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Twitter Launches the World's Umpteenth Online Music Site

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the re-dis-un-double-secret-intermediation dept.

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Nerval's Lobster writes "Twitter is plunging into the online music game. Twitter Music (or "Twitter #music," in the company's own rendering) uses Twitter activity such as Tweets and engagement "to detect and surface the most popular tracks and emerging artists," according to an April 18 posting on Twitter's official blog. Songs on the app derive from three sources: iTunes, Spotify, or Rdio. And yes, Twitter is big, but its victory is by no means assured: other IT giants have entered the same market only to watch highly-publicized projects wither away, doomed by some combination of audience apathy and implementation issues. Take Apple's Ping, for example: launched in September 2010 as part of an iTunes update, the ambitious social-networking and music-recommendation engine immediately ran into a number of problems, including a lack of Facebook integration (despite Steve Jobs' assurances to the contrary) and widespread reports of spam and fake accounts. Can Twitter's effort stand out, or will it just be lost in all the noise?"

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Twitter (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483111)

So they will play the first 140 bytes of the song ?

Re:Twitter (1)

stewsters (1406737) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483177)

We will need to use bytebeats to get a song in that limit.

Re:Twitter (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483493)

So they will play the first 140 bytes of the song ?

You'll all sing like the birdies sing, Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet!

Re:Twitter (1)

rwise2112 (648849) | about a year and a half ago | (#43485261)

So they will play the first 140 bytes of the song ?

No, they'll choose a bit rate to make all the songs 140 bytes. It'll be fine!

Re:Twitter (1)

antdude (79039) | about a year and a half ago | (#43485933)

I wonder how that will sound. Nothing? Heh.

Even MIDI files aren't that tiny.

Re:Twitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43488413)

Considering what the demoscene people can fit into 1 KB (see example [youtube.com] ), 140 bytes could be used to produce quite complex music.

Re:Twitter (1)

GrumpySteen (1250194) | about a year and a half ago | (#43488501)

Oh yes. Let's have Twitter start distributing 140 byte executables. What could possibly go wrong?

That word (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483117)

I do not think it is a word. Perhaps you should try "umpteenth". Note the "m".

Re:That word (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483229)

They're, their, there, grammar Nazi. It'll be ok.

Re:That word (1)

chewy_fruit_loop (320844) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483901)

...think you mean spelling nazi

Re:That word (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43491301)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proper_noun#Capitalization_and_proper_names

Re:That word (1)

Antipater (2053064) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483273)

The editors ran out of characters for the story title.

Re:That word (3)

ackthpt (218170) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483509)

As a mathematician and programmer I am personnally offended it isn't (n-1)th

Re:That word (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483845)

As a mathematician and programmer I personally recommend (n+1)th because n -> n+1 is defined on the natural numbers, but n -> n-1 isn't

This is bound to fail (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483169)

I hear the songs can only be 140 seconds long.

Re:This is bound to fail (3, Funny)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483245)

Isn't that about the length of a normal pop song anyway?

Re:This is bound to fail (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483569)

yes but now they won't be able to repeat those same 140 over and over and call it a song, OMG its the death of pop music....actually i'm ok with this.

Re:This is bound to fail (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43485835)

From my lawn it sounds like 140dB too.

so what? (0)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483187)

why look another twitter feature I will never use

Re:so what? (4, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483201)

Because nobody should ever do anything if you, personally, won't use it

Re:so what? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483337)

Pretty much.

Re:so what? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483527)

Frankly, I'm more concerned about the fact that they're devoting resources to branching out further when their original focus is in need of work.

They crippled third-party clients with the API restrictions, and have since come out with Vine and #Music. Meanwhile, DMs are still unreliable, you can't filter anything beyond blocking users or turning off their retweets, follow request responses don't work reliably, @'ing now pulls up a universal search instead of putting your followers/followees at the top of the list, and a myriad of other things they seem to be neglecting in favor of changing the mobile UI appearance.

Something tells me this outfit isn't being managed very well.

Re:so what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483429)

arnold arnold arnold rimmer
without him life would be much dimmer

"Can Twitter's effort stand out, or ...?" (2)

ADanFromCanada (2809499) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483233)

Personally, I've already forgotten about whatever it is I'm commenting on....

MySpace? (2)

netsentry (2733393) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483265)

Witness the devolving into indie bands patting each other's backs. Anybody notice the directional path being eerily similar to what happened to MySpace?

Incidentally, if I see someone post that they like a song on (pick your social network) I ignore it. Can't remember the last time I actually clicked one. Maybe that's just me.

Re:MySpace? (1)

tnk1 (899206) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483371)

There are people whose opinion of music that I trust to at least not waste my time, and I'm always looking for something new. Still, I'd have to agree that signal to noise ratio on something like Twitter is likely to be something of a problem.

Re:MySpace? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483521)

if I see someone post that they like a song on (pick your social network) I ignore it.

That would depend entirely on what you are using the social network for. The only group I am active in is focused on music.

If I was on Facebook with my parents I would ignore everything too.

Sigh ... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483345)

Hey Tiothy you illiterate idiot, it's "umpteenth".

What qualifies you to be an editor again? Because it aint your prowess with the English language.

Re:Sigh ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483905)

Damn you Tiothy!

Re:Sigh ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43484421)

He left out an m, seems entirely reasonable to return the favor.

Tiothy is a butt uncher.

fuck grammer nazis (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483453)

and fuck you too

Hmmm ... (2)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483457)

Take Apple's Ping, for example: launched in September 2010 as part of an iTunes update, the ambitious social-networking and music-recommendation engine immediately ran into a number of problems, including a lack of Facebook integration

Is lack of Facebook integration really a problem?

Admittedly, I see no value in Apple's Ping or most forms of social networking, so I'm clearly too old and grumpy, and therefore not their target market. But I can't see wanting to tell Facebook such information about myself.

To me, lack of Facebook integration is a good thing. (And, yes, I'm aware of the fact that for lots of people apparently it's the most awesome thing ever)

Re:Hmmm ... (1)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483475)

well I am not on your lawn

Re:Hmmm ... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483585)

well I am not on your lawn

Hey, you can do anything you want on your lawn. You can even come over to my lawn and tell me how awesome your lawn is.

But I'm not going to run out and buy pink flamingos and lawn jockeys because you think they're awesome. ;-)

I don't get it, but that doesn't mean I care about your choice to do it. I'm obviously not going to deny that loads of people use Facebook and like it, because that would be silly.

But since every site now links to Facebook, I'm betting they get to know pretty much everything you do on the web since it reports back to the mother ship. I don't have any trust in Zukerfuck, so I wouldn't provide him with any of this stuff. What you choose to do is entirely up to you.

Re:Hmmm ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483823)

"But since every site now links to Facebook, I'm betting they get to know pretty much everything you do on the web since it reports back to the mother ship. I don't have any trust in Zukerfuck, so I wouldn't provide him with any of this stuff. What you choose to do is entirely up to you."

I feel exactly the same way about Itunes.

Re:Hmmm ... (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about a year and a half ago | (#43485891)

Given that it's a social network, its interrelationships (or lack thereof) with existing social networks were an issue. Now, as someone who doesn't use social networks, you can argue that it doesn't apply to you, but you can hardly say that it's a positive, any more than creating inedible cheese is a perk for the lactose intolerant.

Remember Myspace? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43483529)

That started out as a music sharing site. Then it turned into a horrible soap box for conceited and wrongfully self-entitled twats to showcase their lack of common sense understanding of what it truly means to be "social". But yes, this twitter service will be great, because music and self taken photos and 140 character sentences go hand in hand.

Crap (1)

Oyjord (810904) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483645)

I can't remember the last time I've seen such a vast collection of shitty music all in one space.

Can't see it working (3, Funny)

Stonent1 (594886) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483647)

Nobody wants to listen to songs 160 bytes at a time.

Oh great... (1)

yabos (719499) | about a year and a half ago | (#43483741)

It'll just be all justin dweeber crap.

It seems like they're just acting like an affiliate that recommends music based on tweets?

TROLLKORE (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43484093)

[nero-onlIne.org] they learn from our market share. Red And sling or table

App.Net (1)

ThatsNotPudding (1045640) | about a year and a half ago | (#43484287)

Though I hate to have yet another duck nibbling my wee budget to death, an $30-some annual ad-free App.Net is starting to look appealing. Twitter still does have some utility, but it's becoming an unjustifiable time-suck; and wading through more and more ads and 'promoted' bullshit is hastening the day of departure.

Re:App.Net (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43484495)

There are free invites to app.net that you can find on the net (twitter comes to mind, most invites are posted on twitter).

The limit is that you can't follow more than 40 people (or something) but it's not that bad since you can try it and see if you like it. I have a free account and I like it so far.

More info: http://support.app.net/customer/portal/articles/863836-app-net-invites-what-are-they-and-how-do-they-work-

Good luck on finding an invite!

tr0l/l (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#43486907)

From Michael Breon_Austin (1)

Michael_Breon_Austin (2875733) | about a year ago | (#43584407)

The Twitter #music looks like a cool concept and might gain enough traction to become pretty big. I still haven't tested ease of use, but releasing something to celebrities prior to the general public will always get people talking.
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