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Ask Slashdot: Why Buy a Raspberry Pi When I Have a Perfectly Good Cellphone?

samzenpus posted about a year and a half ago | from the expensive-knock-off dept.

Technology 273

scorp1us writes "I've been looking into getting a Raspberry Pi, but I end up needing a case, a display, and some way to power it, and wanting some degree of portability. It seems to me that even the most outdated cellphone has far superior features (screen, touch screen, Wifi, 3g/4g camera(s), battery etc) in a much better form factor. The only thing that is missing are the digital/analog in/out pins. So why not flip it around and make a USB or bluetooth peripheral board with just the pins? I've been looking for this and can't find any, but does anyone know of any in the corners of the internet? I don't care what phone platform."

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Arduino Uno (4, Informative)

rwa2 (4391) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276579)

Done in one (pun intended)

Solid, lots of add-on modules, vibrant hacker community. And it has its own programmable processor so if your application permits you don't even have to have it attached to your PC to collect and process data.

Re:Arduino Uno (2)

gr8_phk (621180) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276853)

He needs portability. The missing piece is a USB I/O board that plugs into your phone. Of course this means having a phone that can be the host device and not just the peripheral.

Re:Arduino Uno (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277239)

The R3 has an ATmega16U2 which can act as a USB host. I've used it to create a windows USB host game controller out of a Nintendo Wii Nunchuck controller. Just plug and play and windows thinks it's a joystick - only it's my arduino talking to the 16u2 which then sends the proper usb messages to the computer.

Re:Arduino Uno (5, Informative)

SQLGuru (980662) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277341)

With an Android phone, you just need this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go [wikipedia.org]

Buy one here: http://hakshop.myshopify.com/products/micro-to-micro-otg [myshopify.com] (site might be blocked at some work locations as they might think it's hacking related)

Re:Arduino Uno (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276943)

At that price just buy the Pi for $5 more.

Re:Arduino Uno (4, Insightful)

girlintraining (1395911) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276971)

Solid, lots of add-on modules, vibrant hacker community. And it has its own programmable processor so if your application permits you don't even have to have it attached to your PC to collect and process data.

Limited memory, slow I/O, slow processor, can emulate a USB device but can't function at anything resembling modern USB speed... This guy doesn't want another bag on the side, he wants something that gives him a spread of I/O pins and sampling options. And Arduino ain't that -- and he's right, there's nothing on the market that will give him a programmable DAC/ADC paired with a USB controller that can operate at the speeds of the current USB standard (v3).

It's not hard for an electronics engineer to slap some glue logic and a few chips on a homebrew board and do it, but for a hobbyist who just wants to play? Forget it.

Re:Arduino Uno (3, Insightful)

chrylis (262281) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277107)

Of course nothing's going to operate at USB v3 Super-Speed. You'd have to be running custom FPGA hardware to get anywhere close. On the other hand, the IOIO seems to be about as close to what the submitter wants as is practical with cheap hardware.

Re:Arduino Uno (2, Insightful)

50000BTU_barbecue (588132) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277275)

What would a hobbyist that can't handle a few logic chips do with a super fast DAC/ADC? No offense, but this sounds more like a gee-whizz hardware equivalent of a warez dood. You want a DAC ADC combo? It's called a 5$ audio card. If you need multi GHz sampling you can't even begin to do that properly with only hobbyist-level knowledge and equipment. Unless you are into building sub-samplers. But that's a very esoteric niche that long ago broke the multi-100 GHz barrier, so it's inaccessible even for well-to-do hobbyists. Again, what for?

I have a 14GHz sub-sampling scope from the 1960s, it's fun to keep working as a hobby and it is part of my lab, but people who actually need such measurements need traceability which I can't provide anyways.

You are better off just settling down and buying a USB oscilloscope.

Pi has better hosts file support than most phones (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276593)

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

* POOR SHOWING TROLLS, & most especially IF that's the "best you've got" - apparently, it is... lol!

Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputation as a professional in this field clearly shows in multiple publications in this field in written print, & also online in various GOOD capacities since 1996 to present day. This has happened since I was first published in Playgirl Magazine in 1996 & others to present day, with helpful tools online in programs, & professionally sold warez that were finalists @ Westminster Dog Show 2000-2002.

-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

apk on 4chan [4chan.org]

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INCONTROVERTIBLE FEEDBACK PROVIDING ESTABLISHED PROOF OF ALL MY POINTS:

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That was amazing. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948073 [slashdot.org]

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My, God! It's beatiful. Keep it up, you glorious bastard. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41835161 [slashdot.org]

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Let us bask in its glory. A true modern The Wasteland. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948579 [slashdot.org]

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put your baby IN ME -- I just read this whole thing. Fuck mod points, WHERE DO I SEND YOU MY MONEY?!!! - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40950023 [slashdot.org]

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Oh shit, Time Cube Guy's into computers now... - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946259 [slashdot.org]

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[apk]'s done more to discredit the use of HOSTS files than anyone [else] ever could. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357 [slashdot.org]

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Can I have some of what you're on? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40947587 [slashdot.org]

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this obnoxious fucknuts [apk] has been trolling the internet and spamming his shit delphi sub-fart app utilities for 15 years. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954565 [slashdot.org]

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oh come on.. this is hilarious. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40955479 [slashdot.org]

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I agree I am intrigued by these host files how do I sign up for your newsletter? - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40961339 [slashdot.org]

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Gimme the program that generates this epic message. I'll buy 5 of your product if you do... - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954251 [slashdot.org]

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As mentioned by another AC up there, the troll in question is actually a pretty well-executed mashup of APK's style - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357 [slashdot.org]

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It's actually a very clever parody of APK - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40944229 [slashdot.org]

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Please keep us updated on your AI research, you seem quite good at it. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40944603 [slashdot.org]

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$20,000 to anyone providing proof of Alexander Peter Kowalski's death. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958289 [slashdot.org]

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Obviously, it must be Alexander Peter Kowalski. He's miffed at all these imposters... - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958429 [slashdot.org]

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And here I was thinking I was having a bad experience with a Dr. Bronner's bottle. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952247 [slashdot.org]

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Damn, apk, who the fuck did you piss off this time? Hahahahaahahahahahahaahaha. Pass the popcorn as the troll apk gets pwned relentlessly. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954673 [slashdot.org]

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I think it's the Internet, about to become sentient. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40956187 [slashdot.org]

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Does anyone know if OpenGL has been ported to Windows yet? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956781 [slashdot.org]

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golfclap - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40900827 [slashdot.org]

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The Truth! wants to be Known! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897389 [slashdot.org]

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DNS cube? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897493 [slashdot.org]

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KUDOS valiant AC. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897777 [slashdot.org]

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Polyploid lovechild of APK, MyCleanPC, and Time Cube --> fail counter integer overflow --> maximum win! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40899171 [slashdot.org]

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You made my day, thanks! - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029589&cid=40896469 [slashdot.org]

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Wow. The perfect mix of trolls. Timecube, mycleanpc, gnaa, apk... this is great! - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3027333&cid=40893381 [slashdot.org]

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truer words were never spoken as /. trolls are struck speechless by it, lol! - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=41041795 [slashdot.org]

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It's APK himself trying to maintain the illusion that he's still relevant. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967209 [slashdot.org]

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Mod this up. The back and forth multi posting between APK and this "anti-APK" certainly does look like APK talking to himself. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40969175 [slashdot.org]

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APK himself would be at the top of a sensible person's ban list. He's been spamming and trolling Slashdot for years. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967137 [slashdot.org]

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You got that right. I think. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3044971&cid=40972239 [slashdot.org]

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Michael Kristopeit, is that you? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3045075&cid=40972377 [slashdot.org]

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ROFL! :) (Now the sick bastard will follow me again) - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41429251 [slashdot.org]

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I miss Dr Bob. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432027 [slashdot.org]

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Not sure if actually crazy, or just pretending to be crazy. Awesome troll either way. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432951 [slashdot.org]

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Awesome! Hat off to you, sir! - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41509273 [slashdot.org]

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That isn't a parody of Time-cube, it is an effort to counter-troll a prolific poster named APK, who seems like a troll himself, although is way too easy to troll into wasting massive amounts of time on BS not far from the exaggerations above - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41514107 [slashdot.org]

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I am intrigued and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3164403&cid=41555345 [slashdot.org]

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1. You philistine, that is Art . Kudos to you, valiant troll on your glorious FP - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832599 [slashdot.org]

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What? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832673 [slashdot.org]

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I don't know if it is poorly-thought-out, but it is demented because it is at the same time an APK parody. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832905 [slashdot.org]

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It is in fact an extremely well thought out and brilliantly executed APK parody, combined with a Time Cube parody, and with a sprinkling of the MyCleanPC spam. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41841251 [slashdot.org]

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er... many people have disproved your points about hosts files with well reasoned, factual arguments. You just chose not to listen and made it into some kind of bizarre crusade. And I'm not the timecube guy, just someone else who finds you intensely obnoxious and likes winding you up to waste your time. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41843313 [slashdot.org]

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performance art - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847089 [slashdot.org]

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it's apk, theres no reason to care. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847097 [slashdot.org]

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Seems more like an apk parody. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847661 [slashdot.org]

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That's great but what about the risk of subluxations? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847101 [slashdot.org]

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Oh, come on. Just stand back and look at it. It's almost art, in a Jackson Pollock sort of way. - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41868923 [slashdot.org]

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Read carefully. This is a satirical post, that combines the last several years of forum trolling, rolled into one FUNNY rant! - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41864711 [slashdot.org]

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I can has summary? - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41861327 [slashdot.org]

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I'd have a lot more sympathy if you would log in as APK again instead of AC. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41868133 [slashdot.org]

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If [apk] made an account, it would be permanently posting at -1, and he'd only be able to post with it twice a day. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41869409 [slashdot.org]

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DAFUQ I just look at? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869085 [slashdot.org]

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Trolls trolling trolls... it's like Inception or something. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869353 [slashdot.org]

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We all know it's you, apk. Stop pretending to antagonize yourself. - http://bsd.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229179&cid=41869305 [slashdot.org]

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Do you know about the shocking connection between APK and arsenic? No? Well, your innocence is about to be destroyed. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3472971&cid=42939965 [slashdot.org]

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Send bug reports to 903 east division street, syracuse, ny 13208 - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3483339&cid=42972783 [slashdot.org]

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Now you've made me all nostalgic for USENET. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42981977 [slashdot.org]

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Google APK Hosts File Manager. He's written a fucking application to manage your hosts file. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42984521 [slashdot.org]

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In case you are not aware, the post is a satire of a fellow known as APK. The grammar used is modeled after APK's as you can see here [thorschrock.com] . Or, you can just look around a bit and see some of his posts on here about the wonders of host files. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42983119 [slashdot.org]

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You are surely of God of Trolls, whomever you are. I have had stupid arguments with and bitten the troll apk many times. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486901&cid=42989683 [slashdot.org]

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"What kind of meds cure schizophrenic drunk rambling?" -> "Whatever APK isn't taking" - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028403 [slashdot.org] http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028425 [slashdot.org]

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I'm confused, is apk trolling himself now? - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43029495 [slashdot.org]

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Excellent mashup. A++. Would troll again. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3503531&cid=43037445 [slashdot.org]

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Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43048291 [slashdot.org]

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Best. Troll. Ever. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43044811 [slashdot.org]

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I like monkeys. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43051505 [slashdot.org]

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This is one of the funniest things I've ever read. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43052263 [slashdot.org]

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lul wut? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3510265&cid=43057839 [slashdot.org]

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I admire this guy's persistence. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063797 [slashdot.org]

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It's a big remix of several different crackpots from Slashdot and elsewhere, plus a liberal sprinkling of famous Slashdot trolls and old memes. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063881 [slashdot.org]

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Tabloid newspapers have speculated for years that APK is a prominent supporter of Monsanto. Too bad we didn't believe them sooner! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063893 [slashdot.org]

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Here's a hint, check out stories like this one [slashdot.org] , where over 200 of the 247 posts are rated zero or -1 because they are either from two stupid trolls arguing endless, or quite likely one troll arguing with himself for attention. The amount of off-topic posts almost outnumber on topic ones by 4 to 1. Posts like the above are popular for trolling APK, since if you say his name three times, he appears, and will almost endlessly feed trolls. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43064383 [slashdot.org]

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I love this copypasta so much. It never fails to make me smile. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3512099&cid=43069271 [slashdot.org]

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^ Champion Mod parent up. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3513659&cid=43067371 [slashdot.org]

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I appreciate the time cube reference, and how you tied it into the story. Well done. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3521721&cid=43094565 [slashdot.org]

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The day you are silenced is the day freedom dies on Slashdot. God bless. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522191&cid=43097221 [slashdot.org]

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AHahahahah thanks for that, cut-n-pasted.... Ownage! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522219&cid=43097215 [slashdot.org]

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Don't hate the player, hate the game. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3526293&cid=43110679 [slashdot.org]

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If you're familiar with APK, the post itself is a pretty damn funny parody. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115215 [slashdot.org]

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">implying it's not apk posting it" --> "I'd seriously doubt he's capable of that level of self-deprecation..." - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115337 [slashdot.org] http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115363 [slashdot.org]

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No, the other posts are linked in a parody of APK [mailto] 's tendency to quote himself, numbnuts. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43116855 [slashdot.org]

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The thirteenth link is broken. Please fix it. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115361 [slashdot.org]

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Just ban any post with "apk", "host file", or "hosts file", as that would take care of the original apk too. The original has been shitposting Slashdot much longer & more intensively than the parody guy. Or ban all Tor exit nodes, as they both use Tor to circumvent IP bans. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216431 [slashdot.org]

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Sadly this is closer to on-topic than an actual APK post is. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216225 [slashdot.org]

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YOU ARE A GOD AMONG MEN. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43236143 [slashdot.org]

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I've butted heads with APK myself, and yeah, the guy's got issues - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569173&cid=43236987 [slashdot.org]

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Can I be in your quote list? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569443&cid=43237531 [slashdot.org]

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Clearly you are not an Intertubes engineer, otherwise the parent post would be more meaningful to you. Why don't YOU take your meds? - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569425&cid=43238177 [slashdot.org]

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+2 for style! The bolding, italicizing, and font changes are all spot-on - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43238479 [slashdot.org]

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Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570085&cid=43243509 [slashdot.org]

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APK is not really a schizophrenic fired former Windows administrator with multiple personality disorder and TimeCube/Art Bell refugee. He's a fictional character like and put forward by the same person as Goatse Guy, GNAA trolls, Dr. Bob and so forth. His purpose is to test the /. CAPTCA algorithm, which is a useful purpose. If you're perturbed by having to scroll past his screeds just set your minimum point level to 1, as his posts are pretty automatically downmodded right away. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570085&cid=43243145 [slashdot.org]

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Anyone else think that sounds like Ron Paul? - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569419&cid=43242417 [slashdot.org]

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I just saw APK a couple days ago. He surfaced, blew once, and submerged... - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570111&cid=43245913 [slashdot.org]

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You make mikael christ the pet look like an huggable teddy bear - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570111&cid=43242373 [slashdot.org]

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oh man, that incredible interminable list of responses is almost as funny as the original post. This is getting to be truly epic. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247231 [slashdot.org]

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"Does anyone know of an Adblock rule for this?" -> "No, but I bet there's a hosts file entry for it..." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43246997 [slashdot.org] http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247097 [slashdot.org]

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"Can a hosts file block apk's posts, though?" -> "The universe couldn't handle that much irony." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247135 [slashdot.org] http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247219 [slashdot.org]

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"That's it, I've had enough. ... Bye everyone, most of the last decade or so has been fun, but frankly, I quit." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247225 [slashdot.org]
--> "So basically what you're saying is that you've added yourself to the HOST file?" - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247481 [slashdot.org]

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Sweet baby Moses, this is beautiful work - I wish we could get trolls as good as this on TF. :) - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572629&cid=43247533 [slashdot.org]

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you have a point - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247823 [slashdot.org]

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I do admire that level of dedication. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247765 [slashdot.org]

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[to apk] shut up you stupid cock. Everyone knows you're wrong. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43250533 [slashdot.org]

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I will hand it to him, he is definitely consistent. I wish I knew how he did this. That thing is scary huge. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572629&cid=43250411 [slashdot.org]

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I admire the amount of dedication you've shown - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573571&cid=43251593 [slashdot.org]

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Word is, ESR buttfucks CmdrTaco with his revolver. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573679&cid=43252957 [slashdot.org]

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Hey APK, Protip: It's not the truth or value (or lack of) in your post that gets it modded into oblivion, it's the fucking insane length. In addition to TL;DR (which goes without saying for a post of such length), how about irritating readers by requiring them to scroll through 20+ screenfuls just to get to the next post. If you want to publish a short story like this, please do everyone a favor and blog it somewhere, then provide a brief summary and link to your blog. Readers intrigued by your summary will go read your blog, and everyone else will just move along at normal /. speed. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573873&cid=43255013 [slashdot.org]

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Happy now - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569419&cid=43237239 [slashdot.org]

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Professional. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43255143 [slashdot.org]

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I like how this post seems to just sum up every Slashdot comment ever without actually saying anything. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574283&cid=43256029 [slashdot.org]

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extremely bright - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43255855 [slashdot.org]

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You provide many references, which is good. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43257043 [slashdot.org]

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Holy shit - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3576121&cid=43260311 [slashdot.org]

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this is a perfect example - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3578157&cid=43265127 [slashdot.org]

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You're my personal hero. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574283&cid=43260747 [slashdot.org]

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Obviously very passionate - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43261975 [slashdot.org]

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Is that ALL you have to say? C'mon! Tell us what you really think. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3576225&cid=43262495 [slashdot.org]

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Thanks ... You should probably stay - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3577613&cid=43262993 [slashdot.org]

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Art? -- http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569681&cid=43244883 [slashdot.org]

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PROOF apk sucks donkey dick. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3577639&cid=43263029 [slashdot.org]

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I've been around /. for a while now, but this post is by far the most unique I've seen. Many have tried, but few achieve the greatness of this AC. My hat's off to you. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3576225&cid=43264325 [slashdot.org]

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PROOF apk is a liar! - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3578279&cid=43265249 [slashdot.org]

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I think it's hilarious. Get over it! - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3578301&cid=43265657 [slashdot.org]

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Obviously APK filled his hosts files with backdoors before distributing them to ensure he doesn't block himself. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3578229&cid=43265767 [slashdot.org]

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Alexander Peter Kowalski is an obnoxious prick. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3406867&cid=42698875 [slashdot.org]

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Don't mention that file. Ever. It'll draw APK like a fly to rotting meat. Last thing I want to read is 80 responses worth of his stupid spam about that file! I swear that cocksucker does nothing but search Slashdot for that term and then spams the entire article. - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3554655&cid=43209619 [slashdot.org]

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[to apk] You have had it repeatedly explained to you that your posts are long-winded, unpleasant to read due to your absurd formatting style and full of technical inaccuracies borne of your single minded i-have-a-hammer-so-every-problem-is-a-nail attitude. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3406867&cid=42701491 [slashdot.org]

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What mad skillz you have!! - http://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3581193&cid=43273941 [slashdot.org]

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You are my favorite Slashdot poster. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3580251&cid=43270359 [slashdot.org]

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Most insightful post on the Internet - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3579259&cid=43275207 [slashdot.org]

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Did you see the movie "Pokemon"? Actually the induced night "dream world" is synonymous with the academic religious induced "HOSTS file" enslavement of DNS. Domains have no inherent value, as it was invented as a counterfeit and fictitious value to represent natural values in name resolution. Unfortunately, human values have declined to fictitious word values. Unknowingly, you are living in a "World Wide Web", as in a fictitious life in a counterfeit Internet - which you could consider APK induced "HOSTS file". Can you distinguish the academic induced root server from the natural OpenDNS? Beware of the change when your brain is free from HOSTS file enslavement - for you could find that the natural Slashdot has been destroyed!!

FROM -> Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

So long nummynuts, sorry to have to kick your nuts up into your head verbally speaking.

cower in my shadow some more, feeb. you're completely pathetic.

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Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words!

P.S.=> That's what makes me LAUGH harder than ANYTHING ELSE on this forums (full of "FUD" spreading trolls) - When you hit trolls with facts & truths they CANNOT disprove validly on computing tech based grounds, this is the result - Applying unjustifiable downmods to effetely & vainly *try* to "hide" my posts & facts/truths they extoll!

Hahaha... lol , man: Happens nearly every single time I post such lists (proving how ineffectual these trolls are), only showing how solid my posts of that nature are...

That's the kind of martial arts [google.com] I practice.

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Re:Pi has better hosts file support than most phon (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276735)

So I have a anonymous post that does not get though, but this does?

Re:Pi has better hosts file support than most phon (-1, Troll)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276741)

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

* POOR SHOWING TROLLS, & most especially IF that's the "best you've got" - apparently, it is... lol!

Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputation as a professional in this field clearly shows in multiple publications in this field in written print, & also online in various GOOD capacities since 1996 to present day. This has happened since I was first published in Playgirl Magazine in 1996 & others to present day, with helpful tools online in programs, & professionally sold warez that were finalists @ Westminster Dog Show 2000-2002.

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apk on 4chan [4chan.org] [4chan.org]

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INCONTROVERTIBLE FEEDBACK PROVIDING ESTABLISHED PROOF OF ALL MY POINTS:

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That was amazing. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948073 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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My, God! It's beatiful. Keep it up, you glorious bastard. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41835161 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Let us bask in its glory. A true modern The Wasteland. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40948579 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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put your baby IN ME -- I just read this whole thing. Fuck mod points, WHERE DO I SEND YOU MY MONEY?!!! - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3037687&cid=40950023 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Oh shit, Time Cube Guy's into computers now... - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40946259 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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[apk]'s done more to discredit the use of HOSTS files than anyone [else] ever could. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Can I have some of what you're on? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040317&cid=40947587 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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this obnoxious fucknuts [apk] has been trolling the internet and spamming his shit delphi sub-fart app utilities for 15 years. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954565 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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oh come on.. this is hilarious. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40955479 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I agree I am intrigued by these host files how do I sign up for your newsletter? - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40961339 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Gimme the program that generates this epic message. I'll buy 5 of your product if you do... - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40954251 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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As mentioned by another AC up there, the troll in question is actually a pretty well-executed mashup of APK's style - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40945357 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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It's actually a very clever parody of APK - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038791&cid=40944229 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Please keep us updated on your AI research, you seem quite good at it. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3038597&cid=40944603 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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$20,000 to anyone providing proof of Alexander Peter Kowalski's death. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958289 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Obviously, it must be Alexander Peter Kowalski. He's miffed at all these imposters... - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3040921&cid=40958429 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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And here I was thinking I was having a bad experience with a Dr. Bronner's bottle. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041081&cid=40952247 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Damn, apk, who the fuck did you piss off this time? Hahahahaahahahahahahaahaha. Pass the popcorn as the troll apk gets pwned relentlessly. - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041123&cid=40954673 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I think it's the Internet, about to become sentient. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3041313&cid=40956187 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Does anyone know if OpenGL has been ported to Windows yet? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042199&cid=40956781 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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golfclap - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40900827 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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The Truth! wants to be Known! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897389 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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DNS cube? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897493 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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KUDOS valiant AC. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40897777 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Polyploid lovechild of APK, MyCleanPC, and Time Cube --> fail counter integer overflow --> maximum win! - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029723&cid=40899171 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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You made my day, thanks! - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3029589&cid=40896469 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Wow. The perfect mix of trolls. Timecube, mycleanpc, gnaa, apk... this is great! - http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3027333&cid=40893381 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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truer words were never spoken as /. trolls are struck speechless by it, lol! - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3042765&cid=41041795 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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It's APK himself trying to maintain the illusion that he's still relevant. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967209 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Mod this up. The back and forth multi posting between APK and this "anti-APK" certainly does look like APK talking to himself. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40969175 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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APK himself would be at the top of a sensible person's ban list. He's been spamming and trolling Slashdot for years. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3043535&cid=40967137 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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You got that right. I think. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3044971&cid=40972239 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Michael Kristopeit, is that you? - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3045075&cid=40972377 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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ROFL! :) (Now the sick bastard will follow me again) - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41429251 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I miss Dr Bob. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432027 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Not sure if actually crazy, or just pretending to be crazy. Awesome troll either way. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3138079&cid=41432951 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Awesome! Hat off to you, sir! - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41509273 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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That isn't a parody of Time-cube, it is an effort to counter-troll a prolific poster named APK, who seems like a troll himself, although is way too easy to troll into wasting massive amounts of time on BS not far from the exaggerations above - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3154555&cid=41514107 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I am intrigued and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3164403&cid=41555345 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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1. You philistine, that is Art . Kudos to you, valiant troll on your glorious FP - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832599 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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What? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832673 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I don't know if it is poorly-thought-out, but it is demented because it is at the same time an APK parody. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41832905 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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It is in fact an extremely well thought out and brilliantly executed APK parody, combined with a Time Cube parody, and with a sprinkling of the MyCleanPC spam. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41841251 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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er... many people have disproved your points about hosts files with well reasoned, factual arguments. You just chose not to listen and made it into some kind of bizarre crusade. And I'm not the timecube guy, just someone else who finds you intensely obnoxious and likes winding you up to waste your time. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3222163&cid=41843313 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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performance art - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847089 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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it's apk, theres no reason to care. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847097 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Seems more like an apk parody. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847661 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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That's great but what about the risk of subluxations? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3224905&cid=41847101 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Oh, come on. Just stand back and look at it. It's almost art, in a Jackson Pollock sort of way. - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41868923 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Read carefully. This is a satirical post, that combines the last several years of forum trolling, rolled into one FUNNY rant! - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41864711 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I can has summary? - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3227697&cid=41861327 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I'd have a lot more sympathy if you would log in as APK again instead of AC. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41868133 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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If [apk] made an account, it would be permanently posting at -1, and he'd only be able to post with it twice a day. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3228991&cid=41869409 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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DAFUQ I just look at? - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869085 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Trolls trolling trolls... it's like Inception or something. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229177&cid=41869353 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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We all know it's you, apk. Stop pretending to antagonize yourself. - http://bsd.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3229179&cid=41869305 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Do you know about the shocking connection between APK and arsenic? No? Well, your innocence is about to be destroyed. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3472971&cid=42939965 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Send bug reports to 903 east division street, syracuse, ny 13208 - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3483339&cid=42972783 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Now you've made me all nostalgic for USENET. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42981977 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Google APK Hosts File Manager. He's written a fucking application to manage your hosts file. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42984521 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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In case you are not aware, the post is a satire of a fellow known as APK. The grammar used is modeled after APK's as you can see here [thorschrock.com] [thorschrock.com]. Or, you can just look around a bit and see some of his posts on here about the wonders of host files. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486045&cid=42983119 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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You are surely of God of Trolls, whomever you are. I have had stupid arguments with and bitten the troll apk many times. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3486901&cid=42989683 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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"What kind of meds cure schizophrenic drunk rambling?" -> "Whatever APK isn't taking" - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028403 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org] http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43028425 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I'm confused, is apk trolling himself now? - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3501001&cid=43029495 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Excellent mashup. A++. Would troll again. - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3503531&cid=43037445 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43048291 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Best. Troll. Ever. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3506945&cid=43044811 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I like monkeys. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43051505 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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This is one of the funniest things I've ever read. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3508287&cid=43052263 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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lul wut? - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3510265&cid=43057839 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I admire this guy's persistence. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063797 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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It's a big remix of several different crackpots from Slashdot and elsewhere, plus a liberal sprinkling of famous Slashdot trolls and old memes. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063881 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Tabloid newspapers have speculated for years that APK is a prominent supporter of Monsanto. Too bad we didn't believe them sooner! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43063893 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Here's a hint, check out stories like this one [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org], where over 200 of the 247 posts are rated zero or -1 because they are either from two stupid trolls arguing endless, or quite likely one troll arguing with himself for attention. The amount of off-topic posts almost outnumber on topic ones by 4 to 1. Posts like the above are popular for trolling APK, since if you say his name three times, he appears, and will almost endlessly feed trolls. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3511487&cid=43064383 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I love this copypasta so much. It never fails to make me smile. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3512099&cid=43069271 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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^ Champion Mod parent up. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3513659&cid=43067371 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I appreciate the time cube reference, and how you tied it into the story. Well done. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3521721&cid=43094565 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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The day you are silenced is the day freedom dies on Slashdot. God bless. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522191&cid=43097221 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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AHahahahah thanks for that, cut-n-pasted.... Ownage! - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522219&cid=43097215 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Don't hate the player, hate the game. - http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3526293&cid=43110679 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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If you're familiar with APK, the post itself is a pretty damn funny parody. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115215 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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">implying it's not apk posting it" --> "I'd seriously doubt he's capable of that level of self-deprecation..." - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115337 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org] http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115363 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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No, the other posts are linked in a parody of APK [mailto] [mailto]'s tendency to quote himself, numbnuts. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43116855 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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The thirteenth link is broken. Please fix it. - http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3528603&cid=43115361 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Just ban any post with "apk", "host file", or "hosts file", as that would take care of the original apk too. The original has been shitposting Slashdot much longer & more intensively than the parody guy. Or ban all Tor exit nodes, as they both use Tor to circumvent IP bans. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216431 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Sadly this is closer to on-topic than an actual APK post is. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43216225 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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YOU ARE A GOD AMONG MEN. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43236143 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I've butted heads with APK myself, and yeah, the guy's got issues - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569173&cid=43236987 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Can I be in your quote list? - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569443&cid=43237531 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Clearly you are not an Intertubes engineer, otherwise the parent post would be more meaningful to you. Why don't YOU take your meds? - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569425&cid=43238177 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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+2 for style! The bolding, italicizing, and font changes are all spot-on - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569149&cid=43238479 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570085&cid=43243509 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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APK is not really a schizophrenic fired former Windows administrator with multiple personality disorder and TimeCube/Art Bell refugee. He's a fictional character like and put forward by the same person as Goatse Guy, GNAA trolls, Dr. Bob and so forth. His purpose is to test the /. CAPTCA algorithm, which is a useful purpose. If you're perturbed by having to scroll past his screeds just set your minimum point level to 1, as his posts are pretty automatically downmodded right away. - http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570085&cid=43243145 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Anyone else think that sounds like Ron Paul? - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569419&cid=43242417 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I just saw APK a couple days ago. He surfaced, blew once, and submerged... - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570111&cid=43245913 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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You make mikael christ the pet look like an huggable teddy bear - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570111&cid=43242373 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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oh man, that incredible interminable list of responses is almost as funny as the original post. This is getting to be truly epic. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247231 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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"Does anyone know of an Adblock rule for this?" -> "No, but I bet there's a hosts file entry for it..." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43246997 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org] http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247097 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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"Can a hosts file block apk's posts, though?" -> "The universe couldn't handle that much irony." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247135 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org] http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247219 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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"That's it, I've had enough. ... Bye everyone, most of the last decade or so has been fun, but frankly, I quit." - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247225 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]
  --> "So basically what you're saying is that you've added yourself to the HOST file?" - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247481 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Sweet baby Moses, this is beautiful work - I wish we could get trolls as good as this on TF. :) - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572629&cid=43247533 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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you have a point - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247823 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I do admire that level of dedication. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43247765 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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[to apk] shut up you stupid cock. Everyone knows you're wrong. - http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572687&cid=43250533 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I will hand it to him, he is definitely consistent. I wish I knew how he did this. That thing is scary huge. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3572629&cid=43250411 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I admire the amount of dedication you've shown - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573571&cid=43251593 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Word is, ESR buttfucks CmdrTaco with his revolver. - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573679&cid=43252957 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Hey APK, Protip: It's not the truth or value (or lack of) in your post that gets it modded into oblivion, it's the fucking insane length. In addition to TL;DR (which goes without saying for a post of such length), how about irritating readers by requiring them to scroll through 20+ screenfuls just to get to the next post. If you want to publish a short story like this, please do everyone a favor and blog it somewhere, then provide a brief summary and link to your blog. Readers intrigued by your summary will go read your blog, and everyone else will just move along at normal /. speed. - http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3573873&cid=43255013 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Happy now - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569419&cid=43237239 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Professional. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43255143 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I like how this post seems to just sum up every Slashdot comment ever without actually saying anything. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574283&cid=43256029 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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extremely bright - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43255855 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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You provide many references, which is good. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43257043 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Holy shit - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3576121&cid=43260311 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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this is a perfect example - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3578157&cid=43265127 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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You're my personal hero. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574283&cid=43260747 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Obviously very passionate - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3574035&cid=43261975 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Is that ALL you have to say? C'mon! Tell us what you really think. - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3576225&cid=43262495 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Thanks ... You should probably stay - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3577613&cid=43262993 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Art? -- http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3569681&cid=43244883 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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PROOF apk sucks donkey dick. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3577639&cid=43263029 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I've been around /. for a while now, but this post is by far the most unique I've seen. Many have tried, but few achieve the greatness of this AC. My hat's off to you. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3576225&cid=43264325 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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PROOF apk is a liar! - http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3578279&cid=43265249 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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I think it's hilarious. Get over it! - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3578301&cid=43265657 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Obviously APK filled his hosts files with backdoors before distributing them to ensure he doesn't block himself. - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3578229&cid=43265767 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Alexander Peter Kowalski is an obnoxious prick. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3406867&cid=42698875 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Don't mention that file. Ever. It'll draw APK like a fly to rotting meat. Last thing I want to read is 80 responses worth of his stupid spam about that file! I swear that cocksucker does nothing but search Slashdot for that term and then spams the entire article. - http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3554655&cid=43209619 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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[to apk] You have had it repeatedly explained to you that your posts are long-winded, unpleasant to read due to your absurd formatting style and full of technical inaccuracies borne of your single minded i-have-a-hammer-so-every-problem-is-a-nail attitude. - http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3406867&cid=42701491 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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What mad skillz you have!! - http://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3581193&cid=43273941 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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You are my favorite Slashdot poster. - http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3580251&cid=43270359 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

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Most insightful post on the Internet - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3579259&cid=43275207 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]

-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

Did you see the movie "Pokemon"? Actually the induced night "dream world" is synonymous with the academic religious induced "HOSTS file" enslavement of DNS. Domains have no inherent value, as it was invented as a counterfeit and fictitious value to represent natural values in name resolution. Unfortunately, human values have declined to fictitious word values. Unknowingly, you are living in a "World Wide Web", as in a fictitious life in a counterfeit Internet - which you could consider APK induced "HOSTS file". Can you distinguish the academic induced root server from the natural OpenDNS? Beware of the change when your brain is free from HOSTS file enslavement - for you could find that the natural Slashdot has been destroyed!!

FROM -> Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

So long nummynuts, sorry to have to kick your nuts up into your head verbally speaking.

cower in my shadow some more, feeb. you're completely pathetic.

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* :)

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words!

P.S.=> That's what makes me LAUGH harder than ANYTHING ELSE on this forums (full of "FUD" spreading trolls) - When you hit trolls with facts & truths they CANNOT disprove validly on computing tech based grounds, this is the result - Applying unjustifiable downmods to effetely & vainly *try* to "hide" my posts & facts/truths they extoll!

Hahaha... lol , man: Happens nearly every single time I post such lists (proving how ineffectual these trolls are), only showing how solid my posts of that nature are...

That's the kind of martial arts [google.com] [google.com] I practice.

-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

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Re:Pi has better hosts file support than most phon (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276783)

Oh shit, the hosts files have become self-aware and started hacking accounts.

Captcha: vibrator

Re:Pi has better hosts file support than m ...apk (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276911)

Now there am proof that UID 137 is the FRAWD

I will block him with custom HOSTS file
APK

wtf (1, Offtopic)

Grashnak (1003791) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276795)

I haven't been paying attention. Can someone explain what this escaped mental patient has been doing here the last couple of days?

The Emperor's new post (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276847)

Only fools can see the host file rambling posts. I most definitely don't see them, do you?

Re:wtf (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276903)

Last few days? He's been posting this stuff since 2009 or maybe even earlier.

Thread from July 2009:

http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1300193&threshold=-1&commentsort=3&mode=thread&cid=28672163 [slashdot.org]

Re:wtf (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276993)

April 2006:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=183258&cid=15140197 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=183258&cid=15140261 [slashdot.org]

He was downright mellow back then.

It's interesting to watch the evolution over the years -- longer and longer posts, more and more bolding & other random formatting.

Re:wtf (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277069)

That's apk he's far more mellow because this guy is someone trolling apk

Re:wtf (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277147)

>apk
>mellow

You having a giggle, mate?

Re:wtf (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277223)

Last few days? He's been posting this stuff since 2009 or maybe even earlier.

So is the "$10,000 challenge" guy the same person as "apk"? At least a few months ago "apk" wrote almost sane comments, has he forgotten to take his medication again?

Re:wtf (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277351)

It doesn't matter. APK-parody technology has advanced to the point where it can pass the APK Turing Test, so there's no longer any measurable difference between real-APK and fake-APK. The APK Singularity is upon us.

Re:wtf (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277075)

I assume the poor bastard has gone off his meds again recently.

Re:wtf (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277127)

I'm not really sure why the folks that run slashdot can't give us some method of collapsing those posts by default to something reasonable, it takes quite a few seconds to scroll through all of that bullshit.

Re:wtf (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277207)

I'm not really sure why the folks that run slashdot can't give us some method of collapsing those posts by default to something reasonable, it takes quite a few seconds to scroll through all of that bullshit.

My current tactic is to search for Martial arts. Though I'll need to change it soon I guess.

Android development kit (5, Informative)

Tim the Gecko (745081) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276601)

How about this? - http://www.adafruit.com/products/885 [adafruit.com] - IOIO Mint - Portable Android Development Kit

Re:Android development kit (2)

ntw1103 (1208178) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276635)

1UP. I was just going to suggest this, but you beat me to it. I asked myself the same question, and ended up buying the IOIO board. It works. :)

Re:Android development kit (1)

csumpi (2258986) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276723)

+1. IOIO is an amazing piece of hardware. A whole bunch of io ports, plus your phone already has a screen, storage, battery and reliable wifi.

Works for some, not for all (2)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276941)

plus your phone already has a screen, storage, battery and reliable wifi.

That's fine if one's phone is a smartphone running Android. A lot of people especially in the Americas and western Europe carry an iPhone, for which development of accessory hardware is far more expensive. And a lot of other people carry a dumbphone and a separate other device because too many U.S. wireless carriers appear to refuse to activate a voice-only plan on a smartphone: CDMA2000 carriers don't use a CSIM in that country, and some GSM carriers are known to forcibly change the user's plan if the SIM is used with a "smartphone" IMEI.

Re:Works for some, not for all (2)

chrylis (262281) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276991)

If you choose an iPhone, you're knowingly going with a locked-down platform that explicitly forbids hobbyist accessories: "I want to develop an MFi accessory for personal use. Can I join the MFi Program? No." [apple.com]

The submitter, on the other hand, specifically stated "I don't care what phone platform."

Received an iPhone as a gift (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277163)

If you choose an iPhone, you're knowingly going with a locked-down platform

Not everybody who uses an iPhone chose an iPhone. What should somebody who received an iPhone as a gift do?

Re:Received an iPhone as a gift (4, Informative)

Microlith (54737) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277257)

Sell it and buy something they can use as they see fit? I hear Apple fans gibber on constantly about the resale value of their devices, so you should be able to get a good price I suppose.

Re:Received an iPhone as a gift (0)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277399)

I hear Apple fans gibber on constantly about the resale value of their devices

Is the resale value enough to pay for the ETF plus a new Android phone?

Re:Received an iPhone as a gift (1)

drooling-dog (189103) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277265)

I'll field this one. You could (a) sell it and get something you can do what you want with, or (b) forget about the hacking and learn to be happy with whatever Apple lets you do with what you've got.

Re:Received an iPhone as a gift (2)

Logger (9214) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277287)

Monthly contract, suckiest gift ever.

Re:Works for some, not for all (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276999)

A lot of people especially in the Americas and western Europe carry an iPhone,

Why would you market a geeky product to a bunch of old queers?

Re:Works for some, not for all (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277261)

A lot of people especially in the Americas and western Europe carry an iPhone,

Why would you market a geeky product to a bunch of old queers?

Some of the geekiest people I know are old queers, trollolol.

It's also fine if you have an iPhone (3, Informative)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277171)

A lot of people especially in the Americas and western Europe carry an iPhone, for which development of accessory hardware is far more expensive.

Only if you plan to sell it. If it's for personal development, just jailbreak the phone and connect to the serial port pins of the dock connector as per this SO post [stackoverflow.com] .

Obviously anyone looking to build custom hardware can handle the simple task required to hook up to it.

Optionally of course, you can do anything you like with Bluetooth LE without any licensing from Apple - and commercial apps are allowed to do BTLE communications in the background because of the low power consumption. That's what I would start with as an approach unless you need more bandwidth for some reason.

Re:It's also fine if you have an iPhone (1, Flamebait)

Microlith (54737) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277267)

Yeah, just jailbreak. And enjoy the cat and mouse game with Apple as they try to stuff you back in the box with each update.

Bluetooth

Which adds a nice layer of complication to a project.

No, the answer is to not use iOS devices. Apple obviously doesn't want you to.

Re:Works for some, not for all (1)

csumpi (2258986) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277393)

Even if you are stuck in the apple lock down, you can buy a used android phone on fleabay or craigslist for under $20. And $20 is not a lot of money if your ultimate goal is to work on some homebrew robotics or electronics project, trust me.

Re:Android development kit (1)

rwa2 (4391) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276789)

Ooh, awesome! The IOIO-OTG someone linked to below is the only rev I can find in stock anywhere, though...

Re:Android development kit (3, Informative)

chrylis (262281) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276845)

The OTG is the latest IOIO [blogspot.com] . Ytai is still working on crazily trying to pack even more features on the thing (apparently, his goal is to fit in every single sort of IO that the ATmega is capable of), but the OTG is the current state-of-the-art.

Re:Android development kit (1)

chrylis (262281) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276859)

And I've been spending too much time in Arduino-land lately. The IOIO is running a PIC (which can be reprogrammed if you're feeling frisky).

Re:Android development kit (1)

mjwalshe (1680392) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277121)

Yeh have you looked at PIC programing not exatly exactly kid or newbi friendly - and the pi effectively runs the full Linux experience arduinos and mobiles don't and if you can afford a smart phone and is monthly bill you can afford a pi.

Re:Android development kit (1)

chrylis (262281) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276803)

Came here to recommend the IOIO, specifically the OTG version (which will happily work with a standard computer as a USB peripheral as well). It also has connections for three separate I2C busses, and (unless someone can point me to an existing one), I'm in the initial stages of building an Android app to manually send I2C messages to chips for development purposes.

Re:Android development kit (1)

Nikker (749551) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277251)

How about checking ebay for some used Android phones? If you don't need the screen you can get a bunch of great deals on old nexus/htc phones, otherwise you still find loads of phones for under $50. Do some research on which ones are root-able and have USB OTG and you have some pretty decent flexibility with WIFI, Bluetooth, video out, GPU, dual core, etc,etc.

AC Rules (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276607)

First post hopefully

Re:AC Rules (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276869)

Good job failing.

GPIO (1, Redundant)

hammarlund (568027) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276617)

Your cell phone does not have an interface bus that you can use to control devices.

Re:GPIO (0)

RabidReindeer (2625839) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276721)

Your cell phone does not have an interface bus that you can use to control devices.

Mine does. Three of them. Bluetooth, WiFi, and USB.

Re:GPIO (1)

Dahamma (304068) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277029)

Seriously? Come on...

Those are high level protocols requiring software and OS support, etc. GPIO basically gives you register-level access to pins that you can do whatever you want with, which is extremely useful for an educational/DIY board, of course.

Re:GPIO (2)

WWJohnBrowningDo (2792397) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277111)

Read the question, please.

The only thing that is missing are the digital/analog in/out pins. So why not flip it around and make a USB or bluetooth peripheral board with just the pins?

Re:GPIO (1)

hawguy (1600213) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276771)

Your cell phone does not have an interface bus that you can use to control devices.

Yeah, that's why he said that when he wrote his question:

The only thing that is missing are the digital/analog in/out pins. So why not flip it around and make a USB or bluetooth peripheral board with just the pins?

And others have pointed out some solutions that do just that.

But they tend to cost about as much (or more) than just buying a Pi in the first place.But if you want the built-in camera and display like a cell phone, then going with an old cell phone + a USB I/O board might be more cost effective than procuring a quality touch-screen display and camera for the Pi.

Re:GPIO (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276823)

Wifi, Bluetooth, cellular signals...

Re:GPIO (1)

rusty0101 (565565) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276839)

In addition to bluetooth, wifi, and USB, HTC phones with the proprietary interface that initially looks like a mini-USB interface, well is a bit more. USB is included, but it also has audio i/o, as well as serial I/O that is accessible on pins on the connector. If you're concerned that you don't have i2c or even mimo/miso options, you're probably right, but a tremendous number of android phones do have host capable USB ports, and can control Arduino Uno's as serial devices that way, or Arduino Leonardo's and Esplora's as USB devices directly, and through that path has access to all of the IOs available on those boards, (including I2C.)

USB - Bluetooth (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276627)

So you want someone to create brand new technology for "the most outdated cellphones" to plug in USB and bluetooth? You want them to make the software for those outdated cellphones to communicate with that hardware also?

Re:USB - Bluetooth (1)

RabidReindeer (2625839) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276861)

So you want someone to create brand new technology for "the most outdated cellphones" to plug in USB and bluetooth? You want them to make the software for those outdated cellphones to communicate with that hardware also?

It would have to be pretty outdated, indeed. I have a circa-2005 Windows phone that came standard with USB, bluetooth, 802.11b, and infrared ports. I used a Bluetooth keyboard on it, and the IR could be used as a TV remote control.

Ironically, the cellphone radio blew out, so I had to buy a new phone (which does NOT have IR capabilities. And a more limited Bluetooth stack that won't talk to the keyboard). But the rest of that old phone works just fine, including the WiFi part.

Depends on use-case (5, Insightful)

StealthHunter (597677) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276629)

If your use-case is "leave attached to my TV" then a Pi makes a lot of sense. If you want to have a resilient case, be portable, have a small screen attached, etc, then maybe a phone makes more sense.

Re:Depends on use-case (2)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276969)

Another thing to consider is the community. Using some random phone, may have a small to medium sized community built up around hacking it. The Raspberry PI has a huge community built up and continuing to build up around it.
Also the phones cheep enough for hacking tend to be ones that are out of production, so getting another one, 6 months down the road may not be easy.
I am a fan of the Raspberry PI, but that doesn't make what I have written wrong.

Re:Depends on use-case (1)

alvarogmj (1679584) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277125)

Well, I have a RPi and a MK802, and the MK802 ends up being cheaper for this use case. The cost of the Pi, plus cable, sd card, a case, and the HDMI cable ends up being higher than the MK802. And the MK802 runs Android, meaning lots of apps ready to use. For me, the RPi is a cheap home server. And even on that use case, the MK802 with Linux is a better machine

Pearls before swine? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276633)

If you can't figure out why a Raspberry Pi might be a more useful computing platform than a cellphone....you're not the target demographic.

You're a consumer. Go enjoy your shrink-wrapped toys.

Re: Pearls before swine? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277191)

If you can't figure out that the asker has already figured that out that they're not the Pi's target market, and isn't questioning the Pi's utility for its target market, you're not insightful.

You're a fanboy. Go play with your Pi.

You might not need one, but... (5, Interesting)

mr_goodwin (220609) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276659)

I'd have had trouble doing this with a cellphone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_c9cxoM8tg

Part of the usefulness of the Pi is *because* it lacks those things; you have the option of adding what suits your application.

Re:You might not need one, but... (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277193)

How long did it take to potty train that little guy? Straight to his newspaper!

it sounds like this (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276679)

It sound like something like this is what you are looking for, I have no experience with it

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11343

even the most outdated cellphone (1)

jibjibjib (889679) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276683)

I don't see what the point of this claim about the "most outdated cellphone" was. Even among new phones, there are models without touchscreens or wifi, and if you start considering outdated technology at all then your claim becomes even more inaccurate.

Re: even the most outdated cellphone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276761)

I bought a brand new cell phone in January. It doesn't have a touchscreen, wifi, or 4G.

Re: even the most outdated cellphone (1)

hawguy (1600213) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276809)

I don't see what the point of this claim about the "most outdated cellphone" was. Even among new phones, there are models without touchscreens or wifi, and if you start considering outdated technology at all then your claim becomes even more inaccurate.

Using my keen powers of recognizing context, I've deduced that he meant "Android smartphones", he wasn't talking about a basic feature phone that doesn't run android and doens't have a screen, touch screen, Wifi, 3g/4g camera(s), etc.

Re: even the most outdated cellphone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276953)

What "context" are you talking about? There's absolutely no mention of Android in TFS, and in fact he says, "I don't care what phone platform."

Re: even the most outdated cellphone (2)

hawguy (1600213) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277145)

What "context" are you talking about? There's absolutely no mention of Android in TFS, and in fact he says, "I don't care what phone platform."

The context comes from knowing that he's talking about a programmable phone platform that has a touch screen, camera, etc - customizable enough to allow a driver for a USB I/O board to be loaded. There aren't many phone platforms that meet those criteria, and an feature phone is not one of them.

Only a nitpicking pedant would say "Hey, wait a second, he said "Cell Phones", but the Nokia 1100 has no camera, a monochrome non-touch screen display, and no known SDK to allow custom apps to be developed for it, so that proves that any old cell phone is not what he's looking for, so obviously he doesn't know what he's talking about!"

You want an Arduino, not a Raspberry Pi (2)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276687)

An Arduino will get you pretty close to a box with pins attached to a USB cable, though the USB cable is emulating a serial port.

A Raspberry Pi is like an original iPhone with the screen removed a few ports added and all the Arduino GPIO features built onboard so you get GPIO support built in.

XBMC Media Server (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276697)

You can load XBMC on it to stream your videos etc to. It can be mounted on the back of the tv, etc and XBMC can be controlled via smartphone.

Re:XBMC Media Server (2)

rusty0101 (565565) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277019)

Actually, if you select the 'outdated' hardware correctly, you can do all of that with a used cell phone. Several have HDMI out through an adapter for the USB interface, and some of the latest have wireless video capabilities as well. xbmc has been ported to the Android platform.

Now that's not to say that it's the best solution in anyone's book, but my experience with Raspberry Pi is that it makes a mediocre xbmc interface as a front end to something like MythTv. It is capable, just as a 3/4 ton pickup is capable of hauling more than 5 tons if it's done right, but in my experience it's not really the right tool for the job. The real power of the Raspberry Pi comes in figuring out what you can do with it that no-one else has done. At some point people have made their own dropbox alternative with the platform, which tells me that the system would work well enough as a plug server as well. household environmental management seems like a reasonably trivial thing to work out, though you'll have to create your own vent management system to be able to control air flow for thermal regulation in some cases. I can see someone developing their own home surveying system using poles, hoses and water level sensors, then capturing the property topography and feeding it into their own CAD software to figure out how they want to do building projects, how much earth will have to be moved, where it might go, etc. Then hand off the same Raspberry Pi to their daughter who builds a scanner using nothing more than an led and photo-resistor, and a couple of stepper motors to move the sensor they built. Or use a few rotary encoders and a button to build their own 3d scanner.

Note, I'm not saying that using a Raspberry Pi as an xbmc set top box is a bad idea, just that there are a lot of things that you can do if you get out of the mindset that it's an entertainment device and recognize that it is so much more.

Don't ask: why buy X? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276711)

You have no need for something, and want reasons to buy it? That is stupid. When you have some need, ask what can fill it. If you want to know why other people buy something, ask that.

Re:Don't ask: why buy X? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276813)

You either didn't even read the summary, or your reading comprehension is lacking...badly.

Looked at this (1)

transporter_ii (986545) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276733)

For a little scada type application. You probably could do what you want to do, but the easiest way to do it would be to make it connect to the phone via bluetooth. It seems that you can't just connect things to the USB ports on a phone and access them the way you think you could. But if you use bluetooth, it's one more wireless point of failure and you have to look at getting power to your board instead getting it from the phone. Didn't appeal to me and just dropped this idea.

More open access to the usb ports would be cool, though. If an alarm tripped...it's already connected to a device with a SIM card in it.

ioio (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276765)

I am using ioio boards for several projects and in my opinion they beat Arduino both in price and usability. They can be used through the slave USB port of the phone or via bluetooth.

Peripheral boards (3, Interesting)

RabidReindeer (2625839) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276815)

"I've been looking into getting a Raspberry Pi, but I end up needing a case, a display, and some way to power it, and wanting some degree of portability. It seems to me that even the most outdated cellphone has far superior features (screen, touch screen, Wifi, 3g/4g camera(s), battery etc) in a much better form factor. The only thing that is missing are the digital/analog in/out pins. So why not flip it around and make a USB or bluetooth peripheral board with just the pins? I've been looking for this and can't find any, but does anyone know of any in the corners of the internet? I don't care what phone platform."

I think this might be adaptable. Although its original intent was as an XBee interface, the catalog explicitly states it can be used for USB-to-TTL. Presumably by tapping the points where the ZBee's GPIO pins break out:

http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_2159285_-1 [jameco.com]

Because you need your phone as the remote. (4, Interesting)

tuppe666 (904118) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276831)

I'm not sure why the comparison with a cellphone. Currently I'm using it as XBMC and using my Android phone as the remote. It was a toss up between the Pi and the ultra cheap AndroidTV dongles that are kicking around (Why I think AppleTV is dead on arrival), and overall I couldn't be happier stupid setup errors aside [power supply too weak on the pi to power the usb; couldn't get wifi working on the minimal distribution?] Otherwise its incredible, and using the phone as a remote control has changes my life.

There are a few compromises with the pi [512 memory & missing sata] otherwise I'm overjoyed with the source. Killer feature, you mess up you wipe your card and your good to go.

The bottom line is your old phone is less versatile with less support, but its great at being a phone...which if its the task you want go ahead. Otherwise its such an incredible strange question.

iFanboy (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276843)

Because you are a consumer, and prefer to buy or steal you toys rather than build something.

Ha Ha... you work for me now...

RaspberryPi USB suxx (2)

koaschten (1186133) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276849)

It regularly manages to crash the USB stack if you put load on the USB stack, so considering that the LAN on the RaspberryPi B is connected to said USB...

Better choices than a Raspberry Pi. (4, Informative)

hamster_nz (656572) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276867)

You should look at the other ARM boards out there e.g. pcDuino [pcduino.com] . More memory, more I/O, onboard flash, Linux or Android.

However there are some things that you can do with a micro-controller that can not be done with a full OS - e.g. bit-banging I/O to one-wire temperature sensors. I've even used a full USB 1.1. HID driver implemented completely in software, which would be impossible with an full OS running!

Re:Better choices than a Raspberry Pi. (1)

Dahamma (304068) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277135)

However there are some things that you can do with a micro-controller that can not be done with a full OS - e.g. bit-banging I/O to one-wire temperature sensors.

Why couldn't you do that with a full OS? I did something just like this under Linux almost a decade ago on a set-top with BRCM SoC. You can even do it in userspace if you mmap the BRCM GPIO registers. Same with a HID driver (BRCM's was implemented in software in a kernel module... kind of a CPU hog, but it worked fine). Even their V.34 modem was implemented in software (ugh).

Re:Better choices than a Raspberry Pi. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277373)

From memory, one wire sensors keep a tristate line pulled down for 15 microsecond to send a '0' and 60 microseconds to send a '1' (or something like that). So the master has to pull down the line, release it and then time how long it takes to return to '1'. A whole frame of bits needs to be received without error for the CRC to check out. This takes around a millisecond.

Interrupts, tasks switches, drivers, memory paging, other tasks all get in the way of this. It might work most of the time on an idle CPU, but on a busy single core system it will be a problem. If you are using the kernel GPIO interface (where each read of the pin takes multiple syscalls) you have very little chance of a reliable solution.

However, on an Arduino (or some other microcontroller) this is all a piece of cake - you just need to find the right tool for the job..

Duh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276917)

You don't have to use android.

IOIO (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43276949)

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11343

I haven't used this newer version, but have successfully used the original IOIO to do the sorts of things you're talking about. GPIO pins, A/D, various serial buses, etc.

Cost? (2)

techhead79 (1517299) | about a year and a half ago | (#43276975)

Because one of them doesn't actually cost 35 bucks to produce.

Why buy a vacuum cleaner when... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277001)

...I have a perfectly good dog?

I've been looking into getting a vacuum cleaner, but I end up needing some bags, elbow grease, and some way to power it, and wanting some degree of portability. It seems to me that even the most tiny dog has far superior features (self motivation, voice control, cuteness, long tongue, empties itself etc) in a much better form factor. The only thing that is missing is the desire to eat all the dust in the carpet. So why not flip it around and make a training program or breeding system to have them do it? I've been looking for this and can't find any, but does anyone know of any in the corners of the internet?

I don't care what breed of dog.

Raspberry Pi is jail broken (0)

Mabhatter (126906) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277021)

You get a tremendous amount of control on you little Raspberry Pi. You can't get THAT on your little cell phone. Also, by the time somebody wires up a special board, for EACH specific brand phone (cause they all have "special sauce") it would cost most of the cost of the Pi and be half as useful.

Like other people have said, most phones have no HOST capability over USB. So you would need some kind of chip to do the talking to another useful chip that can DO SOMETHING. Your back to $20-$30 unless you want to solder yourself....

That is the thing here... If you're complaining about making your own case and battery holder you're clearly not in the marketbfor this stuff.

Re:Raspberry Pi is jail broken (1)

Microlith (54737) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277213)

Err no. The Raspberry Pi is not "jailbroken." It was never crippled in the first place. It's basically a standard PC except with an ARMv6 CPU on a board the size of a credit card.

I suppose the point of my comment is that computers have to be deliberately designed to be crippled and locked down, in contrast to the standard state of a computer.

Teensy 3.0 maybe? (1)

Misagon (1135) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277043)

If all you want is a USB and a bunch of pins with it, then the Raspberry Pi is overkill where a simpler microcontroller board would do.

One example of such a board is the Teensy 3.0 [pjrc.com] USB Development Board. It has a 48MHz ARM cpu (Cortex-M4), is only 1.4 by 0.7 inch large, has 28 pins and a micro USB port.
By default, it gets its power from a host computer, but you could also wire up its own power supply. There is also an optional Micro-SD card board for storage.
However, I don't think that it would run Linux like the Raspberry Pi, only your own code.
It is definitely in a small form factor.

Sorry (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277059)

Look, I'm sorry the Pi wasn't invented in America.

RPi has a sizeable niche (1)

mike449 (238450) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277063)

It makes sense to use RPi when you need ALL of these:
1. Linux toolchain and lots of available packages (open source)
2. Develop on the device itself
3. Once the application is ready, disconnect screen/keyboard and use remote SSH if necessary
4. Low cost

The cost of an USB IO expansion board is typically higher than RPi.

A computer (0)

DogDude (805747) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277073)

What is the point of these things when the market is awash with cheap used computers? Why not grab a laptop for $100 that'll have much, much more functionality than one of these bare bones kits?

Re:A computer (2)

blacksmith_tb (855386) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277283)

Oh sure, but the RPi draws about 2W idle, less than 5W if it is really working overtime. Plus it's fanless and silent. It makes a nice little headless server for lots of things. And even used, cheap laptops aren't often under $50...

There is no reason to (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277129)

I bought one and it is vastly inferior to your typical microcontroller for interfacing purposes.
It is vastly inferior to your desktop PC for running Linux, even compared to an older junker PC.
It sucks compared to your phone for connectivity and interfaces (e.g. touch screen, network, GUI etc).
So really there is no reason to buy one.
Also they are not really stable. I left mine sitting in X over the weekend and came back to find it frozen.

Ask Slashdot: (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43277169)

Why have sex with a woman when I have a perfectly good hand?

Rasberi Pi != cellhone (3, Informative)

davydagger (2566757) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277217)

1. price- no cell phone is that cheap
2. better documented hardware with FOSS drivers.(NO cellphone has FOSS drivers, or firmware). In fact its hard if not impossible getting firmware extracted, or proprietary binary drivers for a general purpose OS for your cell phone.

Its not like desktop OSs, where you can just download the latest nvidia or ATI drivers for linux from the vendor

3. Cell phones are made for android which is NOT a General Purpose OS, and can be restrictive.

4. Rasberri PI by default boots from an SD card, making running whatever OS you want, without hacking easy. There is also no need to root it.

5. the Rasberri PI also has hostmode USB ports, for plugging devices in, your phone most likely does not, if your lucky OTG.

6. There are other ARM protoboards and dev boards that are not the PI which have ARM class CPUs. Most of them run any OS you put on them. RasPI is not the first nor will be the last.

You're missing the point of the Rasbperry Pi. (1)

galimore (461274) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277291)

http://pyvideo.org/video/1668/keynote-2 [pyvideo.org]

Maybe you'll still feel like the Pi isn't for you, but contrasting the Raspberry Pi against a cell phone is missing the point entirely, and it detracts from the purpose of the project.

Ask better questions, get better answers (3, Insightful)

inglorion_on_the_net (1965514) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277335)

Why Buy a Raspberry Pi When I Have a Perfectly Good Cellphone?

Because you can install your own operating system on your Raspberry Pi, but not on your cellphone?

Because you want to support the Raspberry Pi foundation?

There are many possible answers.

It seems to me that even the most outdated cellphone has far superior features (screen, touch screen, Wifi, 3g/4g camera(s), battery etc) in a much better form factor.

If the combination of those is what you're looking for, then maybe you want a cellphone. Why are you comparing a cellphone against a Raspberry Pi?

The only thing that is missing are the digital/analog in/out pins. So why not flip it around and make a USB or bluetooth peripheral board with just the pins? I've been looking for this and can't find any, but does anyone know of any in the corners of the internet? I don't care what phone platform.

What are you going to do with it? How are you planning to do it? You don't care what phone platform? Don't you at least want one that you can run your own code on? Preferably with enough privileges that you can actually drive your shiny peripheral?

Here's the thing: Tell us what you're trying to do, and maybe we can help you, possibly by giving some recommendations for hardware to work with.

As it stands, your question is more flamebait than helpful. You're stating that you think even outdated cellphones are superior to a devices that some of us really like, without stating what purpose you think cellphones are superior for. That gives us little opportunity to be helpful, and plenty of opportunity to feel slighted.

26 I/O Lines and a Lot Cheaper (1)

Slicker (102588) | about a year and a half ago | (#43277369)

For me, the grand appeal of the Rasbperri PI is it's 26 I/O lines--It's difficult to find a microcontroller with so many I/O lines and particularly with any reasonable CPU power.. This provides both. The downside is that the gyros in smartphones are also very useful in robotics projects. And I'd sure be nice to also have access to some GPU power, computationally...

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