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Cuban Video Game Recreates Revolutionary History

samzenpus posted about a year ago | from the shooting-the-past dept.

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Hugh Pickens writes writes "The Guardian reports that Cuban programmers have unveiled a new 3D video game that puts a revolutionary twist on gaming, letting players recreate decisive clashes from the 1959 uprising in which many of their grandparents fought. 'The player identifies with the history of Cuba,' says Haylin Corujo, head of video game studies for Cuba's Youth Computing Club and leader of the team of developers who created Gesta Final – roughly translated as 'Final Heroic Deed'. 'You can be a participant in the battles that were fought in the war from '56 to '59.' The game begins with the user joining the 82 rebels who in 1956 sailed to Cuba from Mexico aboard the Granma. Players then fight their way through swamps shoulder-to-shoulder with bearded guerrillas clad in the olive green of Fidel Castro and Ernesto 'Che' Guevara to topple 1950s Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista. The game lets you pick from three player profiles, one in an olive hat similar to the one Fidel Castro was known for, another wearing a Guevara-style beret and the last with the kind of helmet worn by the ill-fated Camilo Cienfuegos in many revolution-era photographs. Rene Vargas, a 29-year-old gamer who tried his hand at 'Gesta Final' when it was presented at a technology fair in Havana last week, says the graphics were surprisingly sophisticated. 'Bearing in mind the level of technical support there is in Cuba, it looks pretty good,' says Vargas. There are about 783,000 computers in this country of some 11 million inhabitants, according to government statistics from 2011. Private ownership of computers is low, but many Cubans access them at work, school or cyber cafes. 'We developed (it) keeping in mind the purchasing power and reality of Cubans,' says Corujo. 'It doesn't require incredible technological features.'"

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In other news... (0, Troll)

Tastecicles (1153671) | about a year ago | (#43323899)

....German MMO developers announce an Alpha of a Reichstag recreation.


Re:In other news... (5, Insightful)

swampfriend (2629073) | about a year ago | (#43323947)

You're comparing the Cuban Revolution to the rise of Nazi Germany? Congratulations on almost completing your American primary public education little guy.

Re:In other news... (1, Insightful)

some old guy (674482) | about a year ago | (#43323961)

When you have a combat boot crushing your throat, it doesn't matter if its a Left boot or a Right boot.

Re:In other news... (5, Informative)

swampfriend (2629073) | about a year ago | (#43323983)

Yes, that is exactly the kind of meaningless "political" "opinion" I'm talking about. What do you know about people crushing other people's throats with combat boots in the Cuban revolution? A revolution in which 58 men inspired a country of 6.5 million to throw out a dictatorial, postcolonial government? You know nothing.

Re:In other news... (0, Flamebait)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | about a year ago | (#43324097)

And then establish an even more brutal police state where even more people were imprisoned, tortured and murdered without due process? You call other people ignorant when you willfully ignore the crimes of the Cuban communists.

Re:In other news... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324195)

"Even more" just proves your complete ignorance on the subject, Castro's revolution had its flaws but he never openly tortured or killed his fellow citizens, much less in the scale the old Batista dictatorship did. And whenever they did something unsavory like executing war criminals, torturers or delators, they did follow due process every single time.

Yes, you are not only ignorant, but your ignorance is kind of amusing, taking in account that their prison rate is nowhere close to the US one and AFAIK there is no evidence they ever executed a person that was a minor when omitting a crime, mentally ill and their statistics don't show any racial bias towards capital punishment (that FYI has been in a moratorium for 20+ years except for one single instance of boat hijackers that killed someone while stealing a ship to get to the US).

Make a favor to yourself and inform on a subject before forming an opinion, education gaps, fox news and plain old cold war propaganda won't get you far in life.

Re:In other news... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324673)

"...they did follow due process every single time"

citation needed...

Re:In other news... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325487)

"Hundreds of Batista-era agents, policemen and soldiers were put on public trial for human rights abuses, war crimes, murder and torture. Most of the people accused were convicted by revolutionary tribunals of political crimes, and were executed by firing squad; others persons received long sentences of imprisonment. A notable example of revolutionary justice was after the capture of Santiago, Raul Castro directed the execution of more than seventy Batista POWs.[24]

For his part in taking Havana, Che Guevara was appointed supreme prosecutor in La Cabaña Fortress. This was part of a large-scale attempt by Fidel Castro to cleanse the security forces of Batista loyalists and potential opponents of the new revolutionary regime. Others were fortunate enough to be dismissed from the army and police without prosecution, and some high-ranking officials in the ancien régime were exiled as military attachés.[24]"

Re:In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325951)


Re:In other news... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325313)

As the son of exiles and someone who knows many families who lost loved ones to the lack of due process, please stop your ignorant rants and stop reading 'Internet Facts' written by the same people that did the atrocities which are all too well known to those that actually lived through it. You are insulting the memory of many people who actually wanted a truly free and democratic Cuba, and were not afraid to speak out against what they knew even back then was just an exchange from one bad dictatorship to another. The medicine is not better; nor is the education and overall quality of life, but you wouldn't know that unless you actually knew people from there or gone to visit Cuba yourself, and I'm not talking about the tourist areas.

I hope this is an early April Fools joke, even if it is a bad one.

Re:In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325555)

You should ask your parents what exactly they did to deserve the public revolutionary trials. As them how many people they tortured or killed, or how many were killed because of their denouncing to a corrupt military dictatorship drunk on the blood of countless people.

And don't be a fool, I visit Cuba regularly and have several friends over there, they even got me to "la cabaña", the place where the trials and executions took place. I even got the list of executions, and even while I disagree in principle to the summary trials, the numbers were quite lower than I expected based in the hype from the Miami crowd.

As for a joke, supporting 50 years of embargo against your won people with the explicit goal to create hardship and unrest is not even funny.

Re:In other news... (1)

dbIII (701233) | about a year ago | (#43324293)

What do you think about Greece now then? Spain? Or Japan if a couple more decades isn't too long ago?

Just let it go.
A bunch of people murdered a corrupt government, kicked out foreign gangsters (with political connections otherwise they wouldn't have been so much stink from the USA for so many years), and being a bunch of murderers running a revolution a lot of other people got killed too for a few years afterwards. That's what happens with revolutions when you are revolting against people there and in your face and not on the other side of an ocean kept away by the French.

Re:In other news... (0)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about a year ago | (#43326015)

"... with political connections otherwise they wouldn't have been so much stink from the USA for so many years..."

Actually, the main reason for the stink was Cuba's militant ties to Russia and other Communist wannabes. Which was a hell of a good reason for a stink, at the time.

Re:In other news... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324123)

Batista's regime can hardly claim the moral high ground, but the same can be said for Castro, Guevara and the revolutionaries. In fact, in any armed conflict, there are some rather bloody hands on both sides (figuratively speaking). It's important not to put anyone on a pedestal simply because of some view they espoused, without taking a long hard look at the actions they took to realize those views.

Re:In other news... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324159)

As opposed to your "opinion" where Che and Castro were angels and didn't kill anybody opposed to a complete nationalization of the Cuban economy. Propaganda comes from all sides, including your leftist friends, and until you grow up enough to recognize that fact, you only know one side of history--precisely what you accuse the grandparent of. Let's just hope you do not follow Che's path and kill him because your political disagreement.

Re:In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324367)

Nope, they never executed anyone because of the opposition to nationalization. Of course that depends on HOW you opposed said nationalization, if by opposing you mean taking arms in the losing side of the called "war against bandits", well, some died in combat, others were executed because of the atrocities they committed while most survivors ended with long prison sentences.

The record of executions is floating around somewhere in the web and is relatively short taking in account that Batista regime tortured and killed people in the thousands.

Re:In other news... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324499)

Therefore the southern states should have been allowed to secede from the union so they could retain their "god given right" to enslave and murder others because they looked different? I mean, we only know one side of history here. Maybe slavery is good after all!! Please tell us more.

Re:In other news... (1, Insightful)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about a year ago | (#43325999)

"A revolution in which 58 men inspired a country of 6.5 million to throw out a dictatorial, postcolonial government?"

... and replaced it with another dictatorial, post-colonial government.

Am I supposed to be impressed?

Re:In other news... (1)

Tastecicles (1153671) | about a year ago | (#43324215)

fail. I didn't go to an American school.

Re:In other news... (1)

Tastecicles (1153671) | about a year ago | (#43324239)

...and yes, I am comparing a REVOLUTION to ANOTHER REVOLUTION.

Re:In other news... (1)

Hentes (2461350) | about a year ago | (#43325123)

He is comparing propaganda to propaganda. Although truth to be told you can't play as Nazis in American shooters so it would be only fair.

Game engine? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324059)

Shame. The summary doesn't even mention what game engine was used. And you call this news for nerds?

Re:Game engine? (1)

thewolfkin (2790519) | about a year ago | (#43324145)

Shame. The summary doesn't even mention what game engine was used. And you call this news for nerds?

um.. can I get a +5 over here?

Re:Game engine? (1)

Tastecicles (1153671) | about a year ago | (#43324233)

it was the one they used for Unreal 2003. >:]

Re:Game engine? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325499)

Unreal Engine 2? Not a bad choice. Runs decent on practically anything anyone have on their desktops.

Re:Game engine? (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year ago | (#43324359)

Well, when you see all those old cars they keep running, you have to figure they're probably using FORTRAN, COBOL, or maybe even LISP

Re:Game engine? (1)

Tastecicles (1153671) | about a year ago | (#43324425)

oh, I figured on it being a ZX81 BASIC Frogger clone...

Re:Game engine? (1)

davydagger (2566757) | about a year ago | (#43324813)


it does sound like an intresting video game premise, though. Lets face in, in American video games, far worst protagonists have been used. I would be intresting to see the graphics and the gameplay, and how the storyline is interpreted.(is it shear campy propaganda, or did they enhance it for media).

The irony is that few of them have computers, and the handful of people who will get to play this will be regime loyalists.

Re:In other news... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324221)

Look you may not know this, but the Batista government was the bad guy, and was a puppet government propped up by the US after the Spanish American know the one US started so they could get take huge chunks of spanish territory. Before those 82 rebels started their revolution Cuba had the following problems:

  75% of rural dwellings were huts made from palm trees.
More than 50% had no toilets of any kind.
85% had no inside running water.
91% had no electricity.
There was only 1 doctor per 2,000 people in rural areas.
More than one-third of the rural population had intestinal parasites.
Only 4% of Cuban peasants ate meat regularly; only 1% ate fish, less than 2% eggs, 3% bread, 11% milk; none ate green vegetables.
The average annual income among peasants was $91 (1956), less than 1/3 of the national income per person.
45% of the rural population was illiterate; 44% had never attended a school.

Now they have a better Literacy, infant mortality and healthcare than the US. I would call that a pretty heroic tale.

Re:In other news... (3, Insightful)

_Sharp'r_ (649297) | about a year ago | (#43324521)

Now they have a better Literacy, infant mortality and healthcare than the US.

Uhh... Bullshit? It always amazes me that so many people are willing to credulousness accept "statistics" like that from total propaganda. You probably also believed that the Soviet Union was a massive economic powerhouse for it's people in the 80s, right?

Hint: People don't take leaky boats and swim across oceans to get elsewhere because where they live is just too wonderful for them to handle. Try talking to someone who's actually lived in Cuba and then escaped.

Re:In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324689)

The escapees were/are criminals. Look at the riots they cause while waiting to be processed. Is that the way to act as a guest in somebody else's house. I would think not! We should be sending them back, and would doing exactly that if we were on more friendly terms, regardless of their despotism. In other words look at how we treat Guatemalan and Salvadorian refugees.

Re:In other news... (1)

khallow (566160) | about a year ago | (#43324915)

Those refugee "escapees" were almost 10% of Cuba's population. That's an awful lot of criminals per capita.

Re:In other news... (1)

Eunuchswear (210685) | about a year ago | (#43325279)

True. The US has the largest prison population per capita and even there it's only 1% of the adult population.

Re:In other news... (1)

del_diablo (1747634) | about a year ago | (#43325637)

So the nepotic upper middleclass and people who took the chance to run was equal to 10% of the population? How many of those people where even Cuban for that matter?

Re:In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324979)

Upmod dis piece of chit.

Re:In other news... (4, Insightful)

einar2 (784078) | about a year ago | (#43324761)

So... you doubt the propaganda of other countries but you believe the one fed to you by your leaders.

Hint: My working colleagues did not leave the US because it was so great to live there...

Re:In other news... (4, Informative)

Hentes (2461350) | about a year ago | (#43325085)

Of course they are not as developed as the US, but that's true for most countries. Cuba has a relatively high HDI [] , according to the UN, not the Cuban government.

Re:In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325267)

Bullshit? You really believe that the US has a better healthcare system than *any* developed or semi-developed country??

Re:In other news... (3, Insightful)

dryeo (100693) | about a year ago | (#43325359)

People don't do the same thing to escape the wonderful capitalistic democracies of Mexico and various Central American states?

Re:In other news... (3, Informative)

blind biker (1066130) | about a year ago | (#43325491)

Cuba definitely does have better healthcare than the US, where 50 million people have none.

For instance, Cuba has two and a half more doctors per capita than the US []

Oh, and here's another datapoint: the table shows literacy levels in Cuba being higher than the USA. []

Re:In other news... (0)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year ago | (#43325575)

You are an idiot beyond believe.

Cuba doesn't, in any way, have better health care, but you go ahead and move your ass to Cuba and take it instead. Go ahead, we won't miss you.

EVERY American has health care, it just comes with strings attached. And no, it isn't there to solve all your problems, but it will prevent you from dropping dead.

Perhaps you are unaware of legal requirements in health care facilities, but the only reason anyone in my lifetime has not gotten medical care is because they didn't walk into the ER, and if you don't make it to the ER or to an Ambulance, thats your fault, not mine.

America doesn't have sit on your fat ass and have no interest in your own life health care for all. It does require you to put some effort into it if you want something other than emergency only coverage. Considering there is exactly 0 reasons for you to be so poor you can't afford health 'insurance' in America, you can't really play that card.

Unlike Cuba, where even in the hospital, you're odds are shitty ... assuming you don't die in line first.

But hey, lets pretend its the same thing because you're too ignorant to know the truth from propaganda yourself even when seeing the truth requires nothing more than opening your fucking eyes.

Re:In other news... (2)

blind biker (1066130) | about a year ago | (#43325645)

Dude... 50 million without healthcare.

You know which other first world country doesn't have universal heathcare?


Re:In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325531)

Try talking to someone who's actually lived in Cuba and then escaped. []

"I wanted to go to Venezuela. But it turns out you have to have permission from them!"

Cubans, like those of most other developing countries, will still find it difficult in many cases to get visas from wealthier nations like the US. Several European diplomats in Havana said their embassies have received a high volume of calls from would-be travellers unaware that they would still need a visa, despite a campaign in official Cuban media to clarify the new requirements.

Hmmm, so why are they not allowed to escape their "tyranny" now? Why isn't US granting landed immigrant status to every single one in Cuba wanting to leave tomorrow?

It is *all* politics. And if you just listen to the "survivors" and "escapees" and the like, you just know one side of the story. Just like that story about Saddam's mobile WMDs program, drug labs in semis and secret underground cities.

Economic migration is nothing new. It happens all the time. Everything else is bullshit.

As for political prisoners and asylum seekers, well, Julian Assange anyone? Lots and lots of other examples. There is no special countries.

PS. Childhood mortality rates in Cuba are lower than in the US, primarily because of universal heathcare in Cuba. US is the only wealthy nation in the world that does not provide healthcare coverage to its population!

Re:In other news... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325537)

Say what you will about the Cuban state, but they do have a lower infant mortality rate and a higher literacy rate than the US.

So although it might not be the best place to live, there is no bullshit in the OP's post.

Castro and Jesus (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325543)

I read a book on Castro's revolution and what impressed me was the similarities between Castro and Jesus (complete with Granma as the legendary donkey). Both were certain they were destined for power but didn't know exactly what they'd do with it. Both countries were ripe for a revolution, only Castro took care of the tactical alliances with competing rebel groups while Jesus tried to go it alone. In the end, Jesus' followers managed to storm the temple and hold it for a few hours max before they had to run and were arrested after a brief melee.

In Castro's regime you can see what Jesus' regime would have been like if his revolution had succeeded. We would have seen the apostles live the good life for decades and divvy up the spoils. In their dreams, they could have kept the Romans at bay just like Castro managed to keep the U.S. at bay (no pun intended).


For a Free Internet (1594621) | about a year ago | (#43323905)

extend the revolution to the heart of imperialism! Workers to power!

Celebrating Mass Murderers (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43323907)

Yeah Castro and his boy Che Che are real fucking heros. Che ran Castro's death camps and got off murdering people. HEROS!!

Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43323923)

This may surprise you, but actual history is distinct from freerepublic hyperbole.

Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324027)

This may surprise you, but actual history is distinct from freerepublic hyperbole.

Well, technically they were called labor camps.

But hyperbole? So we have a guy who fought for "freedom" and ended up being in power all his life. And passed that power to family members. I cannot say what it was like under Batista, but good grief! Castro couldn't have created a democratic system? He could have at the very least done a George Washington and been the first President. And then peacefully left office.

It makes me really appreciate the Founders of the US. There were so many opportunities to turn this country into another Western Hemisphere dictatorship shithole and they didn't.

Of course a democracy doesn't guarantee anything -see Mexico.

Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers (3, Insightful)

thewolfkin (2790519) | about a year ago | (#43324117)

Of course a democracy doesn't guarantee anything -see Merica.


crikes look at how many "democracies" America has established against the will of the people that have turned ugly that's a far worse track record than Cuba. I mean Vietnam for crying out loud. Ho Chi Minh looked to the US for help breaking free of it's colonial status (like US/England) and then when they wanted to establish a govt of their own choosing .. war.

Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers (0)

GrumpySteen (1250194) | about a year ago | (#43324179)

Well, technically they were called labor camps.

That's because they forced people to work and weren't trying to commit wholesale slaughter, unlike the Nazis to whom they're being equated here.

If the numbers on the Wikipedia page [] are to be believed, the death rate appears to have been lower than the current global mortality rate; 0.7% vs 0.9%. People in the labor camps were certainly treated harshly, but they weren't being slaughtered en masse.

Re:Celebrating Mass Murderers (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324271)

Nope, with open US hostility towards the Cuban revolution he didn't have a choice on the matter: it was fall to the soviet sphere of influence or cease to exist, as simple as that. And technically Cuba has a democratic system where every single official is elected by the general population in free elections. The problem is that after the local level, the representatives are the one postulating the candidates to the next level and the people can only confirm or reject the candidates, what in practice means that all the candidates get elected.

Also Fidel didn't "passed power" to family members, Raul was vice-president when Fidel got ill and temporarily assumed the presidency of the country, then got elected twice with more than 90% of the votes. And face it, he was the right man for the position. I seriously doubt any of the other candidates would have the guts an political prowess to reform the worst of the Fidel era rules and he promised more radical changes in his second and last term. As for the opposition, better not even start on it. Is pathetically small and powerless and is mostly made of entertainers whose target audience is not their fellow Cuban citizens but the outside world (aka Yoani Sanchez) or discredited old farts for whom dissidence is a lucrative job, but either way they lack any cohesion or realistic plan to take Cuba anywhere. For them is always

1. Democracy
2. ???
3. Profit!

They should've hired Rockstar (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43323949)

This could've been a great prequel to GTA: Vice City.

Re:They should've hired Rockstar (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324151)

Nah. It is more of a prequel to BioShock Cuba. But instead of a sunk (or floating) city with old technology and an autocratic regime, it will be an island with old technology and an autocratic regime.

Marco Rubio's parents (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43323971)

I heard they were fighting against Castro and had to leave. Maybe a game piece for them?

I... I kind of almost want to play this (2)

sandytaru (1158959) | about a year ago | (#43324029)

Seems no different in premise than the Call of Duty games or any of the other war games that USians love to play. Too bad it appears to be a single player game and not an MMO - that would be rather awesome.

Dance Dance Revolution (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324051)

Dance Dance Revolution - Cuban style: []

Re:Dance Dance Revolution (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324381)

Seth? Is that you?
Well done you Stoopid Monkey!

Screenshots (4, Informative)

Paul Slocum (598127) | about a year ago | (#43324109)

This article [] has screenshots and more details about gameplay.

Re:Screenshots (2)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about a year ago | (#43324147)

Graphics aren't terrible, somewhere between SWAT4 and Ghost Recon.

So where can I download it?

Medal of Honor: Cuba (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324149)

But I bet Americans will be all sorts of pissed that somebody else has the nerve to celebrate their military history.

Re:Medal of Honor: Cuba (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324775)

The game developers could create an extension pack called The Heart of Poisonous Ice Cream for foiling the hundreds of CIA assassination plots against Castro.

Killers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324165)

Hopefully they'll truthfully portray the "freedom fighters" as also being cold blooded murderers who tortured, raped and killed innocent people as well.

That stinking murderer castro is one of them.

Re:Killers (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324187)

That's not a nice way to talk about americans. Just because they literally redefined the word torture doesn't mean they aren't nice people!

That "stinking murderer" Castro is no worse than that "stinking murderer" Bush who you probably helped elect. Hell, you'd think for being a bloodthirsty killer, Castro would have plenty of company in your poor excuse for a country.

Re:Killers (3, Informative)

jodido (1052890) | about a year ago | (#43324601)

Name a single innocent person who was tortured, raped or killed by anyone associated with the Cuban revolution who wasn't punished severely for it. At least two Cuban soldiers in Angola were executed for raping an Angolan woman. Can your army say the same?

Re:Killers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325103)

There probably were people who were raped and then punished for it, but you only need to look at Cuba now to see it wasn't all roses. Things were bad before, things are bad now, which is typical of 95% of all revolutions, it is usually just a question of who it was bad for before and after.

Re:Killers (4, Insightful)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year ago | (#43325671)

Every single cuban citizen who has to escape in a raft suffering 90 miles of sunburn while traveling a few miles per hour hoping you make it across the Gulf stream quickly so it doesn't carry you far enough into the Atlantic that no one ever finds you. The fact that people live there make the choice to ride a raft with THEIR KIDS in what is essentially their own personal death march should be enough to answer your question.

I use common sense and the actions of the people there to draw my conclusion. You're still trying to argue which political side is right.

10% of the countries population (roughly) has been so distraught that they elected a trip thats got less than a 1% chance of survival over staying and dealing with it.

We punish our soldiers when we find them committing crimes you speak of. Its well known fact (from those who escape the country) that the Cuban army on the other hand do commit those crimes ... and you yourself give an example of them doing so.

America has its own set of issues, but its hard to believe America and Cuba are even on the same planet, putting them in the same class just makes it clear that you have no concept of what you're talking about.

Re:Killers (0)

jodido (1052890) | about a year ago | (#43326155)

"It is a well known fact"--perhaps you could provide a source? Then we'll see who knows what they're talking about. My point is that "well known facts" about Cuba in the US are 100 percent wrong. As to the rafters, they resorted to these desperate measures because the US failed to live up to its agreement to provide 20,000 visas a year to Cubans to come to the US. The US prefers rafters risking their lives to people arriving safely on airplanes, makes Cuba look worse.

Re:Killers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325001)

This may surprise you, but actual history is distinct from shrill freerepublic hyperbole.

Play to loose? (2)

Required Snark (1702878) | about a year ago | (#43324169)

Maybe there could be a following for this in the US. Right wingers could play to loose, and fulfill their fantasies about blotting Castro's Cuba out of history. Plus, if they can get it for free on the web, they could feel like they're ripping off Cuba.

I wonder if it has DRM? Is it FOSS? What does that mean in a socialist state?

Maybe the Cubans could give the game platform to Viet Nam, and they could come up with a plotline where you follow Ho Chi Min to his defeat of the imperialist US invaders. There's jungles and tropical climate in both situations, right.

In China, they could have the Long March MMOG.

On a somewhat more serious note, this is somewhat an exercise in jumping the shark. If you're at the point where you promote your history/ideology by turning it into a video game, it's ceased to be current experience, and has moved into the realm of cultural myths.

In the US, the number of people who have combat experience is dwarfed by the the ranks of the FPS gamers. The real experience of war has been eclipsed by the glamorized painless video version. It's likely that the sanitized version has displaced reality in the minds of a lot of people. This can't be a good thing.

Re:Play to loose? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324237)

Well, historical games are no different to any other kind of media. War films are just as bad for sanitising and glorifying some truely horrific pieces of history.

Re:Play to loose? (2)

dbIII (701233) | about a year ago | (#43324305)

Either way the clock here shows April 1 and some Slashdot contributiors are in this timezone.


Re:Play to loose? (1)

Lothar+0 (444996) | about a year ago | (#43324337)

America's Army was released free to the public. I would imagine this game would be as well, coming from the Ministry of Communications (which strangely does not have a website).

Cuba itself just hosted on IP conference. Here's the program [] , and here's a snippet of it:

Tuesday, March 19, 2013
9:05 - 10:30
Challenges of Protecting Intellectual Property on Social Networks (Software Industry)
Rafael Ortín, Marquez, Henriquez, Ortin & Valedon,
Slobodan Petosevic, Petosevic, Belgium

This says nothing about Cuban intellectual property law, but it indicates that they at least host conferences where foreigners talk about how software IP is a thing that needs protecting. If Cuban programming takes off as a commercial industry, will there be penalties for copyright infringement? We'll probably know when those sort of cases start coming up in Cuban courts (if they ever do). Until then, I have no idea.

FWIW, Ho died in 1969, six years before the fall of Saigon, but that might not stop some game designer from having a player assume his likeness in a similar game anyway.

Re:Play to loose? (1)

smallfries (601545) | about a year ago | (#43324383)

Obligitory grammar nitpick: surely you mean play too loose?

Re:Play to loose? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324965)

If you're at the point where you promote your history/ideology by turning it into a video game, it's ceased to be current experience, and has moved into the realm of cultural myths.>

wow wow wow, hold it right there, we weren't talking about COD!

Re:Play to loose? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43326055)

I'm going to replay the American Revolution.

And let Britain wield ALL of it's imperial firepower,,,,

are the Tropico games banded there?? (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about a year ago | (#43324193)

are the Tropico games banded there??

Re:are the Tropico games banded there?? (4, Insightful)

thewolfkin (2790519) | about a year ago | (#43324527)

was Call of Duty banned there? I thought I recalled hearing about a mission where you assassinated Fidel Castro which I thought was rather ballsy considering Castro was alive at the time and not at war with the country. That'd be like the NAACP making a game where you assassinate former President Bush.

Re:are the Tropico games banded there?? (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year ago | (#43325689)

No have no idea what the NAACP is, do you?

BS on Cuba (1)

jodido (1052890) | about a year ago | (#43324405)

For all /. who think "know all about" Cuba: check this article out. From a highly-respected source (in its time), the Associated Press. Spoiler alert--there's not a single true thing in it. []

Re:BS on Cuba (1)

Tastecicles (1153671) | about a year ago | (#43324507)

about the only thing I know about Cuba was the little spat about the Soviets wanting to place land-based nukes there in the 1960s, which almost resulted in me not being born.

Re:BS on Cuba (3, Informative)

jodido (1052890) | about a year ago | (#43324587)

Then you should also know why the missiles were there--which is that the US invaded Cuba in 1961, the invasion was crushed, but the US didn't give up and was planning to invade again in 1962 (Google "Operation Mongoose") this time with US troops instead of spoiled rich kids who thought the Cubans would welcome them back with open arms (they did "welcome" them back with arms but not the kind the country club types expected).

Re:BS on Cuba (1)

Eunuchswear (210685) | about a year ago | (#43325325)

Then you should also know why the missiles were there--which is that the US invaded Cuba in 1961

Well, from the point of view of the Cubans. From the Soviet side the reason was that the US had already installed missiles in Turkey.

The confrontation ended on October 28, 1962, when Kennedy and United Nations Secretary-General U Thant reached an agreement with Khrushchev. Publicly, the Soviets would dismantle their offensive weapons in Cuba and return them to the Soviet Union, subject to United Nations verification, in exchange for a US public declaration and agreement never to invade Cuba. Secretly, the US also agreed that it would dismantle all US-built Jupiter IRBMs, armed with nuclear warheads, which were deployed in Turkey and Italy against the Soviet Union. []

Re:BS on Cuba (1)

kermidge (2221646) | about a year ago | (#43325363)

In part, yes viz. the 'clandestine' CIA-abetted effort. Has any evidence surfaced to support the idea that Soviet Union was aware of Mongoose, though? [I don't know; if they were, then that adds to their reasons, particularly for the tac nukes.] SU was also irked at US placing IRBMs in several NATO countries, particularly Turkey, so, gander and goose. From what I recall one of the benefits to SU from placing the missiles was to not only reassure Castro but also to be better able to keep him on a leash - they were never all that happy with the relationship apart from being a thorn to the US, because Cuba cost them a lot of money and aggravation for little return - modest port rights, a small amount of some commodities, and a minor vacation spot, IIRC.

That's from memory; your post got me curious, so just read the Cuban missile crisis entry at Wikipedia. Their article is quite good. There were some things I either hadn't read before or had forgotten. (I had a selfish reason for interest on this because I lived in the D.C. area at the time, and some days it became difficult to concentrate on school.)

Re:BS on Cuba (1)

jodido (1052890) | about a year ago | (#43326169)

Of course the Soviets knew about Mongoose. Everyone in Cuba did. The only people in the world who didn't were the US public, just like the Bay of Pigs.

Glorious Revolution (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324633)

The glorious Cuban revolution continues to this day. The propaganda ads and constant near daily "celebration" of minor individuals and events is somewhat bizarre for foreigners to see. That the Cuban government has "rewritten" history to suit their vision and goals is no surprise. Neither is the fact that most Cubans, having grown up under it and exposed to this propaganda for the past 50 years, whole heartedly believe it and embrace it with a nationalistic passion not unlike; 'meruca. Fuck yea!

But, while the video game and the propaganda may bend the reality beyond any truth, the rebels did wind up forcing Batista out and remain firmly in power to this day. A single scraggly bearded PoS remains in charge even after 50 years. And, they love him!

Re:Glorious Revolution (3, Insightful)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year ago | (#43325737)

You realize when you say something stupid like 'Meruca' you instantly lose everyone in your listener group except the other idiots such as yourself with an axe to grind?

You lose any credence you had instantly and make it clear that you're not out about the truth or facts, you're out to promote your agenda.

If you actually wanted to spread truth, you wouldn't try to drag your own personal agenda into it. You end up letting everyone around you know that your 'facts' aren't trustable.

Re:Glorious Revolution (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43326277)

No, actually he loses only the Ameritards.

And they don't count anyway, since they deliberately and willfully gave up their free will and individuality, and are just mere limbs of the opinion makers that fully and completely control them. They themselves, of course, think it's "their" views that they spread. Which is really funny and really sad at the same time, if you look at it from the outside.

You are barely humans. And that is not my view. I wish you'd be great people. Hell, I still try to wake you up. But you just attack one for that. You *want* to be zombies in a walking daze like that. You actively *fight* for it. Like it's your god (aka your alter ego).

Re:BS on Cuba (1)

istartedi (132515) | about a year ago | (#43325519)

It's a shame I can't read that since I block URLs for FaceBook's widget server. I forget exactly what domain, but it's not It's some other domain that serves widgets. The reason I do that is because the JavaScript in there was defective and would sometimes go into an infinite loop. I don't know if they ever fixed that, but my pages run more smoothly without these widgets loading. What's really crazy is that the user-facing aspect of it was simply a button. A button that needs to have active code even when you haven't pushed it? That's all kind of messed up.

Re:BS on Cuba (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year ago | (#43325711)

I know without clicking the link that I'd be a moron to believe anything in it. You posted a fucking facebook link. You're a moron if you believe anything posted to a facebook link is true in the first place.

Could like to a trusted source, but I know its tainted already so the trusted source is irrelevant.

Its like posting 'proof' that black people are (insert racial remark here) and then as your proof, quoting the KKK newsletter. It just makes you look stupid.

Hammer Time! (0)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about a year ago | (#43324551)

FPS game recreation of the crucifixion of Christ. Can't touch this!

Impressed / Curious (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324579)

So, I'm impressed and curious. Under embargo, and let's not forget severe economic hardship, Cuba should not have access to much or the latest technology. Though there does not appear to be a major shortage of Windows machines, where they can be afforded. None the less, Cuba doesn't have an environment where I would expect to find an advanced development community.

Compared to the latest games in the U.S. this one looks somewhat crude, perhaps a few years/generations old. But, it hardly looks primitive or home grown. My suspicion is that it is based on a preexisting engine. Perhaps something that was released to the public like the Source, or more likely, Quake engines.

Does anyone know what this is based on?

Re:Impressed / Curious (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325145)

Cuba used to claim to have the best reverse engineering industry in the world, because the embargo meant that they had to break the licensing code on any commercial software they wanted to use.

Re:Impressed / Curious (0)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year ago | (#43325781)

They are under embargo by the US. That doesn't mean the entire world. Getting things into because of the US embargo isn't an issue. The embargo is just something lots of people like to use as an excuse for why Cuba is such a shit hole under Castro(s).

Last year, 188 members of the UN voted on a resolution condemning the US embargo against Cuba. The largest vote EVER in the UN.

While the US pulls in SOME other nations to embargo cuba via treaties we have with other nations, there are countries in the world which aren't governed by those treaties and have absolutely no problem at all shipping whatever you want to Cuba ... Now the fact that the country is a shit hole due to its leaders means those people still probably won't get what you shipped them, but hey, lets not let facts get in the way.

The fact of the matter is simple. The embargo against Cuba isn't really doing shit, we are but one country and the rest of the world doesn't share our opinion and doesn't follow are embargo ... yet Cuba is still a shit hole and people like you are too ignorant to realize why.

This is news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43324967)


Murderous Marxist Madmen come to power and State sponsored programmers make a video game.

Our education system is sorely lacking if this is what we find newsworthy.

Re:This is news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325037)

Yeah, better Murderous Reaganite Madmen crowing over Call of Duty 17.

NES (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325171)

Why wait for this when you can already experience the glorious revolution in NES format! (or the revolution in glorious NES format, if you prefer).

Also thanks captcha for making me type in "pervert" to prove my identity. I think I have some tin foil here somewhere...

Che Guevara was a virulent racist. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325273)

I'm sure his fanboys will make excuses, but here are the words of Che Guevara:

"The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a new kind of slave: the Portuguese."

"The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving, which has pursued him as far as this corner of America and drives him to advance himself, even independently of his own individual aspirations."

Re:Che Guevara was a virulent racist. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43325551)

Sounds very Catholic, yes...

Just what we need, more historical revisionism (3, Informative)

Python (1141) | about a year ago | (#43326115)

Oh boy, I sure hope this game lets you blind fold and shoot people that didnt go along with the glorious Cuban revolution! []

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