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Samsung Accused of Paying For Negative HTC Reviews

timothy posted about a year ago | from the now-that's-not-kosher dept.

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judgecorp writes "Samsung Taiwan has been accused of paying to have negative reviews of HTC products put online by students who recommended Samsung devices instead. The Taiwanese Fair Trade Commission is investigating Samsung's advertising agency in Taiwan, and Samsung Taiwan has responded by cancelling all Internet marketing."

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Android (-1, Flamebait)

Querrilla (2898723) | about a year ago | (#43463583)

This is, actually, normal behaviour from phone manufacturers who use Android as OS. There is tons of competition in the area and put blatantly, Android based setups cant stand out for favour that easily. This makes all the manufacturers play dirty, just like Google does. Don't be evil, my ass.

Re:Android (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43463683)

Android as OS

Are you really that high? Or did Samsung sponsor that? Please don't mod me as a troll, have some common sense!
captcha is "surreal"

Re:Android (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43463817)

Just ignore him. He's an MS / anti-Google shill.
- Account created today? CHECK!
- Gets several 'first posts'? CHECK!
- Praises MS (as he did in an earlier thread) or takes shots at Google? CHECK!

This place has turned into a shill slum.

Re:Android (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464819)

I guess only the Google shills are nerd-approved, huh?

Re:Android (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43468993)

dude get over yourself, microsoft wouldn't give a toss about slashdot comments. its just trolling and hilariously it works every time, just try it, put up an anti-google comment in all the stories in the firehose and watch what happens in the stories that get published. the responses will be filled with posts from people like you who actually think they are exposing microsoft "shills", even though this comment really has nothing to do with microsoft and was more a defence of samsung.

Re:Android (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464767)

Not hight, just a microsoft shill. He's been spending all day getting first post and vomiting bs.

Re:Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43463879)

1) if you're going to be swinging accusations like that around.
2) If that's true, then you'd see the exact same things from Windows computer manufacturers and Microsoft. (and MS has been proven to pay for bad press for its competitors already - this post is probably one of those)

Re:Android (4, Insightful)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year ago | (#43463897)

This is, actually, normal behaviour from phone manufacturers who use Android as OS. There is tons of competition in the area and put blatantly, Android based setups cant stand out for favour that easily. This makes all the manufacturers play dirty, just like Google does. Don't be evil, my ass.

I wouldn't blame Google for for the work of a few minions of another company.

Reviews are the new lies, though. There's a Brooklyn camera/technology distributor, which routinely has glowing reviews in an online rating service, which seem to utterly fly in the face of many extremely negative reviews. Having briefly interacted with the company I see where the negatives are coming from and from reading the glowing reviews realize there's too much similarity, further, customers have accused them of being encouraged with gifts to leave not just positive reviews, but very positive ones. Further, they do quite a bit to try to have the negatives deleted or discredited. Scared me off so I bought my camera stuff elsewhere.

What we need is a reviewer review site.

...and then a reviewer reviiwer review site...

Re:Android (2)

Synerg1y (2169962) | about a year ago | (#43464111)

Just thought I'd mention that manufacturing and marketing have very little to do with each other.

See: [] there's a reason this cartoon is so popular (it's mostly true & hilarious).

Re:Android (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year ago | (#43467461)

Just thought I'd mention that manufacturing and marketing have very little to do with each other.

See: [] there's a reason this cartoon is so popular (it's mostly true & hilarious).

This cartoon is a lot older than you may think. I saw a copy, not including analysts or programmers, very much like this hanging around Dow Chemical back in the 1970s when I was a scout and we had a trip to a lab there.

Re:Android (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464159)

Cough Cough B&W Cough Cough

Re:Android (5, Informative)

Cito (1725214) | about a year ago | (#43464087)

I can vouch for that, I signed up for a cash for review service, I get $2 for making positive Android reviews and occasional $3 for Samsung reviews. It pays similar to how bulk email spamming pays, course that's like 25 cents per hundred thousand or more depending on product being spammed.

if people are interested here is a "top 12 list" of companies that will pay you to review products, apps, os, etc. []

every review either video, or written product review you post link, it gets verified and part of your account stats,

most places works similar to adsense on payouts. minimum of $100.00 in the account and they'll either send a check or direct deposit into paypal for you.

I get about $30-$50 from reviews to paypal, and I use that money to pay for my pc gaming wants :P

its shit, and make sure you always use a throw away email, I use: []

couple hours of bullshit reviews for 'free money', most half smart people should realize that online reviews are all bullshit.

even movie critic reviews online like tgwtg website is all bullshit, cause it's all paid for work. Either for sites like tgwtg is ad based revenue and some product reviews from other contributors to crappy blog sites that get paid to write written reviews for products...

the biggest thing any sane person should know is do not trust ANY online review. most are paid for and most are bullshit

Re:Android (1)

inasity_rules (1110095) | about a year ago | (#43464405)

Well, wouldn't that apply to offline reviews too?

I tend to search for forums to find out the problems first, but I do know of one instance where a company deleted forum posts to hide the fact that their AV product broke windows 7 (try to guess who, it is worth 1 internet!).

Re:Android (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464419)

most half smart people should realize that online reviews are all bullshit...

the biggest thing any sane person should know is do not trust ANY online review. most are paid for and most are bullshit

I'm aware of that but it is nice to know who I have to thank for that.

Re:Android (2)

Bigby (659157) | about a year ago | (#43464575)

I generally agree; not to trust positive reviews of products made by someone with a marketing budget. I generally hone in on 3* reviews and actually read it to see the gist of what they are talking about.

Outside of that, you have newegg that is able to show reviews of verified purchasers. And this is exactly why Google is moving to the "real names" model. Because "fake names" will only hurt their bottom line in the long term. Someone could still pay a "real name" to review products, but even those could be detected automatically and investigated by an integrity department.

Re:Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464705)

So that's how far Slashdot has fallen down the fucking toilet, a paid shill admits he's a shill, gives people SUGGESTIONS ON BECOMING ONE THEMSELVES, and gets modded up +5 informative.

Fuck this site and fuck you. People like you are the fucking cancer of the internet.

Re:Android (5, Insightful)

Old97 (1341297) | about a year ago | (#43465063)

He was informative. The rules of modding are that you don't mod based on whether you agree or not, you mod based on the quality/usefulness of the information provided. Some idiots mod down everything they disagree with so effectively they are trying to censor others. That would make /. much worse. Modding up because you agree would have a similar though less harmful effect. Less harmful in that low modded comments tend to get filtered out. If you'd prefer a site where nothing was posted except what you agreed with then you should start your own.

Re:Android (1)

zieroh (307208) | about a year ago | (#43466879)

That would make /. much worse.

That ship has sailed.

Re: Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43468213)

Amen. But I would have added: "what part don't you understand, the 'fuck' or the 'you'?"

Either way, my sentiments.

Shills, haters, and political rants from idiots on the "right" and "left."

Smart, articulate and (for the most part) very well educated idiots, but idiots just the same.

Whatever happened to common sense and open-mindedness? And critical thinking?

Red or Blue, it must suck to be ...

Figures (1)

darknet-defender (2782907) | about a year ago | (#43463595)

I was always wondering why some of my friends were recommending substandard samsung products and accusing me of being an Apple fanboy when I promoted LG products (I have an LG android phone). My "friends" (not IRL ones) are probably paid Samsung shills.

Seen this before (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43463633)

Its called affiliate marketing, and lots of businesses use it ( Is it legal? Who cares!

Only one thing surprising here... (5, Funny)

Kenja (541830) | about a year ago | (#43463677)

That there is such a thing as the Taiwanese Fair Trade Commission.

Re:Only one thing surprising here... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43463923)


Does anyone expect a company that has been convicted of price fixing and market collusion more than once to actually play fair?

Re:Only one thing surprising here... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464499)

Whatever. Given Taiwan's penalties for wrongdoings, Samsung will get a NT$300000 fine...which amounts to ~$10000USD. If I was Samsung's CEO, I'd pull even more of these stunts.

Re:Only one thing surprising here... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464903)

Exactly. They'll just up their marketing budget 0.01%..

Re:Only one thing surprising here... (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a year ago | (#43471339)

That there is such a thing as the Taiwanese Fair Trade Commission.

What would be surprising would be if such an organization had teeth. Here in the US we have the EPA. Seen our environment? "Nicer than China" is not an endorsement.

it was to be expected (4, Insightful)

swschrad (312009) | about a year ago | (#43463679)

after all, they can't bully HTC on patents, so they have to do it by hiring whiners

Re:it was to be expected (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about a year ago | (#43463741)

...hiring whiners

Do not taunt Samsung's team of compensated evangelists.

But.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464709)

..which am I supposed to consider more evil? The guys who've stacked the deck, or the guys trying to sneak more cards into the pack?

False Advertisement (1)

BlindMaster (2262842) | about a year ago | (#43463705)

I wonder what are those false advertisements they are talking about.

Anyway, I hope this is not a false advertisement from HTC as well.

Re:False Advertisement (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year ago | (#43463823)

Is it technically false advertising?

However there should be full disclosure: "Negative review of competitor's product paid for." Or at least "This is a paid-for anti-advertisement."

agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (1)

girlinatrainingbra (2738457) | about a year ago | (#43463715)

Doesn't exactly the same thing happen all of the time with books and book review on Amazon? There's a war of shills advertising for the book with inflated reviews and the counter-surge of negative reviews for the books sold by your competitors. Or books written by authors you dislike or despise...
What makes this different from positive advertising of your product's virtues or negative comparisons or statements about your competitor's products? Is it the hidden "agency" [] of using unattributed posters to say these negative things? [] []

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (1)

BlindMaster (2262842) | about a year ago | (#43463733)

What about Mac vs PC?

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (1)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about a year ago | (#43463891)


We have many many elections in Kolea. Have them plactically evely night!

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (1, Insightful)

BasilBrush (643681) | about a year ago | (#43463877)

Does Amazon allow you to review a book if you haven't bought it from them? If so, yes, it's ripe for abuse.

The quality of Apple App Store reviews were low in the early days, as anyone could review anything. So lots of apps got lots of one-star reviews for being 99c rather than free. Or other really stupid reasons.

The quality of reviews rose considerably when only people that had downloaded the app were allowed to review it.

Re: agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (3, Informative)

MysteriousPreacher (702266) | about a year ago | (#43464489)

Yep, Amazon allows reviews without prior purchase. It's why there's a whole load of book reviews from people who never read the things, some of whom readily admit to this. It's more common on controversial topics.

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (2)

tlhIngan (30335) | about a year ago | (#43466561)

Does Amazon allow you to review a book if you haven't bought it from them? If so, yes, it's ripe for abuse.

The quality of Apple App Store reviews were low in the early days, as anyone could review anything. So lots of apps got lots of one-star reviews for being 99c rather than free. Or other really stupid reasons.

The quality of reviews rose considerably when only people that had downloaded the app were allowed to review it.

Amazon does, for the simple reason that they realize not everyone buys their entire life from them, but they do want to serve as a nice review resource as well. It makes it ripe for abuse, but it also means that they can miss out on reviews from people who don't buy stuff from them. Games, for example - if most people bought from Steam, Amazon's reviews for them would be sparse for those who need to buy something as a gift for someone (yeah, you can probably do It through steam, but sometimes people like to have physical things).

As for iTunes, what happened was when you uninstalled an app, Apple asked if you wanted to rate it. Naturally, apps that got uninstalled typically were "bad" to the user so that naturally garnered a lot of 1-star reviews (if it was a fun app you enjoyed, you wouldn't uninstall it unless you absolutely had to, right?).

Because, AFAIK, iTunes has always required owning the app to review it (since you couldn't have gotten it elsewhere).

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (2)

BasilBrush (643681) | about a year ago | (#43468091)

Because, AFAIK, iTunes has always required owning the app to review it (since you couldn't have gotten it elsewhere).

No, I'm a developer. Originally, anyone with an account could post a review, regardless of whether they had downloaded it. There was much gnashing of teeth by developers about it.

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (5, Interesting)

geek (5680) | about a year ago | (#43463933)

The amazon situation is far worse and more widespread. I actually left a review for a book, a rather scathing one pointing out all the of problems with it. It was a scholarly book, not fiction. The book had dozens of 5 star reviews but was riddled with so many errors as to make it 1) virtually unreadable and 2) horrendously incorrect even to first year students and pretty much anyone with a brain cell.

Within hours I had hundreds of "unhelpful" votes followed by a steady stream of profanity thrown at me on my comment. Amazon removed my comment for review 6 times before putting it back due to complaints by the author. Then 8 years later the "author" and I use that term loosely, wrote another book and stuck a link to my review inside it with 12 pages of profanity laced verbiage regarding how bad a person I was and what I did with my mother. The author then posted a link to his new book in my comment so that I would be aware of its existence.

I've since removed my review because I'm frankly sick of the notifications that it's been hammered again. As it turned out though, the majority of the reviews were the authors friends and various fake accounts. It's so widespread on amazon these days I dont even read reviews anymore.

The kicker is the book was a scholarly look at the peaceful proliferation of Buddhism in the world..........

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (1)

Endo13 (1000782) | about a year ago | (#43464261)

I wonder if books are more likely to have such fake reviews than other categories on Amazon? Either way, your post is very interesting. Wish I could toss you a mod point.

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (1)

alexgieg (948359) | about a year ago | (#43464765)

The kicker is the book was a scholarly look at the peaceful proliferation of Buddhism in the world..........

Would you have some good suggestion on this or related topics? And if possible available for Kindle (shipping of physical books to Brazil is expensive) and not costing a fortune? I've read several books by actually representative Buddhist practitioners thus from Buddhists' own perspectives, but not much by academic scholars.

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (1)

i kan reed (749298) | about a year ago | (#43464835)

You understand that there is a threshold for libel, and that if what you posted is true, your best course of resolution is a legal one, not some arcane amazon process, right?

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (1)

geek (5680) | about a year ago | (#43465777)

For a libel case I would have to show damages. I wasn't damaged as the name on Amazon that I use is fake. Regardless, I just couldn't give a shit less about it. It was like 8-10 years ago.

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43465019)

I tend to think it's rather difficult to fake reviews (good or bad), provided you are somewhat knowledgeable in the particular area under review.
A shill is simply not going to go through the trouble, for a few lousy dollars, to square all the facts.
Genuine (or a properly done counterfeit) review builds on its assertions, and the evidence are consistent, both within the assertion, as well as with known external data and principles.

Case in point is all the Tesla electric car bullshit about a 265(300 according to Tesla) mile range on a 85 kWh battery pack.
While a smaller, lighter Chevrolet Volt with a 16 kWh battery only scrapes by with a EPA range of 35 miles.
A 25% heavier Tesla S with 5X the battery gets 8X the range...sorry, what? Somebody at the EPA is on the take.

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43467739)

A 25% heavier Tesla S with 5X the battery gets 8X the range...sorry, what? Somebody at the EPA is on the take.

Or Tesla has a more efficient electric motor because it doesn't have to squeeze in a combustion engine next to it...

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (1)

tbird81 (946205) | about a year ago | (#43469819)

The kicker is the book was a scholarly look at the peaceful proliferation of Buddhism in the world..........

You expected a positive response to criticism from a writer of religious bullshit?

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (3, Interesting)

hairyfeet (841228) | about a year ago | (#43465181)

This is one of the reasons I think ACs should be banned or at the very least start with a -2 because we have seen so much shilling and its soooo much easier to hide that with AC posts. After all you can look at the posting history and go "Well this poster only seems to post in topics concerning company A and only has glowing things to say about company A" and thus get a pretty good idea they are getting paid whereas for an AC post its impossible to tell if this is a pattern or if the poster merely likes a product.

Anybody can look at my history and see I like and hate a lot of things, often made by the same companies, so unless a company was stupid enough to pay for having some of their products royally slammed its just my opinion. How can I tell with an AC whether they just like something and are being honest in their like or if they are being paid to like it? Not any way that I can tell which is why I'm no fan of ACs. At least in the past ACs were primarily for trolling and bad jokes, your penisbird and other dirty ASCII art as well as old jokes like the "how to care for your nigger" post but now you can get whole articles and not have a dozen legit posts, its ALL ACs which means the entire thread is suspect IMHO.

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43470001)

Go fuck yourself.

Re:agency: unknown agents and Amazon and books (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | about a year ago | (#43471445)

You DO realize you just made my point for me by posting a pile of worthless nothing, yes? Please feel free to post lots and lots of worthless nothing, maybe if you and the rest of the ACs clog up enough posts the new owners will do something or we'll start a new website without the bullshit.

I hate shills (1)

Doug Otto (2821601) | about a year ago | (#43463809)

I hope there's a special level of hell set aside for them.

Re:I hate shills (1)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | about a year ago | (#43464181)

I hope there's a special level of hell set aside for them.

they're going to burn in a very special level of Hell. Along with those people who talk at the theater.

I wonder... (5, Funny)

TheSwift (2714953) | about a year ago | (#43463821)

... how much HTC paid for this accusation?

Re:I wonder... (1)

CodeReign (2426810) | about a year ago | (#43464249)

This is exactly my thought. True or not Taiwan has too much invested in HTC to care if samsung is actually guilty.

Re:I wonder... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464503)

I wonder how much you are paid for this accusation that hTC are making false accusations.*

Disclaimer: I am not making accusations here.

Not unexpected (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43463825)

Samsung has a "kill Taiwan" strategy. There was bound to be backlash for a company that is government-backed. []

HTC isn't exactly great though. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43463831)

I've had a HTC incredible 2 for almost 2 years now, and I've not been too happy with it :/ (Thankfully, the 2 year contract is almost up)
Between the faulty charger port, horrible reception, quickly draining/overheating battery, and broken promises by HTC/Verizon several times to update, I don't exactly have a very positive view of HTC.
I'll admit this is the only HTC phone I have, maybe the other ones suck less.
But regardless, while I'm not ruling it out that it's impossible for Samsung to have done such, it's certainly possible that they're also legitimate.

Re:HTC isn't exactly great though. (4, Funny)

Dutchmaan (442553) | about a year ago | (#43464141)

Please contact your Samsung HR department asap, we have trouble finding out who to send the check to when people post as AC.

Re:HTC isn't exactly great though. (1)

Kelbear (870538) | about a year ago | (#43464919)

I have had an HTC incredible for about 2 years now, I'm out of contract. Worked perfectly up until the last over-the-air update from Verizon a few months ago managed to screw over the Camera so that it sometimes reboots after taking a picture. I'm not certain of who's to blame for that update, but I'm thinking Verizon.

Otherwise, I like my phone, I'd buy HTC again. In the meantime I'm still going to use this phone for a few more years.

Re:HTC isn't exactly great though. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43469887)

T-Mobile G2 was a great HTC phone. Sadly they do not have a good replacement.

This is sad (4, Interesting)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | about a year ago | (#43463837)

Personally I believe the HTC One is a remarkable phone, exceedingly pretty and I love the fact that HTC dared to go against the mainstream with their camera by focusing on good low-light performance at the mega-pixel race's expense. While the Samsung Galaxy S III has nice specs it looks like ass and Samsung is seemingly afraid of trying new things now that they believe they've found a winning formula. I hope HTC can gain some market-share from Samsung and continues to experiment with their phones.

Re:This is sad (1)

drakaan (688386) | about a year ago | (#43464205)

...for that matter, my HTC (droid DNA) is the first phone I've really loved since my original motorola droid. Then again, it could just be that the droid X2 I suffered with for almost 2 years was such a piece of shit.

Re:This is sad (0)

perryizgr8 (1370173) | about a year ago | (#43464651)

yeah such a nice 4MP camera lol! when nokia wanted good low-light performance they made a 41MP camera, and htc makes a shitty 4MP.

Re:This is sad (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | about a year ago | (#43465897)

yeah such a nice 4MP camera lol! when nokia wanted good low-light performance they made a 41MP camera, and htc makes a shitty 4MP.

..and if you knew anything about photography you'd realize that megapixels do not equal quality.

Re:This is sad (1)

anethema (99553) | about a year ago | (#43469625)

Actually, assuming a fixed sensor size which is usually the case since your lens package determines this, the lower the pixel count, the larger the pixels are, and the more light you will get per pixel. This means, for a certain ISO, you will get a much brighter picture, the lower your megapixel count is. Esp on a phone, I'd take a 4MP with good low light over a 41MP with okay low light any day, any time.

Re:This is sad (1)

anethema (99553) | about a year ago | (#43469613)

Yeah. HTC one would be my #1 phone to go to right now if their battery was removable. Not because I want to swap batteries (I'm used to my iPhone and not having that ability) but because I'm sick of charging all the time and like the SIII, there will be kits for the S4 so vastly increase your battery at the cost of some thickness. If I had this option with the One, I'd be all over it like a fat kid on a cheeseburger.

Still might go that way since I like the design so much more than the S4. Have to weigh my options when I buy I guess.

HTC doesn't need bad reviews (4, Insightful)

alen (225700) | about a year ago | (#43463875)

they screwed their business themselves

no brand recognition
years of constant new phone releases under new names
crappy support and updates
crappy software. like a mail client with no push email to MS Exchange subfolders when every other android phone maker was doing it

Re:HTC doesn't need bad reviews (1)

EmperorArthur (1113223) | about a year ago | (#43464157)

You forgot flouting the GPL at every turn.
Just try to get the source code for some of there products.

I like the phone design, but everything else makes sure that I will be avoiding HTC in the future.

Re:HTC doesn't need bad reviews (4, Informative)

compro01 (777531) | about a year ago | (#43464493)

It does look like they're starting to mend their ways on that. The One's source is already out with the actual device still more than a week away.

Re:HTC doesn't need bad reviews (1)

EmperorArthur (1113223) | about a year ago | (#43469497)

Unfortunately, not. They're as bad as ever.

I've tried getting the kernel code for the Thunderbolt's ICS upgrade. The reply I received was a boilerplate response to the "When's the next update going to be" question. That was last week. So, no I do not think they're getting better. The GPL's source code requirements are a joke unless a kernel dev feels like spending money to hire a lawyer.

Honestly, if Samsung wanted to trash HTC that's how they should do it. They should contribute code to the Linux kernel, request a copy of all the different source code used on devices, then sue HTC for non-compliance. If there's one line different in any of the open source parts of a phone update, then the company needs to make a separate source tarball for each individual update (I know there are different ways, but source tarball/zip is what HTC does). If HTC is found to infringe, then by the GPL, they can't distribute the software until they're in compliance. That's what 50 million cases of copyright infringement.

Re:HTC doesn't need bad reviews (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43467865)

Another paid review, cha-ching

Definitely to be expected (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43463939)

During a brief period as a reviewer of video games, one of my contacts related how he was persona non grata with Sony for not doing positive reviews of their games. It comes as no surprise that Samsung, and most likely other companies too, would engage in similar behavior. What bothers me is that the students seem to have sold out relatively cheaply. I once figured out that at the very least, if asked, I would cost a minimum of $10,000 for a positive review of a bad game.

TL;DR: (4, Funny)

DrJimbo (594231) | about a year ago | (#43463991)

Microsoft here. You remember all the nasty, sneaky, dirty tricks we've pulled over the years? Well, our latest trick is to make front groups who claim our competitors are now using those same tricks.

Re:TL;DR: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464621)

you must work for Samsung!

or maybe hTC

Re:TL;DR: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464729)

you must work for Samsung!

or maybe hTC

Neither. It's a conspiracy headed by none other than Steve Jobs' digitized personality. He's too clever to let death stop him...

Re:TL;DR: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43468183)

come on, how much did apple pay you for that?

Let me get this straight (1)

webbiedave (1631473) | about a year ago | (#43464113)

A Taiwan-based corporation that brings in a lot of revenue to its government is now hurting and then goes to the same government it has given billions to and asks it to investigate the legitimacy of negative articles from its competition which, in turn, creates negative publicity for their competition?

Re:Let me get this straight (1)

the_B0fh (208483) | about a year ago | (#43466571)

You seemed to have missed the part where they got caught and went "oops, did we do that? So sorry, won't do that again"

From TFA:

Samsung Taiwan had originally claimed that it was unaware of the FTC’s actions, but later wrote on its Facebook page that it regretted “any inconvenience and confusion from the Internet event,” adding that “Samsung Taiwan has halted all Internet marketing such as posting articles on websites.”

Where do all these Samsung Defenders come from, I wonder... I mean, defending the company even after the company admitted doing it... Jesus.

Re:Let me get this straight (1)

webbiedave (1631473) | about a year ago | (#43467209)

Just getting paid, dog. Just gettin' paid. Wait, hold on. My boss is telling me something. What's that, boss? Oh, they we're serious about stopping these internet posts? So I don't get paid for this one? That is some straight up bullshit.

I just lost my job.

~Internet Reviewer for Hire!

One way to resolve stuff like this (2)

MikeRT (947531) | about a year ago | (#43464117)

Whenever a company uses illegal tactics (I would assume this could be considered defamatory in Taiwan) to advance a product against competitors, just fine them based on a simple fee schedule that is the total number of products sold against the harmed competitor(s) times a sliding scale of severity based on how anti-competitive it was. If that means billions in fines, so be it. Just make it so black and white and inflexible that it becomes a matter of "did you do it?" "Yes?" "Then pay "$x * y" in fines and restitution.

Re:One way to resolve stuff like this (1)

smash (1351) | about a year ago | (#43468417)

Thing is, the people involved with creating/funding laws don't want that, because it means that when THEY do it, it is unambiguous.

Samsung Ads (4, Insightful)

AlreadyStarted (523251) | about a year ago | (#43464235)

Does anyone else notice that many Samsung ads seem less about the products and more about making other people feel bad? I don't own an iPhone, but whenever I see a Samsung ad insulting some apple user all I can think is, "Boy those guys are jerks." If I need a product and the Samsung one is superior I'll probably buy it, but it would cross my mind that I don't want to be a jerk like the people in their ads.

Re:Samsung Ads (0)

perryizgr8 (1370173) | about a year ago | (#43464679)

There's no comparison between Samsung's latest phone and the newest iphone. Their ads just want to point that out. People need to know that iphones are shit compared to a galaxy S2/3/4 and the best way to tell them is by insulting iphone users.

Re:Samsung Ads (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43465653)

Someone just made $100... ;-)

Re:Samsung Ads (1)

You're All Wrong (573825) | about a year ago | (#43465771)

You're right. And Apple never did any "And I'm a PC" adverts aimed at making PC owners feel like they had an inferior product.

Meanwhile on planet reality...

Re:Samsung Ads (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43468821)

In those ads, there was no pretense that the characters portrayed were _actually_ PC and Mac. It was a commercial, i.e. you knew you were watching a commercial paid for by Apple. This is what allows you to make your snarky comment -- you watched the ad Apple paid for, and it was obvious from the ad that Apple paid for the ad and the message.

Yes, Samsung is the very first company to do this (3, Funny)

TheSkepticalOptimist (898384) | about a year ago | (#43464269)

Definitely no other company does this.

Re:Yes, Samsung is the very first company to do th (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464369)

They are not copying Apple as they get their shilling for free!

Re:Yes, Samsung is the very first company to do th (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43470947)

My hope is that a large-scale crackdown on astroturfing will follow. It's an absolute poison to society and has no right to be a thing.

Blacklisted (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464333)

Samsung is carved, tattooed, laser imprinted and sealed at the top of my do-not-buy-never-ever-blacklist. There is seriously no shittier, less moral, asshole tech company that the world. (Monsanto and BigOil are shittier, but they aren't tech companies). I'm serious.

Business as usual then. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464447)

Every single company in existence would likely do this at some point if they make a habit of it so they never get ratted on.

Once they make that first step it is blackmailed for life. At least if you are a smart comment and review shitstirrer, that is.

Any large company that doesn't run covert smear campaigns are probably nuts. Attack your competition. Even legally. (mocking is still legal last I checked)
Better yet, don't run smear campaigns, run "X is the best product / company" campaigns instead. Be on the moral side of cheating the system at the least!
All this negativity is bad for you.

Wait...seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464527)

Samsung’s local advertising agency had hired the students to criticise HTC and recommend Samsung smartphones instead.

People used to do this at my college all the time.

Not directly, sure, but they'd be like "Here's a free pizza from samsung, remember how HTC never gave you a pizza when you pick a phone :D"

Is anybody surprised? (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year ago | (#43464687)

The fact that we have the word 'astroturfing' to describe this kind of thing should be a pretty good hint that this happens.

People pay for fake Twitter followers, good reviews, bad reviews of competitors, position papers, and all sorts of crap. It's all about managing your brand and the message.

I find nothing at all surprising about this revelation, and I strongly suspect many corporations do the exact same thing.

Hell, Microsoft, the oil industry, the tobacco industry, political parties and the *AAs routinely cite 'research papers' from organizations which are really there just to be paid mouth pieces in order to support the version of the truth one organization wants to get out there. It's all marketing sleight of hand.

This is just the normal way of doing business these days. I've just come to assume that anything *too* much in favor of anything was purchased or was otherwise put out by someone with a stake in the game.

News flash, the average person doesn't apply a lot of critical thinking to these things, and companies are highly motivated to get a leg up on the competition.

Not astroturfing (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43465049)

The fact that we have the word 'astroturfing' to describe this kind of thing should be a pretty good hint that this happens.

Astroturfing is a different thing; it's when a company creates a political lobbying group disguised as a "grassroots" organization. (Fake grass, get it?) Calling this "astroturfing" makes no sense, since there is no such thing real grassroots support for a company like Samsung.

This is a negative variation on shilling: paying people to badmouth your competitors (as opposed to traditional shilling, which is paying people to talk up your own product.)

Shilling is to advertising as astroturfing is to lobbying.

Re:Not astroturfing (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year ago | (#43465283)

Astroturfing is a different thing; it's when a company creates a political lobbying group disguised as a "grassroots" organization.

Now that you've said all that. Go google for the definition of astroturfing and tell me if any of them support your assertion. Every one I can find also includes pumping products in it. Or are you going to assert that your own personal definition trumps all of the other ones?

Calling this "astroturfing" makes no sense, since there is no such thing real grassroots support for a company like Samsung.

Sure there is, actual paying customers who bought the product. You know, people who would be posting reviews.

Shilling is to advertising as astroturfing is to lobbying.

Well, as often happens on Slashdot, we're not the arbiters of how language gets used. Just because we want to make these arbitrary distinctions, it doesn't mean they're actually true.

In how I've seen it used and seen it defined, your definition is after the fact, arbitrary, and inconsistent with how the term is actually used.

So I'm afraid I have to discount your claim that astroturfing is only political as something you think, and may want to be true, but that isn't consistent with anything else.

Whatever happened to.... apk (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43464797)

"May the BEST MAN, win..."? I seriously suspect that THAT is a BIG PROBLEM in the world today, what-with all the scumbag cheats & shenanigans out there (much of it in "the world of business", especially).

Just plain dead-up DISHONORABLE bullshit, to be blunt about it!

* I mean, what - Did those FOOLS *think* they'd "get away with it"? Come on...

There's ALWAYS someone who will "let the cat outta the bag" with b.s. like that, a prime example(s) being:


The Chinese Water Army: []


HBGary: []


(Both being caught doing pretty much the same thing, albeit by using MULTIPLE trolling accounts/sockpuppets).

Samsung, were I they (or their board of directors but perhaps MORE IMPORTANTLY, their shareholders)? I'd find out WHO put their "John Hancock" on that order, & can his ass, fast... if only for "damage control", before they damage themselves further!

These people are no better than our OWN "trolling scumbag" Jeremiah Cornelius who now has to face the music on pretty much the same crap!

(I.E./E.G.-> JC spammed posts about myself here by the MANY 100's all March 2013 last month, only to BLOW IT, accidentally submitting one as his "registered 'luser'" account here instead of his USUAL ac ones -> [] )

He pissed the entire forums here off royally trying to 'crap on me' & lmao, only ended up crapping on himself (and yet the punk had the NERVE to 'complain' about it, here too -> [] later... no class, no honor, & certainly NO BALLS! )

I can't stand people like that. I really can't. Nice part is though, they ALWAYS screw up & get caught (like any up to no good idiot usually does, if only eventually).


P.S.=> Now, they're going to have to "live it down", & find out that though you MAY do 1,000 great things now or in the past, all it takes is 1 'blackmark' to mess you up for years-to-decades into the distance... & "oh sure", the business types figure "Ah, customers are STUPID - they'll 'fuggit bout it'", right? WRONG... for example above, the ones I pointed out in the 2 links above (I, for one, will NEVER forget that, & I am certain I am NOT alone in that sentiment)...

... apk

Re:Whatever happened to.... apk (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43467451)

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

* POOR SHOWING TROLLS, & most especially IF that's the "best you've got" - apparently, it is... lol!

Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers.

Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill

Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file.

You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-

side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach

students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly

ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm

a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to

become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a

damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant,

fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with

APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement

with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back

in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the

APK on OSY was fake.

My reputation as a professional in this field clearly shows in multiple publications in this field in written print, & also online in various GOOD capacities since 1996 to present day. This has

happened since I was first published in Playgirl Magazine in 1996 & others to present day, with helpful tools online in programs, & professionally sold warez that were finalists @ Westminster Dog Show 2000-



apk on 4chan []




That was amazing. - []


My, God! It's beatiful. Keep it up, you glorious bastard. - []


Let us bask in its glory. A true modern The Wasteland. - []


put your baby IN ME -- I just read this whole thing. Fuck mod points, WHERE DO I SEND YOU MY MONEY?!!! - []


Oh shit, Time Cube Guy's into computers now... - []


[apk]'s done more to discredit the use of HOSTS files than anyone [else] ever could. - []


this obnoxious fucknuts [apk] has been trolling the internet and spamming his shit delphi sub-fart app utilities for 15 years. - []


this is hilarious. - []


I agree I am intrigued by these host files how do I sign up for your newsletter? - []


Gimme the program that generates this epic message. I'll buy 5 of your product if you do... - []


a pretty well-executed mashup of APK's style - []


a very clever parody of APK - []


Please keep us updated on your AI research, you seem quite good at it. - []


Obviously, it must be Alexander Peter Kowalski. He's miffed at all these imposters... - []


Damn, apk, who the fuck did you piss off this time? Hahahahaahahahahahahaahaha. Pass the popcorn as the troll apk gets pwned relentlessly. - []


I think it's the Internet, about to become sentient. - []


KUDOS valiant AC. - []


Polyploid lovechild of APK, MyCleanPC, and Time Cube --> fail counter integer overflow --> maximum win! - []


You made my day, thanks! - []


Wow. The perfect mix of trolls. Timecube, mycleanpc, gnaa, apk... this is great! - []


truer words were never spoken as /. trolls are struck speechless by it, lol! - []


It's APK himself trying to maintain the illusion that he's still relevant. - []


Mod this up. The back and forth multi posting between APK and this "anti-APK" certainly does look like APK talking to himself. - []


APK himself would be at the top of a sensible person's ban list. He's been spamming and trolling Slashdot for years. - []


Not sure if actually crazy, or just pretending to be crazy. Awesome troll either way. - []


Awesome! Hat off to you, sir! - []


That isn't a parody of Time-cube, it is an effort to counter-troll a prolific poster named APK, who seems like a troll himself, although is way too easy to troll into wasting massive amounts of time on BS

not far from the exaggerations above - []


that is Art . Kudos to you, valiant troll on your glorious FP - []


What? - []


It is in fact an extremely well thought out and brilliantly executed APK parody, combined with a Time Cube parody, and with a sprinkling of the MyCleanPC spam. - [] ?



[to apk] er... many people have disproved your points about hosts files with well reasoned, factual arguments. You just chose not to listen and made it into some kind of bizarre crusade. And I'm not the

timecube guy, just someone else who finds you intensely obnoxious and likes winding you up to waste your time. - []


it's apk, theres no reason to care. - []


Seems more like an apk parody. - []


That's great but what about the risk of subluxations? - []


Read carefully. This is a satirical post, that combines the last several years of forum trolling, rolled into one FUNNY rant! - []


I can has summary? - []


Trolls trolling trolls... it's like Inception or something. - []


We all know it's you, apk. Stop pretending to antagonize yourself. - []


Now you've made me all nostalgic for USENET. - []


Google APK Hosts File Manager. He's written a fucking application to manage your hosts file. - []


In case you are not aware, the post is a satire of a fellow known as APK. The grammar used is modeled after APK's as you can see here [] . Or, you can just look around a bit and see some of his posts on here about the wonders of host files. - [] ?



You are surely of God of Trolls, whomever you are. I have had stupid arguments with and bitten the troll apk many times. - []


"What kind of meds cure schizophrenic drunk rambling?" -> "Whatever APK isn't taking" - [] [] ?



I'm confused, is apk trolling himself now? - []


Excellent mashup. A++. Would troll again. - []


Best. Troll. Ever. - []


I like monkeys. - []


This is one of the funniest things I've ever read. - []


I admire this guy's persistence. - []


It's a big remix of several different crackpots from Slashdot and elsewhere, plus a liberal sprinkling of famous Slashdot trolls and old memes. - []


APK is a prominent supporter of Monsanto. - []


Here's a hint, check out stories like this one [] , where over 200 of the 247 posts are rated zero or

-1 because they are either from two stupid trolls arguing endless, or quite likely one troll arguing with himself for attention. The amount of off-topic posts almost outnumber on topic ones by 4 to 1. Posts

like the above are popular for trolling APK, since if you say his name three times, he appears, and will almost endlessly feed trolls. - []


I love this copypasta so much. It never fails to make me smile. - []


^ Champion Mod parent up. - []


I appreciate the time cube reference, and how you tied it into the story. Well done. - []


The day you are silenced is the day freedom dies on Slashdot. God bless. - []


AHahahahah thanks for that, cut-n-pasted.... Ownage! - []


If you're familiar with APK, the post itself is a pretty damn funny parody. - []


">implying it's not apk posting it" --> "I'd seriously doubt he's capable of that level of self-deprecation..." - [] []


No, the other posts are linked in a parody of APK [mailto] 's tendency to quote himself, numbnuts. - []


Just ban any post with "apk", "host file", or "hosts file", as that would take care of the original apk too. The original has been shitposting Slashdot much longer & more intensively than the parody guy. Or

ban all Tor exit nodes, as they both use Tor to circumvent IP bans. - []


Sadly this is closer to on-topic than an actual APK post is. - []




I've butted heads with APK myself, and yeah, the guy's got issues - []


Can I be in your quote list? - []


Clearly you are not an Intertubes engineer, otherwise the parent post would be more meaningful to you. Why don't YOU take your meds? - []


+2 for style! The bolding, italicizing, and font changes are all spot-on - []


Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - []


APK is not really a schizophrenic fired former Windows administrator with multiple personality disorder and TimeCube/Art Bell refugee. He's a fictional character like and put forward by the same person as

Goatse Guy, GNAA trolls, Dr. Bob and so forth. His purpose is to test the /. CAPTCA algorithm, which is a useful purpose. If you're perturbed by having to scroll past his screeds just set your minimum point

level to 1, as his posts are pretty automatically downmodded right away. - []


I just saw APK a couple days ago. He surfaced, blew once, and submerged... - []


oh man, that incredible interminable list of responses is almost as funny as the original post. This is getting to be truly epic. - []


"Does anyone know of an Adblock rule for this?" -> "No, but I bet there's a hosts file entry for it..." - [] [] ?



"Can a hosts file block apk's posts, though?" -> "The universe couldn't handle that much irony." - [] [] ?



"That's it, I've had enough. ... Bye everyone, most of the last decade or so has been fun, but frankly, I quit." - []
--> "So basically what you're saying is that you've added yourself to the HOST file?" - []


Sweet baby Moses, this is beautiful work - I wish we could get trolls as good as this on TF. :) - []


you have a point - []


I do admire that level of dedication. - []


[to apk] shut up you stupid cock. Everyone knows you're wrong. - []


I will hand it to him, he is definitely consistent. I wish I knew how he did this. That thing is scary huge. - []


I admire the amount of dedication you've shown - []


Word is, ESR buttfucks CmdrTaco with his revolver. - []


Hey APK, Protip: It's not the truth or value (or lack of) in your post that gets it modded into oblivion, it's the fucking insane length. In addition to TL;DR (which goes without saying for a post of such

length), how about irritating readers by requiring them to scroll through 20+ screenfuls just to get to the next post. If you want to publish a short story like this, please do everyone a favor and blog it

somewhere, then provide a brief summary and link to your blog. Readers intrigued by your summary will go read your blog, and everyone else will just move along at normal /. speed. - []


I like how this post seems to just sum up every Slashdot comment ever without actually saying anything. - []


extremely bright - []


You provide many references, which is good. - []


Obviously very passionate - []


Thanks ... You should probably stay - []


Art? -- []


PROOF apk sucks donkey dick. - []


I've been around /. for a while now, but this post is by far the most unique I've seen. Many have tried, but few achieve the greatness of this AC. My hat's off to you. - [] ?



I think it's hilarious. Get over it! - []


Obviously APK filled his hosts files with backdoors before distributing them to ensure he doesn't block himself. - []


Alexander Peter Kowalski is an obnoxious prick. - []


Don't mention that file. Ever. It'll draw APK like a fly to rotting meat. Last thing I want to read is 80 responses worth of his stupid spam about that file! I swear that cocksucker does nothing but search

Slashdot for that term and then spams the entire article. - []


[to apk] You have had it repeatedly explained to you that your posts are long-winded, unpleasant to read due to your absurd formatting style and full of technical inaccuracies borne of your single minded i-

have-a-hammer-so-every-problem-is-a-nail attitude. - []


You are my favorite Slashdot poster. - []


Most insightful post on the Internet - []


I read the whole thing *again* just to see if my comment was in there - []


[to apk] So, did your mom do a lot of drugs when she was pregnant? - []


people are looking at me funny because I'm laughing hysterically at what a perfect APK imitation it is. - []


Slashdot devs seem in no hurry to fix this problem and it's been driving me nuts. So for anybody who values viewing at -1 and uses greasemonkey here's a Script [] .

There's a chance of false positives and it's not the most optimized. But I value not having to scroll through > 10 paragraphs of APK, custom hosts files, or 'acceptable ads' spam. - []
--> slashdot devs are too busy installing itunes for their hipster nerd buddys to sort this problem out. - []


I can't get enough of all of this good stuff! Thanks for the informative links! - []


When threatened, APK typically produces a post with links showing he's essentially posted this hundreds of times to slashdot stories... - []


[to apk] Your post got downmodded because you're a nutjob gone off his meds. - []


[to apk] The reason people impersonate you is because everyone thinks you're a moron. The hosts file is not intended to be used as you suggest. - []
-->What? You don't have a 14MB hosts file with ~1million entries in it? Next you'll probably tell me that your computer doesn't start thrashing and take 5 minutes for a DNS lookup! - []


[about apk] - this fwit is as thick as a post. worse, this shithead has mod points. and using them. - []


In before the fight between those two guys and their walls of text... - []




KPA ...thgim dik a ekil .s.b laivirt hcus no emit hcum taht etsaw t'ndluow I sa ,ti gniod em TON si ti - syug ON - []


[to apk] You seriously need to go see a shrink. You are a fucking fruitcake! - []


[to apk] Did you ever consider that it's not just one corrupt moderator, it's a bunch of regular slashdot users who infrequently get mod points who think you are totally full of shit? Stop posting annoying

off topic irrelevant bullshit, and people won't mod you down. I'm seriously sick of reading your posts about someone impersonating you. - []


[to apk] you should be forced to use a cholla cactus as a butt-plug - []


[to apk] No one is on your side, that is why you're here. posting. still. No one cares. - []


Who's the more moronic? The original moron, or the one who replies to him knowing full well his comment will certainly be ignored, if not entirely unread, thus bringing the insane troll post to the attention

of those who would otherwise not have seen it at all (seeing as it started at 0 and would have rapidly been modded down to -1) and whose post (and, somewhat ironically I grant you, this one as well) now

requires 3 more mod points to be spent to hide it? - []


[to apk] I miss trollaxor. His gay porn world of slashdot executives and open-source luminaries was infinitely more entertaining than this drivel. - [] ?



PLEASE stop modding biters up. Anyone who responds to an abvious troll, especually one of these APK trolls, should autometically get the same -1 troll as the damned troll. Any response to a troll only makes

the troll do more trolling. Come on, guys, use your brains -- it isn't that hard. Stop feeding the damned trolls! - (missing link)


[to apk] Lick the inside of goatse's anus, it's delicious! - []


Excellent post A++++++++++++ would scroll past again!!!! - []


[to apk] You are the one who is pitiful. If you didn't spam /. with your bullshit you wouldn't have spammer 'impostors' doing the same. Just fuck off and die already, ok? Please, really. Step in front of a

bus. Drink some bleach. Whatever it takes, just FUCK OFF and DIE. - []


[to apk] From one AC to another please for the love of god, PRINT YOUR HOST FILE OUT AND CRAM IT DOWN YOUR JAPS EYE!!! For fucks sake we don't care we see this and it takes the piss, short of a full frontal

lobotomy what will it take to stop you posting this you moronic fuckwit? - []


[to apk] And someone forgot to take his meds today...Are you really that dense that you cant tell that the only reason the "impostor" exists because you have a hard time realizing that you are wrong and/or

wont let it go. It would take a complete moron to not realize that the whole reason he continues to do it is because he knows he can get you to respond by simply posting. This isnt rocket science, this is

internet 101... Let me offer you some advice on how to get rid of this "impostor"...shutup - []


[to apk] If you had a 'luser' account it wouldn't be a problem. But you don't want one of those, because your long rambling and bizarrely formatted posts mean your karma gets nuked in next to no time. So I

guess you just have to work out which is 'worth it'. Posting AC because I don't want to become your latest fixation. - []


I wouldn't be surprised if that is APK trying to draw attention to himself, since he thinks such endless tirades are examples of him winning and make him look good. When people stop paying attention to him,

or post actual counterpoints he can't come up with a response to, he'll post strawman troll postings to shoot down, sometimes just copy pasted from previous stories. - [] ?



[to apk] No one wants to read your copy pasted crap. Maybe someone is mocking you because you make it so easy to? So drop it, and participate like an adult please. - [] ?



Seriously.... What. The. Fuck. Can you two homos just go make out on brokeback mountain already, and stop talking about how one of you misspelled "penetration", and how the other cockblocks with their hosts

files while grabing the other's goat? Goodness, it sure feels like being in a mountain range, trying to peer around those fucking orbital tether lengthed posts of pure premium bullsit the two of you somehoq

manage to keep pushing out on demand. Shit stinks! At this point, i'd be willing to risk the fucking extinction of all life on earth by redirecting siding spring C/2013 1A to miss Mars and land on both of your

fucking heads instead. The deaths of billions would be a small price to pay to shut you two cackling lovebirds up! - []


[to apk] Listen up jackass, why the hell would somebody want to impersonate you? You're a certified internet kook. Nobody gives a hot about your 3 gig hosts file. And nobody is impersonating you. You're

already a fucking parody. - []


[to apk] You have had it repeatedly explained to you that your posts are long-winded, unpleasant to read due to your absurd formatting style and full of technical inaccuracies borne of your single minded i-

have-a-hammer-so-every-problem-is-a-nail attitude. Despite this advice you are convinced that your comments are valuable contributions, ignoring the obvious evidence to the contrary (namely the -1 scores your

posts earn on a regular basis). - []


[about apk] Can this be killed off? I don't mean this account, I mean the actual meatbag behind it. - []


[to apk] Get an account retard. If you format your password as crazily as your posts no-one will ever crack it. - []


[to apk] You are the most consistently annoying creature on the internet. There are people worse than you, just like cancer is worse than psoriasis, but you're more like the latter: pervasive, annoying, and

always cropping up when one has mostly forgotten about it. You are that indeterminate, continuous itching that slowly erodes someone's mood until they consider cutting off a part of themselves just to stop it

for a while. And like psoriasis, you're auto-immune and not fully understood by science. Slashdot continuously makes it worse by scratching that itch over and over again. It's not smart. It just encourages the

disease. But everybody's got a limit to their patience. There is no cure for you. But at least, when slashdot dies, you will die with it, and there will be peace. - [] ?





Did you see the movie "Pokemon"? Actually the induced night "dream world" is synonymous with the academic religious induced "HOSTS file" enslavement of DNS. Domains have no inherent value, as it was

invented as a counterfeit and fictitious value to represent natural values in name resolution. Unfortunately, human values have declined to fictitious word values. Unknowingly, you are living in a "World Wide

Web", as in a fictitious life in a counterfeit Internet - which you could consider APK induced "HOSTS file". Can you distinguish the academic induced root server from the natural OpenDNS? Beware of the change

when your brain is free from HOSTS file enslavement - for you could find that the natural Slashdot has been destroyed!!

FROM -> Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself

& others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

So long nummynuts, sorry to have to kick your nuts up into your head verbally speaking.

cower in my shadow some more, feeb. you're completely pathetic.


* :)

Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words!

P.S.=> That's what makes me LAUGH harder than ANYTHING ELSE on this forums (full of "FUD" spreading trolls) - When you hit trolls with facts & truths they CANNOT disprove validly on computing tech based

grounds, this is the result - Applying unjustifiable downmods to effetely & vainly *try* to "hide" my posts & facts/truths they extoll!

Hahaha... lol , man: Happens nearly every single time I post such lists (proving how ineffectual these trolls are), only showing how solid my posts of that nature are...

That's the kind of martial arts [] I practice.


Disproof of all apk's statements:


RECENT POST LINKS: [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []
REPORT MISSING LINKS FOR REWARD (check pastebin archive first)


TIP JAR: 1EtLgU5L3jhmVkDmqrWT9VhoZ1F2jSimHS []
RECEIVED: 0.0195 BTC - thx! ;-)

the holy galaxy s3 (1)

alen (225700) | about a year ago | (#43465291)

for almost a year i read how awesome the galaxy S3 is. then my father in law got one and i played around with it. nice phone but nothing special. i'll keep my iphone 5

guerrilla marketing at its best

They are doing it wrong... (1)

ruir (2709173) | about a year ago | (#43465645)

I wont mind talking negatively about android and samsung for free...

It's not just negative review (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#43467091)

I'm posting anonymous for a reason (fear of retaliation from Samsung)

I've followed the story since it first broke out in Taiwan. What Samsung did was not just bad review. They essentially flooded forums with flame, troll, fake discussion to create a viral campaign.

For example, a hired writer would post under ID "A" asking, which phone is better, Samsung vs HTC. Then the same guy would login using ID "B" to write good review about Samsung phone. He would then use a 3rd ID "C" to pretend to be an HTC supporter, but reply with poor taste (like calling "B" an idiot, swearing, but give no real context). All this to great a buzz and fake discussion, with the original ID "A" eventually said he bought Samsung, and it was a smart move and a better choice. Samsung was also accused of hiring writer to cook up fake story on forum how he "unboxed the new HTC One and the quality was crap".

Samsung also played the nationality card. Samsung sponsored some sports event in Taiwan, then hire writer to post "WHY ISN'T HTC SUPPORTING TAIWAN LIKE SAMSUNG", and also using multiple ID's to "agree" and build the fake discussion so that Samsung sounds like the good guy, and HTC is the bad guy.

Leaving fake positive review is one thing. What Samsung did was with smear campaign on HTC, Sony Xperia, Apple, is just utterly disgusting!!!

Pretty sure they all do it but HTC has a cheek (1)

Teknikal69 (1769274) | about a year ago | (#43467797)

Not afraid to say that I really like Samsung devices and have never been paid for it, name one other manufacturer who lets you add an extended battery and 64gb Micro SDXC card to their phones these days. For me that's a good enough reason to stick with them

It is an interesting article though because I've had similar thought's about HTC recently on certain other tech and Android forums the amount of HTC One posts is way beyond any other phone and most of them are full of nonsense reasons why the One is better than everything else but if you look at the actual specs the HTC is trailing the Galaxy S4 in everything.

To me that's very fishy.

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