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Linus Torvalds on NPR tonight

CmdrTaco posted more than 12 years ago

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amortis writes "Heard on the radio that none other than Linus himself will be featured tonight on NPR's show "Fresh Air," which supposedly airs at 7pm EST. You can listen online at the NPR web site, and might be able to find more info at the Fresh Air page (I couldn't)."

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No *wonder* Linus is respected so! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#177172)

Hadn't heard him before, viva voce.
Without going into lots of detail, I respect people who are emotionally mature, and, so to speak, have good control over the "animalistic" parts of their egos. Linus is a better-balanced person than I ever hope to be. He's also very fortunate.
Guess it's appropriate to say he's a real mensch! Thoroughly decent guy.

Terry asks excellent questions; the show is a good intro. to Linus and Linux.

Linus is apparently on a book tour; has a new book out (forgot the title). Expect more interviews, and probably some on NPR, as well.

Enby in Waltham

Too bad its in Real format... WTF? (2)

torpor (458) | more than 12 years ago | (#177173)

Anyone know how to deal with Real audio these days without having to buy RealPlayer Gold 8? Where's the free client download for Real- is it not available any more?

It's been so long since I cared about RealAudio, I didn't realize they've gone completely commercial now ... kinda sucks.

Re:Air time varies (2)

Zachary Kessin (1372) | more than 12 years ago | (#177175)

She does great radio and is a credit to the medium. Which can be said about NPR in general.

I would bet that even if Terry Gross had never heard of linux before, she sat down with the book and read it and made notes on the things she wanted to ask about. And her style of doing interviews tends to bring people out and feal good about being interviewed.

I'll have to listen to it later.

Fresh air is a very good show (3)

Zachary Kessin (1372) | more than 12 years ago | (#177177)

Terry Gross always makes it a point to know about the things she is going to ask and comes out with a very interesting show.

Air times will vary by where you live and when your NPR station airs it. But you should be able to get it tomorow from the NPR web site.

Linux? NPR? Dare I let my two worlds collide? (1)

Omega (1602) | more than 12 years ago | (#177179)

The show doesn't come on until 7:30 in the Penn State area, so I still have time to buy a tape.

It appears as though the Fresh Air people have either been receiving hoardes of nerd e-mail asking "Where's the Linus Torvalds info" on their site, or amortis is just really oblivious to the prominently featured story [npr.org] .. Probably the former, but I don't really know amortis. ;)

Btw, WHYY studios are in Philadelphia. What's the Linux goings on in Philly that I don't know about?

Re:No MP3 on RPR? (1)

smoser (4385) | more than 12 years ago | (#177181)

Doesn't it seem backwards to anyone that Linux fans in general want a mp3 version? MP3 is pretty much entirely *not* free. I'm afraid that it might be an indication that linux folks are really "free beer" folks as opposed to "free speech". Granted, its the most free of the widely deployed alternatives, but its not the solution. Go Ogg!

Re:Air time varies (2)

ocie (6659) | more than 12 years ago | (#177186)

Maybe they should have Linus on "car talk". They could have a computer segment where people call in with questions about "Wy won't my computer start?" "Why does it make that funny noise?" and the ever popular "What is that funny smell and black smoke coming from?"

Re:No MP3 on RPR? (1)

Art Tatum (6890) | more than 12 years ago | (#177187)

You're correct, of course. However, at least with MP3 you don't have to download the proprietary spyware that is RealPlayer.

Re:Air time varies (2)

ethereal (13958) | more than 12 years ago | (#177197)

[Tom]: ...and remember, don't hack like my brother.

[Ray]: Don't hack like my brother!

(hilarity ensues)

Caution: contents may be quarrelsome and meticulous!

Re:Too bad its in Real format... WTF? (1)

FPhlyer (14433) | more than 12 years ago | (#177200)

The "free" version of Realplayer 8 is still available, and they do have a Linux client. Real has simply made their pages so difficult to navigate that you really have to search hard to find the link to the "free" (as in beer) player:

http://huxley.real.com/real/player/player.html?s rc =010524realhome_1,010524rpchoice_h1&dc=656463

Real Audio file already available (4)

FPhlyer (14433) | more than 12 years ago | (#177201)

It's right on the page for today's show Taco! With a link to the real audio file. http://freshair.npr.org/dayFA.cfm?todayDate=curren t

clarification... (3)

sterno (16320) | more than 12 years ago | (#177202)

Fresh air airs at different times on each station. Here in Chicago it's at 2:00 pm (which means I just missed most of it). so, check your local NPR station to find out for certain when it is

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Re:No MP3 on RPR? (2)

Skapare (16644) | more than 12 years ago | (#177204)

I guess we just wait until someone "frees" the audio (e.g. converts it to .ogg or .mp3) and makes it available (hint, hint).

This announcement should have been YESTERDAY! (2)

Skapare (16644) | more than 12 years ago | (#177205)

The show has already played in half the market. Now we have to deal with real audio crap to hear it. I'll just be waiting for someone who can convert it to .ogg or .mp3 to make it available.

Next time, /. needs to check the national schedule for radio shows and get the word out before the first market plays.

Shoutcast stream (3)

Levine (22596) | more than 12 years ago | (#177210)

My local NPR station seems to pretty technologically adept, as they have a shoutcast stream availiable here [152.2.63.108] . The program will air at 7PM EDT, which is in roughly 1 hour and 20 minutes from time of posting.

http://152.2.63.108:8000/listen.pls for the goatsex weary.

Cheers,
levine

Linus on "Sommar" (2)

claes (25551) | more than 12 years ago | (#177211)

Last year I contacted the producers of "Sommar", a swedish radio program that airs every summer. The concept is that the host gets one hour with their own script and the music of their own choice, to talk about whatever they want. My suggestion was that they should invite Linus to do this show once. Unfortunately, when they presented this years hosts, he was not among them.

Re:Fresh air is a very good show (3)

hey! (33014) | more than 12 years ago | (#177213)

I agree, she is quite simply the best. Here's a great salon feature about her: http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/1998/06/cov_22fea ture2.html [salon.com]

The one time I heard one of her interviews go down in flames was when she interviewed Nancy Reagan, and asked about the astrologers in the White House, and loads of political questions. Reagan was unprepared, and, for once, Gross was unprepared for her being unprepared.

pronunciation of name (1)

sometwo (53041) | more than 12 years ago | (#177223)

I just listened to it and I always thought his name was lin-us and not Line-us a la Charlie Brown. Yet, she repeatedly calls him Line-us and he never corrects her. She does pronounce "Linux" correctly however.

What the heck?

Re:Fresh Aire comes on too early (1)

cetan (61150) | more than 12 years ago | (#177225)

same problem as above and I tried that as well. no go. all streaming stuff seems to be blocked by the corp. firewall at my location as well.

bastards.

Re:Todd Mundt too! (2)

bugg (65930) | more than 12 years ago | (#177228)

Most of the swearing (and for that matter, occurances of things like brand names) is done in comments, not string literals. A recursive grep on the source tree would be better.

Linus is probably not in Philly (2)

wumingzi (67100) | more than 12 years ago | (#177229)

Actually, I was very suprised to find a few months back that Terry Gross interviews very few people face to face. While it sounds like they're across the table from each other, usually her interview subject is in a radio studio somehwere else in the world, while Ms. Gross is (presumably) at WHYY studios.

Here's the interview where she talks about that (and other things):

http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/me/20000901.me.06.ram [npr.org]

Nit: (1)

hilker (69291) | more than 12 years ago | (#177232)

You probably meant to say that the show starts at 7PM EDT. The US is on Daylight Saving time now, not Standard time.

Terry Gross... (1)

Ears (71799) | more than 12 years ago | (#177234)

...is a wonderful interviewer. She really seems to understand enough about the relevant issues to ask intelligent questions, and she has a knack for making her guests comfortable enough to reveal themselves. The show's format helps, too; plenty of time for each interview (20 or 30 minutes), and no morons calling in.

Should be a really worthwhile listen; probably one of the best interviews Linus will do on his book tour.

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Its on RIGHT NOW (1:00pm Pac) (1)

pnb2001 (73355) | more than 12 years ago | (#177236)

It's 1:07 here in Washington State, and the interview is on right now...

Re:Air time varies (2)

rkent (73434) | more than 12 years ago | (#177237)

. It wasn't bad, but it was pretty light.

It's a bit disingenuous to call that program "light." Notice from the webpage that "Fresh Air" is more generally oriented towards new trends in arts and literature. This is about as un-technical an audience as NPR ever targets. One might expect them to mention the political implications of open source and nothing else.

While there was a lot of this, the host also gave Linus the chance to explain what an operating system was, and he even went on to differentiate between the Linux kernel and a more complete operating system. If one had been taking notes, one could have basically had an introductory class in OS design. So why don't we acknowledge the audience to whom this program is trying to speak, and applaud "Fresh Air" for even trying to tackle some of the technical jargon.

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Real Audio must die (1)

Eric Seppanen (79060) | more than 12 years ago | (#177239)

I'm sick and tired of needing a proprietary player to listen to people talk about free software.

When are we going to see the first big adopter of Ogg Vorbis [vorbis.com] ?

And yes, I know RMS' talks are in .ogg format. I'm hoping to see .ogg adoption by websites that non-geeks use, so that Vorbis can get on its way to mainstream acceptance...
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Todd Mundt too! (5)

passion (84900) | more than 12 years ago | (#177243)

He seems to be quite the celeb at the moment, as he just talked on Todd Mundt's show almost 2 weeks ago [toddshow.org] , I grabbed my own copy of the recording [fluidthoughts.com]

I also found it interesting how the second half of the show talked about cussing in the workplace, so I did a quick grep on the 2.4.3 source code, and found these results:

  • 112 instances of 'shit'
  • 4 mentions of 'piss'
  • 44 derivatives of 'fuck'
  • 0 instances of 'cunt'
  • 1 mention of 'tits'
  • 2 references to 'dick'
  • 7 occurences of 'ass'

Agreed (1)

AirLace (86148) | more than 12 years ago | (#177244)

One other weird thing, Linus's prononciation is generally quite good, but he says "project" like prowwject which gets really annoying.
I will be making and ogg of the interview and posting a followup to this message for those who don't want to install proprietary realplayer.

Re:This announcement should have been YESTERDAY! (1)

jschauma (90259) | more than 12 years ago | (#177246)

FWIW, I submitted the news last night around 10pm or so...

Re:pronunciation of name (1)

jschauma (90259) | more than 12 years ago | (#177247)

He probably just gave up - happens to me, too. People tend to call me "Dschen", and if they don't get it after I correct them once or twice, I don't bother. I doubt Linus gives a crap.

Re:Interview quality (2)

ClarkEvans (102211) | more than 12 years ago | (#177250)

She didn't even think that Linux was copyrighted

As an interviewer it is often helpful to put forth popular assertions so that the interviewee can correct them. This is a technique, and I'm sure it was planned.

Contrast with Raymond and Stallman in April 1998 (2)

ClarkEvans (102211) | more than 12 years ago | (#177251)

On Talk of the Nation, Science Friday, April 17, 1988 there was an interview [npr.org] with Richard Stallman (RMS) and Eric Raymond (ESR). You might find the contrast between Linus and RMS interesting.

Oh yes, this interview doesn't start till 1/2 way through the audio file, it starts about 27:30...

Re:Fresh air is a very good show (3)

ClarkEvans (102211) | more than 12 years ago | (#177252)

She did a very good job this time as well. Linus came off like a very thoughtful, grounded person. His discussion of the GPL was a bit muttled, in particular I thought he wasn't clear enough as to what the exact terms of the GPL are... namely that the source code must be made freely available. I also found it interesting that Linus (once again) failed to mention RMS, no suprise here. Linus's characterization of the primary difference between Windows and Linux was very good... he clearly made the point that it is all about freedom of choice and that those using Microsoft's software don't have this choice. Further, his discussion about IBM was very clear. Nice interview.

already aired (1)

tim_olsen (103379) | more than 12 years ago | (#177253)

it already aired at 1pm EDT and will reair at 11pm EDT on 90.9 for those in the boston area. (also check the real audio link someone else posted)

Linus should feel right at home. (1)

The_Messenger (110966) | more than 12 years ago | (#177255)

Hopefully Gross won't give him a hard time about being a commie pinko. Oh, wait, this is NPR...

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Re:Too bad its in Real format... WTF? (2)

nlaporte (116203) | more than 12 years ago | (#177256)

Go to Real's website [real.com] and click on Realplayer at the top. Then scroll down somkewhat and click on the link that says "Realplayer 8 Basic -- is our free player". That's where to get the free player (they also seem to have a *NIX version). Good luck!

Fresh Air Content... (1)

jgdobak (119142) | more than 12 years ago | (#177257)

As a regular listener of Fresh Air, I'm happy to say that this will be their first heterosexual male guest in 351 episodes.
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Were I in touch with the toilet that is humanity, I'd have flushed it long ago.

Don't look now... (4)

crashnbur (127738) | more than 12 years ago | (#177260)

...because the Fresh Air and NPR web sites seem to be taking the slashdot effect negatively. Or maybe the pages just render very slowly.

The real audio stream [npr.org] of today's show with Torvalds buffered and played fine. Interesting so far... though I'm only a couple of minutes into it.

Re:Too bad its in Real format... WTF? (1)

Mr.Phil (128836) | more than 12 years ago | (#177261)

I downloaded the "free" comunity supported version of 8 about a month ago.

What other version is it going to be in?

Charlie Rose (1)

quixotal (132989) | more than 12 years ago | (#177265)

Linus was also on Charlie Rose a few weeks back. I am sure the regular Charlie Rose viewer was going "Huh?". Charlie didn't seem to have a clue about what Linux is or why it exists.

Re:Air time varies (3)

ennuiner (144711) | more than 12 years ago | (#177269)

It is 'open source news' in a way, after all)
I wouldn't go that far - NPR has been pretty aggressive in lobbying against microbroadcasting, and other independent media. [salon.com] Fearing that microbroadcast operators might threaten its monopoly on community-oriented broadcasting, it lobbied the FCC and Congress to keep low-power operations illegal, narrowing the pool of voices you hear on air.
In a recent article in Seattle's The Stranger [thestranger.com] , NPR host Ira Glass criticized NPR for being risk-averse and uninnovative, noting there are few young or minority voices in NPR programs. [thestranger.com]
I used to be a big NPR supporter, until they began to strong arm the government to exclude other community broadcasters.

A book tour (1)

gimple (152864) | more than 12 years ago | (#177270)

It's a book promo! [npr.org]

Before I wised up and got a real career, I got an MFA in creative writing. One time we had a seminar put on by some editor for a pretty big "literary" publishing house. She said the surest way for a book's sales to jump was to have the author interviewed on NPR--Freshair specifically.

More Info (2)

TotallyUseless (157895) | more than 12 years ago | (#177274)

If you need to find your area's NPR station that carries Fresh Air, you can go to this link [npr.org] . And if you have already missed it (the show has already aired today in most areas) then you can visit the archive [npr.org] to listen to a copy. Enjoy!

Re:Todd Mundt too! (1)

Captain Rotundo (165816) | more than 12 years ago | (#177277)

Now this is exactly why linux doesn't have the same penetration as Microsoft Windows. Where are the kernel hackers when we need them? Come on people we clearly need to up the cunt to tits ratio here.

Re:Fresh air is a very good show (2)

SquadBoy (167263) | more than 12 years ago | (#177279)

I'm listening to it now and as usual Terry has done her homework. She gives Linus plenty of time to explain copyright, the GPL, and the issue of selling GPLed software and he does a good job and it seems like she gets it in the end. This is *very* worth listening to.

Well that sucks (1)

electricmonk (169355) | more than 12 years ago | (#177280)

They don't even have this program on my local station. I guess I'll just have to hope that their website doesn't get slashdotted, so I can listen to a stream.

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Re:Interview quality (1)

tww-china (171273) | more than 12 years ago | (#177281)

I don't think she did a good job. It was obvious she did not understand the material. She did *not* know who VA Linux was. How hard would that be to figure out? And, she didn't even know what IBM and HP were doing with Linux. She didn't even think Linux was copyrighted.

I thought it was quite boring.

Re:which dept? (1)

ahem (174666) | more than 12 years ago | (#177287)

I meant to say:

It's from the <fnord> department.

Fumbling fat fingers fail finding preview vs submit...

Re:Too bad its in Real format... WTF? (1)

dstanfor (175527) | more than 12 years ago | (#177288)

It's still there somewhere. They like to move it around and hide it since they want you to actually pay for it. Kinda ridiculous considering that they haven't progressed with any good results past streaming audio.

My audio always sounds like it was recorded in a very echo-y room, no matter the source on my RA player recently. It's very annoying. Anyone know of any players that can deal with .ra streams that aren't real audio?

Re:Too bad its in Real format... WTF? (2)

SnapperHead (178050) | more than 12 years ago | (#177289)

Sure, its still there. They just make it difficault for you to find it. *hint* [real.com]
until (succeed) try { again(); }

'open source news'?? (3)

wytcld (179112) | more than 12 years ago | (#177290)

Considering that former FCC chairman Kennard says that NPR's opposition before Congress was what killed his initiative to legalize micro-broadcasting, should we be urging contributions to NPR stations? True, NPR is a bit to the left, and sometimes entertaining; true, many of the micro-broadcasters would have been evangelical churches on the far right. Still the principle seems all wrong: NPR has helped prevent the emergence of real, local, community-based radio. What with Pacifica Radio [thenation.com] in flames, that means no voices more radical than NPR's pleasant liberals will be heard in most of the country.

Re:Real Audio file already available (1)

ChrisCampbell47 (181542) | more than 12 years ago | (#177293)

They (Fresh Air) often don't get around to posting today's show details until late in the afternoon, often after the show has already aired in some markets.

Anyway, the URL you supplied will break by tomorrow.

This URL should work better [npr.org] .

Re:Too bad its in Real format... WTF? (1)

killmenow (184444) | more than 12 years ago | (#177294)

What other version is it going to be in?

http://www.shoutcast.com/support/docs/

check it out...think about it.

Re:Where's the .ogg or .mp3 version?? (1)

tester13 (186772) | more than 12 years ago | (#177295)

I refuse to use RealPlayer, as probably others do too.

oh common! I think its fairly outragous for us to expect NPR to be using something like .ogg. Most people use things like .rm for streaming media. What if the whole interview was only in .ogg? Whould you consider that good advocacy?

Re:Linx-ox? (1)

core10k (196263) | more than 12 years ago | (#177298)

Because Line- Ox is the natural way to pronounce the word "Linux." Ask someone who's never heard the word before to pronounce it and see what comes out. It won't be lyn-uhx, that's for sure.

Re:Linus Torvalds (1)

core10k (196263) | more than 12 years ago | (#177299)

COMMUNISM DOES NOT WORK... neither does LINUX

LOL! That's hilarious for reasons I can't elucidate.

Re:Linx-ox? (1)

core10k (196263) | more than 12 years ago | (#177300)

That's not really fair... preparing for a story, what would you do? Read up on it on paper, or 'watch up' on it by watching VCR tapes? Which is quicker?

what I'd ask him... (1)

jchristopher (198929) | more than 12 years ago | (#177301)

In all seriousness, if I ever had the opportunity to meet Linus in person or via a call in show, I would ask what I personally can do to improve the ease of use of Linux, besides coding. (I'm not a programmer).

I would love to contribute, but right now, I can't write documentation or stuff like that, because Linux is still a little over my head. So I'd like his thoughts on that.

Re:what I'd ask him... (1)

jchristopher (198929) | more than 12 years ago | (#177302)

yeah, I guess without a lower class, there can be no upper class. My question was serious though... any ideas?

Just for Fun (1)

anichan (205614) | more than 12 years ago | (#177303)

A memoir by Linus and David Diamond was just published this past month. A little more info on it is available on ZDNet [zdnet.co.uk] and Harper Collins [harpercollins.com] .

The ISBN is 0066620724.

Re:Nit: (1)

Grishnakh (216268) | more than 12 years ago | (#177308)

It's still valid here in Arizona. If someone refers to a time in another time zone, we still need to know whether it's ST or DT so we can properly calculate what time that will be here.
Luckily, AFAIK, there are no places in the Eastern time zone that do not follow DST, so it's pretty easy to convert those times. But with Central and Mountain times, it's pretty important to know whether someone else is talking about Daylight Time or not.

Re:Todd Mundt too! (1)

BlowCat (216402) | more than 12 years ago | (#177309)

$ strings vmlinux | grep -i shit Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. Matsushita Electronics Co Ltd Matsushita-Kotobuki Electronics Industries, Ltd. Matsushita Electric Works Ltd Matsushita Graphic Communication Systems, Inc. YAMASHITA Systems Corp

Air time varies (5)

tomdarch (225937) | more than 12 years ago | (#177311)

I just heard it on WBEZ (public radio in Chicago). It started at 2:00pm Central time. It wasn't bad, but it was pretty light. Terry (sp?) Gross is one of the best interviewers I know of, but the technical nature of LINUX really got in the way of an in-depth discussion. He (Linus) did have some interesting personal comments on what it was like to ride the rise and fall of an IPO. Check the website of your local public radio station (you are a contributor aren't you? It is 'open source news' in a way, after all)

Re:Interview quality (2)

Water Paradox (231902) | more than 12 years ago | (#177313)

No, it wasn't planned. It was Torvald's graceful answering which kept the flow running on this one; she made several mistakes. She did not catch his cryptic reference to FUD--completely ignored it because she was preparing to read her next question, which lots of journalists do. The best journalists know their material so well that they ask questions in such a manner that does not reveal they are ignorant of their material. Don't be so sure that it was planned. As an interviewer, I would never use this technique without clarifying that I _did_ know what I was talking about, like: "Some people think that x is true, and some people think that y is. What is your understanding of x and y?"

In a similar manner, she thought that GPL kept people from making money off of software, but Torvald's answer made the distinction clear: the software can be sold, but its source must be made available.

Freshest voice in radio (1)

whjwhj (243426) | more than 12 years ago | (#177317)

Is it just me or does Terry Gross have THE sexiest voice on radio? I could listen to her for hours. ... and this is ... FRESH AIR!

Re:Freshest voice in radio (1)

whjwhj (243426) | more than 12 years ago | (#177318)

Makes no difference on the air! Her voice is no less sexy to my ears!

Re:Too bad its in Real format... WTF? (1)

honkycat (249849) | more than 12 years ago | (#177321)

look around on their obnoxious sales page, there is a one-line text link to the free real 8. It took me 5 minutes to find it, but it's there, and includes links to unix versions as well. whee.

The best one of 'fuck'... (1)

rudib (300816) | more than 12 years ago | (#177324)

include/asm-mips/mmu_context.h:/* Fuck. The f-word is here so you can grep for it :-) */

Just For Fun (1)

bigbadwlf (304883) | more than 12 years ago | (#177325)

They make mention of Linus' book (which is great, for those who haven't picked it up yet)

This is going to fun to watch the Media Spin! (1)

Neck_of_the_Woods (305788) | more than 12 years ago | (#177326)

I can see it now...BURN the GAMES! Computer gaves are EVIL!!! -- Please, this was a little beat down for being a pissant. So what, but of course the media will spin it out like it was the purest form of proof that computer games are evil. Considering that many people play it those are good ratios. I have never seen anyone throw a punch at a baseball game, or Soccer, or football, or hockey....No one ever brings them up anymore I wonder why?


You could view this like being a network Admin, your considered over payed, and underworked because the only time they ever see you or hear you is when shit is screwed up. Just like computer games, no one see thousands of kids playing it and not taking drugs. Or playing them and learning problem solving skills, computer skills, programing skills, everything but how to interact with other people in real life. Thing is the people in controll of the country right now don't understand computers. Give it some time, and the new computer generation will crop up and understand. Not run around like idoits pointing at anything that will take blame off themselves.

Ok, end rant here....spelling and grammer ignored for speed.


Neck_of_the_Woods

Really changes your view of Bill Gates. (2)

AX.25 (310140) | more than 12 years ago | (#177329)

All those who worship at the alter of Bill Gates ought to listen to this interview. Linus is a breath of fresh-air in the software world. Bill Gates has nothing on Linus. Linus is a much better example of how a human being should act then Gates. Somehow, even with all his charity, I still think of Bill Gates as a rich spoiled brat. I don't think Linus will ever be that way.

Re:Fresh Aire comes on too early (1)

Chakat (320875) | more than 12 years ago | (#177333)

Have you tried setting up realplayer to use HTTP transport instead of TCP/UDP, or is it a truly evil firewall that looks through HTTP stuff as well?

Re:Fresh Aire comes on too early (1)

Chakat (320875) | more than 12 years ago | (#177334)

Allright, lemme step you through how to fix it (I'm a BFAFH, so I know what's done here). Essentially, what you've got to do is set it to use HTTP to transport the stream. Here's how: (note, this is the Win version, so ymmv for exact steps)

From the main screen, go to View -> Preferences

Choose the Transport Tab, select Use Specified Transports

In both the RTSP Settings And PNA Settings, set it up to Use HTTP only.

It should work after that. Though I've still got to put in the standard disclaimer: Any foul acts occurring as a result of following these instructions, including, and not limited to Loss of data, loss of limb, turning into a talking stoat, bringing about the apocalypse, are not my fault, and you do manage to bring about any ill affects, it's not my fault.

Agreed... (1)

kypper (446750) | more than 12 years ago | (#177339)

I wonder why a freeware, non-bloated version of Realplayer hasn't been made.

Please, people, don't tell me that it is a proprietary format; it hasn't stopped people before.

The Real freeware player installed so much crap that I refuse to ever install it again, no matter how much I want to hear anything.

Fresh Aire comes on too early (2)

CovertSquirrels (456836) | more than 12 years ago | (#177347)

The firewall at work doesn't allow streaming media, and I'll still be here when Fresh Aire comes on. Unless [cough] I develop [yack] a bad case of [gag] 24 hour Ebola. Hey, boss [hurl], can I go home?
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