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Nintendo To Cancel Weather, News, and Other Built-In Wii Apps In June

Soulskill posted 1 year,3 days | from the end-of-life dept.

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damn_registrars writes "Nintendo has announced that at the end of June it will be canceling the services of several of the channels that are built in to the original Wii, including the Weather, News, Everybody Votes, and Mii Contest. This will also affect the WiiConnect24 services, though should not affect the Wii shopping channel. They added: 'Exchange of Wii messages on the Wii Message Board, exchange of Mii characters on the Mii Channel and message/data exchange within some games will be disabled.'"

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#dealwithit (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433493)

this is the future of gaming if the publishers get their way.

Re:#dealwithit (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433987)

Sad... this wouldn't have happened if Sony had been harmed by removing OtherOS. This is really going to piss my daughter off, she's a gaming nut and a weather nut.

Re:#dealwithit (4, Informative)

Golddess (1361003) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434389)

this wouldn't have happened if Sony had been harmed by removing OtherOS.

Why is that? This is more like Sony turning off the servers for $multiplayer_game than it is them removing OtherOS.

Not saying it's right, only that it is a different scenario.

Is Nintendo starting to close up shop? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433521)

Looks like it

Re:Is Nintendo starting to close up shop? (2)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433923)

They're removing services for an outdated and redundant console- this is far from closing up shop (in fact, based on the article, the shop is specifically left open!)

Currently and regrettably, they're following the same trend that many publishers are- with the new and improved version out, they're shuttering the old one. Who needs all this on the Wii when the Wii U is out? Thankfully these functions were little more than a novelty anyway rather than an actual game, but this is the reality of the world we live in now. We can't keep servers running forever for outdated things- and the difference between this and what EA usually does is, these services were up and around a lot longer, heh.

I'm interested in the Wii U, but until more actual interesting games are on it I'll be passing, but the DS had a similarly slow start and ended up being probably my favorite gaming device of all time. We'll see what happens here.

Irony Captcha: Perishes

Re:Is Nintendo starting to close up shop? (5, Insightful)

neurojab (15737) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434043)

Outdated? You could still buy a new Wii through normal retail channels in 2012 (maybe you still can). Less than a year of support is the standard now? That's shameful. Not that I know anyone who uses a wii for news and weather, but still.

Re:Is Nintendo starting to close up shop? (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434155)

Perhaps outdated was a poor choice of words- but the console was released almost 7 years ago, and those services not TOO long after. While I can see where you're coming from with "less than a year of support", I believe that's slightly disingenuous, given the many years of life these services have had. And beyond that, the Wii U performs MOST of the functions the Wii did, plus many extra (Only backwards compatible hardware of this generation, possibly- we don't know for sure with the Xbox 720.)

Don't get me wrong- I'm not happy about this, I wasted more time than I care to admit just spinning the globe on the weather channel, but all the same I find it hard to be surprised about this. All in all I'm more upset that this has become such an industry trend, which is why I hesitate to buy games that are focused on online multiplayer.

Re:Is Nintendo starting to close up shop? (-1)

Lumpy (12016) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434095)

You are interested in a Wii U yet you call the Wii outdated...

You do realize the Wii U is simply a Wii with 720p and a overpriced external screen that does nothing except show you what is on the TV.
I was going to get one until I realized it offered nothing at all over the Wii.

Re:Is Nintendo starting to close up shop? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434209)

I realize outdated may have been a poor choice of words- perhaps outright "old" in console years, then.

And quite frankly I don't give a damn what sort of definition I can get out of it. While great and crisp graphics are a welcome and wonderful thing, I'm far more interested in the gameplay. As for the external screen... well, I'm torn regarding that. What I see and what I've been expecting from Nintendo suggest that they're slowly trying to blend the console and handheld market, especially with the 3DS interactivity they have planned. It's an interesting move in this age of tablets.

Re:Is Nintendo starting to close up shop? (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434297)

Ugh. Forgive me, I misread your post, Lumpy, regarding definition. The point is I know it's not an overly powerful console. It's still a step up from the Wii, but I don't and never have bought Nintendo for specs. I prefer using computers for most games that need more power than the Wii/Wii U can put out, which is why I haven't invested in the PS3/4, or the Xbox.

Re:Is Nintendo starting to close up shop? (2)

scot4875 (542869) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434215)

It's funny that there are plenty of legitimate gripes about the Wii U, but you fail to mention any of them.

--Jeremy

Re:Is Nintendo starting to close up shop? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434269)

How quaint. You want a console's potential to be 100% realized by game devs on launch day.

You self-entitled little twat. Go back to CoD.

Re:Is Nintendo starting to close up shop? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434341)

You are interested in a Wii U yet you call the Wii outdated...

You do realize the Wii U is simply a Wii with 720p and a overpriced external screen that does nothing except show you what is on the TV.

By which you mean a Wii with a better CPU and GPU, 1080p, and an external screen that can act independently of what's shown on the TV [wikipedia.org], right? I know, I know, it's a common mistake to get absolutely everything wrong. Must be your crippling Alzheimer's.

Bro, do you even troll?

Re:Is Nintendo starting to close up shop? (5, Funny)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434573)

You do realize* the Wii U is simply a Wii

With an updated CPU and GPU and a lot more RAM.

with 720p

1080p.

and an overpriced

Says you.

external screen that does nothing except show you what is on the TV

...or anything else the system wants to show, and is also an input device.

I was going to get one until I realized it offered nothing at all over the Wii.

It may not offer enough for you, but it's just being churlish to suggest that that equates to "nothing." You sound like Grandpa Simpson when he said that a fax machine is nothing but a waffle iron with a phone attached.

did people really use them? (5, Insightful)

alen (225700) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433523)

i had a wii years ago and after setting these up out f curiosity i never used these services
the GUI for anything but gaming is pretty limited by the controller

For that matter... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433619)

...Are people even using the Wii U? For the months of November and December of last year you couldn't walk into any retail store without someone asking about the Wii U, seeing a sign up stating that they were either ordering in stock or just freshly out... Since then I haven't heard a thing. Haven't seen an ad, haven't heard a review of a launch title, nothing. I don't know why, Nintendo decided to do things differently with the Wii and they had great success with it...and after all that time they've decided to try and compete with Sony and Microsoft again? Did they actually expect it to work?

Re:For that matter... (3)

Applekid (993327) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433711)

I'm just anecdotal evidence, but I have always seen plenty of WiiU boxes on the floor at my local Best Buy. I don't think sales have been as brisk as they've hoped, and I personally believe there intentionally poor distribution to cause the illusion of shortages to defend the poor sales. Anyone who wanted one could pick up a phone and discover there was a stack of them here.

I recall when the Wii was released, no matter who you called, nobody had it.

Re:For that matter... (2)

frosty_tsm (933163) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434245)

I recall when the Wii was released, no matter who you called, nobody had it.

Not just right around launch time, but for over a year.

Re:For that matter... (2, Interesting)

PRMan (959735) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433777)

They need some games. If Nintendo can come out with exclusives like Mario Kart and Zelda and Super Mario Galaxy for Wii U, then it will start to take off. Right now, the only great game is Mario. Everything else is just OK to poor.

They may succeed yet if Microsoft and Sony continue in their game console missteps, but I'm betting that Ouya takes off in a big way.

Re:For that matter... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433847)

Nearly everything heard about the PS4 has been good. Lack of backwards compatibility is the only negative that comes to mind right now, but this is due to a switch to x86-64, a decision that will be very beneficial down the line.

Re:For that matter... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434125)

I just wish it was not a half baked platform. The big display remotes should be seperate screens so that Mario Kart would have the Big TV a overhead display and the remote is your driving display, or, status information control display with a 4 split screen on the big TV..

Re:For that matter... (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434131)

I'm hoping that they do succeed to be honest, if only for the sake of offering people an alternative...if even one choice disappears in the game industry, there aren't many left to choose from. I don't know that Nintendo's own exclusives would save the system though... Look at the exclusives the system actually -has-:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wii_U_games [wikipedia.org]

Mario Kart, Mario 3D, Game Wario (related in a married-your-cousin sort of way I suppose)...and some of the most popular titles for the system are for the Virtual Console, which isn't really a selling point.
"You can buy all your favourite games again for the new system!"
"And why wouldn't I just plug the old system in?"
"...PROFIT!"
"...or for that matter not pay $300 for your console and just play the games on my laptop with an emul..."
"PROFIT!!!"

In fact I would argue that "PROFIT" is exactly what the real problem with the Wii U is -- ZombiU costs something like $60 here. Granted, games like Far Cry and Halo 4 don't do much to justify their prices beyond looking really good, but that's not the point... Even I would consider buying the Wii U and the games if they were both realistically priced. Asking people to pay pre-order prices for games that aren't that good upon launch isn't the best way to get your console flying off the shelves. If the Wii U was around $100 and the games around $20, I wouldn't be here posting this because I'd be off playing their games!

Re:For that matter... (1)

stillpixel (1575443) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433899)

Actually, we have one. It is our first gaming console..

We waiting until our kids were old enough to handle the responsibility. My son plays Lego Star Wars games as much as we allow it, my daughter plays her Hello Kitty game and we all like to play Just Dance 4 (also a good way for sedentary types to get up and burn some calories).

Re:For that matter... (1, Interesting)

TWiTfan (2887093) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434141)

My local Gamestop had a WiiU kiosk up recently. All that was playable on it was some version of Mario that looked exactly like the old 80's era Mario. I played it for a few minutes and was decidedly underwhelmed. I'm not sure if this was due to their ill-advised choice of software for their kiosk or just because the novelty of the second screen wore off a lot faster than the sense that the actual controller was very awkward in my hands. Maybe they have some great new games coming for it in the future. But I imagine that by the time they get here, I'll already own a PS4 or Xbox 720.

Re:did people really use them? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433819)

well the thing is what is puzzling me is that aren't they still supplying these services for the wii-u? how much can it cost them to keep electricity going on the apps??

Re:did people really use them? (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433997)

well the thing is what is puzzling me is that aren't they still supplying these services for the wii-u?

Yes. As in, "If you still want these services, go buy a Wii U." I'm reminded of when Microsoft cut off the original XBox from XBox Live.

Re:did people really use them? (1)

Golddess (1361003) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434595)

well the thing is what is puzzling me is that aren't they still supplying these services for the wii-u?

Yes.

More like no.

The apps were already unavailable in the Wii U's backwards compatibility mode

So unless they are floating around somewhere in standard Wii U mode, they are not providing, and according to TFA, have never provided, those services for the Wii U.

Re:did people really use them? (4, Interesting)

sootman (158191) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433865)

I had a surprisingly good time spinning the globe and looking at weather around the world, and zooming in and out and learning a little geography along the way. I spent a good amount of time with it, to be honest. That was the great thing about it -- it was just a really nice 3D-ish/VR-ish globe that you could zoom in and out of, like Google Maps, and the weather was a hook or a bonus. That said, the Wii has spent the last few years in a kid's room so I haven't been on it much since the first few months after Christmas all those years ago.

The apps are already built and they just need a source of data -- I wish they'd partner with Yahoo or someone and keep them going. The older kid just moved out and the Wii just made its triumphant return to the living room. I'm genuinely sad about this news. I'm not, like, all broken up about it, but it's like when a show you like gets cancelled, or when the lead singer of a band dies.

Re:did people really use them? (4, Interesting)

AngryNick (891056) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434717)

I'm genuinely sad about this news

My kids will be crushed, especially with the Mii contest going away. The spend as much time inventing and sharing Miis as they do playing the games.

Re:did people really use them? (1)

wierd_w (1375923) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434021)

I noticed that if you hook up the classic pad, you can control the pointer with the thumbsticks.

If you were put off by the GUI interface's pointer requiring you to aim the wiimote at the screen, this might alleviate the developer strain involved.

Considering that the Wii is totally a hacker's paradise now (threat of new, crippling firmware is basically officially over) and that it has good USB2.0 ports on the back, and a fairly mature homebrew toolchain, I would think that this is the starting shot to see lots of stuff for the console come out.

I would laugh hysterically if the Wii has a rebirth from the very software Nintendo tried so desperately to stamp out.

Re:did people really use them? (1)

synapse7 (1075571) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434151)

I like the wii for the virtual console and the ability to play gamecube games. I also use it to play movies from a netbook running xubuntu acting as a nas. I actually use the weather service from time to time, I thought it was nice but dated compared to xmbc. If you gave me a wiiU the old wii would probably still see more use in my case.

Re:did people really use them? (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434287)

I was using it for a while to browse news while eating cereal in the mornings. This was before I got a smartphone or tablet. It was slow as hell, though that was likely due at least in part to the slow connection. I usually finished eating by the time it loaded.

Re:did people really use them? (2)

togofspookware (464119) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434741)

Same here. I would always pour myself an especially large bowl of cereal and then turn on Wii World News. It had nice music for relaxing in the morning.

Re:did people really use them? (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434369)

Sure, but this is the beginning of the end, and not just for the Wii but for the 360 and PS3 as well. For now it's just some data channels, but soon the servers for online multiplayer will go and so will the DRM servers for all the games you bought through the various online stores. Maybe they will be kind and let you continue to play them offline, but if your Wii ever dies you won't be able to re-download the stuff you paid for.

Translation ... (4, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433541)

Since nobody actually uses these things, we're turning them off.

Back when I had a Wii, in order to get these network services, you essentially had to set the device to never turn off. And that was something I deemed as pointless and a waste of power.

And, really, who needs to get the weather and news on the Wii?

But, somehow everybody seems to keep acting as if the game console is going to become your internet hub.

Re:Translation ... (1)

Synerg1y (2169962) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433605)

and then you got the idiots who are saying that Nintendo is dying and closing up shop as a result of cutting these services... that I 100% agree nobody uses. Articles like this just bring out the trolls.

Re:Translation ... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433631)

Articles like this just bring out the trolls

It's Slashdot -- there's always trolls, it doesn't matter what the article is. :-P

Re:Translation ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433613)

That's because the Xbox 360 and PS3 actually have good internet services, particularly with DLNA support.

Re:Translation ... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433729)

That's because the Xbox 360 and PS3 actually have good internet services, particularly with DLNA support.

Hmmm, if this [wikipedia.org] is DLNA, then I'm not interested.

I'll handle my own digital files without help from Sony thanks, because Sony won't have been interested in what I want, just what they want. And I don't care what Sony wants, not even a little.

And when XBox 360 started to put ads in games and the home screen -- my XBox got disconnected from the internet and will never be connected again. It sounds like I won't be buying an XBox 720 at all because of the networking requirements.

Networking on these devices eventually becomes either a marketing tool, or a way to restrict how you use your console. If I want to watch YouTube, I have other devices which still connect to my network.

Re:Translation ... (1)

Andy Dodd (701) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433829)

Um, DLNA is, specifically, for working with your own digital files.

Example:
PS3 as a MythTV frontend due to MythTV's ability to act as a DLNA server
PS3 streaming video files from a PC if you have a PC-based DLNA server such as MediaTomb installed
(less common case) - Bring an Android device with some media to a friends' house, fire up Skifta on it, and serve up that media to a friend's PS3.

Why only DLNA and not also SMB? (0)

tepples (727027) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433981)

Um, DLNA is, specifically, for working with your own digital files.

Then why don't more devices that support DLNA stream playback also support stream playback over the SMB protocol? Is it because they think Nintendo and Sega jointly own exclusive rights in anything with the same initials as Super Mario Bros. and Super Monkey Ball?

Re:Why only DLNA and not also SMB? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434533)

Because fuck Samba.

Re:Translation ... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434163)

PS3 as a inferior MythTV frontend compared to a $39.00 Raspberry Pi.

No thanks, I'll buy the superior Raspberry Pi for media consumption from MythTV and XBMC.

If you've already bought a PS3 to play PS3 games (1)

tepples (727027) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434661)

PS3 as a inferior MythTV frontend compared to a $39.00 Raspberry Pi.

If you've already bought a PS3 to play PS3 games, then its inferior MythTV frontend costs $0.00 extra. A Raspberry Pi, on the other hand, costs $39.00 extra plus shipping.

Re:Translation ... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433851)

DLNA is just DRM on top of UPnP, if you don't want to use it, that's fine, but it is your loss, it's freaking awesome. There is no easier to way to set up streaming from a non-techie's computer right onto their XBox 360 or PS3. Even for techies it's a no brainer.

Stuck at a desk (1)

tepples (727027) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434019)

So you've disconnected your video game consoles from the Internet due to ads and other garbage that the console makers have foisted on you.

If I want to watch YouTube, I have other devices which still connect to my network.

Are these "other devices" connected to displays the size of a living room TV, or are they stuck on a 19-23" desktop computer monitor? I'm told [slashdot.org] there aren't a lot of people willing to hook a PC up to a TV. Or has this changed recently?

Re:Stuck at a desk (1)

gstoddart (321705) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434183)

Are these "other devices" connected to displays the size of a living room TV

Several of them can display onto my 55" HDTV, some of them have their own display. There's shockingly little on YouTube or anywhere else I'd need on something bigger than my 24" computer screen, but if I need to I can.

If I wanted to, I could probably buy a long HDMI cable and display my computer to that screen as well.

I'm told there aren't a lot of people willing to hook a PC up to a TV. Or has this changed recently?

I have no idea what "a lot of people" are doing, and I'd venture to guess that probably 50% of the world population ("A lot of people") owns neither a PC nor a TV and couldn't possibly care about this.

I haven't yet found a good enough reason to buy a 30' HDMI cable to hook my PC up to my TV, and from arms length, my computer monitor fills most of my field of view anyway.

Re:Stuck at a desk (1)

scot4875 (542869) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434425)

Are these "other devices" connected to displays the size of a living room TV, or are they stuck on a 19-23" desktop computer monitor?

If 19-23" is good enough for the user, then probably. If not, they've probably hooked it up to a larger display. Why does somebody else's use case for media consumption matter to you?

--Jeremy

Audience members' use case for viewing works (1)

tepples (727027) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434645)

If 19-23" is good enough for the user, then probably. If not, they've probably hooked it up to a larger display.

I've noticed a correlation: a small monitor for small budget works and a large monitor for large budget works. Producers of large budget works tend to have more marketing money to get into the walled gardens (BD and Netflix for movies, console app stores for games) supported by devices marketed for connecting to large screens. It's easier to view small budget works on PCs, but PCs are generally not marketed for connecting to large screens.

Why does somebody else's use case for media consumption matter to you?

Somebody else's use case for viewing works would matter to a producer of works because a producer has to reach the audience on devices that the audience already owns.

Re:Translation ... (1)

EvilSS (557649) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433627)

Yea, I don't think there is an evil scientist cackling over killing a beloved feature in the background here. If it was popular, I can't see them killing it.

Re:Translation ... (1)

Applekid (993327) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433785)

Since nobody actually uses these things, we're turning them off.

Back when I had a Wii, in order to get these network services, you essentially had to set the device to never turn off. And that was something I deemed as pointless and a waste of power.

And, really, who needs to get the weather and news on the Wii?

But, somehow everybody seems to keep acting as if the game console is going to become your internet hub.

They're just glorified RSS readers. How much does it really cost to maintain them? How many new functionality changes are they expecting? Are we planning to discover a new type of weather or something?

It smacks of Nintendo being a little bit of a tightwad over it, especially considering that anyone going out of their way to use a Wii to get this information is more aware of it and more likely to play a game on it, too.

Re:Translation ... (2, Informative)

gstoddart (321705) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433901)

Well, the contrary point is the Wii is now 6+ years old, which means they're starting to wind it down.

Nintendo is hardly the first company to do that.

Apple dropped support for the original iPad after barely 2 years (much to my nuisance), people find themselves with phones that don't get updates any more, the Sega and Amiga platforms don't really exist any more, and I'm sure lots of video games have stopped working when the company pulls the servers.

Technology ages, companies decide they don't want to spend the money on the infrastructure any more. I just can't see these network services either being revenue streams or being overly popular/critical.

At a certain point, this kind of thing is pretty much expected. If they were giving up revenue, I'd be surprised, but it sounds more like what happens as the technology ages.

Somehow, I bet if you'd looked at usage for these services, they've probably been flat or declining, at which point why should Nintendo keep it running in perpetuity?

Re:Translation ... (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434335)

Back when I had a Wii, in order to get these network services, you essentially had to set the device to never turn off. And that was something I deemed as pointless and a waste of power.

And at least some models suffered from the disc drive spinning constantly when it was in standby mode and burning out, so you didn't want to leave it on with a disc in. Really made the power button on the remote useful.

Re:Translation ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434549)

"But, somehow everbody seems to keep acting as if the game console is going to become your internet hub."

Including Nintendo you mean? What with the Nintendo Network, the eShop, Miiverse, Nintendo TVii for the Netflix crowd...

If you haven't noticed already, every console company _INCLUDING_ Nintendo is trying to turn their system into an Internet hub. If "everybody seems to keep acting" that way, it's probably because the company selling the thing TOLD THEM IT WOULD.

Re:Translation ... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434643)

If you haven't noticed already, every console company _INCLUDING_ Nintendo is trying to turn their system into an Internet hub.

Of course the console makers want that to be true, because they all want an internet connected device to be a gold mine of revenue.

But, ask yourself, if it was successful and profitable, would Nintendo be closing this service?

This to me sounds like either usage of the Wii is declining so much nobody uses it on the internet, or the actual usage of the Wii us just as good as ever, but people don't care about the on-line stuff. But the take-away is that apparently the on-line stuff for the Wii isn't currently popular enough to keep it going.

Of course, if I knew the answer to those questions, I wouldn't be telling Slashdot for free -- I'd be collecting huge consulting fees from the game industry.

Netcraft confirms it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433547)

Wii is dying. Or something.

Letter from Nintendo (2)

binarylarry (1338699) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433549)

Dear Loyal Customers,

Fuck U

Waaahaa!,
Nintendo

Re:Letter from Nintendo (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433683)

You'd be pretty hard pressed to find a not-insignificant amount of "loyal customers" using any of those features anymore, if they ever did in the first place.

Hell, even the 3DS allows you to export Miis via QR code instead of via a dedicated service.

Re:Letter from Nintendo (1)

i kan reed (749298) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434065)

Are you saying you use weather, news, and everybody votes? I get that there must be somebody who does, but do you?

Weather App (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433557)

I liked the weather app on the Wii....

But, how odd when you still have the Wii console on sale in retail store shelves and you're ending support?

It seems like they are pulling the plug a bit early.

Life in a connected world (2)

prelelat (201821) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433565)

I've sold my wii probably 3 years ago I wasn't playing it but those were features that I once enjoyed. I'm disappointed that as a console reaches it's end of life that the company can just go and switch off services for it. I know these are added features that don't hinder game play but it still seems like they are taking something people have paid for away. I realize that online services can be costly but this disconnection seems premature. The WiiU only came out at the end of last year and 6 months later they are starting to abandon services on the previous one. That's a shame. In this case I think how Microsoft supports it's products is better. Give it and end of life time frame like their OS's get. Maybe I missed the news but it seems rather abrupt to me and rather soon after the release of the WiiU.

Re:Life in a connected world (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433611)

Welcome to the future... Retrogaming is going to become a very different beast. I'm assuming that it's going to be remastered respins that are downloaded for the PS4 and PS5 and whatever, when you fire up your Xbox360 or ps3 in 7 years, it may not work anymore.

Should've waited for all first party games (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433599)

I haven't gotten a Wii U --- still waiting on a Zelda or a Metroid which I'd actually want to play (I want a motion-controlled or IR pointer game like Skyward Sword or Metroid Prime Trilogy) --- Nintendo could at least put this off until all of their fanbase has been serviced.

So essentially on June 28, 2013..... (0)

doubledown00 (2767069) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433699)

.....the Wii becomes a Nintendo branded door stop / boat anchor.

Good ole Nintendo, showing once again that the "fuck you, pay me!" business model is for pussies.

Re:So essentially on June 28, 2013..... (3, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433763)

Or, you know, people could still use it to, oh let's see ... play games?

I doubt that the networking features are the most used aspects of these consoles.

Re:So essentially on June 28, 2013..... (-1, Troll)

doubledown00 (2767069) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433811)

Or, you know, people could still use it to, oh let's see ... play games?

I doubt that the networking features are the most used aspects of these consoles.

Use a console to actually play a game?? Who the hell does that anymore? If I can't use it to surf facebook while checking CNN and controlling my home security system, I ain't interested.

(Satire, true. A shame, maybe. None the less your point is an antiquated view of the current state and direction of consoles)

Re:So essentially on June 28, 2013..... (5, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434059)

None the less your point is an antiquated view of the current state and direction of consoles

Not antiquated, just different from yours.

I won't connect a game console to the internet, because that brings absolutely no benefit to me that I've been able to discover.

The XBox and EA have shown me the future of network connected gaming consoles, and it involves advertisements and DRM.

I don't play any on-line games because I don't want to, because I have no need to have my ass handed to me by a 9 year old, and because I only game a little.

You can feel free to provide an advertising platform, an opportunity to monetize all aspects of game play, and have EA tell you how and when you can use your video game, not to mention the trove of personal information they probably tie to your online account.

But they've already demonstrated that networking quickly turns into a negative feature. I'm not paying full price for a game and paying for my internet connection so they can put ads into the game console. I value my privacy and peace a little more than that. MS and EA already showed me that it's all about them and maximizing revenues, not giving me the best gaming experience.

In fact, I don't believe a single one of my friends has their XBox of PS3 connected to their network. Either because they've got modded consoles, don't want to see ads, or don't play games online.

Re:So essentially on June 28, 2013..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433871)

It floats, so no boat anchor.

Slashdot isn't enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433753)

We're going to need a more specialized news site focusing on these kinds of announcements once the "always on[line]" ball really gets rolling!

Welcome to the cloud (5, Insightful)

green1 (322787) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433807)

I see various posts on here talking about how nobody used those features, or how this is normal EOL, or even berating Nintendo for doing this. But this is not an issue specific to the Wii, Nintendo, or even to consoles in general. This is the future of cloud based computing combined with locked down devices.

As long as we allow the manufacturers of devices (whether it be a gaming console, a tablet, a phone, or even a desktop PC) to control what software we run and what services we connect to, we do not own the device. The manufacturer does, and they can (and have repeatedly proven they will) remove features at their whim.

Unfortunately people haven't learned from the many, many examples in the past, and they keep lining up to thrown money at companies who are actively hostile toward their user base. Until that stops, nothing will change.

If you want ANY feature on a device, you better be sure that you have enough control of the device, and of the service supporting it, that the manufacturer can't remove it, because if they can, they will. It's only a question of when.

Re:Welcome to the cloud (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434221)

I totally agree. Apple removed some of my favorite features of iTunes in version 11 and it really pissed me off. I'm going to go back to iTunes 10. Why not just have an admin checkbox and have it off by default - letting me choose if I want to turn it back on? Why remove features altogether just because they assume nobody's using them? Stupid reasoning. I may be one of the few people who enjoys using the Wii apps mentioned - and my kids do too. I would be bummed if they removed them.

Re:Welcome to the cloud (2)

phantomfive (622387) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434301)

Note that this is a problem of closed source in general (notice the sibling post complaining about iTunes, which is not a cloud app). The cloud only makes it worse and more obvious.

If you don't have the source, you are giving up control. That might be worth it to you, but you should know what you are giving up.

Re:Welcome to the cloud (3, Insightful)

neminem (561346) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434467)

It's only a problem with software that doesn't live in your butt [github.com] if that software requires you to phone in, or has an auto-update feature that you can't disable. Otherwise, while sure you might not have complete control over its behavior, you *can* at least guarantee that it will always have the *same* behavior... why I don't like software that silently auto-updates, instead of at least prompting.

Irritating (1)

Eravnrekaree (467752) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433827)

It is irritating to hear of companies doing this because basically they do it just to disrupt someones routine. These services cost the company very little to operate as they were being run on a cloud where where they consume insubstaintial resources and only when the services are actually used. Its hard to believe they will save anything from this.

Re:Irritating (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434405)

These services cost the company very little to operate

Define "very little"... I'm curious as to the cost and it appears you are in the know about it...

How Much Does It Cost? (1)

TheNinjaroach (878876) | 1 year,3 days | (#43433915)

How much does it cost for Nintendo to leave these services running? I hope they at least push an update to the OS so it doesn't show errors / blacked out squares on the screen where these features used to exist.

I miss the days of having consoles that didn't have retroactive feature loss.

Re:How Much Does It Cost? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434085)

Lets say it costs 1 dollar.

That is 1 dollar less that they can use for something else.

The amount of good will that dollar would buy though... That is a different story...

Who's news was it anyway? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433941)

I never much trusted the wii news channel. There was virtually never any Canadian news (where I live) and always gobs of fluffy US entertainment news. It didn't take long to realize my interests were being decided for me.

fp !doLl? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43433955)

sptagnant. AS Linux on slashdot.org

PRIORITIES! (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434049)

Johnathan Winters died.

Get some PRIORITIES, Man!

"Nintendo to cancel weather, news" (4, Funny)

SkimTony (245337) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434089)

For a moment, I seriously wondered whether they could do that. But if anyone could cancel the weather, and the news, it'd probably be Nintendo.

Re:"Nintendo to cancel weather, news" (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434253)

I know I'd buy their Wii Upgrade if it came with weather control. The ability to stop the news would be nice also, but I'd be happy with the weather control.

"Thanks to some troublemaker with a Wii, the weather forecast for this week is mid 70's with continual light snowfall."

Boo. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434185)

including the Weather, News, Everybody Votes, and Mii Contest.

I loved making goofy little miis for this, it was one of the few reasons I turned on my wii from time to time.
Especially since a lot of the software the wii had would put miis in the background, and I'd rather see mine than some other boring one, so the contest thing was extra incentive for doing such.

One Nice Thing About the Wii (1)

Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434501)

One nice thing about the Wii was the free multiplayer gaming; no subscription to xbox live or any such. Granted the game play was a little less stellar than other consoles, but you could still play COD online with no hassle. I hope that isn't being killed along with the rest of this.

Re:One Nice Thing About the Wii (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,3 days | (#43434739)

The PS3 also has free online Multiplayer. Also, you can get real versions of COD not the watered down wii versions.

Soooo... anything important? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434519)

The cynic in me would say "Gee, why not the shopping channel? Guess everything but 'buy more crap' gets the axe", but then again, yes, that's pretty much it. Shopping channel may make a dime or two, but the rest ... who needs it? Weather channel? Flip the TV channel over to the one that is actually relevant for you, where's the need for a weather channel on a Wii? Same goes for news and the rest, you can't even argue that you lose anything that you didn't already have in another way, essentially, it was surplus.

It's fascinating how people start yammering about the sky falling and the Wii being retired. Well, considering how old it is, maybe it's about time to do just that, but so far I can't see anything pointing towards Nintendo dropping the Wii altogether. Where it's pretty much common that servers get shut down and games, not just some braindead service with very limited use, games you bought and paid for, become "retired", forced out of your hands, it's quite odd that people complain about Nintendo shutting off some service you didn't even pay for explicitly (unless someone really wants to claim that this was the feature why they bought the Wii... please, say that with a straight face!).

Great (1)

MICHICAUST (732976) | 1 year,3 days | (#43434753)

So I can return my old Wii and get a full refund? I mean, with Nintento willingly crippling it and disabling features I've paid for?
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