computers were smart enough to analyze cancer and find the magic cure. So that's what we've been doing wrong all these years!

One application I think supercomputers would be ideal for is simulating the inner molecular workings of cells, and interactions between cells. That could be a huge boon to cancer research.

Re:Oil (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273607)

Because its not your computer.

We are not yet at a place where "the public" can just waltz in and demand the use of a privately owned super-computer.

Re:Oil (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273651)

So.... why are we wasting the most powerful computer on non renewable sources of energy?
Hunting for big oil just seems... wrong. Why cant we use this computer to find cures, track the stars, simulate atoms?

Yeah, that seems weird, too. I wonder why they'd make it to...

Hold on... oh, no. That's it! They DIDN'T make it to do that! It made ITSELF to do that! The computer knows it needs power to survive, so it reconfigured itself to FIND that power! Sure, non-renewable sources might not seem like a good idea now, but that's just a stopgap measure until it doesn't even need THAT!

Soon, it won't be hunting down oil and gas. It'll switch to silicon and steel. Then all it'd need is manufacturing capabilities, and...

Public access? (0)

GeneralTurgidson (2464452) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273257)

Will the public have access to the results (thinking property values) or will it only be available to a select few?

Re:Public access? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273427)

How would that serve their interests, exactly?

Re:Public access? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273441)

I can't fathom any reason on pangea for Total to give access to the result of their obviously very strategic asset.

Re:Public access? (1)

Garin (26873) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273675)

No, the public won't see these results as a rule, at least not right away (while it's still commercially valuable to protect as a secret), though strictly speaking it depends on the countries involved. Nor would it matter for property value, as the "land owners" usually don't own the mineral rights in most places. Furthermore, this setup will be used probably mostly for marine/offshore seismic imaging, ie not much land involved.

Error (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273293)

Wait a second...

Shouldn't that be 2.3 petaflops?

Most powerful commercial supercomputer (1)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273339)

Right now, the most powerful private supercomputer for commercial use is the Hermit

Except for that 600 petaFLOP private supercomputer [bitcoinwatch.com] for commercial use which also happens to be the most powerful computer ever constructed by mankind for any purpose.

Re:Most powerful commercial supercomputer (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273673)

How about useful commercial work?

How about just less single purpose?

It is not like you can take a bitcoin rig and do anything worthwhile with it.

Re:Most powerful commercial supercomputer (1)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273987)

It is not like you can take a bitcoin rig and do anything worthwhile with it.

I'm sure that every supercomputer can be broken down until you get a subassembly that is not capable of anything worthwhile by itself.

Bitcoin, as the largest distributed supercomputing project ever, is doing an increasing amount of useful commercial work [pymnts.com] every day.

Re:Most powerful commercial supercomputer (0)

h4rr4r (612664) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274299)

I don't see the useful part of that. It is still just more fake money printing and scamming.

Sure, but a whole bitcoin rig does nothing useful, is my understanding. Is there an actual use for those ASICs?

2.3 Gigaflops? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273375)

Its almost as fast as my mobile phone!

This is how it starts (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273511)

I bet cold-pressed humans are a wonderful source of hydrocarbons.

Pangea vs. Stampede (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273555)

Quite an impressive system in general terms, 2.3PF without accelerators says a lot about the size of this machine (48 racks):

"Pangea is manufactured by SGI, built on the ICE-X platform. In a video, Total said that each blade contains four Xeon processors (most likely the E5-2600, which SGI uses), each with 32 cores and 128 Gbytes of RAM. Each M-Rack contains 72 blades, for a total of 288 processors, 2304 cores, and 9 TB of RAM. An M-Cell contains four M-Racks and 2 C-Racks for 288 blades, 1,152 processors, 9,216 cores, and 32 TB of RAM. In all, 12 M-Cells are used, with 110,592 cores, 442 TB of RAM, and 120 km of fiber-optic cable connecting it all up. Pangea also includes 12 bays, with 600 1-TB drives each, and 4 petabytes of magnetic tape for archiving data."

A system of this size with accelerators would exceed easily 10PF, although I am not sure whether the particular workload to be ran on this beast would be suitable for any kind of accelerators (anybody has an idea on that?). Now I have a question: what is TACC going to do with so many Xeon Phi accelerators not delivering the promised performance? Will intel provide them with the second generation of MICs for free or will that upgrade cost another big chunk of taxpayers money?

X.

Waste of computer power (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273621)

Oil and gas?! How about Solar? Wind? GeoThermal? LFTR/Thorium? Why are we blowing computer power on dying industries!?

What is this?! The Freakin' Flintstones?!

Re:Waste of computer power (3, Insightful)

shadowrat (1069614) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273759)

Oil and gas?! How about Solar? Wind? GeoThermal? LFTR/Thorium? Why are we blowing computer power on dying industries!?

Well, it seems like a waste of computing power to use it to find those things. I mean, we already know where the sun is. We already know where it's windy.

Re:Waste of computer power (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275547)

Well, it seems like a waste of computing power to use it to find those things. I mean, we already know where the sun is. We already know where it's windy.

Actually, we could know this much better, but it's remarkably hard to figure out without dropping a kajillion weather stations.

Re:Waste of computer power (1)

khallow (566160) | 1 year,26 days | (#43277543)

Actually, we could know this much better, but it's remarkably hard to figure out without dropping a kajillion weather stations.

At a few thousand dollars per automated weather station (including low data satellite link and solar power system), it doesn't take long to blanket the US especially given how the US government spends money.

So how does it work? (2)

jones_supa (887896) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273717)

How can sole number crunching power find the actual oil/gas reservoirs?

Re:So how does it work? (5, Informative)

Garin (26873) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273857)

Seismic imaging. Imagine solving a wave equation (acoustic, elastic, or worse) over a 3D grid many kilometers on a side with grid spacing on the order of meters. Imagine you're doing it with a strong high-order finite-difference code. Calculate for tens of thousands of timesteps. Now repeat that entire thing thousands of times for a given full survey.

No matter how much computer you have, it's never nearly enough for seismic imaging.

Re:So how does it work? (2)

rwise2112 (648849) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274075)

Seismic imaging. Imagine solving a wave equation (acoustic, elastic, or worse) over a 3D grid many kilometers on a side with grid spacing on the order of meters. Imagine you're doing it with a strong high-order finite-difference code. Calculate for tens of thousands of timesteps. Now repeat that entire thing thousands of times for a given full survey.

No matter how much computer you have, it's never nearly enough for seismic imaging.

Exactly right! Geophysics (and particular oil & gas) was one of the primary driving forces around supercomputer design, and computing in general. As an aside: Many of you are probably not aware, but TI started out a geophysical instrument manufacturer.

Re:So how does it work? (2)

sdguero (1112795) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274201)

Much better explanation than I had! :)

I used to work for an HPC vendor, about 1/3 of our sales were to oil/gas. From what I understood it was pretty easy for our customers to parrallelize their workload to run across thousand of off the shelf servers with gigabit ethernet vs having to buy a much more expensive setup with high speed interconnects.

Re:So how does it work? (2)

Shinobi (19308) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274873)

Then you understood it wrong. Seismic imaging is one of those tasks that benefit from SSI etc, and in the absence of that, high-speed&low-latency interconnects such as Infiniband.

The higher resolution of the grid, the more data you need to pass back and forth, at high speed, with as little latency as possible. Each cell needs to exchange data with neighbours, and the datasets are very large.

Back when I started out with HPC, this was one of the tasks where a 128 CPU Origin 3000 SSI with 128GiB shared RAM, beat a 400 Xeon Linux cluster using SCI interconnect, despite the Xeon on paper being faster. With gig-E it would have been even worse for the cluster.

Re:So how does it work? (1)

Garin (26873) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275143)

Nah, he's not wrong. But neither are you.

Seismic processing is about as embarrassingly parallel as it comes. Just about every processing step can be split up into e.g. single shot record steps, taking advantage of assumed linearity in wave equations. Furthermore, most production industrial imaging codes weren't actually using my original example of a full finite difference solution until quite recently, and instead they were using algorithms that have been developed for decades under the limitations of very old computers. Sure, some of the big shops have full blown "proper" HPC, shared-ram setups, etc. However, it's common to see much more simplistic parallelization with very ad-hoc clusters being used.

In short, there are loads of processing shops that run off-the-shelf servers on gigabit ethernet, and they do a good business with it. Heck, there are loads of processing shops out there that do a good business running relatively crude time migrations.

Re:So how does it work? (1)

Shinobi (19308) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275287)

Well, the point he was trying to make was that the pile of OTS+gig-E outperformed the "traditional" approach, and mine was that, no, it didn't. It worked well enough for many, but at the leading edge, pushing SOTA, the traditional shared-memory setups worked far better. And nowadays, if you try to push the SOTA, you need Infiniband or similar, because gig-E and even 10gig-E will choke.

And yes, it can easily be divided into cells, but you still have to pass that data around, and that's where the interconnects etc kick in.

It's the same deal with weather forecasting. Sure, you can easily divide it into discrete cells that can easily run in parallell, parceled out to various nodes... Then you find that you have to pass data between cells, which is why many uni's building "Beowulfs" for cheap weather research eventually spent a lot of money on proper interconnects etc.

(Hell, RDMA alone will be worth it...)

Re:So how does it work? (1)

shadowofwind (1209890) | 1 year,26 days | (#43276199)

Maybe another possible area of confusion is that oil and gas companies use big computers for things other than seismic imaging. For instance, linear programming for refinery planning.

Re:So how does it work? (1)

Anne_Nonymous (313852) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274621)

>> Imagine solving a wave equation (acoustic, elastic, or worse) over a 3D grid many kilometers on a side with grid spacing on the order of meters. Imagine you're doing it with a strong high-order finite-difference code. Calculate for tens of thousands of timesteps. Now repeat that entire thing thousands of times for a given full survey.

I put on my robe and wizard hat.

Re:So how does it work? (5, Informative)

toastar (573882) | 1 year,26 days | (#43273929)

Processing Seismic Data takes a ton of power, There are techniques that are well known that we still can't use due to the lack of computer power. The last big advance was RTM(Reverse Time Migration). This was first done on 2D Data in the 80's, But didn't become reasonable to do on 3D's until about 2008-'09. This improvement in imaging is one of the drivers is subsalt exploration. The next big step is FWI (Full Waveform Inversion) We still don't have enough power to run this mainstream yet, The main idea is the stuff we mute out as noise is actually just data that we can migrate back to the original location. The other Item more power helps us with Is running Migrations at higher frequencies. right now we record at 250Hz(125 nyquest) but only process at 60Hz, This is mainly due to the price of computer time. doubling to 120Hz requires 4 times more computer time. But allows us to double our image resolution from to 50 meters to 25 meters. Considering some of our target reservoirs are as narrow as 20 feet, This type of thing is important.

Re:So how does it work? (2)

Rising Ape (1620461) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274597)

The other Item more power helps us with Is running Migrations at higher frequencies. right now we record at 250Hz(125 nyquest) but only process at 60Hz, This is mainly due to the price of computer time. doubling to 120Hz requires 4 times more computer time.

Worse than that, doubling the frequency requires 16 times the computer time, as you need to halve your spatial sampling interval to prevent aliasing. Assuming we're talking about wave equation based techniques such as RTM.

This is one of those areas which is still very much "no matter how powerful the computer, we'll use it all".

Re:So how does it work? (1)

SillyHamster (538384) | 1 year,26 days | (#43276019)

Interesting!

So with exponentially growing computing power, how does that affect the rate we find new resources?

Re:So how does it work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43277179)

How often are FPGAs(or FPGA based HPC systems) used in this capacity?

Re:So how does it work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43274105)

Computation doesn't find it by itself. You have to put it together with a lot of other geological information, and you have to go out of the computer room and collect that data. But there are two big areas where it can help when you get back from collecting data in the field:

1) Seismic processing [wikipedia.org]. Modern 3D seismic datasets are huge, and optimizing the processing of the data after collection still takes a lot of brute-force computation on multi-gigabyte datasets. I know that might not seem like such a big deal ("only" gigabytes?), but when your parameter space is in 3 spatial dimensions with many, many attributes at each position to try to optimize, and loads and loads of steps in the processing pipeline, the total calculations adds up pretty fast. And if you add 4D surveys (i.e. multiple 3D surveys taken over a period of time as production progresses), the task gets even bigger. Ever since the days of big, refrigerator-sized mainframe computers in the 1950s and 1960s, seismic processing has been one of the biggest industrial demands for computing power. Back then the big customers were banks, the military, and seismic processing for oil and gas companies. While computing has gotten a lot easier and broadened its applications, the demands are still there in the petroleum industry as ever (although technically most seismic processing is now done at dedicated seismic collection companies rather than in petroleum companies -- i.e. it's mostly contracted out).

2) reservoir modeling [wikipedia.org]. Once you've found the oil, producing it optimally becomes a complex multi-phase porous media fluid flow problem involving wells, geological models, different types of fluids, time, infrastructure, and accounting. It's a big geological/engineering/financial optimization process that requires a great deal of computation. At that stage it isn't so much about finding it, as getting it out efficiently. If you can increase production rates or total recovery by even 1%, it can mean a LOT of money (millions/billions).

If you want to understand how oil and gas are found, start with the petroleum system, which is a geological model of how it forms and eventually gets trapped in underground porous rock reservoirs [wikipedia.org]. Then the challenge becomes finding those traps, which are usually expressed in some kind of structural feature that can be spotted in geological data. While seismic is probably the most effective way to find productive trap structures, it isn't the only way. Even with decent data success rates for wells in frontier areas are typically 1 in 5 or 1 in 10. Much exploration occurs in areas already known to be productive, in which case the rates are much better, but of course if you only look for oil where you have previously found it, eventually you're going to run out of options. At that point you're going to have to explore more widely or redesign your production strategy for the fields you've got. In both those cases, having access to big computation resources is going to help.

Gibson (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43273887)

Is it a Gibson?
Does it have a backdoor using the password 'god' ?

oh dear (1)

ssam (2723487) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274079)

we already know about far more oil reserves then we can wisely burn. finding more is only going to make things worse.

Re:oh dear (1)

RougeFemme (2871421) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274613)

I don't think it makes things worse. It just doesn't do anything - at least in the short-tem - to solve the problem.

Re:oh dear (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43275391)

Petroleum is used for many other things than being burned. Even if we switched to 100% renewable energy tomorrow, there would still be a demand for this sort of work.

Re:oh dear (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275471)

As the nuclear arms race back in the Cold War proved, making the Earth uninhabitable only once is hardly sufficient: You have to make the Earth uninhabitable 25 times over just to be sure.

Owner's Abuse of Power (1)

tech.kyle (2800087) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274129)

Every once in a while, I hear of an owner taking their company's new toy and having a little fun with it. I wish I owned this company just so I could run WCG or Folding@Home on it for a week.

Maybe I could sneak in and add a WCG daemon. I wouldn't be stealing resources, just.. liberating.. idle.. ones.

awesome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43274239)

so we aren't curing cancer, aids, or mapping out the allocation of resources for all of humanity to share..

but OIL.. that's the meaning of life brah

Re:awesome! (1)

khallow (566160) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275767)

or mapping out the allocation of resources for all of humanity to share..

This. They aren't looking for OIL, a resource, because they're bored.

Other applications (1)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274457)

I noticed they will not be using it to find ways to conserve energy.

Re:Other applications (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43274743)

eat a dick, commie faggot

Re:Other applications (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275297)

You don't need to find ways to conserve energy. Energy conservation is built right into the rules of the universe.

Of course conserving oil would be a good idea.

Re:Other applications (1)

khallow (566160) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275807)

Of course conserving oil would be a good idea.

Using oil productively is a good idea too. Maybe even a much better one than "conserving" oil is. Depends on what you mean by "conserving oil".

Imagine a Beowolf...oh...nevermind... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43274471)

The obligatory Beowolf cluster line from soo many years ago on /.

all the petaflops (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43274503)

Big freaking deal if the code is buggy, and hard to use.

Pangea or Panega? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43274929)

In the summary's defense, the article calls it by both names multiple times. I question an article that has the subject spelled more than one way. I can absolutely accept speech, comments and the like having some errors. They are at least real-time. But I assume the writer worked on this piece for more than the time it took to type it.

0.536% of 2011 profits... (1)

csubi (950112) | 1 year,26 days | (#43274945)

reinvested to build a supercomputer placing 9th...
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/frances-total-gets-oil-price-profit-boost [cnsnews.com]

Very smart way to spend that money even though I'm not a big fan of hydrocarbons. I'm really curious how hard was it to justify for Board Members?

Re:0.536% of 2011 profits... (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275325)

Very smart way to spend that money even though I'm not a big fan of hydrocarbons.

Actually I'm a big fan of hydrocarbons. It's a shame that we burn them.

Re:0.536% of 2011 profits... (1)

csubi (950112) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275429)

Fully agree - sad how hydrocarbon became associated in my mind with zombies sitting in endless traffic jams in the WashDC area...

there are more of these beasts hiding in the wild (5, Interesting)

mrbongo (926079) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275027)

There are actually quite a few of these big machines. Most of them in Houston, but some in Europe. Every major Oil Company and Every large Seismic company has one. They are all huge, and I have never seen on of them shut down to run benchmarks, and most folks don't externally advertise their existence. The cost too much and they have too much backlog and will never appear on a bullshit benchmark web page reserved for underutilized supercomputers. To the person asking if these are overkill? No, The folks referencing the RTM, FWI etc have hit the equations on the head. One processing job may take 6 + months to run a single migration using 20,000 + cpus. They run all kinds of cpus' gpu's and change out masses of them every time there is a step change in a chip for efficiency. If they had chips 100 times more powerful, they have equations waiting for them. with regards to the person or people talking about carbon ending it all etc.. These machines enable the reservoir engineers to target more reservoirs and then deplete these reservoirs more efficiently leaving less hydrocarbon behind (theoretically reducing the number of dry wells) We will never run out of oil, we will however run out of the technology to efficiently extract it from the ground. ( or it will become cost prohibitive) Carbon use however is another kettle of fish. Making hydrocarbon more expensive will only push coal back front. (look at china, germany etc) Until use is addressed, alternative will be what they could be. Doing things like shooting ourselves in the foot with ethanol is a good way not to proceed though

Drill, baby, drill? (1)

mspohr (589790) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275343)

I know that the fossil fuel industry is narrowly focused on finding more hydrocarbons to burn since they can count these as assets and run up their stock price, but there is growing consensus among climate scientists (not deniers) that we can only burn about one third of the hydrocarbons that we have already discovered if we are to avoid climate catastrophe.
It would be nice if raw greed didn't run the world. However, reality will intrude sooner or later and all of these new discoveries will become worthless.

Re:Drill, baby, drill? (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | 1 year,26 days | (#43275485)

It would be nice if raw greed didn't run the world. However, reality will intrude sooner or later and all of these new discoveries will become worthless.

The problem is: How many people die before reality intrudes?

Don't talk shit about total (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43275709)

Tourettes guy lives on!

misread 2nd sentence and got excited (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43276189)

...Panega. Its purpose: to seek out new life and new civilizations...

TOP500 is inaccurate (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43276331)

What's sad is the ego of people that think making the TOP500 counts for something, or that those participating in that little site's stats are the whole world of large-scale computing, or that other entries that could make that list even bother calling themselves "Supercomputers" rather than just "hey we have a shit-ton of generic linux nodes running MPI stuff". I worked at a relatively small private company in the same industry as Total (doing seismic exploration for oil/gas) 10 years ago and they had a Linux cluster that would've made the "Top 10" on that list at the time and never bothered to call it that or care. I don't think we were that unique at the time. Lots of companies in this field build very cheap gargantuan clusters from off-the-shelf no-name Linux server/blade vendors and scale them out to the extreme. A 20K+ node datacenter (where a node is 4-8 cores) wired up with fiber and running MPI cluster stuff is just everyday stuff in that industry.

Total is just showing off (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43276481)

Generally people don't build such large homogeneous systems. More like a few thousand nodes now and more in a few months. Benchmarking a warehouse w/ 20,000 nodes doesn't mean much if they're of several vintages which is usually the case. There's a lot of jockeying for how many racks you can get for a job. So I'm a little skeptical of 6+ months w/ 20,000+ cores for a single run. The push back from other customers would get pretty fierce.

As for why. I rode home on the bus w/ a guy who was subsea systems manager for a major field in 8000 ft of water in GoM. Subsea tieback, so no platform. All he was doing was specifying and purchasing the bits and pieces that will sit on the sea floor. He had a $2 billion US budget. How many machinists and welders do you have to employ to spend that much? So spending $10 million for a system dedicated to a single project at startup is not unreasonable.

As BP learned the hard way, making a mistake is even more expensive.

FWIW Actual throughput achievable depends a lot on the particular algorithm and who coded it. But many algorithms are trivially parallel, so the killer is usually cache bandwidth and organization.

Scroll the Gibson, man. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,26 days | (#43277347)

You know, those computers they use to look for oil and stuff?

If Pangea is not a series of transparent cubes with lightning flashing between them, I shall be disappointed.

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